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Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (10/20/2015 4:53:31 PM)
Go Sonia, baby I love that plane![8D] [image]local://upfiles/44178/1046E2CE4F1844D4B171D16B686FBD4B.jpg[/image] This is the remnant of the squadron I half destroyed in the air the other day...

Lowpe -> P38E! (10/20/2015 4:56:31 PM)
Not cricket.[:D] Jocke must have had his wheaties yesterday. 4 Squadrons of P40E sweep Allingford, Zeroes resting there; while these bad boys sweep another empty base nearbye. [image]local://upfiles/44178/F3901338CD294BD499B89418887A740B.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: P38E! (10/20/2015 5:00:41 PM)
Sonia does it all, with elan! The best thing is the small supply expenditure and size 2 runways. [image]local://upfiles/44178/BEA115D4B320481FAF631B4222C9125F.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: P38E! (10/20/2015 5:12:26 PM)
Calcutta losing units, but lots of boots on the ground still. [image]local://upfiles/44178/102B10CFD2AF4151B3F596BB0C65B5E8.jpg[/image]

Alfred -> RE: B17s!!! (10/21/2015 2:01:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe India. The locals really like us. Seriously, we are there for liberation! Er, maybe we are there for the industry, victory points, and oil.[;)] Look at Ledo...I think it is a air engineer if memory serves and the Allies didn't switch it up. What do you think the odds of a paratroop unit taking it by coupe de main? I can bomb it back into the stone ages for a day or two and then drop? Sounds reasonable? Worth the effort? Doomed to failure? [image]local://upfiles/44178/E29247330D6C4C769B6688C871F96B24.jpg[/image] Ledo has about 80 unadjusted AV present. It is not a candidate for a coup de main delivered by para assault alone. Alfred

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (10/21/2015 2:06:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred Ledo has about 80 unadjusted AV present. It is not a candidate for a coup de main delivered by para assault alone. Alfred Thanks Alfred. Once I bombed the troops there and saw it was a Brigade, I nixed my plans. Always looking.[:)]

Alfred -> RE: B17s!!! (10/21/2015 2:07:16 PM)
Lowpe, Re the fires you are generating in Vancouver and Seattle. You should read my post in this thread about how they get extinguished. http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3934686&mpage=1&key=fires&#3935002 Alfred

Alfred -> RE: B17s!!! (10/21/2015 2:10:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred Ledo has about 80 unadjusted AV present. It is not a candidate for a coup de main delivered by para assault alone. Alfred Thanks Alfred. Once I bombed the troops there and saw it was a Brigade, I nixed my plans. Always looking.[:)] Seems like you are unaware of my rule of thumb in determining unadjusted AV.[:)] Divide the number of raw troops listed by 30 and a fairly accurate estimate is provided. If there is a particularly large contingent of AFV also present a percentage of them may also be added to the estimate. Saves having to bomb the location just to get an estimate. Alfred

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (10/21/2015 2:39:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred Ledo has about 80 unadjusted AV present. It is not a candidate for a coup de main delivered by para assault alone. Alfred Thanks Alfred. Once I bombed the troops there and saw it was a Brigade, I nixed my plans. Always looking.[:)] Seems like you are unaware of my rule of thumb in determining unadjusted AV.[:)] Divide the number of raw troops listed by 30 and a fairly accurate estimate is provided. If there is a particularly large contingent of AFV also present a percentage of them may also be added to the estimate. Saves having to bomb the location just to get an estimate. Alfred I was going to ask you that![&o] Very impressive.

ny59giants -> RE: B17s!!! (10/21/2015 3:59:41 PM)
P-38s - Be thankful you are playing with altitude restrictions. If not, you would be crying in your beer. [:D]

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (10/21/2015 4:43:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants P-38s - Be thankful you are playing with altitude restrictions. If not, you would be crying in your beer. [:D] 390 mph of screaming Japanese pain! [sm=00000007.gif]

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (10/21/2015 8:20:53 PM)
I got a little worried last turn, recon spots a mess of destroyers at Seattle, so I decide to bomb them and see what they are ...bunch of AM, YO, ACMs, are now on the bottom. The KB is a little offshore and takes a milk run on Astoria's shipyard before leaving the area for parts unknown. I have two surface fleets out and about, one in striking range and not spotted. The other is off the coast of eastern Oz...there could be enemy carriers down by Sydney. Moving in India, and China and consolidating the SRA, Solomons, etc. Tojo II b just advanced; A6M5 is at 100%, A6M3a is at 90%, and the second of 7 Oscar IIa factories has repaired to 30. Looking good on the fight front. The Oscar IIa will start production very early next month...and then all 7 factories will go to the IIb. A second Nick factory flies up to Dacca in India, and third,only a chutai, is at Magwe. Only one more full sentai to fill out. Losing more planes than I would like...slow adjusting to the reduced aviation support and the more effective AA hurts. Not complaining though, as I will be relying upon AA too.

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (10/21/2015 11:12:06 PM)
A little note on ship production: I have turned off all xak builds and all submarine builds to build some points in the pools. I am accelerating the CVs; the BBs are not advancing.

ny59giants -> RE: B17s!!! (10/22/2015 12:17:59 PM)
Have you built all those small xAKs that can convert to small TKs in June??

tiemanjw -> RE: B17s!!! (10/22/2015 7:49:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe I got a little worried last turn, recon spots a mess of destroyers at Seattle, so I decide to bomb them and see what they are ...bunch of AM, YO, ACMs, are now on the bottom. The KB is a little offshore and takes a milk run on Astoria's shipyard before leaving the area for parts unknown. I have two surface fleets out and about, one in striking range and not spotted. The other is off the coast of eastern Oz...there could be enemy carriers down by Sydney. Moving in India, and China and consolidating the SRA, Solomons, etc. Tojo II b just advanced; A6M5 is at 100%, A6M3a is at 90%, and the second of 7 Oscar IIa factories has repaired to 30. Looking good on the fight front. The Oscar IIa will start production very early next month...and then all 7 factories will go to the IIb. A second Nick factory flies up to Dacca in India, and third,only a chutai, is at Magwe. Only one more full sentai to fill out. Losing more planes than I would like...slow adjusting to the reduced aviation support and the more effective AA hurts. Not complaining though, as I will be relying upon AA too. I'm very curious as to how effective the KB is at hitting industry in Cali. In my experience, the CV A/C are good at hitting big targets, A/C factories, and possibly repair yards. Ignore the LI and don't worry too much about manpower fire storms. That refinery in LA looks extremely juicy. As for Vancouver, I'm not sure what it looks like on the wrong side of things, but I've never seen industry damaged below "2" when supplying the destruction. So that Cat factory at 2(2) is all the damage I would expect to see. Try direct bombing some A/C factories in Seattle to pick up a few more points. Fires are good for burning LI and HI, but inefficient at other things.

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (10/23/2015 10:28:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Have you built all those small xAKs that can convert to small TKs in June?? What class are they are? Standard E?

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (10/27/2015 2:44:32 PM)
Got real busy, and turns slowed down some. Lost an AMC, AK and PB over at Alliford Bay by being sloppy, but continue to bomb North America. The KB has been dark lately, along with the miniKB. I wonder what they are up to? Air Bridge to Coal Harbor has been completed; we have several Sallys and recon planes enroute, along with another Oscar squadron. Still pursuing grinding attacks in China along the Ankang road. Tanks headed for the western drive up China plus some heavy artillery there. Still progressing in Southern India...first Nick squadron there now too. Should start strategic bombing in Australia....I shelled a port there and nailed a few subs a couple of days ago...

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (10/28/2015 7:25:51 PM)
Mid May 1942 Some progress being made in China along the Ankang road. I think his troops are pretty shattered all the way to Ankang. [image]local://upfiles/44178/FDF5987EA79F4B20BE553183F06DADED.jpg[/image]

HansBolter -> RE: B17s!!! (10/28/2015 9:23:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: Alfred Ledo has about 80 unadjusted AV present. It is not a candidate for a coup de main delivered by para assault alone. Alfred Thanks Alfred. Once I bombed the troops there and saw it was a Brigade, I nixed my plans. Always looking.[:)] Wanted to point out that a lack of front line infantry units isn't necessarily a sign of no or low assault value making a target ripe for picking. I currently have nothing but base forces and flak units in Ledo and it has 100 AV accumulated from base force combat troops alone.

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (10/31/2015 6:47:11 PM)
It is amazing to see how much more effective the anti-aircraft batteries are in this game....I like it, even though right now I am suffering from it. Not too much to report: Moving on Ledo...the Allies have retreated their Burma forces there and I will be attacking them. I have hit the troops and the runway there a little and will get some LRCAP up there as soon as I can. On the Ankang road, the Chinese were routed back across a river, suffering great loss and now are overstacked. Easy pickings for the massed IJAAF, and I am waiting for the Allied fighters to make an appearance. Losses to the Chinese are well over a 1,000 a day and in two days 3 divisions will storm across. Hope to be in Ankang with three fresh divisions inside of two weeks. More artillery has unloaded at Luzon, and along with two divisions and some air power are bombarding the defenders there daily. More fun and games in North America...the Kodiak invasion might start today, or tomorrow. Bombing there. The KB is is refueling for a top secret operation. I am slowly expanding search, my perimeter, and air dominance. Really could use a Sentai of Tojo right now, but will have to wait for two more weeks. Air research going very well.

PaxMondo -> RE: B17s!!! (10/31/2015 8:46:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Really could use a Sentai of Tojo right now ... Where do you need them?

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (11/1/2015 12:10:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Really could use a Sentai of Tojo right now ... Where do you need them? India...I will need them shortly I think. But I still have time...Come 43 I think Japan will be in good position with regard to fighters. Heavy focus on Frank A...and with a little luck it will be here in May 43. I do have a good Nick squadron there...but Jocke is pretty much hiding with all his air forces & challenging and then back into the rear area bases. Very smart play on his part. I took a day off of bombing Seattle to hit the airfield there with one sentai...destroyed 1 plane, damaged 4 P38Es (sr4) so hopefully he will move them back a little and when he needs to use them will fly them in for the day. 2 Days and I force the river crossing on the Ankang road, then on to Ankang I hope pretty quickly. Kodiak invasion will happen tomorrow..I have bombed for the last several days with Netties and Sallies. Once it is cleared the bombers will be able to rotate into Coal Harbor...the Sallies at least. 2 Battleships providing cover. Japanese bombers are pretty much fully engaged in India, China, Luzon, and North America. Sonia are doing good work, punching above their weight, so to speak in Luzon and China.

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (11/1/2015 4:08:06 PM)
Jocke won't be happy here on the Ankang road. He managed to scrape together 3 Chinese corp with over 200 AV each...but they were no match for the IJA troopers and tanks and artillery forcing the river crossing. I don't think there is much left in the way of Chinese reserves on the Ankgang road. To the west Nanning should fall on the morrow. [image]local://upfiles/44178/B1BBF170A3014BF290997AFB8EEE7532.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (11/1/2015 4:12:33 PM)
Over at Alliford Bay, I put some Oscars down low (10K) and Zeroes at 20K...they tangled with 100 P40Es sweeping and two or three waves of B17. 19 P40E and 1 B17 destroyed for 28 Japanese fighters. Unfortunately, the Zeroes were too high to really lay into the B17s and well, Oscars just aren't much of an anti-bomber plane. No planes destroyed on the ground. Interestingly, Jocke got a 68 plane coordinated sweep.

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (11/1/2015 4:43:38 PM)
Southern India.... 12 units bottled up at Ledo. Bombing daily, no supply left there. Patna falls. Will take Rajshashi today. Held by the 1st Assam Rifles. [image]local://upfiles/44178/53479C5C276844389070153FCF27DA88.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (11/2/2015 9:39:11 PM)
Nanning fell, and perhaps there will be a chance to establish a magic highway now. I have not shipped out of Singers, but I am sure that Olorin did. I pretty much have been shipping to Hong Kong heavily and from Fusan into Honshu. I am happy if that works... Nanning marked the first combat fighting of the Guards Tank Division, what a wonderful unit! [:)]They will now move north and threaten the central Chinese plains from the south, while the Ankang drive will threaten it from the east. Two battleships and some cruisers bombard Diamond Harbor, causing 600 casualties knocking out 19 guns. Will do it again today. Japanes land forces are moving to surround Calcutta, but also take the industry to the north of Calcutta. Forces are moving towards Ledo and the oil there. Kodiak is invaded, but the troops are simply resting there for now. Soon the bombardments will start. Timing will be tricky, but I hope to catch Allied planes on the ground in Canada near Alliford Bay. Nells bombed Cairns knocking out 15+ resources in Oz. Preparing to hit more there. The KB is back to sea and steaming towards danger. Or is that opportunity?

PaxMondo -> RE: B17s!!! (11/3/2015 1:40:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Nanning fell, and perhaps there will be a chance to establish a magic highway now. I have not shipped out of Singers, but I am sure that Olorin did. I pretty much have been shipping to Hong Kong heavily and from Fusan into Honshu. I am happy if that works.. Nice ... halfway is better than none.

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (11/3/2015 3:22:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo Nice ... halfway is better than none. You don't really need to do more imo, & it is a lot easier to do.

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (11/3/2015 3:29:40 PM)
We will see how this works in India.... Jocke has defended Calcutta. I am seeking to bypass Calcutta. Diamond Harbor is getting reduced by daily battleship visits. With the range set to main gun distance, I am able to shell Diamond Harbor and resupply at Chitt with just one AKE. Plus the damage is substantial.[8D] The Allied guns have never hit. I do have a rail line to Patna, and will be threatening a move to the North (Benares) with light forces. In a shocking development, when the 1st Assam Rifles surrendered, they also turned over a 5K supply stockpile. Never in my wildest dreams did I think there would be anything there![:)] [image]local://upfiles/44178/E55ECDB40AA049DB8B99EAE4E6AAF492.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: B17s!!! (11/3/2015 7:02:10 PM)
Jocke has three times the amount of troops in Ankang than the stacking limit. They have been heavily bombed for the last several days and must be in very poor shape.[:)] I am guessing some may escape over the road before I attack, and I am not sure what the forts are at Ankang, minimum 3 I am thinking.[&:] But we have a strong artillery and infantry force backed up with 3 Tank Regiments exploiting up the Ankang road with the goal of splitting China in half before moving on the central plains of China. [image]local://upfiles/44178/91BDFB1FAA7D4F9584A8B107B853D7E6.jpg[/image]

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