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Peltonx -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/30/2015 6:05:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: loki100 well done in Italy - looks like you have more prisoners to collect from the coast? And a well managed offensive in Normandy If he would have dropped the paras on the other side of the boot (1 rail line) he would have pocketed units with 10k-15k per division instead of the ones that were alrdy down to 1k to 3k because of bombing. I was surpised and thankfull he dropped them near Rome. He clearly already had a break through at Rome and all units were at 1 cv. Really not sure what his thinking was, but I take the gift and start prepping for the Med invasion. I do expect him to stay near the coast using the same exploit - operation Cobra from May 44 to May 45 completely historical No down side the exploit so I do same. As more and more people do it we can exploit it to be the flavor of the day as spam invasions were. It get nerfed as all exploits do or it be a game killer as game will be boring copy cat games.

Peltonx -> Monties mistakes saves 100,000 German trrops in Italy (12/30/2015 6:07:53 PM)
Turn 55 VP’s this turn: -20 Total: -41 Manpower: 71,000 Arm Pts: 1,777,000 WA manage to take 3 hexes, but at a heavy cost. All of the WA air power continues to be used tactically. As Hitler promised the skies over Germany are clear. [image]local://upfiles/20387/5671F06E0A9745169F869B3EF43D1511.jpg[/image]

Peltonx -> RE: Monties mistakes saves 100,000 German trrops in Italy (12/30/2015 6:09:28 PM)
German forces with draw to northern Italy and as with France all of the Allies airpower is used tactically. Thankfully allies did not drop paras on eastern shore of Italy. VP count pilling up. [image]local://upfiles/20387/B2C949C0607A4E86AEADDA100267DFB3.jpg[/image]

Peltonx -> RE: Monties mistakes saves 100,000 German trrops in Italy (12/30/2015 6:33:11 PM)
I see your boys getting on boats

HMSWarspite -> RE: Germans Retreating.... (12/30/2015 7:59:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pelton Lower ToE does require less fuel = more MP's Its a WitE work around and works with this logistics system also-which means it will work with WitE 2.0 Why is this a 'work around'? You mention it (and reference WitE2) as if this is an exploit or defect. Perfectly sensible and logical effect and option: by keeping mobile units small, the fuel usage drops so the unit moves more on given supply. Of course, in RL the establishment would probably be reduced, and in game it stays the same, but the % ToE drops, but no biggy... A perfectly valid command decision. Of course, the combat effectiveness drops, but you pays your money and takes your pick.

HMSWarspite -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/30/2015 8:01:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pelton ... I do expect him to stay near the coast using the same exploit - operation Cobra from May 44 to May 45 completely historical No down side the exploit so I do same. As more and more people do it we can exploit it to be the flavor of the day as spam invasions were. It get nerfed as all exploits do or it be a game killer as game will be boring copy cat games. Does the coastal bonus/debit apply when not landing then? I hadn't considered that. Needs a fix if so.

Peltonx -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/30/2015 8:48:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HMSWarspite quote: ORIGINAL: Pelton ... I do expect him to stay near the coast using the same exploit - operation Cobra from May 44 to May 45 completely historical No down side the exploit so I do same. As more and more people do it we can exploit it to be the flavor of the day as spam invasions were. It get nerfed as all exploits do or it be a game killer as game will be boring copy cat games. Does the coastal bonus/debit apply when not landing then? I hadn't considered that. Needs a fix if so. Some people can see the forest through the trees, but not any local people. +1 for u bro I love people like KWG. I play allot of games so I get to see it all. I play a ton of games and people know me so they try and use every exploit in the book to win, some do. But generally whatever exploit they use gets nerfed, begrudgingly some times by the powers that be THINK WITE 2.0 using the same exploit hehehehehehehehehe/lol- drive to Leningrad. Red [sm=00000947.gif]

HMSWarspite -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/30/2015 9:22:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pelton quote: ORIGINAL: HMSWarspite quote: ORIGINAL: Pelton ... I do expect him to stay near the coast using the same exploit - operation Cobra from May 44 to May 45 completely historical No down side the exploit so I do same. As more and more people do it we can exploit it to be the flavor of the day as spam invasions were. It get nerfed as all exploits do or it be a game killer as game will be boring copy cat games. Does the coastal bonus/debit apply when not landing then? I hadn't considered that. Needs a fix if so. Some people can see the forest through the trees, but not any local people. +1 for u bro I love people like KWG. I play allot of games so I get to see it all. I play a ton of games and people know me so they try and use every exploit in the book to win, some do. But generally whatever exploit they use gets nerfed, begrudgingly some times by the powers that be THINK WITE 2.0 using the same exploit hehehehehehehehehe/lol- drive to Leningrad. Red [sm=00000947.gif] Now, now. Don't overplay your hand. This is the first time I have read of this, and so we need to ask if 2by3 has had it reported to them. If so, are there plans to review it? Unless they have, and the answer's no, there is no need to get negative...[:-] [/Patronise][;)]

KWG -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/30/2015 11:02:49 PM)
From what I know so far I think air power has been modeled very well. quote: "...completely historical.... ". I dont even know what that means any more. Would that be under Hermann Goering Panzer Division in Normandy? If you think it has been bad so far.....[;)] Iam making new changes in Allied Air Forces, to give you even more VPs "The analysts point out that in June, July, August and September the 8th Air Force did a lot of tactical bombing, whereas in October the 8th Air Force engaged in exclusively on strategic targets." In retrospect von Rundstedt regarded the St-Lo bombing as "the most effective, as well as the most impressive, tactical use of air power in his experience." Model's suicide note stated the effectiveness of Allied Air Forces use of all the types of aircraft in tactical air power. ".... a report from Washington that General George C. Marshall was likely to propose taking the strategic bomber effort off Germany to some extent at least in order to contribute more to the immediate issue on the battlefield." quote: "I play a ton of games and people know me so they try and use every exploit in the book to win, some do. But generally whatever exploit they use gets nerfed, begrudgingly some times by the powers that be" Do people who drive faster than you drive recklessly too fast?

KWG -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/30/2015 11:10:26 PM)
quote: "THINK WITE 2.0 using the same exploit hehehehehehehehehe/lol- drive to Leningrad. " TOTAL AXIS AIRCRAFT AT START OF BARBAROSSA ? 2,700- 3,000 From my little knowledge and what numbers of German Aircraft are in the northern sector I would say you will have to, if you even want to see Leningrad's magnificent golden domes and spires on the horizon . And if a player wants to move all 2,700 Axis aircraft to the northern sector..... thats FINE and should be open to the Player/Commander. Super Walmart Depot will have no problem supplying them and all the AGN ground units... if you can find one open. 2,700? I have over 1,600 TRANSPORT aircraft in England alone. Over 9,000 bombers, fighters, fighter-bombers.

KWG -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/31/2015 2:18:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pelton quote: ORIGINAL: loki100 well done in Italy - looks like you have more prisoners to collect from the coast? And a well managed offensive in Normandy If he would have dropped the paras on the other side of the boot (1 rail line) he would have pocketed units with 10k-15k per division instead of the ones that were alrdy down to 1k to 3k because of bombing. I was surpised and thankfull he dropped them near Rome. He clearly already had a break through at Rome and all units were at 1 cv Really not sure what his thinking was, but I take the gift and start prepping for the Med invasion. I knew thats why you were always reconning my line on the east coast, waiting for the end run. As I can only drop para 5 hexs from my lines I dont see where that would have trapped so many divisions. I guessed it would be easier moving my armor up the nice flat valley rather than the mountains. I had two different invasions prepped for the east coast of Italy, to cut the rail, but other things came into play. quote: I do expect him to stay near the coast using the same exploit - operation Cobra from May 44 to May 45 completely historical No down side the exploit so I do same. Where is the Luftwaffe? completely historical disbanded? quote: As more and more people do it we can exploit it to be the flavor of the day as spam invasions were. It get nerfed as all exploits do or it be a game killer as game will be boring copy cat games Like when the Germans only sit in the trenches on defense and never attack unless its a clear advantage, you know like what the Germans did from May 44 to May 45

KWG -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/31/2015 2:22:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: loki100 well done in Italy - looks like you have more prisoners to collect from the coast? And a well managed offensive in Normandy Thankyou, I will let the ones on the coast go, someone has to live to tell the tale. and its easier to mover armor up the valley than thru the mountains. I will post my Italian plans from the start. When the Med is finished.

Seminole -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/31/2015 2:38:47 AM)
quote: Where is the Luftwaffe? completely historical disbanded? If you're expecting logical consistency you'll be left wanting.

Peltonx -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/31/2015 10:28:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Seminole quote: Where is the Luftwaffe? completely historical disbanded? If you're expecting logical consistency you'll be left wanting. logical consistency is what always happens in the end - some times it just takes longer then other as past history has shown. ignoring the consistency at times is what we are left with.

Peltonx -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/31/2015 10:32:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KWG Do people who drive faster than you drive recklessly too fast? Ask them.

Peltonx -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/31/2015 10:34:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HMSWarspite quote: ORIGINAL: Pelton quote: ORIGINAL: HMSWarspite quote: ORIGINAL: Pelton ... I do expect him to stay near the coast using the same exploit - operation Cobra from May 44 to May 45 completely historical No down side the exploit so I do same. As more and more people do it we can exploit it to be the flavor of the day as spam invasions were. It get nerfed as all exploits do or it be a game killer as game will be boring copy cat games. Does the coastal bonus/debit apply when not landing then? I hadn't considered that. Needs a fix if so. Some people can see the forest through the trees, but not any local people. +1 for u bro I love people like KWG. I play allot of games so I get to see it all. I play a ton of games and people know me so they try and use every exploit in the book to win, some do. But generally whatever exploit they use gets nerfed, begrudgingly some times by the powers that be THINK WITE 2.0 using the same exploit hehehehehehehehehe/lol- drive to Leningrad. Red [sm=00000947.gif] Now, now. Don't overplay your hand. This is the first time I have read of this, and so we need to ask if 2by3 has had it reported to them. If so, are there plans to review it? Unless they have, and the answer's no, there is no need to get negative...[:-] [/Patronise][;)] Lets stick to the facts and not get into personal attacks.

Peltonx -> RE: Patton slaps Herman (12/31/2015 10:36:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KWG quote: "THINK WITE 2.0 using the same exploit hehehehehehehehehe/lol- drive to Leningrad. " TOTAL AXIS AIRCRAFT AT START OF BARBAROSSA ? 2,700- 3,000 From my little knowledge and what numbers of German Aircraft are in the northern sector I would say you will have to, if you even want to see Leningrad's magnificent golden domes and spires on the horizon . And if a player wants to move all 2,700 Axis aircraft to the northern sector..... thats FINE and should be open to the Player/Commander. Super Walmart Depot will have no problem supplying them and all the AGN ground units... if you can find one open. 2,700? I have over 1,600 TRANSPORT aircraft in England alone. Over 9,000 bombers, fighters, fighter-bombers. I am guessing you have no idea what I am talking about?

Peltonx -> trolls (12/31/2015 10:39:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KWG From what I know so far I think air power has been modeled very well. quote: "...completely historical.... ". I dont even know what that means any more. Would that be under Hermann Goering Panzer Division in Normandy? If you think it has been bad so far.....[;)] Iam making new changes in Allied Air Forces, to give you even more VPs "The analysts point out that in June, July, August and September the 8th Air Force did a lot of tactical bombing, whereas in October the 8th Air Force engaged in exclusively on strategic targets." In retrospect von Rundstedt regarded the St-Lo bombing as "the most effective, as well as the most impressive, tactical use of air power in his experience." Model's suicide note stated the effectiveness of Allied Air Forces use of all the types of aircraft in tactical air power. ".... a report from Washington that General George C. Marshall was likely to propose taking the strategic bomber effort off Germany to some extent at least in order to contribute more to the immediate issue on the battlefield." quote: "I play a ton of games and people know me so they try and use every exploit in the book to win, some do. But generally whatever exploit they use gets nerfed, begrudgingly some times by the powers that be" Do people who drive faster than you drive recklessly too fast? artillery caused the most loses to ground forces. Not quotes, quotes did not make the top 10 and I did look closely as I drove. Bombs from planes was not even a close 3rd.

Peltonx -> RE: trolls (12/31/2015 12:45:45 PM)
I respectfully ask that poeple not post again on my AAR's if your going to just troll. Its boring replying to troll post after troll post. KWG your more then welcome to keep posting. But just stick to game data or start your own bias thread.

RedLancer -> RE: trolls (12/31/2015 3:41:17 PM)
I agree. Please respect Pelton's request. This is an excellent AAR as both players are playing at the limit of the game which is very informative. Just because this style may not suit all it does not provide carte blanche to criticise other forum members. Thanks.

KWG -> RE: trolls (12/31/2015 4:56:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Red Lancer I agree. Please respect Pelton's request. This is an excellent AAR as both players are playing at the limit of the game which is very informative. Just because this style may not suit all it does not provide carte blanche to criticise other forum members. Thanks. quote: I do expect him to stay near the coast using the same exploit - operation Cobra from May 44 to May 45 completely historical I play a ton of games and people know me so they try and use every exploit in the book to win, some do. But generally whatever exploit they use gets nerfed, begrudgingly some times by the powers that be My comments were only in defense.

Seminole -> RE: trolls (12/31/2015 6:05:59 PM)
quote: I can only drop para 5 hexs from my lines Was there a change in one of the patches from the original 8 hexes distance mentioned in the manual?

RedLancer -> RE: trolls (12/31/2015 6:18:29 PM)
@KWG - firstly my post was very generic and secondly I consider that trash talk is not trolling.

KWG -> RE: trolls (12/31/2015 6:44:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Seminole quote: I can only drop para 5 hexs from my lines Was there a change in one of the patches from the original 8 hexes distance mentioned in the manual? That was off the top of my head, it may be eight. Sounds right... based on Bridge too Far

KWG -> RE: trolls (12/31/2015 6:46:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Red Lancer @KWG - firstly my post was very generic and secondly I consider that trash talk is not trolling. Cool[:)] I just wanted to make sure, dont want to rock the boat or offend anyone.

KWG -> RE: trolls (12/31/2015 8:14:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pelton KWG your more then welcome to keep posting. But just stick to game data or start your own bias thread. ARE YOU SERIOUS? Is this the we need to talk speech....."I love you, Iam just not IN love with you"? Bad week?[;)] ...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=silJoHrXsIc

Peltonx -> T-56 (1/1/2016 12:09:10 AM)
Turn 56 VP’s this turn: -19 Total: -60 Manpower: 63,000 Arm Pts: 1,688,000 Light fighting again on Normandy as WA attack just 2 hexes. [image]local://upfiles/20387/7BD0CC13BC434913A94BF3E9327D6A63.jpg[/image]

Peltonx -> Cobra exploit (1/1/2016 12:10:06 AM)
German forces with draw to northern Italy and as with France all of the Allies airpower is used tactically. A few units get pocketed here and there but all have less then 4,000 men as the other 12k have been killed by bombing. I sent several panzer divisions to southern france and a few infantry to North Eastern Italian coast. All replacements to Normandy. [image]local://upfiles/20387/FD84514B4C8B497591C1CB09DA28D87A.jpg[/image]

KWG -> RE: T-56 (1/1/2016 1:23:40 PM)
quote: German forces with draw to northern Italy and as with France all of the Allies airpower is used tactically NO it was not, I bombed Railyards and fuel. I forgot that we are under Martial Law....... YES, yes you are absolutely correct®

Peltonx -> RE: Cobra exploit (1/2/2016 1:20:07 AM)
Turn 58 VP’s this turn: -6 Total: -78 Manpower: 50,000 Arm Pts: 1,500,000 More of the same Cobra exploit with 20-30K men dead per turn because of bombing. [image]local://upfiles/20387/B8766D61F60A4B04817D6F9473683A07.jpg[/image]

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