RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam)

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M60A3TTS -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/21/2016 12:39:26 PM)
cpt, even though the cavalry divisions still cost 20 ap each, you should get about 15 new divisions built. You need them as cavalry corps for any serious winter offensive.

sillyflower -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/21/2016 2:16:46 PM)
It doesn't look like he has the 325 APs needed (inc. cost of making the divisions into corps) for them to be built in time to be much use in this winter. Even if he had the APs, I doubt he has the arms points to spare.

M60A3TTS -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/21/2016 2:35:36 PM)
Volkhov Front arrives next turn to push him near 500 AP. Yes, arms would be an issue but better to start sooner than later.

cpt flam -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/21/2016 3:16:37 PM)
thanks for your advice actually I sent back turn 30 i have few Cav corps but allready 2 guards 20 points is a bit prohibitive in my view

cpt flam -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/23/2016 1:30:57 PM)
Turn 23 or November 20, 1941 again two weeks before winter we have a status-quo between Bryansk and Kharkov Volkhov front arrive Mikhail Khozin (49 Army) is promoted Général Polkovnik [image]local://upfiles/37270/3F1A923C1FD14A619430CDDDA14B5034.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/23/2016 1:35:20 PM)
in the south Makeevka falled in the Huns hands and Vyacheslav Tsvetaev (51 Army) died in an accident Evgeny Zhuravlev will take command this army guard the crimea [image]local://upfiles/37270/0022D673350D4AD98795AF6F15D227C3.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/26/2016 4:36:04 PM)
Turn 24 or November 27, 1941 an overview of the front line before winter a new division is awarded Guard [image]local://upfiles/37270/8107F8ECC2114EADA14E7AC881F1659F.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/26/2016 4:39:02 PM)
and the losses after this bloody summer he got a lot of prisonners [&o] time for revenge come soon [image]local://upfiles/37270/D99E1C0C8F9F490E9E9EAED0EACF7431.jpg[/image]

M60A3TTS -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/26/2016 5:48:57 PM)
Good luck trying to re-take Moscow.

cpt flam -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/28/2016 1:12:14 PM)
Turn 25 or December 4, 1941 NorthWest Front will try to take back Rzhev one more rifle div become Guard and i got my first Tank brigade [image]local://upfiles/37270/BDE4B966DC9E41B4964E0501CC27F798.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/28/2016 1:18:03 PM)
opération is launch toward Tula a lot of Panzer and Motorized div on the front line losses are light for this week Axis 7 500 men, 20 AFV & 200 Guns Russia 10 300 " , 90 " & 130 "" only 6 T34 armies are going to start line in part [image]local://upfiles/37270/04E3AA6440F24614AD825887CB89653A.jpg[/image]

morvael -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/28/2016 1:31:39 PM)
With the Moscow bulge there was not enough infantry divisions to cover front lines, so a tough winter awaited the panzer boys. Besides, manpower is most important factor in preserving army strength, and butchered infantry divisions "cost" more men lost than units with more hardware, which can always be replaced once the production ramps up...

loki100 -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/28/2016 1:55:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: morvael With the Moscow bulge there was not enough infantry divisions to cover front lines, so a tough winter awaited the panzer boys. Besides, manpower is most important factor in preserving army strength, and butchered infantry divisions "cost" more men lost than units with more hardware, which can always be replaced once the production ramps up... also after your success in the autmn, cpt flam must have a finite set of resources ... and you most definitely have something worth defending?

morvael -> RE: Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam) (1/28/2016 2:06:39 PM)
Orders from Wolfsschanze: not one step back! The idea is not to abandon any territory and hard-built forts, but seal any gaps that will appear with help from units remaining in their undamaged forts. Victorious counterattacks will be used to slow down morale decrease by giving me some of it back after winning. edit: the problem is that in areas captured at the end of November (near Rzhev, Kaluga and Tula) there was no time to build forts...

cpt flam -> Turn 26 or December 11, 1941 (2/2/2016 9:10:03 AM)
in the center our lines closed around Tula I got the 24th Guard rifle in this sector losses from my part Axis 11.7 K troops, 330 Art Mine 13.7 k "" , 160 " not much AFV (some from Rum Armor Div [image]local://upfiles/37270/B83B8B6F2B3C45BFB71AAD1ED8734F80.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> RE: Turn 26 or December 11, 1941 (2/2/2016 9:15:50 AM)
as Morvael said there is attacks and counter-attacks this keep both armies occupied my advances are fréquently by brigade at half TOE in the south most actions are between Stalino & Kharkov Nikolai Vatutin (44 Army, Transcaucasus Front) has been dismissed Nikolai Simoniak take command [image]local://upfiles/37270/010192D54E944A148A1F92957E266F70.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> Turn 27 or December 18, 1941 (2/14/2016 9:26:03 AM)
25 th guard promoted in 24 Army (near Rzhev) attacks and counter-attacks around Tula no possibility toward Moscow [image]local://upfiles/37270/9FDA0A1E30A04EC8A2FB2FC1C2EBF618.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> RE: Turn 27 or December 18, 1941 (2/14/2016 9:28:31 AM)
struggle continue between Kursk and Kharkov 3 cav corps are there [image]local://upfiles/37270/4BC4126AB29A4AEB965CC083C88BC390.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> RE: Turn 27 or December 18, 1941 (2/14/2016 9:32:49 AM)
some fights too near Stalino losses this turn 17 660 axis for 21 330; just gone past 3 millions 500 art "" vs 200 for me not much tanks actually 10 cav corps (eleven soon) [image]local://upfiles/37270/128282EEB55E40CEACF36F8AB1460DA8.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 (2/27/2016 10:44:46 AM)
action- réaction between Rzhev and Moscow bulge i got my first Guard cav corps (near is HQ) and the 26th guard inf awarded [image]local://upfiles/37270/542489700EC14367983DE4C3645D5B21.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 (2/27/2016 10:49:49 AM)
despite their claim Tula has been liberated without a fight [image]local://upfiles/37270/5B10184F74E348E29C41E119E342672D.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 (2/27/2016 10:54:04 AM)
action from Orel to the coast losses are interesting 18 910 vs 21 K for me 540 Art for 216 112 AFV for 63 part of axis losses come from Rumania & Hungary [image]local://upfiles/37270/3179CB61E3074B029F3024724EFA6151.jpg[/image]

morvael -> RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 (2/27/2016 5:45:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cpt flam despite their claim Tula has been liberated without a fight With troops NE of Tula in disarray (no fort, clear terrain) it was too hard to hold the city. I knew I will have no time to fortify enough to keep the city, but the goal of November's attack was to destroy factories, so the operation was a success, despite that withdrawal.

gingerbread -> RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 (2/27/2016 7:51:39 PM)
28 guards in '41??? It's supposed to be maxed at 5% but I don't believe for a second that you have 500+ RD's! What gives? Ordinal number of destroyed guards not being reused?

chaos45 -> RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 (2/28/2016 1:55:51 AM)
Ginger- I believe with mild winter the Soviets get a higher guards % to help make up for much tougher Germans in the first winter. I dont know what the higher % is but thats my understanding.

gingerbread -> RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 (2/28/2016 7:35:29 AM)
@chaos45: No, mild winter lowers the requirement for promotion or rather gives bonus to the roll. Or should, that is. As should playing with combat bonus: NONE (no +1). @cpt flam: How many guards RD do you have on map in the last turn of '41, T28?

cpt flam -> RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 (2/28/2016 4:50:24 PM)
Guard units: 26 Rifle div, 1 Cav corps, 3 Para X, 1 Tank X, 3 Sapper and 8 Art

STEF78 -> RE: Turn 28 or Christmas 1941 (2/28/2016 7:38:20 PM)
Could you please post the OOB? I would be surprised if the russians take Moscow back... annoying for 1942...

cpt flam -> Bloody new year (3/6/2016 5:53:49 PM)
ok stef78 here is OOB for january 1st 1942 end of my turn i make a save before ending turn, this serve for this AAR [image]local://upfiles/37270/049DC6227CCF4570A00F74EC2C0600B9.jpg[/image]

cpt flam -> RE: Bloody new year (3/6/2016 6:00:46 PM)
Georgy Zakharov (24 Army) in front of Rzhev has been promoted Général-Leitenant new year give a lot of awards + 23 Guard rifle div, +5 Guard ART and a sapper routed germans are 17 Panzer Div and 8 SS cav brigade [image]local://upfiles/37270/82A0FB17CC7547CDB39CDE0B82BE9469.jpg[/image] [image]local://upfiles/37270/DE36C901D5D241458F3F907D56E1B7DC.jpg[/image]

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