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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/9/2016 10:24:05 PM)

That is what I expected :-). I can directly post what I completed without redoing anything.

JF42 i5 Land attacks, both went well for the axis.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/9/2016 10:53:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

JF42 i5.
What you'll see below is the poorest set of search rolls I have every seen. In the pacific, I had a 40% or better in all zones except one, where I rolled a 3 and needed a 2. I did find in one zone and destroyed 2 CP. But I was not able to cut supply to the Philippines.

CVB, Skua reacted to 0-box. Rolls of 8/7 resulted in no contact.
Central Atlantic, sub initiated and Blenhiem flew to 3-box. Rolls of 5/8 results in no contact.
Polynesia, sub in 3-box initiates. Rolls of 9/10 result in no contact
China Sea Hagura initiates and JP fighter flys to 0-box. Rolls of 8/10 result in no contact.
Central Pacific sub initiates. Rolls of 9/10 result in no contact.
Marianne's the fighter initiates. Rolls of 10/9 result in no contact.
In the East Indian Ocean the JP CA initiates (both vessels are now disorganized). Rolls of 1/5 result in the destruction of both CPs.
W. Indian Ocean a CA initiates. Rolls of 3/10 result in no contact (could have gotten the Queen's).
Cape Naturaliste the CV initiates (both vessels now disorganized). Rolls of 8/6 result in no contact.
No combat initiated in the Marshalls
South China Sea the Ashigara initiates (it and the Idtumo should be disorganized). Rolls of 10/6 result in no contact.

I just got through disorganizing 12 ships and planes. I'll be really glad when the next version of MWiF comes out which I understand will fix this bug.

With respect to your search die rolls, all I can say is wow ... I feel extremely fortunate.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/9/2016 11:06:17 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. The USA Aligns Mexico.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/9/2016 11:06:52 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. Actions.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/10/2016 4:04:41 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. USSR, CA Voroshilov.

Pat, I hope this is ok but I took the liberty of moving the Soviet CA Voroshilov from the force pool and putting him in Leningrad. I don't know if you've been following a couple of other threads where this has been discussed but the Voroshilov should have arrived for the Soviets in May/June 1940.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/10/2016 7:53:12 PM)

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Pat, I hope this is ok but I took the liberty of moving the Soviet CA Voroshilov from the force pool and putting him in Leningrad. I don't know if you've been following a couple of other threads where this has been discussed but the Voroshilov should have arrived for the Soviets in May/June 1940.

No problems. I have seen the issue being discussed. If this makes a difference, I've probably lost anyway :-). I have seldom seen the USSR being able to take a naval or combined when the ports are not frozen.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/10/2016 9:04:02 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. RN Sorties Into/Through the Eastern Med.

The RN will run four naval groups into the Eastern Med.

Group 1 (Malta) - RN CA Berwiok
Group 2 (Malta) - Spanish CA Miguel ed Cervantes
Group 3 (Malta) - RN BB Nelson and (empty) Transport
Group 4 (Port Said) RN CA Palnoja (4-2)

1. Do the axis wish to intercept?

2. If so, which groups and which unit would they like to use for the attempt?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/10/2016 9:50:28 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. RN, Bay of Biscay.

The RN will NOT attempt to initiate combat here.

3. Do the axis wish to try?

4. If so, which unit would you like to use and, if possible, do you wish to add any additional air units to the mix?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/10/2016 10:27:19 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. USN, Polynesia.

2 unescorted CPs located at Pago Pago moved into the Polynesian sea. I made an assumption that you would wish to attempt an intercept, which failed. If this was a bad assumption on my part I can "reorganize" the 5-3 sub that was used for the attempt.

5. Did you wish to have attempted that intercept?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 12:30:29 AM)

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The RN will run four naval groups into the Eastern Med.

Group 1 (Malta) - RN CA Berwiok
Group 2 (Malta) - Spanish CA Miguel ed Cervantes
Group 3 (Malta) - RN BB Nelson and (empty) Transport
Group 4 (Port Said) RN CA Palnoja (4-2)

1. Do the axis wish to intercept?

2. If so, which groups and which unit would they like to use for the attempt?

I will intercept every group. Use the Condor to initiate.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 12:31:48 AM)

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Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1941. Allied #7. RN, Bay of Biscay.

The RN will NOT attempt to initiate combat here.

3. Do the axis wish to try?

4. If so, which unit would you like to use and, if possible, do you wish to add any additional air units to the mix?

Yes, use the Ju 87R (3 NAV factor) to initiate.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 12:46:07 AM)

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unescorted CPs located at Pago Pago moved into the Polynesian sea. I made an assumption that you would wish to attempt an intercept, which failed. If this was a bad assumption on my part I can "reorganize" the 5-3 sub that was used for the attempt.

5. Did you wish to have attempted that intercept?


It is fine. They will certainly intercept any transports that move this way. Now, both subs should be disorganized.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 12:50:00 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. RN Group #3, Eastern Med. Axis Intercept Attempt #1.

RN Group #3 continues on to the 1-box of the Arabian Sea.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 12:54:13 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. RN Group #2, Eastern Med. Axis Intercept Attempt #2.

RN Group #2 continues on to the 1-box of the West Indian Ocean.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 12:58:42 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. RN Group #1, Eastern Med. Axis Intercept Attempt #3.

RN Group #1 is successfully intercepted by the German Condor NAV. The RN CA Berwick decides to stop and got to the 0-box of the East Med.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 1:05:06 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. RN Group #4, Eastern Med. Axis Intercept Attempt #4.

Because of the successful intecept by the axis of the heavy cruiser Berwick, which stopped and went to box 0, the RN decides to move the AUS CA Canberra down from the 1-box to the 0-box and voluntarily stops the CA Dalmacija (Group 4) in the 1-box.

The CW will Not attempt to initiate combat in the East Med.

1. I assume that the axis will want to try. Correct?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 1:10:27 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. USN. Polynesia. No Combat.

2. Do the Japanese wish to attempt to initiate combat in Polynesia?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 1:12:59 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. USN. The Marshalls. No Combat.

3. Do the Japanese wish to attempt to initiate combat in the Marshalls?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 1:17:10 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. USN. China Sea. Attempt to Initiate Combat.

The USN 4-sub will attempt to initiate combat in the China Sea.

4. Do the Japanese wish to add any additional air? If so, where?

5. What are your orders if combat proceeds?

By the way, the USN also has a sub unit (4-3) in the 2-box of the Sea of Japan.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 2:09:15 AM)

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The CW will Not attempt to initiate combat in the East Med.

1. I assume that the axis will want to try. Correct?

Correct.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 2:11:07 AM)

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2. Do the Japanese wish to attempt to initiate combat in Polynesia?

No




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 2:11:28 AM)

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3. Do the Japanese wish to attempt to initiate combat in the Marshalls?

No




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 2:26:08 AM)

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Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. USN. China Sea. Attempt to Initiate Combat.

The USN 4-sub will attempt to initiate combat in the China Sea.

4. Do the Japanese wish to add any additional air? If so, where?

No

quote:


5. What are your orders if combat proceeds?

If I find with the 4-box, the CA will engage the subs only in surface combat (unless the split delta is 8 in which case include the US CPs).
If I have 2-3 SP move your attack column down 1 to ne.
If I have 4-5 SP move my attack column up 2 to D 3A.
If I have 6-7 SP move my attack column up 3 to 2D 3A.
If I have 8+ SP move your attack column down 1 and mine up as far as possible.

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By the way, the USN also has a sub unit (4-3) in the 2-box of the Sea of Japan.

Fly the NAV in Tokyo to the 0-box of the Sea of Japan.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 2:40:29 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. China Sea.

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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

quote:

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. USN. China Sea. Attempt to Initiate Combat.

The USN 4-sub will attempt to initiate combat in the China Sea.

4. Do the Japanese wish to add any additional air? If so, where?

No

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5. What are your orders if combat proceeds?

If I find with the 4-box, the CA will engage the subs only in surface combat (unless the split delta is 8 in which case include the US CPs).
If I have 2-3 SP move your attack column down 1 to ne.
If I have 4-5 SP move my attack column up 2 to D 3A.
If I have 6-7 SP move my attack column up 3 to 2D 3A.
If I have 8+ SP move your attack column down 1 and mine up as far as possible.
Fly the NAV in Tokyo to the 0-box of the Sea of Japan.
Search rolls 10 - 10. Neither side was able to find the water, much less their enemy.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 2:43:06 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. USN. Central Pacific. No Combat.

No chance for the Japanese to initiate.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 2:46:11 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. USN. Sea of Japan.

Search rolls 3 - 3. No contact.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 2:49:18 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. RN. West Indian Ocean. No Combat.

Do the axis wish to try to initiate combat in the West Indian Ocean.

Instructions if you succeed.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 2:51:44 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. RN. Central Atlantic. Cape Verde Basin. No Combat.

No opportunity for the axis to try.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 2:56:48 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. France. West Med. No Combat.

No opportunity for the axis to try.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (12/11/2016 3:06:09 AM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. Bay of Biscay. Non-Phasing Initiate Attempt.

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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

quote:

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Allied #7. RN, Bay of Biscay.

The RN will NOT attempt to initiate combat here.

3. Do the axis wish to try?

4. If so, which unit would you like to use and, if possible, do you wish to add any additional air units to the mix?

Yes, use the Ju 87R (3 NAV factor) to initiate.


Do you wish to fly out any additional air? (He 111H and BF 110D available).

If so where?

I don't see a 3 factor NAV (Ju 87R) is the Bay of Biscay. Which unit would you like to use for the combat attempt?

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