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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/27/2016 10:29:54 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Deploy Units. CW.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/27/2016 10:30:16 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Deploy Units. USA.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/27/2016 10:30:38 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Deploy Units. USSR.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/27/2016 10:31:34 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Trade.

The only change from last turn was that Germany reduced the number of resources sent to Italy to 2 (1 oil) from 4 (1 oil).

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/27/2016 10:32:08 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Initiative.

The axis win the first roll and elect to move first.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/27/2016 10:32:36 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Axis #1. Weather.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/27/2016 11:13:19 PM)

JF42 start of i1: Here is a saved game file for those wanting to peruse the whole map before the beginning of general global war (see next post).



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/27/2016 11:18:07 PM)

JF42 i1: DOW step
The following declarations have been made.
Germany and Italy DOW the USSR (resulting in one chit going to the entry pool).
Japan declares war on the CW and France (resulting in 6 chits going into the US entry pool).
The Japanese call out their reserves.
{I have not yet had the chance to align minors}

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/27/2016 11:39:21 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1941. Axis #1. USSR Calls Out Their Reserves.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/27/2016 11:40:45 PM)

Turn 15. Jan/Feb 1942. Axis #1. USSR Reserves?

Though the USSR called out the reserves, they won't be available until next turn (Mar/Apr 1941). That's not right is it?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/28/2016 12:16:37 AM)

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Though the USSR called out the reserves, they won't be available until next turn (Mar/Apr 1941). That's not right is it?

That is not right. You should be able to set them up disorganized. Let me check what auto saved game files I may have.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/28/2016 12:31:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

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Though the USSR called out the reserves, they won't be available until next turn (Mar/Apr 1941). That's not right is it?

That is not right. You should be able to set them up disorganized. Let me check what auto saved game files I may have.
Nice save, pun intended. [:D]

We're back in business. [:)]

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/28/2016 12:50:37 AM)

Aligned Rumania and Siam. Rolls shown below resulted in no US entry chits.

In case you were not aware, I needed the Germans to DOW Russia so that they could align Finland. If the USSR had moved first and declared war on Germany, then Finland would never have been allowed to align to Germany.

Also, I have to break for dinner now and it may be a few hours, I'm going to need to think things through carefully. Don't wait up for me.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/28/2016 1:05:34 AM)

Pat,

Don't hurry. We can pick this up tomorrow. Enjoy your dinner and the game tonight.



Centuur -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/28/2016 1:44:13 PM)

Question: were there any other Japanese MIL removed from the map when Japan got neutral (units whitout an R on the counter)? If so: I smell a bug, since all MIL which are removed when a major power revers to neutrality should be put in the reserve pool...



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/28/2016 10:34:03 PM)

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Question: were there any other Japanese MIL removed from the map when Japan got neutral (units whitout an R on the counter)? If so: I smell a bug, since all MIL which are removed when a major power revers to neutrality should be put in the reserve pool...

Peter,

I went back and checked.
Just before the Chinese surrender in MA41, all of the Japanese Miltia had been built. All but the Hiroshima were on the map, the Hiroshima had just been built and was on the spiral for arrival in MJ41. I also checked just after reinforcements in MJ41, at that point all the miltia (reserve and war labeled) were in the reserve pool except for the Hiroshima. Looking for it in the units menu, I found that it was under future force pool additions.

So, I suspect you are correct and there is a bug. I believe that all of these should have been placed back on the board once Japan was back at war since they had been built earlier. Let me know what saved game files you would like me to place in the Tech Forum.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 12:33:40 AM)

JF42: i1 naval moves
Actions: GE Land, JP super combined (offensive chit), Italy combined
No naval air for Japan. German moves Condor to the E. Med 4-box. Italy moves Gabbiano to W. Med 4-box and a Macchi fighter to the 1-box of BoB.

Italy is moving the fleet in Gibraltar to W. Med. Will you intercept?



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 1:25:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

JF42: i1 naval moves
Actions: GE Land, JP super combined (offensive chit), Italy combined
No naval air for Japan. German moves Condor to the E. Med 4-box. Italy moves Gabbiano to W. Med 4-box and a Macchi fighter to the 1-box of BoB.

Italy is moving the fleet in Gibraltar to W. Med. Will you intercept?
Yes, use one of the French heavy cruisers in the 1-box for the attempt.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 1:35:35 AM)

French found on a two (Duqueana initiated). The Italians stop in the 4-box.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 1:45:24 AM)

JF42 i1:
Below is shown the naval combat options for this impulse.
The Italians have initiated in BoB and the axis reacted a number of air units out to the 1-box. What will the CW react out?

2nd, the Italians will not initiate in the W. Med. Do the Allies wish to initiate searches?j

On the Asian fronts, I don't believe the allies will be able to react any aircraft out.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 2:14:41 AM)

Bay of Biscay: the CW will fly four fighter units out of England into the 0-box. Spitfire II in Cardiff, Tomahawk P-40 and Hurricane II in Liverpool and Hurricane XII in Plymouth.

West Med: The allies will try to initiate using the French CA that was used for the interception.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 4:58:25 AM)

JF42 i1: Naval Searches
BoB rolls 8/9 -> no contact

Bay of Bengal rolls of 2/8 resulte in JP finding with 13 SP (during surprise impulse).
Naval air and all for increasing damage is very excessive versus 1 CP.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 5:14:15 AM)

JF42: Naval Searches
S. Ch Sea rolls of 10/3 -> no contact
E. In Oc rolls of 5/6 resulted in no contact
Cape Natu. roll of 6/2 resulted in no contact
Other Pacific combats options were against US CP's only and no combat allowed.

Allies initiated in W. Med, rolls of 2/1 resulted in both finding. Axis had 1 SP and they made it a Naval Air with an A applied. Rnd 2 coming next.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 5:20:30 AM)

W. Med rnd 2
Both find on rolls of 2/2. Axis make it a Naval air with 2 SP resulting in 2 aborts versus the CW CA's.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 5:26:49 AM)

Rnd3 in W. Med
both find on searches of 4/1. Allies have 1 SP. Axis make it a naval air. The French BB makes its damage control roll versus the abort.


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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 5:43:06 AM)

Rnd 4 went more the allied way. Rolls of 6/2 allowed the CW to choose a surface and increase damage on the 0-box alone to a D, which destroyed the convoy. I'm assuming you will stay. Let me know later if this needs to be redone.


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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 5:53:45 AM)

rnd 5:
Axis found on a 1/6 with 7 surprise points.
Naval air and moved column up 3 to 2D A
FR BB saved on it's D,
FR CA failed it's D
CW CA failed it's A.
This time, because the CP was no longer available, I did not commit the FR sub. So, I'll have the allies abort the combat, which should leave the sub in the zone. There would have been no surface ships in the zone after this round anyway (The axis could have potentially sunk the FR CA with another damage).

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 5:58:31 AM)

I aborted the CW units to Malta.
The FR units could abort to Bone or Souse on the W. Med (out of supply). If they head to Syria, the German Condor in the E. Med could intercept. If it finds that could result in multiple rounds of combat in the E. Med.
What do you wish to do?



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 11:06:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

I aborted the CW units to Malta.
The FR units could abort to Bone or Souse on the W. Med (out of supply). If they head to Syria, the German Condor in the E. Med could intercept. If it finds that could result in multiple rounds of combat in the E. Med.
What do you wish to do?
Please send the aborted French ships to Ajaccio, Corsica.



Centuur -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (11/29/2016 1:22:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ashkpa

quote:

Question: were there any other Japanese MIL removed from the map when Japan got neutral (units whitout an R on the counter)? If so: I smell a bug, since all MIL which are removed when a major power revers to neutrality should be put in the reserve pool...

Peter,

I went back and checked.
Just before the Chinese surrender in MA41, all of the Japanese Miltia had been built. All but the Hiroshima were on the map, the Hiroshima had just been built and was on the spiral for arrival in MJ41. I also checked just after reinforcements in MJ41, at that point all the miltia (reserve and war labeled) were in the reserve pool except for the Hiroshima. Looking for it in the units menu, I found that it was under future force pool additions.

So, I suspect you are correct and there is a bug. I believe that all of these should have been placed back on the board once Japan was back at war since they had been built earlier. Let me know what saved game files you would like me to place in the Tech Forum.


I think the autosave from just before the DoW phase would be the one to be put in the Tech forum. If you check the Reserve Pool there, those MIL should be in that pool. If so: that's the one needed to fix this one.



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