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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 3:01:34 AM)

Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. The Marianas.

The USN is attempting to initiate a naval combat in the Marianas. The IJN has two air units which can react. The H6K based in Sapporo and the fighter based in Truk.

Will one or both of these air units react?.

If so, where?

If contact is made, what are you orders?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 3:06:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

And the USA took a?
Well it appears that bug is back. The USA took a combine.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 3:59:26 AM)

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Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. Contested Sea Areas. The Marshalls.

The USN decides NOT to attempt to initiate combat; however, the IJN submarine unit that failed the intercept attempt can.

Do you wish to attempt to initiate combat? If so, what are your orders if contact is made?
Too Hot for me now. Subs stay under and do not search.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 4:01:03 AM)

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The RN will not to attempt to initiate combat in the East Med. However, the Italians can if they wish. The only additional air unit that the CW has available that could react is a fighter based on the coast in Egypt.

Do the Italians wish to attempt to initiate combat? If so, what are their orders if contact is made?

I will not at this time.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 4:01:54 AM)

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Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. The Marianas.

The USN is attempting to initiate a naval combat in the Marianas. The IJN has two air units which can react. The H6K based in Sapporo and the fighter based in Truk.

Will one or both of these air units react?.

If so, where?

If contact is made, what are you orders?
Neither reacts.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 4:02:55 AM)

If I have enough SP, I will avoid combat in the Marianas.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 3:04:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

If I have enough SP, I will avoid combat in the Marianas.
Combat avoided.


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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 3:35:42 PM)

Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. USSR, Ground Strikes x 3.

The USSR is attempting three ground strikes. The Luftwaffe has four fighter units that can intercept.

How does the Luftwaffe wish to respond to these ground strikes?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 8:14:46 PM)

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How does the Luftwaffe wish to respond to these ground strikes?
I will ignore those gnats flying around. No interceptions.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 8:33:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

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How does the Luftwaffe wish to respond to these ground strikes?
I will ignore those gnats flying around. No interceptions.
Gnats indeed. [:(]


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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 8:59:24 PM)

Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #11. USSR, Land Combat.

The Soviets will be conducting two land combat. Von Bock can provide HQ support to the second combat. Will he?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 9:20:24 PM)

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Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #11. USSR, Land Combat.

The Soviets will be conducting two land combat. Von Bock can provide HQ support to the second combat. Will he?
Yes he will. The turn is likely to end anyway.

I believe I have two fighters that can fly has bombers to the northern most attack. If that is all I have that can fly, then that is what they will do.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 9:25:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

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Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #11. USSR, Land Combat.

The Soviets will be conducting two land combat. Von Bock can provide HQ support to the second combat. Will he?
Yes he will. The turn is likely to end anyway.

I believe I have two fighters that can fly has bombers to the northern most attack. If that is all I have that can fly, then that is what they will do.
OK, will do. But they'll be opposed by one Soviet fighter unit.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 9:30:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rkr1958

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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

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Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #11. USSR, Land Combat.

The Soviets will be conducting two land combat. Von Bock can provide HQ support to the second combat. Will he?
Yes he will. The turn is likely to end anyway.

I believe I have two fighters that can fly has bombers to the northern most attack. If that is all I have that can fly, then that is what they will do.
OK, will do. But they'll be opposed by one Soviet fighter unit.

No worry, both German fighter units flying as bombers make it through.


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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 9:47:41 PM)

Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. USSR, Land Combat.

The two Soviet land combats aren't a complete disaster but don't go very well with two slightly lower than expected average rolls.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 9:48:14 PM)

Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. USSR.

Yikes.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 9:49:05 PM)

Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11.

Double Yikes. This turn continues. The USSR is toast.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 10:10:28 PM)

Yeh, those two attacks are going to come back to haunt you. The HQ stack will be put out of supply easily and defends with 2 strength. I may be able to put the upper stack out of supply as well (haven't checked if there is a city underneath one of the stacks), but that would have me getting more aggressive with the lead units. Not sure if I will.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/29/2017 11:52:06 PM)

ND42 i13 axis actions shown

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/30/2017 12:17:05 AM)

ND42 i13 Naval Combat Possibilities.
Key Moves so far. JP flied a bomber and fighter to the 4-box of the Marianas. The reminder of JP fleet in Truk sailed to the 4-box of the Marianas. The CA in Manila carried the Mar-div to the 4-box of the Bismark Sea.

Italy sailed 2x CA and 2x BB to the E. Med, sub to the N. Atlantic and 2 subs to the Faeroes Gap.

I will start the searches in the areas later this evening.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/30/2017 1:20:09 AM)

Searches so far,
a) Central Pacific rolls of 4/7 (axis/allies) --> no combat
b) Arabian Sea rolls of 8/8 --> no combat
c) W. Indian Ocean rolls of 10/2 --> no combat
d) Marianas rolls of 1/7 result in combat (images below)
JP has 7 SP. Use 4 to select surface combat. Use 3 to select first target.
2X 2D 2A taken by the allies
X 2D taken by the axis
Allies first X is taken by the CV Enterprise (choosen by the JP). It makes it's damage control roll and is only damaged.
The USA gets to assign the other damage. I will then continue with the axis damage and round 2 if you are staying.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/30/2017 2:29:20 PM)

1. X to CA Portland.
2. D to CA Houston.
3. D to CA Portland
4. A to Enterprise
5. A to Enterprise if not aborted; otherwise to a damaged CA.

The USN will not stay for a second round. Return all ships back to Pearl.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/30/2017 7:23:09 PM)

I altered instruction 3. I assumed you really did not want to have the damaged Portland make a D roll, so I applied to Baltimore.
You made all the damage control rolls except the 2nd A on the Enterprise, where failing meant nothing.
I decided, I'd rather have a damaged Yamato than a sunk other ship. Glad I made that decision when my first damage control roll was a 1.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/30/2017 7:40:16 PM)

North Atlantic Search rolls of 1/4 resulted in Italian sub engaging the convoys in the 0-box.
Net damaged sub and 2 CP destroyed.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/30/2017 7:49:48 PM)

Faeroes Gap the search rolls were 3/2, so both 3-boxes found each other with the CW having 1 SP point.
End result was the CA and both subs were aborted. (I moved the CA to Liverpool)

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/30/2017 7:56:47 PM)

Last comes the E. Med
Image below shows what is there after the Axis moves and reactions. Does the CW want to react the fighter on the Egyptian Coast to the zone (0 or 1 box)?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/30/2017 8:32:43 PM)

Yes, 2nd fighter will react to 0-box.

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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

I altered instruction 3. I assumed you really did not want to have the damaged Portland make a D roll, so I applied to Baltimore.
You're right, I didn't want to apply a D to an already damaged CA. That was a mess up on my part. Thanks for correcting!



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/30/2017 9:33:43 PM)

E. Med. Rnd 1 search rolls of 3/5 resulted in much of the axis force finding and engaging the 0-box with 6-SP.
Made it an Naval Air Battle (thought about surface). Used 2 SP to move my A-A up 1 and 4 SP to move yours down 2 for a net +/-2 on the chart.
First round went my way.
I determined that you would clear the weaker Italian Bomber and your lead fighter was shot down.
You appear to still be online, so I'll see if you want to stay for round two of the air to air combat (if I don't hear in a bit, I'll assume yes. This is based on past instruction history).


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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/30/2017 10:10:18 PM)

Yes, the CW will stay for a second round of AA.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (7/30/2017 10:30:53 PM)

Round 2 went well for the axis. Cleared the GE NAV and shot down the second CW fighter. 2A was the result (less than I expected, I had forgotten the rain halved the A-S factorsJ). Aborted the CW CP and the weakest CA which failed it's damage control.

Last image in sequence below shows the status going into round 2 of the naval combat. Will you stay?

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