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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/17/2017 4:12:19 AM)

ND43 i1 GS results
Missed the image of the air combat results (had issues with screen hidden by other screens). The allies rolled a 10, clearing the fighter bomber. The axis rolled a 15 aborting the CW fighter. No other units involved.
Ground strikes successful.
In Lisbon the Italians planes apparently concentrated on the airfields.
Stavropol half successful.
Vlad, I got both corp.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/17/2017 4:15:39 AM)

Three LA attacks: Benghazi, Stavropol and Vlad.
You can support Stavropol defenders. Information below. Manstein and Yamato are providing support to their respective attacks.

Note, tomorrow I am flying to the Midwest for the eclipse. I will have internet access, but probably less time over the next week plus.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/17/2017 12:45:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

You can support Stavropol defenders. Information below.
The Soviet bomber, Ye-2, will fly defensive ground supported escorted by the fighter (Pe-3bis). The Soviet fighter will target the German bombers and remain until all bombers are cleared, shot down or aborted.


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

Note, tomorrow I am flying to the Midwest for the eclipse.
Where we are, Huntsville/Madison AL area we'll be getting 97% eclipse. Just a little over an hour north in Nashville, it's 100%. My son's school is letting out at noon, however, they can miss the entire day without excuse.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/19/2017 12:57:34 AM)

No access to WiFi at the farm house, so no images from the computer (this is from cell phone). Both my bomber cleared and yours was aborted. Net roll at Stavropol was an 18 which caused a defensive loss and disorganized the attackers. At Vlad it was worse with a net 14. You should be happy. Will try to get to WiFi tomorrow.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/23/2017 4:38:17 AM)

ND 43 i1. Air combat over Stavropol

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/23/2017 4:40:51 AM)

Land Attacks. Missed image for the Stavropol (missed fractional and rolled an 8, result was defender loses one unit and attackers all disorganized).

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/24/2017 12:53:33 AM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Actions.

The USSR take a land. The USA, CW and French all take navals.

The following six sea areas are of potential naval conflict.
1. Marianas.
2. South China Sea.
3. Bay of Bengal.
4. Arabian Sea.
5. West Med.
6. East Med.

Decisions/questions effecting these potential conflict are covered in the next six posts.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/24/2017 12:55:45 AM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Potential Naval Conflict. The Marianas.

The USN will attempt to initiate naval combat in the Marianas. Shown are the forces involved and air units that can react.

1. What are your instructions for Japanese air reactions?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/24/2017 12:56:46 AM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Potential Naval Conflict. South China Sea.

The RN sub will attempt to initiate combat in the South China Sea. Shown are the forces involved and air units that can react.

2. What are your instructions for Japanese air reactions?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/24/2017 12:59:36 AM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Potential Naval Conflict. Bay of Bengal.

The RN CA and sub will attempt to initiate combat in the Bay of Bengal. Shown are the forces involved; however, there are no air units on either side that can react. This post is included to inform you of the intention of the RN to attempt to initiate combat.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/24/2017 1:01:15 AM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Potential Naval Conflict. The Arabian Sea.

The RN will not attempt to initiate combat in the Arabian Sea. However, the Japanese as the non-phasing player can. Shown are the forces involved; however, there are no air units on either side that can react.

By the way, the CV Ark Royal is in the 3-box.

3. What are your instructions?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/24/2017 1:03:16 AM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Potential Naval Conflict. The West Med.

The RN sub will attempt to initiate combat in the West Med. Shown are the forces involved and the air units that can react.

4. What are your instructions?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/24/2017 1:04:56 AM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Potential Naval Conflict. East Med.

The RN will not attempt to initiate combat in the East Med. However, the Italians/Germans as the non-phasing player can. Shown are the forces involved and the air units that can react.

5. What are your instructions?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 1:43:11 AM)

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Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Potential Naval Conflict. The Marianas.

The USN will attempt to initiate naval combat in the Marianas. Shown are the forces involved and air units that can react.

1. What are your instructions for Japanese air reactions?
Ki-27 reacts to the 0-box. Avoid combat if my choice.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 1:46:43 AM)

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Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Potential Naval Conflict. South China Sea.

The RN sub will attempt to initiate combat in the South China Sea. Shown are the forces involved and air units that can react.

2. What are your instructions for Japanese air reactions?
NAV to the 0-box.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 1:50:22 AM)

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Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Potential Naval Conflict. The Arabian Sea.

The RN will not attempt to initiate combat in the Arabian Sea. However, the Japanese as the non-phasing player can. Shown are the forces involved; however, there are no air units on either side that can react.

By the way, the CV Ark Royal is in the 3-box.

3. What are your instructions?
Initiate combat. CP first priority, so engage 0-box only unless JP fighter is also involved. If fighter is involved with my NAV, then switch to Ark Royal as priority and only engage the higher box.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 1:51:18 AM)

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Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Potential Naval Conflict. The West Med.

The RN sub will attempt to initiate combat in the West Med. Shown are the forces involved and the air units that can react.

4. What are your instructions?
React the Sparviero to the 0-box.



ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 1:54:32 AM)

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Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Potential Naval Conflict. East Med.

The RN will not attempt to initiate combat in the East Med. However, the Italians/Germans as the non-phasing player can. Shown are the forces involved and the air units that can react.

5. What are your instructions?
Initiate with the German Condor. Nobody new flies out. Sink the CP as the first priority. If I can engage the general fleet in a Naval Air and ensure getting the CP (enough surprise to reduce AA and increase columns), then engage the higher box as well as the 0-box. Else just engage the lower box.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 6:08:35 PM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. The Marianas. Round 1.

Well, this naval combat was an interesting one and resulted in me filing a bug report in the tech section.

1. The USN decides to attempt to initiate a naval combat in the Marianas.

2. The USA reacts with a NAV and fighter to the 2-box.

3. The CW reacts with a fighter to the 2-box.

4. The Japanese react with their Ki-27 fighter to the 0-box.

5. Search rolls, Allies 6, Japanese 3. Only the Japanese find but even when they isolated the lower (2-box) they fall short of the 4 SP's required to avoid combat. So the allies choose a naval air combat.

This is where the bug occurs (see tech forum for specific details).

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 6:13:15 PM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. The Marianas. Round 1. (con't)

After a bit of trail and error I found this workaround to the bug, which was a showstopper.

1. The Japanese include both allied boxes (2 & 3).

2. The allies, however, fly all USN CVP's in the 3-box as fighters. Since there are no Japanese air units involved then this effectively eliminates them from this round.

3. The selection of the 3-box reduces surprise points available to the Japanese from 3 to 2, but since the Japanese could only use 2 anyway this is irrelevant.

4. So through trail and error we have our "weird" workaround and then proceed to the naval air battle.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 6:17:54 PM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. The Marianas. Round 1. (con't)

I decide to save the 2 Japanese SP's to reduce the naval column by 1 of the allied planes that get through. It wasn't really necessary as Japanese AA reduce allied bombs from 4 to 1. Even before shifting the attack column down by 1, the 1-bomb has no effect on the lone Japanese cruiser.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 6:18:53 PM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. The Marianas. Round 2.

Searches, allied 10 and Japanese 7. Both sides miss, combat ends in the Marianas.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 6:20:40 PM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. South China Sea. Round 1.

1. IJN NAV reacts to the 0-box.

2. Search rolls, allies 10, Japanese 1. More than enough surprise points to send the RN sub to the bottom.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 6:22:59 PM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Bay of Bengal. Round 1.

Japanese CP is sunk and RN sub is forced to abort.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 6:24:41 PM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Bay of Bengal. Round 2.

1. Both sides stay.

2. Both search rolls fail to find. Combat ends in the Bay of Bengal.



rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 6:26:21 PM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Western Med. Round 1.

1. RN sub attempts to initiate combat.

2. An Italian NAV (Sparviero) reacts to the 0-box.

3. Both search rolls fail to find. No combat.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 6:27:46 PM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Eastern Med. Round 1.

1. The CW declines to attempt to initiate a naval combat.

2. The Germans, as the non-phasing player, do and use their Condor NAV for the attempt.

3. No additional axis air units react.

4. Both search rolls fail to find. No combat.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 6:29:37 PM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied #3. Arabian Sea.

1. The CW declines to attempt to initiate a naval combat.

2. The Japaneses, as the non-phasing player, do and use their NAV for the attempt.

3. Both search rolls fail to find. No combat.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 6:43:19 PM)

Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied Ground Strikes.

1. The allies are attempting ground strikes against three axis stacks in Portugal.

2. Shown are the axis fighters than can intercept.

3. Also, shown are the allied fighters that can counter-intercept if axis fighters fly.

4. How do you wish to respond?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (8/28/2017 10:48:51 PM)

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Turn 21. Jan/Feb 1943. Allied Ground Strikes.

1. The allies are attempting ground strikes against three axis stacks in Portugal.

2. Shown are the axis fighters than can intercept.

3. Also, shown are the allied fighters that can counter-intercept if axis fighters fly.

4. How do you wish to respond?

The Bf-109 in the hex the Beaufighter is attacking, will react to the hex the Wellington is bombing and return to his initial hex..
The Falco will intercept in his own hex (he will return to the hex next to the hex the Wellington is at not his own hex.



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