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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/21/2017 11:51:44 PM)

Turn 22. Mar/Apr 1943. Allied #5. RN. The Arabian Sea. No Combat.

The RN chooses not to attempt to initiate and the axis cannot try.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/21/2017 11:52:14 PM)

Turn 22. Mar/Apr 1943. Allied #5. RN. The East Med. No Combat.

The RN chooses not to attempt to initiate and the axis cannot try.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/21/2017 11:54:36 PM)

Turn 22. Mar/Apr 1943. Allied #5. RN. The Bay of Biscay. Potential Naval Combat.

The RN chooses not to attempt to initiate but because the allies (CW & USA) added additional air units to the area during the naval air phase the Germans can if they wish. Shown are the additional allied and axis air units that can react if combat is attempted.

Instructions for the Bay of Biscay?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/21/2017 11:55:57 PM)

Turn 22. Mar/Apr 1943. Allied #5. RN. Western Med. Potential Naval Combat.

The RN will attempt to initiate a sub combat in the Western Med. Shown are the additional axis air units that can react.

Instructions for the Western Med?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/22/2017 4:13:05 AM)

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Turn 22. Mar/Apr 1943. Allied #5. RN. The Bay of Biscay. Potential Naval Combat.

The RN chooses not to attempt to initiate but because the allies (CW & USA) added additional air units to the area during the naval air phase the Germans can if they wish. Shown are the additional allied and axis air units that can react if combat is attempted.

Instructions for the Bay of Biscay?

Germans will initiate.
The Italian Nav, Gabbiano (65,15), the Germans He100 (St. Naz.), Bf109 (Bayonne), BF110c (Lorient), Bf110d (57,24) and Bf110c (55,24) all react to the 1-box. Response will be difficult depending on surprise. If only the fleet finds it will engage 3-box in a surface battle with enough surprise. If not enough surprise to get the surface, then it will engage the 0-box. Go for the transports carrying the fighters. If my 1-box finds, then likely to engage the 0-box unless you fly a lot more fighters out to the 0-box, then I may engage the 3 or 4-box in a naval air battle.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/22/2017 4:13:48 AM)

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Turn 22. Mar/Apr 1943. Allied #5. RN. Western Med. Potential Naval Combat.

The RN will attempt to initiate a sub combat in the Western Med. Shown are the additional axis air units that can react.

Instructions for the Western Med?
If I can destroy, damage or abort the sub, then do that otherwise avoid the combat.




rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/22/2017 12:49:43 PM)

Turn 22. Mar/Apr 1943. Allied #5. West Med. Round 1.

This naval battle goes the axis way. RN sub group is damaged and forced to abort.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/22/2017 12:50:38 PM)

Turn 22. Mar/Apr 1943. Allied #5. Bay of Biscay. Round 1.

Search. Axis 6, Allies 8. No Contact.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/25/2017 11:15:24 PM)

MA43 i8 axis actions

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/25/2017 11:18:26 PM)

MA43 i8 Axis Naval Moves.
Early in the naval moves JP is moving a CA through the BoBengal, to be followed by another CA and potentially a CV (depending on what happens before). Will you intercept?

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 1:35:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

MA43 i8 Axis Naval Moves.
Early in the naval moves JP is moving a CA through the BoBengal, to be followed by another CA and potentially a CV (depending on what happens before). Will you intercept?
Yes, attempt intercept please.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 1:52:14 AM)

forgot to record the roll, but it was a 7. The first CA continues moving into the Arabian Sea. Will you attempt interception here?

The second CA will take the same route, so I'll assume you'll intercept it in the BoB and the same for what ever you do here.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 4:16:41 AM)

Arabian Sea - no attempt to intercept. Yes, all the same for the next IJN CA.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 8:56:26 PM)

First CA went on to the Red Sea,

The BoBeng intercept of the 2nd failed, image below (went on to the Azanian Sea). CV in the Indonesia port decided not to sail.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 8:58:40 PM)

Later, decided to reinforce the Japanese Indian Expeditionary Force.
A transport, from Japan, with an ARM HQ runs the gauntlet and makes it safely through to Cocanada.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 9:00:46 PM)

The following CAV-div was forced to stop in the zone. It was later joined by several battleships in the 0-box. A CV and CA moved into the 3-box.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 9:03:12 PM)

The Japanese also reinforced the Solomons and the Coral Sea (both in storm, so naval air is not a factor - at least till the next weather roll).
Here is all of the possible naval combats. I'll start going through those with minimal chance of choices (where poor weather or lack of air limits reaction options).

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 9:31:02 PM)

MA43 Axis Naval Searches
E. Med rolls of 6/9 result in nc
N. Atlantic rolls of 9/4 result in nc
Polylnesia rolls of 4/4/ result in nc

Solomons rolls of 9/1 result in allies BB find the CAs and sub (which was committed). You have 7 or 8 surprise points (depending if you include the 4-box in the battle or not). Your choice?

I continued on while awaiting your decision.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 9:33:39 PM)

Continuing with the searches (I assumed you'd avoid, but will go back and adjust as needed)

Coral Sea rolls of 6/3 result in nc
SE Indian Ocean rolls of 6/3 result in nc
W Indian Ocean rolls of 2/8 result in nc

Cape Naturaliste rolls of 3/1 result in axis finding and destroying the CP

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 9:39:04 PM)

MA43 Naval searches continued

Bay of Bengal, the axis do not initiate searches (the allies will have a chance - I'll share later).

Arabian Sea rolls of 3/2 result in axis finding.
Axis engage only the 0-box and make it a naval air. Not enough AA to make a difference. there is an error in one of the screen displays, but it is correct in the screen with the application of the results. Results are CP destroyed and BB/CA are aborted.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 9:41:12 PM)

In the Arabian Sea, do you wish to abort before the 2nd round. Axis will be staying.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/26/2017 11:07:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ashkpa
Solomons rolls of 9/1 result in allies BB find the CAs and sub (which was committed). You have 7 or 8 surprise points (depending if you include the 4-box in the battle or not). Your choice?

1. Include 4-box, which gives me 7 SP's (I believe)?
2. Default to surface battle.
3. So if I've figured right, starting results against the IJN ships/sub is X, D & 3A and against the USN ships is X & 2A.
4. Use all SP's to shift results against the IJN ships 3-columns to the right, 2X, D & A.
5. Apply X against Washington and if it survives then apply the A's.


Arabian Sea. Stay and avoid combat if possible.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/27/2017 12:14:14 AM)

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ashkpa
Solomons rolls of 9/1 result in allies BB find the CAs and sub (which was committed). You have 7 or 8 surprise points (depending if you include the 4-box in the battle or not). Your choice?

1. Include 4-box, which gives me 7 SP's (I believe)?
2. Default to surface battle.
3. So if I've figured right, starting results against the IJN ships/sub is X, D & 3A and against the USN ships is X & 2A.
4. Use all SP's to shift results against the IJN ships 3-columns to the right, 2X, D & A.
5. Apply X against Washington and if it survives then apply the A's.


I believe you miss figured, used the sub & ASW row and not the surface row.
Allies vs Axis: 16 factors vs 3 ships starts at X A, moving it up 3 columns (6 SP) moves it to X 2D 2A
Axis vs Allies: 13 factors (sub reduced 1 in surface) vs 2 ships starts at a D 3A

Still likely to clear me, so I am assuming your use of surprise is the same. I'll wait a few minutes to see if you respond before continuing.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/27/2017 1:02:53 AM)

Solomon Islands result below. Both US BB aborted to Pearl (feel free to move them elsewhere if desired)
JP sub sunk, Aigara damaged and aborted, and Tone aborted - clearing the zone of axis units.

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/27/2017 1:04:45 AM)

Arabian Sea rnd 2 rolls of 5/4 resulted in nc
Red Sea rolls of 6/10 resulted in nc
Azanian Sea rolls of 7/8 resulted in nc
Mosambique Channel rolls of 10/6 resulted in nc

You have reaction possibilities in the Hawaiian Islands?

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ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/27/2017 1:05:54 AM)

MA43 i8 naval searches
In the BoB, the Italian NAV initiated. No additional axis air reacted out.
You have reaction possibilities.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/27/2017 1:50:59 AM)

Hawaiian Islands. P-35 FTR to 0-box. Dauntless to highest box possible (1 believe).

Bay of Biscay. No additional reactions.

The Solomons. Please send the two aborted USN BB's back to Pearl.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/27/2017 2:14:39 AM)

Hawaii Island rolls of 7/3 result in nc
Bay of Biscay rolls of 9/10 result in nc

Below is the Bay of Bengal situation. You can search if you wish.

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rkr1958 -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/27/2017 2:22:55 AM)

Bay of Bengal. No search.




ashkpa -> RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR (9/27/2017 8:11:52 PM)

MA43 i8 Axis
Lost my ground support images. The Stuka near Mannerheim struck at the RU INF nearby, but missed. The ART near Moscow struck Zhukov's hex and missed.

There are 3 land attacks. Near Leningrad and 2 in the south shown in the image below. You have a fighter that could fly as a bomber and support one of them. Will you?

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