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kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/13/2017 6:59:12 AM)

Revised list of unit types for French purchase options.

Napoleonic unit strength

Land units

Garrison = Game scale strength 6
Regiment = Game scale strength 7
Brigade = Game scale strength 8
Division = Game scale strength 9
Corps = Game scale strength 10
Engineers,Sappers,Skirmishers = Game scale strength 5
All Cavalry units = Game scale strength 7
All Artillery units = Game scale strength 5


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kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/13/2017 7:30:10 AM)

French flag graphic hightlighted by red arrow,very kindly supplied by SIPRES! [&o][&o]

The strength 9 unit above the headquarters is actually a Division ignore the xxxx nato for Army, the unit graphics are still to be organized in their new unit order as per the mod IE its a work in progress![:D]


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kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/13/2017 9:24:01 AM)

My first attempt at creating a new Fleet graphic for the mod.[;)]

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kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/13/2017 1:25:17 PM)

I have tweaked the art for the French slightly using a darker blue colour scheme for the Corps & Fleet compared to the lighter blue that comes as standard with the game, I would be interested to hear what anyone thinks of this colour change?[;)]

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sPzAbt653 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/13/2017 1:56:35 PM)

It's a nice colour change, the French flag is a deeper blue than the stock blue, I think.

Fleets look nice [:)]



kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/13/2017 2:05:03 PM)

Thanks for feedback![:)]

The darker blue is better in game than it shows on the screenshot, I'm enjoying getting back into the swing of creating new art,it gives me a break from what needs done, in altering all the scripts that need to be changed,so that the Napoleonic era comes to life in game,there is a huge amount of stuff to do,but I'm getting there daily.[:D]



SIPRES -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/13/2017 4:44:57 PM)

Hello Kirk

Here is some draft counters for France I work on this week
Some HQ + INF + CAV + ENG + ART

Rgds

Christophe



[image]local://upfiles/52197/8EF6902E57F04DD0BB4FFBBCF0404DF0.jpg[/image]



SIPRES -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/13/2017 4:55:16 PM)

And the color palette I was thinking to use for Nations and minors

[image]local://upfiles/52197/09C3CA5B467740168B6AA6687238F1FA.jpg[/image]



kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/13/2017 6:04:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SIPRES

Hello Kirk

Here is some draft counters for France I work on this week
Some HQ + INF + CAV + ENG + ART

Rgds

Christophe



[image]local://upfiles/52197/8EF6902E57F04DD0BB4FFBBCF0404DF0.jpg[/image]


Hi Christophe Excellent artwork I like![&o]



kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/13/2017 6:06:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SIPRES

And the color palette I was thinking to use for Nations and minors

[image]local://upfiles/52197/09C3CA5B467740168B6AA6687238F1FA.jpg[/image]



Yes I would agree the colour palette would indeed suit the relevent Nations.[;)]



kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/13/2017 7:24:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kirk23

I have tweaked the art for the French slightly using a darker blue colour scheme for the Corps & Fleet compared to the lighter blue that comes as standard with the game, I would be interested to hear what anyone thinks of this colour change?[;)]

[image]local://upfiles/36378/F0CE66B0F0084230B3E3B3FF885B2FA4.jpg[/image]


I have done another version of the French Fleet unit this time its in colour, and I have both designs side by side for demo purpose only.

[image]local://upfiles/36378/B7CF88EBD8A24459B08B9159BD113BE9.jpg[/image]



kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/14/2017 11:47:16 AM)

I have just been altering the map to include the Kingdom of Naples and I need some historical input from anyone regarding which side did the Kingdom of Naples favour France as the Axis or Great Britain as the Allies,or where they Neutral as of the start of the scenario 1803?[&:]

[image]local://upfiles/36378/7A770A8842B9407DA872DC58D870FEE7.jpg[/image]



BillRunacre -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/14/2017 4:41:10 PM)

If I remember correctly, it would have been anti-French in 1803, switching the following year.

Sir John Acton, a French-born English baronet, was Prime Minister of Naples and you might find these of use:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fAVaAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=john+acton+naples+1803&source=bl&ots=CCUYXoK99b&sig=OLhGTufQ-ZHt5DU9mNoIaCWpHbE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkkeSmlMLRAhWoL8AKHRDQAjMQ6AEIMjAF#v=onepage&q=john%20acton%20naples%201803&f=false

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=SxPPlDb_PS0C&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=john+acton+naples&source=bl&ots=kQ7f__rU4M&sig=-3kIUTyqRxY-Z7NLoA0QBNZPlVk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid3L_3lMLRAhWmLsAKHVBkCmg4ChDoAQguMAQ#v=snippet&q=Acton&f=false



BillRunacre -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/14/2017 4:48:43 PM)

Another of the Acton family, Harold Acton, wrote The Bourbons of Naples (1734-1825) that you might find it useful if you can get hold of a copy.




kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/14/2017 4:56:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Runacre

If I remember correctly, it would have been anti-French in 1803, switching the following year.

Sir John Acton, a French-born English baronet, was Prime Minister of Naples and you might find these of use:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fAVaAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=john+acton+naples+1803&source=bl&ots=CCUYXoK99b&sig=OLhGTufQ-ZHt5DU9mNoIaCWpHbE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkkeSmlMLRAhWoL8AKHRDQAjMQ6AEIMjAF#v=onepage&q=john%20acton%20naples%201803&f=false

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=SxPPlDb_PS0C&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=john+acton+naples&source=bl&ots=kQ7f__rU4M&sig=-3kIUTyqRxY-Z7NLoA0QBNZPlVk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid3L_3lMLRAhWmLsAKHVBkCmg4ChDoAQguMAQ#v=snippet&q=Acton&f=false



Thank you Bill I will check these out.[&o]



kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/14/2017 5:09:18 PM)

I have added more to the research options again, Medical Services can now be researched, this improves all unit morale by 5%.

Unit morale used to be increased by Researching Infantry Warfare etc, Infantry Warfare,Cavalry Warfare,Artillery Warfare,Siege Warfare and Naval Warfare all now give a 5% Loss Evasion bonus while defending![;)]

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kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/14/2017 9:52:43 PM)

Infantry Warfare Research now gives a bonus loss evasion both in attack and defence.

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SIPRES -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/16/2017 6:05:53 AM)

Hello Kirk,

Here is a list of Majors and Minors involved in Napoleonic Wars
Its not 100% accurate, but I think enough for a good start.
Hope it helps

Christophe

MAJOR POWERS CAPITAL CITY Comment
Great Britain LONDON england and wales only
France PARIS include belgium??
Russia MOSCOW move to St Petersburg 1812
Prussia BERLIN Loose Poland 1807
SPAIN MADRID PRO FRENCH then PRO BRITISH
AUSTRIA VIENNA PRO ALLIED
TURKEY CONSTANTINOPLE PRO FRENCH or PRO ALLIED?
USA WASHINGTON

MINOR POWERS CAPITAL CITY Comment
CANADA Upper CANADA ?? PRO British
Lower CANADA ?? PRO British
ITALY NORTH ITALY MILANO Torino, Genoa part of French EMPIRE
PAPACY ROMA Annexed by French in 1808?
Naples NAPOLI 2 sicilies kingdom then Kingdom of Naples 1806
SICILY PALERMO? British Allied
SARDINIA CAGLIARI Without Toscany?
BENELUX BELGIUM PARIS?? Part of French empire
Holland AMSTERDAM Batavian Republic ,then Kingdom of Holland 1810
GERMANY BADE Karlsruhe French allied Rhine confederacy
BAVARIA MUNCHEN French allied Rhine confederacy
Wurttemburg Stuttgart French allied Rhine confederacy
SWISS Zurich French allied
BERG Dusseldorf French allied Rhine confederacy
Nassau Weilburg French allied Rhine confederacy
HANOVER Hanover British then French occupied (1801?)
Westphalia CASSEL HESSE CASSEL + HANOVER + BRUNSWICK created in 1807
BRUNSWICK BRUNSWICK Join KGL troops after 1807
Hesse-Darmstadt DARMSTADT French allied Rhine confederacy
HESSE CASSEL CASSEL Prussia then dismantle (Whesphalia)
SAXONY DRESDEN Prussia then French allied Rhine confederacy
SAXONY DUCHIES ?? Prussia satellite
Wurzburg Wurzburg Austria Sattelite?
MECKLENBURG Schwerin French allied Rhine confederacy
HANSEATIC CITIES ?? French allied Rhine confederacy
Warsaw Duchy Warsaw Created after Prussia Defeat 1807
Galicia LEMBERG AUSTRIA then partition to POLAND 1809
Lituania Vilno Russia then Poland
SCANDIC SWEDEN STOCKHOLM Include Swedish Pomeramia (Stralsund)? PRO ALLIED
FINLAND Helsingfors Under Sweden control then Russia invasion
DENMARK Copenhagen PRO FRENCH
NORWAY Christiana Under Denmark control then Sweden invasion
OTHER Portugal LISBOA Pro British
SCOTLAND Edinburgh Pro British
IRELAND DUBLIN Pro British
BALKAN ILLYRIA LAYBACH contain Istria Dalmatia free city of Ragusa (Austria then french)
SERBIA BELGRADE Under Ottoman control
BOSNIA SARAJEVO Under Ottoman control
GREECE ATHENS Under Ottoman control
DALMATIA SPLIT Austria control
MOLDAVIA CHISINAU Under Ottoman or Russia control?
WALLACHIA BUCHAREST Under Ottoman control
RUMELIA Monastir ?? Under Ottoman control
BULGARIA SOFIA Under Ottoman control
ALBANIA TIRANA Under Ottoman control
AFRICA EGYPT CAIRO Under Ottoman control
MORROCO and FEZ empire FEZ Independant (neutral)
ALGERIA Regency ALGIER Under Ottoman control
TUNISIA Regency TUNIS Under Ottoman control
LYBIA/CYRENAICA TRIPOLI Under Ottoman control
SYRIA DAMAS Under Ottoman control
MALTA?? VALETTA French or British??
PERSIA Teheran Under Ottoman control
CYPRUS NICOSIA Under Ottoman control
CRETE CANDIA Under Ottoman control
SIDON?? ACRE?? Under Ottoman control
PALESTINE JERUSALEM Under Ottoman control




kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/16/2017 11:00:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SIPRES

Hello Kirk,

Here is a list of Majors and Minors involved in Napoleonic Wars
Its not 100% accurate, but I think enough for a good start.
Hope it helps

Christophe

MAJOR POWERS CAPITAL CITY Comment
Great Britain LONDON england and wales only
France PARIS include belgium??
Russia MOSCOW move to St Petersburg 1812
Prussia BERLIN Loose Poland 1807
SPAIN MADRID PRO FRENCH then PRO BRITISH
AUSTRIA VIENNA PRO ALLIED
TURKEY CONSTANTINOPLE PRO FRENCH or PRO ALLIED?
USA WASHINGTON

MINOR POWERS CAPITAL CITY Comment
CANADA Upper CANADA ?? PRO British
Lower CANADA ?? PRO British
ITALY NORTH ITALY MILANO Torino, Genoa part of French EMPIRE
PAPACY ROMA Annexed by French in 1808?
Naples NAPOLI 2 sicilies kingdom then Kingdom of Naples 1806
SICILY PALERMO? British Allied
SARDINIA CAGLIARI Without Toscany?
BENELUX BELGIUM PARIS?? Part of French empire
Holland AMSTERDAM Batavian Republic ,then Kingdom of Holland 1810
GERMANY BADE Karlsruhe French allied Rhine confederacy
BAVARIA MUNCHEN French allied Rhine confederacy
Wurttemburg Stuttgart French allied Rhine confederacy
SWISS Zurich French allied
BERG Dusseldorf French allied Rhine confederacy
Nassau Weilburg French allied Rhine confederacy
HANOVER Hanover British then French occupied (1801?)
Westphalia CASSEL HESSE CASSEL + HANOVER + BRUNSWICK created in 1807
BRUNSWICK BRUNSWICK Join KGL troops after 1807
Hesse-Darmstadt DARMSTADT French allied Rhine confederacy
HESSE CASSEL CASSEL Prussia then dismantle (Whesphalia)
SAXONY DRESDEN Prussia then French allied Rhine confederacy
SAXONY DUCHIES ?? Prussia satellite
Wurzburg Wurzburg Austria Sattelite?
MECKLENBURG Schwerin French allied Rhine confederacy
HANSEATIC CITIES ?? French allied Rhine confederacy
Warsaw Duchy Warsaw Created after Prussia Defeat 1807
Galicia LEMBERG AUSTRIA then partition to POLAND 1809
Lituania Vilno Russia then Poland
SCANDIC SWEDEN STOCKHOLM Include Swedish Pomeramia (Stralsund)? PRO ALLIED
FINLAND Helsingfors Under Sweden control then Russia invasion
DENMARK Copenhagen PRO FRENCH
NORWAY Christiana Under Denmark control then Sweden invasion
OTHER Portugal LISBOA Pro British
SCOTLAND Edinburgh Pro British
IRELAND DUBLIN Pro British
BALKAN ILLYRIA LAYBACH contain Istria Dalmatia free city of Ragusa (Austria then french)
SERBIA BELGRADE Under Ottoman control
BOSNIA SARAJEVO Under Ottoman control
GREECE ATHENS Under Ottoman control
DALMATIA SPLIT Austria control
MOLDAVIA CHISINAU Under Ottoman or Russia control?
WALLACHIA BUCHAREST Under Ottoman control
RUMELIA Monastir ?? Under Ottoman control
BULGARIA SOFIA Under Ottoman control
ALBANIA TIRANA Under Ottoman control
AFRICA EGYPT CAIRO Under Ottoman control
MORROCO and FEZ empire FEZ Independant (neutral)
ALGERIA Regency ALGIER Under Ottoman control
TUNISIA Regency TUNIS Under Ottoman control
LYBIA/CYRENAICA TRIPOLI Under Ottoman control
SYRIA DAMAS Under Ottoman control
MALTA?? VALETTA French or British??
PERSIA Teheran Under Ottoman control
CYPRUS NICOSIA Under Ottoman control
CRETE CANDIA Under Ottoman control
SIDON?? ACRE?? Under Ottoman control
PALESTINE JERUSALEM Under Ottoman control




Many thanks for this info Christophe its very much appreciated cheers![&o]



SIPRES -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/17/2017 8:19:03 PM)

Some different Napoleonic counter style with Experience display enhanced (I mean I do believe clearer......)

[image]local://upfiles/52197/B3A823DAC4FA4E6E8E7AC66BB29A45BE.jpg[/image]



kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/17/2017 8:34:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SIPRES

Some different Napoleonic counter style with Experience display enhanced (I mean I do believe clearer......)

[image]local://upfiles/52197/B3A823DAC4FA4E6E8E7AC66BB29A45BE.jpg[/image]


I like the wide white banding for these units its very effective and clear.[;)]



Hairog -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/18/2017 12:24:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kirk23
I have just been altering the map to include the Kingdom of Napl
es and I need some historical input from anyone regarding which side did the Kingdom of Naples favour France as the Axis or Great Britain as the Allies,or where they Neutral as of the start of the scenario 1803?[&:]

[image]local://upfiles/36378/7A770A8842B9407DA872DC58D870FEE7.jpg[/image]


I like the original counters better myself. They are more 3D and have some depth to them. I love the colored ship counter. Very cool mod.



Hairog -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/18/2017 12:30:18 PM)

Tried to delete this. It won't let me.



TheBattlefield -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/18/2017 1:07:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SIPRES

Some different Napoleonic counter style with Experience display enhanced (I mean I do believe clearer......)

[image]local://upfiles/52197/B3A823DAC4FA4E6E8E7AC66BB29A45BE.jpg[/image]

Brilliant! [&o]



TheBattlefield -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/18/2017 1:12:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SIPRES

And the color palette I was thinking to use for Nations and minors

[image]local://upfiles/52197/09C3CA5B467740168B6AA6687238F1FA.jpg[/image]

Prussia should be black, right?[8D]



kirk23 -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/18/2017 2:37:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheBattlefield


quote:

ORIGINAL: SIPRES

And the color palette I was thinking to use for Nations and minors

[image]local://upfiles/52197/09C3CA5B467740168B6AA6687238F1FA.jpg[/image]

Prussia should be black, right?[8D]


I have just checked and Prussia should be Dark Navy Blue or Black uniforms as off 1806 or when they joined the Allies.[;)]



SIPRES -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/18/2017 2:47:25 PM)

Anything is possible as I use layers
I simply did choose grey to be same as AH war and peace.

On other hand I would consider Prussian Blue. (but maybe already too many "blues" with French and USA).
The Black uniforms were used only by the Brunswickers, wich were a really tiny part of Prussia Army whatever the period (1806-1813-1815)



SIPRES -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/18/2017 2:59:18 PM)

here is prussian line INF (I think 1813-1815) on left then Brunswicker on the right

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daon -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/18/2017 4:25:08 PM)

yes ,Prussians are in "dark" blue , except jaeger

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daon -> RE: The Rise and Fall Of An Empire! (1/18/2017 4:32:45 PM)

and in 1806 , blue too



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