RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)

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ny59giants -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (10/31/2017 12:26:42 PM)
So, where are NoPac, CenPac, SoPac, and SWPac HQs?? What are they prepping for? You should have enough non-American HQs to pair then up, IMO.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (10/31/2017 12:40:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants So, where are NoPac, CenPac, SoPac, and SWPac HQs?? What are they prepping for? You should have enough non-American HQs to pair then up, IMO. None of those are on map yet!! [:D] Only Pacific Fleet Command. So I've got ABDA which is a small 45 squad Command HQ prepping for Palembang, and I've changed out the leader but the experience level is quite low. I have another decently led Army HQ for the Dutch in Batavia that I am planning to shift to Oosthaven and up the rail to Prabemolih to also help out. Neither will be fully prepped for a while, but could still help. [image]local://upfiles/37283/9CD27BEC78524C418C4B538436499CEA.jpg[/image]

Lokasenna -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (10/31/2017 8:13:35 PM)
My feelings, summarized: [X(][sm=crazy.gif][sm=dizzy.gif] [sm=vomit-smiley-020.gif]

Macclan5 -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (10/31/2017 8:41:26 PM)
Obvert is being a little humble here. This Allied AAR has been the 'meanest knife fight' AAR I have ever followed. Both opponents have resorted to some incredible non traditional attacks since Dec 1941. US Carriers off Java in January. In depth defense in the PI and Japan skirting the PI till latter. A Japanese move (mistakenly or not) into Russia. Mis direction - lies - and dirty punching... in a fun sort of way evidently. [8D] However O has completed 3 things I have not seen before. 1) The non traditional use of Carriers and SBD early put the KB on a defensive footing - amazing. 2) Oil has been bombed more effectively than I have ever seen this early - amazing therefore: 3) The defense of Singers at great risk of assets / combined with the activation of Russia has dealt Japan a very bad hand in terms of durability as Allied assets just star pouring in soon Amazing

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 11:08:05 AM)
Palembang Here's a shot of the Java and lower Sumatra area and the state of Palembang. Looks like the situation is good, and as you can see more am-hubs are arriving from OZ and India to Oosthaven and Benkolen. Three more brigades here, which is good since it looks like he's flying in the 4th division to Sumatra, split with one regiment coming into Djambi and two others at Palembang. More grist for the mill!! [;)] It's an odd look at the port, with AS across the screen shown, but only 1 ship recorded in port. Our recon Buffs are repairing, so the info is suspect until we get real pics again. We are up to 55k supply in Singers. Only a week left of the invasion bonus. No sign of more landing TFs moving yet. I've got improved search from Aussie Hudsons in the area now too. [image]local://upfiles/37283/99DFED7DB1C34D5CB5C3D289F47E89AC.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 11:12:38 AM)
March 21, 1942 Our subs are really having an impact on the game now. I'm not sure if they're gaining in experience, if there are becoming fewer escorts for the IJN, or if his ASW air is stretched thin. Whatever the cause, this turn starts with a few bangs. [:)] First DD Takaze is hit with a fish from Dutch sub KVII near Ketapang. This little DD should sink from that, and there were sinking sounds throughout the turn, but not directly after this attack. As you can see from the many sightings below, subs are also keeping good track of IJN ship movement now. He's still adding DDs to the mix here, so in a few turns all hell may break loose when our cruisers are all ready and the dings knocked out at Singers. CA Chester is back after a long repair, and is another ship with great night experience now. Next up Pike puts a DD into Minegumo. This is at Singkawang, so the ship will most likely survive. We may have to visit the port there soon though! The S-37 misses Yugumo near Muntok. These are top notch IJN DDs, so getting a few of them in the next week would be great. I usually reserve Yugumos for the KB. Soviet subs even get into the action, with SS ShCh-120 sinking xAP Mizuho Maru with two hits off of Formosa. The USN CAs bombard Toboali which has a level 3 field. I want to make sure this isn't used to support Palembang. I'll deal with Level 1 Muntok soon. Weather seems to have socked in all of our bombers going for Palembang, but a sweep of P-39Ds does fly. Clear sky over the base, and they find a LR CAP of A6M2 there. It's the Kaga and Aka fighter groups, and these must not have the pilots they used to. The USAAF jocks got 4 kills and 6 destroyed zeros on the day! Got our quote of 5/day destroyed zeros! According to Allied records, that's 500+ destroyed for the campaign!! In 3 1/2 months! [X(][&o] The 4Es do get another 12 hits onto the oil at Djambi. It's tough going here with some good AA in base, but have to keep at it for the next few days. Then switching to Palembang. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 21, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Ketapang at 55,92 Japanese Ships DD Yakaze, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage Allied Ships SS KVII DD Yakaze is sighted by SS KVII SS KVII launches 2 torpedoes at DD Yakaze -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Singkawang at 56,88 Japanese Ships DD Oite DD Minegumo DD Namikaze Allied Ships SS S-35 SS S-35 is sighted by escort S-35 bottoming out .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Singkawang at 56,88 Japanese Ships DD Minegumo, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage DD Namikaze Allied Ships SS Pike SS Pike launches 4 torpedoes at DD Minegumo Pike bottoming out .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Muntok at 49,89 Japanese Ships DD Yugumo DD Ayanami Allied Ships SS S-37 SS S-37 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Yugumo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Hengchun at 84,67 Japanese Ships xAP Mizuho Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage PB Fuji Maru #3 Allied Ships SS ShCh-120, hits 1 SS ShCh-120 launches 4 torpedoes at xAP Mizuho Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Toboali at 50,93 Allied Ships CA Chicago CA Portland Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 8 Port hits 10 Port supply hits 4 SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Chicago CA Chicago firing at Toboali -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Muntok at 49,89 Japanese Ships DD Ayanami Allied Ships SS S-37 SS S-37 is sighted by escort DD Ayanami fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Ayanami fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Ayanami fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Ayanami fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Ayanami fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Ketapang at 55,96 Japanese Ships DD Yanagi Allied Ships SS S-18 DD Yanagi is sighted by SS S-18 SS S-18 launches 2 torpedoes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Sampit at 55,97 Japanese Ships DD Yanagi Allied Ships SS O23 DD Yanagi is sighted by SS O23 SS O23 launches 4 torpedoes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 6 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 19 P-40E Warhawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 17 x P-39D Airacobra sweeping at 15000 feet * -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Djambi , at 48,88 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Allied aircraft B-17D Fortress x 4 B-17E Fortress x 11 Allied aircraft losses B-17D Fortress: 3 damaged B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged Oil hits 5 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Djambi , at 48,88 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 9 LB-30 Liberator x 6 Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak LB-30 Liberator: 2 damaged Oil hits 7 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/5F04EFBE25EA4402B06126C220C1CCE8.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 11:22:51 AM)
March 21, 1942 Ok. The Soviets have a dilemma. The first big challenge of the ground war that could have extended repercussions. Three tank brigades reacted into Tsitsahar. The border looks green but I don't know if my big army moving through will shock or not. It could be disaster, but I have to go for it. Otherwise the entire theatre could turn. So the plan is to cross with the entire army but have the remaining tank units, about 550AV, turn to the North to cross and open the hex side on the Northern road. Then I could extricate the army and march quickly to the Heiho/Yenki pocket and crush remaining defences there before hunkering down for the counter offensive. Reserves are mobilising into strat mode in the South, just in case it all goes horribly. In the swamps of the Mishan area the large Soviet army tries a DA and fails miserably. Big losses here. Yuck. Recon said only 16k troops in the hex, so I thought a division had moved out. No such luck. There is still a good opportunity here though, as the tanks can speed around once the IJA moves out. He can't have many reserves to add to this now so maybe I can make an end run flanking manoeuvre and still get this edge chopped off the Japanese position, which would then require him to really pay attention and send some extras this way. Judging by our first bombardment Heiho has significant forts. Yikes. This will be dealt with indirectly. Luckily a division is already marching to begin isolating the base, and if we can pull off the move at Tsitsahar, then we will approach this base from the South as well. This is easily the worst day of the Soviet portion of the war, but I still feel optimistic here. The replacements are good for all but the tanks, and all of these campaigns have resulted in significant IJA losses that will take them some time to recover from. Also, I am thinking several of the divisions at Tsitsahar begin in China, so some opportunities could open up over there once some big Corps have filled out in the NW deserts. I see the Peiking area being very vulnerable for troops walking in from the NW. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 21, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Tsitsihar (109,36) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1974 troops, 18 guns, 234 vehicles, Assault Value = 398 Defending force 64158 troops, 659 guns, 515 vehicles, Assault Value = 1827 Allied ground losses: 15 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 17 (5 destroyed, 12 disabled) Assaulting units: 75th Tank Brigade 77th Tank Brigade 3rd Amurskaya Tank Brigade Defending units: 12th Division 20th/C Division 9th Manchukuo Inf Brigade 68th Division 28th Division 20th/A Division 14th/B Division 1st Raiding Regiment 15th Tank Regiment 20th/B Division 10th Tank Regiment 13th Tank Regiment 14th/A Division 5th Tank Regiment 14th/C Division 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 30th Fld AA Gun Co 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 53rd JAAF AF Bn 43rd Ind.AA Gun Co 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 19th Field AA Machinecannon Company 99th JAAF AF Bn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Heiho (113,33) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 35155 troops, 625 guns, 184 vehicles, Assault Value = 1054 Defending force 22900 troops, 274 guns, 214 vehicles, Assault Value = 587 Japanese ground losses: 37 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled) Allied ground losses: 383 casualties reported Squads: 17 destroyed, 19 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 15 (2 destroyed, 13 disabled) Vehicles lost 15 (6 destroyed, 9 disabled) Assaulting units: 3rd Rifle Division 12th Rifle Division 94th Rifle Division 550th BM Howitzer Regiment 147th Howitzer Regiment 1129th Hvy Howitzer Regiment 411th Howitzer Regiment 42nd Cannon Regiment 1120th Cannon Regiment 114th Hvy Howitzer Regiment 1140th Cannon Regiment 192nd OM Gun Battalion Defending units: 1st Division 8th Garrison Unit 9th Tank Regiment 6th Border Defense Fortress 3rd Garrison Unit 12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment 7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 52nd Field AA Battalion 20th Fld AA Machinecannon Company -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 114,41 (near Mishan) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 41498 troops, 640 guns, 1732 vehicles, Assault Value = 1668 Defending force 27569 troops, 288 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 772 Allied adjusted assault: 727 Japanese adjusted defense: 1303 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1229 casualties reported Squads: 10 destroyed, 93 disabled 1229 casualties reported Squads: 10 destroyed, 93 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Guns lost 27 (5 destroyed, 22 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2505 casualties reported Squads: 169 destroyed, 106 disabled Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 37 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled Guns lost 39 (15 destroyed, 24 disabled) Vehicles lost 73 (42 destroyed, 31 disabled) Assaulting units: 44th NKVD Regiment 35th Rifle Division 8th Cavalry Division 66th Rifle Division 3rd Ussurii Tank Brigade 2nd Ussurii Tank Brigade 6th Ussurii Tank Brigade 4th Ussurii Tank Brigade 5th Ussurii Tank Brigade 4th/152nd PVO AA Battalion 177th Howitzer Regiment 1133rd Howitzer Regiment 362nd/367th OM Gun Battalion 1139th Cannon Regiment 1121st Cannon Regiment 215th Cannon Brigade 155th PVO AA Battalion Defending units: 29th Division 24th/B Division 24th/A Division 24th/C Division 4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 53rd Field AA Battalion -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/D3274EF7444F49DE88B3C7C695F4F617.jpg[/image]

paullus99 -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 11:29:07 AM)
The Red Army is strong, but still very brittle. You've certainly been running them ragged & the Japanese forces have good ground to stand on. Your inherent advantage in armor should allow you to continue to move around his defensive positions, but the "Happy Days" may soon be coming to an end.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 12:50:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: paullus99 The Red Army is strong, but still very brittle. You've certainly been running them ragged & the Japanese forces have good ground to stand on. Your inherent advantage in armor should allow you to continue to move around his defensive positions, but the "Happy Days" may soon be coming to an end. I had my text erased twice by wifi issues, so here is a pic copy. The goals so far have been as follows: [image]local://upfiles/37283/72180233A1F143B6BCC79BB2AAAAFF75.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 2:11:08 PM)
March 21, 1942 Elsewhere we've been bombing in China a bit, hitting Hankow. No fighters have interdicted so far. Got a few LB and RC on the ground there. I'll start trying to hit light industry soon as well. In fact I'm considering moving a large portion of the Soviet air force to China soon. They are non-restricted, and could easily move here and fly supported by supply coming in from the Soviet off map rail link. Another attack at Lashio most hits the Chinese and the BFF brigade. The AV of the IJA units is steadily dropping though, which is good. The Japanese are also facing some adversity at Wenchow. The IJA divisions, three of them, now have a combined AV somewhere around 550 after todays DA. Didn't go well for them. The Chinese Corps here is just gaining experience and getting tougher, and supply is holding in spit of regular daily bombing runs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 21, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Lashio (62,46) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 23360 troops, 211 guns, 58 vehicles, Assault Value = 547 Defending force 16612 troops, 141 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 300 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0 Japanese adjusted assault: 298 Allied adjusted defense: 694 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 618 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 29 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Allied ground losses: 369 casualties reported Squads: 15 destroyed, 14 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Assaulting units: Imperial Guards Division 33rd Division 15th Army 29th Field AA Machinecannon Company Defending units: 5th Chinese Corps BFF Brigade 1st Burma Div /1 8th New Chinese Corps /1 13th Burma Rifles Battalion 102nd RAF Base Force Burma Corps 100th RAF Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 31387 troops, 318 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 659 Defending force 19212 troops, 79 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 359 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0 Japanese adjusted assault: 778 Allied adjusted defense: 472 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 3120 casualties reported Squads: 9 destroyed, 168 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled Guns lost 29 (1 destroyed, 28 disabled) Allied ground losses: 541 casualties reported Squads: 18 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Guns lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled) Assaulting units: 60th Division 22nd Division 32nd Division 4th Mortar Battalion Defending units: 88th Chinese Corps 100th Chinese Corps 3rd War Area 25th Group Army 14th Chinese Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft A-29A Hudson x 4 DB-3M x 4 Hudson IIIa x 12 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-15-II Babs: 1 destroyed on ground No Allied losses Airbase hits 4 Runway hits 11 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x DB-3M bombing from 12000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 100 kg GP Bomb --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 2:32:27 PM)
March 21, 1942 At Djambi and at Palembang the bombardments revealed that we're facing pieces of the 4th Division. Was this the noe that was shattered in the Singapore crossing? I'll have to check. If that is the case, it might be reduced in experience. Still, I need 4x AV at Palembang to have a chance and have no idea what his forts are there. My troops are of highly variable experience. The Aussies are good, around 65-70, but one still has militia squads. The Indian division is at 48 exp. One Indian brigade is at only 35 exp. I do have some good tanks moving in though, with a decent Indian brigade and the USMC regiment. I'll get three brigades to Djambi first and take that base, then move on Palembang, but I want to keep port highly damaged, the fields closed and lots of LR CAP over the base from Prabemolih to make sure and reduce the number of troops potentially flying in. I think this must be half of the total engineering units on the map for the Japanese right now in Palembang. [:D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 21, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Djambi (48,88) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 3625 troops, 75 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 134 Defending force 4758 troops, 55 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 58 Assaulting units: 21st Australian Brigade Defending units: 4th/B Division 4th/A Div /1 36th Field AA Battalion 35th Field AA Battalion 35th JAAF AF Bn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Palembang (48,91) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 7585 troops, 120 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 412 Defending force 13298 troops, 170 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 235 Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 13th Australian Brigade 25th Australian Brigade 10th LH Cav Regiment 255th Armoured Brigade Defending units: Yokosuka 4th SNLF 4th/B Div /1 15th Ind Engineer Regiment 23rd Ind Engineer Regiment 4th/A Div /2 4th Ind Engineer Regiment 4th/C Division Sasebo 8th SNLF /1 31st Field AA Battalion 9th JAAF AF Coy 33rd Field Const Co 7th Field Construction Battalion 2nd Ship Engineer Regiment 26th Fld AA Gun Co 34th Field AA Battalion 102nd Ship Eng Coy 43rd Const Co 34th Field Const Co 15th Const Co 302nd Ship Eng Coy 47th Const Co 202nd Ship Eng Coy 3rd Air Division 33rd JAAF AF Coy --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lokasenna -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 2:44:17 PM)
Tsitsihar is clear terrain, correct? Good for your tanks normally, however he has a ton of artillery there... your shocking troops (and probably the tanks already there) will have 0 forts. He should have at least 2... that could be bloody. I probably would've been inclined to let him shock the tanks out and replace them (they would retreat NW to the rest of your stack), and go around. I wouldn't feel the need to rush anything.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 2:54:33 PM)
IJN DD Losses I wanted to count these up since it looks like they've taken a major hit lately. He is still using them aggressively, so maybe doesn't think there is a DD shortage yet. It looks like the IJN has lost 65 confirmed DD lost!! [X(] That is a LOT considering the starting total is 113 and Jaapn only built another 63 during the war. Of course the player here can get a few more through acceleration, still, this seems to me critical already. Totalling this up (and I haven't looked to see if all recent sinking are listed) means I will be even moe aggressive to engage roving Japanese destroyers in the DEI. Lowpe likes to use them in small TFs, and that makes them even more vulnerable to being outgunned, isolated and picked off by subs. [image]local://upfiles/37283/A99922BD8B3D4E24AD067F6BE11105F0.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 2:56:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna Tsitsihar is clear terrain, correct? Good for your tanks normally, however he has a ton of artillery there... your shocking troops (and probably the tanks already there) will have 0 forts. He should have at least 2... that could be bloody. I probably would've been inclined to let him shock the tanks out and replace them (they would retreat NW to the rest of your stack), and go around. I wouldn't feel the need to rush anything. Ahh, yes, probably right. I'm banking on the fact that I know only a few of these troops have been here for a while, and some may still be coming out of strat mode. Plus two of the divisions are shattered and low morale. I thought long and hard and decided to do it. It may be a mistake in the end, but hopefully just a speed bump and it could force a further difficulty for the IJA.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 3:01:50 PM)
IJN DMS losses Some of the best secondary escorts for the IJN early are the DMS ships. These also are invaluable in sweeping protected bases. They are well armed and can duke it out a bit more than the AM/AMc types. This is a lot to have been sunk early in my thinking too. [image]local://upfiles/37283/3B1F44FD2B7E42E88C749A1D6A338D9F.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 3:04:55 PM)
IJN Cruiser Losses The cruiser losses ar starting to build up. I've got one more on the hook if I can track down Myoko. She could be so far gone it won't matter, as it's a long way to repair yards from Borneo. [image]local://upfiles/37283/798A26B23C3A4C80AC5ABA1BC8960A2E.jpg[/image]

ny59giants -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 3:16:04 PM)
Ouch on all those IJN DDs lost. [X(] I would safely say that KB has gone from around 8 DDs per TF to 4 to 6, at most. What is he going to have left when Fletchers start coming out in Sept?? Its been bloody so far, but '43 could be even worse when your dud rate goes down.

BBfanboy -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 5:20:39 PM)
quote: obvert: ... more am-hubs are arriving ... quote: obvert: ... Pike puts a DD into Minegumo... You been getting into the scotch again while posting, obvert? [:D]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 5:26:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Ouch on all those IJN DDs lost. [X(] I would safely say that KB has gone from around 8 DDs per TF to 4 to 6, at most. What is he going to have left when Fletchers start coming out in Sept?? Its been bloody so far, but '43 could be even worse when your dud rate goes down. We still have some months where the naval battles in the DEI will be very important, so I hope I can take out another 10-15 DDs before the air supremacy of the new airframes begins to control the area. As a Japanese player though I agree, it's dicey to have so few escorts for the major capital ships and KB.

Rio Bravo -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 6:02:31 PM)
Obvert- I have been following Lowpe's and your war. Both of you write well and have excellent AARs. Your war is interesting and I have learned much from both of you. Just wanted to thank you for your AAR. Best Regards, -Terry

anarchyintheuk -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 6:10:30 PM)
It was interesting seeing all of the different weapon systems listed for the dd 'sunk by' shots. I guess it takes a village to kill a navy.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 8:22:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: obvert: ... more am-hubs are arriving ... quote: obvert: ... Pike puts a DD into Minegumo... You been getting into the scotch again while posting, obvert? [:D] Yes!! Always! [:)] Been typing fast and not always catching either my goofs or auto-correct. Wish i could turn that off!

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 8:28:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo Obvert- I have been following Lowpe's and your war. Both of you write well and have excellent AARs. Your war is interesting and I have learned much from both of you. Just wanted to thank you for your AAR. Best Regards, -Terry Thanks Terry. I've been enjoying the game and just getting into the AAR again. It definitely helps to write it all down and get some opinions on what's happening. Glad to hear you're enjoying, it's a pretty odd and interesting game.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/2/2017 9:42:48 PM)
Soviets This is the idea behind what I'm trying to do. The white lines being a border that would be more defensible and shorter than what the Soviets start with. This would also offer some opportunities to strike quickly into the center of the IJA positions should they overstretch, and also a big advantage in inside lines by rail from South to North. The dotted yellow lines are short term tactical goals to make this plan work. [image]local://upfiles/37283/91CBBB92DB924A98A95F5B40036CEB2A.jpg[/image]

Lokasenna -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/3/2017 3:24:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: obvert: ... more am-hubs are arriving ... quote: obvert: ... Pike puts a DD into Minegumo... You been getting into the scotch again while posting, obvert? [:D] Yes!! Always! [:)] Been typing fast and not always catching either my goofs or auto-correct. Wish i could turn that off! Any ship can be a torpedo... once.

BBfanboy -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/3/2017 5:35:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lokasenna quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: obvert: ... more am-hubs are arriving ... quote: obvert: ... Pike puts a DD into Minegumo... You been getting into the scotch again while posting, obvert? [:D] Yes!! Always! [:)] Been typing fast and not always catching either my goofs or auto-correct. Wish i could turn that off! Any ship can be a torpedo... once. [:D] Good one!

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/3/2017 6:59:57 AM)
March 22, 1942 The 22nd started with more of the same, but no hits this time. Still lots of activity in the area between Singkawang nd Palembang. The RN CLs went hunting and had a secondary mission of targeting Pontiniak to try for a few shots on Myoko. Either she left or our guys missed, so no joy there. With all of the stuff running around here they only managed to find an SC and dispatched it easily. One thing learned is that both Mavis and zeros are based at Pontiniak. Looks like a is it from the 4Es is in order. This level 1 base can be closed easily. S-41 finally gets a hit on an xAK near Kuching. In the day phase more LR CAP is caught over Palembang, and 4 A6M2 shot down. I like this pattern. I need to start sweeping the small bases around here too and see if I can catch more. It's been hard to hit Palembang with my 2Es. They're just not scoring enough here. I'll be sending a few bombardments in soon anyway, but it's worrying that I can only get about 12-15 hits on the fields a day sending 50-60 bombers. It looks like he's either loading or dropping something at Palembang from the remaining ships that have been in port. Albacore's flew and knocked out 6 xAK there today. How many more are hiding there? [X(] The Japanese invaded Manado, but only with one SNLF. It might take the base, but if not I might fly some troops back in that were removed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 22, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Pontianak at 55,89 Japanese Ships DD Hatsuharu DD Wakaba DD Hatsushima Allied Ships SS Gar SS Gar launches 4 torpedoes at DD Hatsuharu Gar bottoming out .... DD Wakaba fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Pontianak at 55,89 Japanese Ships DD Namikaze Allied Ships SS S-35, hits 1 SS S-35 is sighted by escort S-35 bottoming out .... DD Namikaze fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Muntok at 50,89 Japanese Ships CL Naka DD Namikaze Allied Ships SS O21 SS O21 launches 4 torpedoes at CL Naka O21 bottoming out .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Pontianak at 56,90, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships SC Ch 19, Shell hits 8, and is sunk Allied Ships CL Emerald CL Dauntless CL Ceres DD Cassin DM Sicard Reduced sighting due to 28% moonlight Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 28% moonlight: 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Singapore at 50,84 Allied Ships BB Resolution BB Ramillies BB Royal Sovereign BB Revenge Japanese ground losses: 467 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Walrus II acting as spotter for BB Resolution BB Resolution firing at 18th Division BB Ramillies firing at 2nd Division BB Royal Sovereign firing at 55th Division BB Revenge firing at 18th Division -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Pontianak at 56,90 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses H6K4 Mavis: 5 damaged A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged Allied Ships CL Ceres CL Dauntless CL Emerald Japanese ground losses: 26 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 8 Port hits 1 CL Ceres firing at Pontianak CL Dauntless firing at Pontianak Walrus II acting as spotter for CL Emerald CL Emerald firing at Pontianak -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Kuching at 60,87 Japanese Ships xAK Meiyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1 PB Konsan Maru Allied Ships SS S-41 SS S-41 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Meiyo Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 4 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 12 P-39D Airacobra x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 1 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 2 DB-7B x 4 B-26 Marauder x 19 P-40E Warhawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-26 Marauder: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 10 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Runway hits 9 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x DB-7B bombing from 10000 feet * Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft Albacore I x 14 Fulmar II x 9 No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAK Natisan Maru, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk xAK Yahiko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Aircraft Attacking: 14 x Albacore I launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 3 Allied aircraft Do-24K-1 x 2 P-40E Warhawk x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Do-24K-1: 1 damaged Japanese Ships xAK Hukusei Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 2 x Do-24K-1 bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 4 x 300 kg SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 1 Allied aircraft Albacore I x 15 Fulmar II x 9 P-39D Airacobra x 2 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Fulmar II: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships xAK Holland Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk xAK Hukusei Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk xAK Seizan Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Syoto Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 15 x Albacore I bombing from 5000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Karenko at 87,65 Japanese Ships xAK Tatutaki Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAK Noto Maru PB Seki Maru #3 Allied Ships SS ShCh-128 Japanese ground losses: 34 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled SS ShCh-128 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Tatutaki Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Manado (75,99) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1132 troops, 4 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 29 Defending force 1892 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 60 Japanese ground losses: 36 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: Manado Mil'ie Cdo Manado RK Cdo /1 Defending units: Sasebo 3rd SNLF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/94E0ACD062CF4F7B8980F6115173C0E9.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/3/2017 7:05:13 AM)
March 22, 1942 So the crossing to Tsitsahar wasn't great, but not a complete disaster either. I could have done this better. Loka is right. I should have attempted to extricate the tanks rather than move in to support them. Anyway, now time to open a hexside and get out of this base quickly. I don't fear attacks here since our AV is still quite close, and we have a lot of arty and tanks plus good AA. I don't have the turn file yet but tanks should have crossed north of the city today and will head into it tomorrow on the grey road, opening that side. Then everything can move out. Nothing happening elsewhere up here. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 22, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Tsitsihar (109,36) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 38021 troops, 724 guns, 1575 vehicles, Assault Value = 1826 Defending force 64428 troops, 659 guns, 519 vehicles, Assault Value = 1858 Allied adjusted assault: 585 Japanese adjusted defense: 1124 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2) Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 1034 casualties reported Squads: 6 destroyed, 57 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 52 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled Guns lost 52 (2 destroyed, 50 disabled) Vehicles lost 101 (19 destroyed, 82 disabled) Allied ground losses: 2649 casualties reported Squads: 52 destroyed, 297 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 62 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 17 disabled Guns lost 113 (6 destroyed, 107 disabled) Vehicles lost 50 (3 destroyed, 47 disabled) Assaulting units: 75th Tank Brigade 77th Tank Brigade 399th Rifle Division 57th Motor Rifle Division 3rd Amurskaya Tank Brigade 36th Motor Rifle Division 3rd Motorized Rifle Regiment 10th/132nd PVO AA Battalion 1141st Cannon Regiment 262nd/264th PVO AA Battalion 624th Cannon Regiment 629th Cannon Regiment 185th Cannon Regiment 150th/387th PVO AA Battalion Defending units: 10th Tank Regiment 1st Raiding Regiment 14th/B Division 12th Division 9th Manchukuo Inf Brigade 28th Division 13th Tank Regiment 14th/A Division 5th Tank Regiment 15th Tank Regiment 68th Division 20th Division 14th/C Division 3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 30th Fld AA Gun Co Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment 19th Field AA Machinecannon Company 2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment 43rd Ind.AA Gun Co 53rd JAAF AF Bn 99th JAAF AF Bn -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/BF5832F14BDD4F63B5E874EBD4B9B508.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/3/2017 10:39:34 AM)
March 22, 1942 Very interesting. The AV at Djambi jumped by 8 from 58 to 66 between the last two turns. He's flying in troops. [:-] Tomorrow there will be an extensive LR CAP here and strikes will hit the field as well as oil. It's level 1 so this shouldn't be too difficult to close. I may also reach out to some nearby fields to see where these are flying from. So many things to smash. [;)] I bet it's Johore Bahru or someplace close to Singers. The 4th is one of the divisions that shocked at Singers, so it must have been rebuilding nearby since then. Can't be too good now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 22, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Djambi (48,88) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 3633 troops, 75 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 135 Defending force 5505 troops, 55 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 66 Assaulting units: 21st Australian Brigade Defending units: 4th/B Division 4th/A Div /1 36th Field AA Battalion 35th Field AA Battalion 35th JAAF AF Bn --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J) (11/3/2017 10:48:37 AM)
March 22, 1942 The defence of Wenchow will go down in Chinese history as a major heroic achievement by the 88th and 100th Corps and the 3rd War Area Hq. This started with three complete IJA divisions pounding away supported by 100+ bombers a day and some sporadic naval bombardments. Currently the base is still being hit daily by virtually all of the bombers in China, but the IJA divisions have been worn to a nub of their previous strength. They're now registering 429 AV!! [X(] There isn't much I can do for this area other than applaud, but I'm looking at bombing targets in China, including airbases bombers are sent from, and trying to identify which are less defended. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 22, 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 465 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 429 Defending force 18835 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 335 Allied ground losses: 20 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 22nd/C Division 60th/B Division 32nd/C Division 22nd/B Division 60th/A Division 32nd/B Division 32nd/A Division 22nd/A Division 60th/C Division 4th Mortar Battalion Defending units: 88th Chinese Corps 100th Chinese Corps 25th Group Army 3rd War Area 14th Chinese Base Force --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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