RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A)

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obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/5/2020 8:42:18 PM)
Finally I get confirmation. Tha invasion of Japan is going in! The CD guns do their work but Detroit, a few escorts and the AMCs embedded take most of the damage and leave the transports to do their work. [:)] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pre-Invasion action off Kumamoto (102,59) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 274 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CL Detroit, Shell hits 14, on fire PG Charleston, Shell hits 24, on fire AMC Prince Robert, Shell hits 4, on fire AMC Prince Henry, Shell hits 5, on fire xAK Gard, Shell hits 3, on fire DE Express xAK Troja, Shell hits 1, heavy fires PG Hindustan PC Jumna PC Haida SC PC-1077 AMC Hector CVE Long Island Japanese ground losses: 236 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Allied ground losses: 91 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled CL Detroit firing at Tachibana-wan Fortress Tachibana-wan Fortress firing at CL Detroit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amphibious Assault at Kumamoto (102,59) TF 223 troops unloading over beach at Kumamoto, 102,59 Allied ground losses: 158 casualties reported Squads: 9 destroyed, 6 disabled Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled) Vehicles lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled) Stuart I Lt Tank lost overboard during unload of 255th Armoured Bde /1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/C39724BEF08C4F12833DC966F0E05CF3.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/5/2020 8:51:36 PM)
April 21, 1943 Kummamoto is under siege! Troops land so incredibly undisturbed it feels too easy. I know the next turn could be quite different. I somehow surprised Lowpe with this move and no meaningful escorted air strikes from LBA or KB arrived, the IJN went the wrong way, and ground troops are minimal. There was no auto-bombardment, but there are only ~8k troop here, so it's very likely the Allies will take the base next turn. The incredibly low disruption and fatigue along with the huge number of almost complete units are astounding for this time of game. These were landed primarily with AP/AK, no AGCs with amphibious Force HQs, no LSD/LST/LCI. I'm shocked. [image]local://upfiles/37283/33ADCDA033F74FDB9A049F676D0F4815.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/5/2020 8:54:53 PM)
Here are the air losses. For the next I'll be hitting several other small fields in the area to try and minimise return strikes. I can see he has a lot of bases with 50 fighters and 60-70 bombers in them. Plus Hiroshima with 250/200. [image]local://upfiles/37283/CF9C82910CD4471ABFE2E72987DBD129.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/5/2020 9:11:32 PM)
The current situation has about 150 ships at Kummamoto, but only about 10 surface combat ships. Those are all one hex to the SW, one hex off of Nagasaki as well. The IJN BBs ended up back at Nagasaki, and will have full ammo, and that is a problem. My BBs are moving to Amami Oshima to replenish but won't be involved until after next turn. I have a lot of cruisers, but they're not in the invasion hex. They'll move there immediately, as will the CVs, but if Lowpe goes all-in with his remaining assets this could be very dicey. It's one thing to land, it's another to hold the landing and be able to replenish and supply it. [image]local://upfiles/37283/5AF750DBE21848449E055C8FA17EC9D3.jpg[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 12:33:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: obvert quote: ORIGINAL: Canoerebel quote: ORIGINAL: obvert This comes next. I beyond wrecked and no planes are set everything to hit Nagasaki. But the end of the day the fields are left. Possibly the most incomprehensible sentence ever penned in an AAR. [:D] Haha! Another great auto-correct moment, which I seem proficient in creating. I don't know if the spell-checker is part of the forum software or part of Win 10, but it does an incredibly stupid thing when you click on the first window to add a word to the dictionary or replace the one you mistyped, it immediately opens another window where the first was and has the cursor set over the "Paste" command. So if your left mouse button is touchy like mine and often clicks twice instead of once, it uses the extra click to paste whatever was on your clipboard into the word you are correcting or adding to your dictionary. Now, because your mouse button is touchy, it is very hard to highlight the unwanted text and delete it! [:@][:@]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 7:34:43 PM)
The next turn began with the continued unloading at Kummamoto. That was a good start. Nothing arrived before more troops and much needed supply landed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Invasion Support action off Kumamoto (102,59) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force 186 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CL Detroit, on fire DD Allen, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage AMC Hector, Shell hits 2 AMC Worcestershire, Shell hits 3, on fire AMC Chitral, Shell hits 4, on fire AMC Monowai, Shell hits 2 PG Hindustan PC Jumna SC PC-1077 PG Charleston, on fire DE Express Japanese ground losses: 194 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Allied ground losses: 94 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Tachibana-wan Fortress firing at DD Allen DD Allen firing at Tachibana-wan Fortress -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But then ... [image]local://upfiles/37283/1A3D5B8304514DB9BFE71CC5C29CFF71.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 7:39:43 PM)
... the IJN arrived in force. This is what I'd feared, and to see them hit this small DD TF first was a bit of a worry, since that meant my other, better TFs hadn't yet arrived. One of these old four-stackers was hit and left with heavy fires, but both managed to get away in the murky thunderstorm night with only 2k visibility. This was an important factor in what came next! [image]local://upfiles/37283/625220CAB0364302BCCBEAD389FF3F78.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 7:49:15 PM)
At this point the USN showed up in force, and I breathed a sigh of relief. Not that this was a good matchup on paper, but these CAs do very well. The battle starts in low visibility and so the forces are 2k away from each other. The IJN gains no advantage from their longer range guns, and suffer from the faster firing, more accurate guns of the USN. In the end Wichita takes a few direct hit and is damaged enough to disband into an escort TF. The Kirishima though is also crippled, and also forms a new TF, which is great for subsequent battles. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kumamoto at 102,59, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Kirishima, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Kuma, Shell hits 1 CL Tama, Shell hits 1 CL Kitakami DD Kazegumo DD Onami DD Ariake DD Uzuki DD Yuzuki DD Matsukaze Allied Ships CA Vincennes, Shell hits 2 CA Wichita, Shell hits 6, on fire DD Conway, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Cony, Shell hits 3 DD Jenkins DD LaVallette, Shell hits 1 DD Saufley, Shell hits 1 Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 92% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 92% moonlight: 2,000 yards Range closes to 23,000 yards... Range closes to 2,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards BB Kirishima engages CA Wichita at 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/BD327C68A4394E1693615ED35B8BC304.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 7:58:02 PM)
The next battle was dicey. The foxes got in with the hens, and there are a lot of very important hens here. Critically, the Allied radar picked them up at 9k and the 1k visibility allowed the task force to suspend operations and begin to get underway. BB Fuso and two DDs do make it in and shoot up most of the already damaged escorts. I have BB Mississippi arriving here with four DDs to add on, but she didn't make it in time for this one. CL Detroit, CVE Long Island and a DD and DE go down, and AMC Chitral is in trouble. That's it though, which is amazing considering the amount of very precious ships that are here. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kumamoto at 102,59, Range 1,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Martlet IV: 4 destroyed F2A-3 Buffalo: 5 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Fuso, Shell hits 5 DD Tachikaze DD Yugao Allied Ships CVE Long Island, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CL Detroit, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Allen, Shell hits 2, and is sunk DE Electra, Shell hits 6, and is sunk DE Express APD Manley APD Little APD Stringham APD Crosby APD Kilty APD Brooks DMS Boggs DMS Dorsey DMS Long DMS Hovey AM Starling AP Harris AP Zeilin APA J. Franklin Bell AP W.A. Holbrook AP Leonard Wood AP Hunter Liggett AP American Legion APA Heywood AP Fuller, heavy damage AP William P. Biddle AP John Penn AP U.S. Grant AP McCawley AP Henderson AP President Jackson AP President Adams AP President Hayes AP President Monroe AP President Polk AP Crescent City APA Arthur Middleton AP George Clymer AK Bellatrix AK Libra AK Fomalhaut AK Betelgeuse AK Alhena AK Titania AK Almaack AK Electra AK Mercury AK Oberon AK Procyon, Shell hits 8 AK Castor SC PC-1077 AM Daring PG Charleston, on fire PC Haida PC Jumna PC Sutlej PG Hindustan AMC Chitral, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching! Allied TF begins to get underway Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 92% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 92% moonlight: 1,000 yards Range closes to 9,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 9,000 yards Range closes to 2,000 yards... Range closes to 1,000 yards... Kinoshita, Mitsuo crosses the 'T' AMC Cornwallis collides with AP William P. Biddle at 102 , 59 DD Yugao engages CVE Long Island at 1,000 yards DD Yugao engages CVE Long Island at 1,000 yards CL Detroit engages DD Yugao at 1,000 yards DD Tachikaze engages CL Detroit at 1,000 yards DD Yugao engages AK Procyon at 1,000 yards Range increases to 2,000 yards AK Oberon collides with AP John Penn at 102 , 59 CVE Long Island sunk by BB Fuso at 2,000 yards DD Allen engages DD Tachikaze at 2,000 yards DD Tachikaze engages DD Allen at 2,000 yards DD Allen sunk by BB Fuso at 2,000 yards BB Fuso engages DE Express at 2,000 yards DE Electra sunk by BB Fuso at 2,000 yards BB Fuso engages AMC Chitral at 2,000 yards BB Fuso engages PG Hindustan at 2,000 yards BB Fuso engages PG Charleston at 2,000 yards BB Fuso engages AMC Chitral at 2,000 yards Allied Task Force Manages to Escape Task forces break off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/1C53D697F425425F83562210E0D57CBA.jpg[/image]

HansBolter -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 8:00:52 PM)
Almost like a walk down memory lane for me. I also got ashore first at Kummomoto. What's different is that my invasion occurred 20 months later than yours, the Russians were still long way from having cleared Korea and I scooped up all of the barrier islands before landing on Kyushu. In may game the AI left Matsuyama (adjacent to Hiroshima) empty so I took it by air landing getting a quick foothold on Honshu. Both Uleungdo and Oki Shoto could possibly be taken by air assault.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 8:01:40 PM)
Unfortunately Fuso and company also run into the detached Wichita, and of course take advantage. A few more task forces arriving after this could mean serious trouble. Where the rest of the Allied surface fleets? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kumamoto at 102,59, Range 2,000 Yards Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SOC-1 Seagull: 3 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Fuso, Shell hits 2 DD Tachikaze DD Yugao Allied Ships CA Wichita, Shell hits 19, and is sunk DD Saufley Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 92% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 92% moonlight: 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/1E8ABEFF8B794ED09494A21AC8BDD166.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 8:15:46 PM)
Here comes the help! This is the best Allied TF, led by Ching Lee, with four modern CLs and seven Fletchers. With a lot of pre-battle radar contacts the Allies open fire when still out of sight range and surprise the IJN. The battle is not decisive but one DD is sunk and damage added to BB Kongo and two CLs. The smoke below tells the story. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kumamoto at 102,59, Range 4,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Kongo, Shell hits 11, on fire CL Kuma, Shell hits 4, on fire CL Tama, Shell hits 1 CL Kitakami, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Kazegumo DD Onami, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Ariake Allied Ships CL Denver, Shell hits 4 CL Montpelier, Shell hits 2 CL Santa Fe CL Columbia, Shell hits 3 DD Fletcher DD Chevalier DD DeHaven, Shell hits 1 DD Eaton DD Stanly, Shell hits 3 DD Strong DD Taylor Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms with 92% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 92% moonlight: 3,000 yards Range closes to 17,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 17,000 yards Range closes to 11,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 8,000 yards Range closes to 4,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 4,000 yards Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 4,000 yards CL Columbia fires at BB Kongo at 4,000 yards CL Santa Fe fires at BB Kongo at 4,000 yards CL Montpelier fires at BB Kongo at 4,000 yards CL Columbia fires at CL Kuma at 4,000 yards DD Taylor launches Torpedoes at BB Kongo at 4,000 yards DD Taylor fires at DD Onami at 4,000 yards DD Stanly launches Torpedoes at DD Onami at 4,000 yards DD Chevalier launches Torpedoes at DD Onami at 4,000 yards DD Fletcher launches Torpedoes at DD Onami at 4,000 yards Range closes to 2,000 yards BB Kongo engages CL Columbia at 2,000 yards DD Onami sunk by DD DeHaven at 2,000 yards Range increases to 6,000 yards BB Kongo engages CL Columbia at 6,000 yards Range increases to 9,000 yards BB Kongo engages CL Columbia at 9,000 yards DD Ariake engages DD Chevalier at 9,000 yards Task forces break off... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/573E65E0647A4ED78C76C8CAD86EE6A9.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 8:22:06 PM)
Next up is a TF led by a Soviet commander in CA Kalinin. He and the older USN CLs engage BB Fuso and get some payback. Fuso still puts up a fight though, and CA Kalinin takes a number of big shells. She limps away on fire and hurting. Fuso eventually takes 37 shells and three torpedoes and looks like her war is over. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kumamoto at 102,59, Range 1,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Fuso, Shell hits 37, Torpedo hits 3, on fire DD Tachikaze DD Yugao Allied Ships CL Concord CL Richmond, Shell hits 3, on fire CL Trenton, Shell hits 3 DD Meredith DD Monssen DD Laffey DD Lansdowne DD Hammann CA Kalinin, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 92% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 92% moonlight: 2,000 yards Range closes to 23,000 yards... Range closes to 17,000 yards... Range closes to 11,000 yards... Range closes to 7,000 yards... Range closes to 5,000 yards... Range closes to 3,000 yards... Range closes to 1,000 yards... Frystak J. crosses the 'T' BB Fuso engages CA Kalinin at 1,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/1911DBE16CCA4033973E4F56CE1A7652.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 9:16:27 PM)
Then the decisive battle. The Kongo TF finds the RN, who also find them with their radar. The Japanese commander crosses the T but the IJN are spent and the British CAs take advantage. All of the IJN are sunk except Kongo which is left reeling with heavy fires and heavy damage. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kumamoto at 102,59, Range 3,000 Yards Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Kongo, Shell hits 34, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Kuma, Shell hits 14, and is sunk CL Tama, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CL Kitakami, Shell hits 32, and is sunk DD Kazegumo, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Ariake, Shell hits 20, and is sunk Allied Ships CA Shropshire, Shell hits 6 CA Canberra, Shell hits 1, on fire CA Cornwall, Shell hits 6 DD Nepal, Shell hits 1 DD Nestor, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Nizam, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Norman, Shell hits 1 DD Tjerk Hiddes, Shell hits 1, heavy fires DD Van Galen Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 92% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 92% moonlight: 3,000 yards Range closes to 19,000 yards... Range closes to 13,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 13,000 yards Range closes to 7,000 yards... Range closes to 3,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 3,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 3,000 yards Hirata, Noboru crosses the 'T' CA Cornwall engages CL Tama at 3,000 yards Range closes to 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/955197CC9E5246D1BA4BB635347A49FA.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 9:17:40 PM)
The RN also runs into Fuso, which is amazingly still shooting, and gets Nizam in trouble before taking another beating. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kumamoto at 102,59, Range 1,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Fuso, Shell hits 16, on fire DD Yugao, Shell hits 5, on fire Allied Ships CA Shropshire CA Canberra, on fire CA Cornwall DD Nepal DD Nestor, on fire DD Nizam, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Norman, Shell hits 1 DD Tjerk Hiddes, heavy fires DD Van Galen Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms with 92% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 92% moonlight: 1,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/8A0E2889053445F6B6055A521972E579.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 9:19:41 PM)
Sturgeon adds to the misery of Fuso, pushing the total torpedoes to five now she's taken. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Kumamoto at 102,59 Japanese Ships BB Fuso, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Sturgeon BB Fuso is sighted by SS Sturgeon SS Sturgeon launches 4 torpedoes at BB Fuso -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/CDE22B0E8EF745ABB5E4DF3D4C291121.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 9:22:58 PM)
Yet another cruiser TF joins the fray for the Allies, finding Kirishima and three DDs, sinking one, damaging another and putting Kirishima into a sinking position after more shells and a torpedo. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kumamoto at 102,59, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Kirishima, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Uzuki DD Yuzuki, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Matsukaze, Shell hits 4 Allied Ships CA Exeter, Shell hits 2 CL Mauritius DD Farenholt DD Bailey DD Bancroft, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Mahan DD Preston -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/1DCF7FD81A344596931CD040D2BAC8EE.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 9:24:59 PM)
The last to arrive led by two CA and two CL finds Fuso, out of ammunition and barely moving, and sinks her and her escort. Finally! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kumamoto at 102,59, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Fuso, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk DD Yugao, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships CA Hawkins CA Frobisher CL Perth CL Hobart DD Gansevoort, Shell hits 1 DD Gillespie DD Kalk DD Meade DD Arunta DD Warramunga Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms with 85% moonlight Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 85% moonlight: 2,000 yards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/5F6E29CED5604BFE8F6A5C1515764E4A.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/6/2020 9:29:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HansBolter Almost like a walk down memory lane for me. I also got ashore first at Kummomoto. What's different is that my invasion occurred 20 months later than yours, the Russians were still long way from having cleared Korea and I scooped up all of the barrier islands before landing on Kyushu. In may game the AI left Matsuyama (adjacent to Hiroshima) empty so I took it by air landing getting a quick foothold on Honshu. Both Uleungdo and Oki Shoto could possibly be taken by air assault. I've gone for a few in that area, but not the islands. Matsue is a para target here as is Karume. More soon.

CaptBeefheart -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/7/2020 5:02:07 AM)
I always like hitting Kanoya since nothing can reinforce in time. I'm guessing garrison levels are a lot lower in April 1943 so that's less of a factor. Well played. Very interesting naval scuffle. It was almost like the Battle off Samar: The CVE and some escorts get hammered, but the APs live to fight another day. Cheers, CB

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/7/2020 8:54:44 AM)
Late in the night phase after the big battles the Nashville and five DDs first bombarded Shimonoseki effectively, then blundered into Tsushima Island defences somehow. Not sure how that retreat path was chosen, but I'll aim to steer well clear in future. The Helena took five 30cm hits and sank fairly quickly, while DDs took a few smaller caliber hits and also hit Maines. Yuck. In all the Allies lost three DDs and the CL here. [image]local://upfiles/37283/EAB248772AB143858E7A04153B89786A.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/7/2020 9:04:28 AM)
The next stage in the daylight was the air phase, which was full of Allied sweeps from Korea hitting various fields and bombers following to try and disrupt any airstrikes being launched from Kyushu. This was largely successful, or at least no large LBA strikes did hit the Allied forces, but the KB did launch. The strike was large and cohesive, but the Allied CAP performed well. Some bombers got through, and although the main fleet CVs were targeted there were no hits. One set of brand new Judys did make it through to the CVEs and two took hits, with the Nassau getting a pasting from four 500kg bombs. She sank almost immediately. Another took on torpedo hit but will stay with the fleet and continue ops. The IJN strikes were again hit on the way out and suffered significant losses. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Kumamoto at 102,59 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 68 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 112 A6M3a Zero x 38 B5N2 Kate x 66 D3A1 Val x 69 D4Y1 Judy x 21 Allied aircraft P-40E Warhawk x 1 Sea Hurricane Ib x 26 Martlet II x 28 Martlet IV x 13 Hurricane IIc Trop x 2 Kittyhawk I x 2 P-38G Lightning x 6 P-39D Airacobra x 2 P-40E Warhawk x 1 P-40K Warhawk x 5 F4F-4 Wildcat x 230 F6F-3 Hellcat x 60 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 13 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 28 destroyed, 6 damaged B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak D3A1 Val: 35 destroyed, 9 damaged D3A1 Val: 5 destroyed by flak D4Y1 Judy: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CV Yorktown CLAA Juneau CV Wasp CVE Suwannee, Torpedo hits 1 CVE Nassau, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Sangamon, Bomb hits 1 CV Hornet CVL Hermes CV Victorious CVE Chenango Aircraft Attacking: 15 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 10 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 1 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 15000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/9E6F50C91C7949C8924954A86FCE47C9.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/7/2020 9:10:26 AM)
Since the fields are closed I sent in air strikes to hit the ports at Nagasaki. Some transports were spotted earlier evacuating to the inland sea, but the strikes caught two CLs and a number of subs, plus some repair ships still in port. Looks like Agano and Jintsu are goners, several subs are sunk and others crippled, and the repair ships severely damaged as well. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Allied aircraft Mitchell II x 17 B-24D Liberator x 3 B-25C Mitchell x 32 Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged Japanese Ships CL Agano, Bomb hits 2, on fire CL Jintsu, Bomb hits 2, on fire SS I-121, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage SS I-1, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk Repair Shipyard hits 6 Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Port hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 17 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Allied aircraft B-17F Fortress x 3 B-25C Mitchell x 23 Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged Japanese Ships CL Jintsu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage SS I-121, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk CL Agano, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage AR Toei Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage SS I-21, Bomb hits 1 ARD Haiphong ARD, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Port hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 14 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Allied aircraft B-24D Liberator x 8 B-25C Mitchell x 11 Allied aircraft losses B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged Japanese Ships SS I-8, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage CL Jintsu, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage Runway hits 1 Port hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-25D1 Mitchell x 11 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-25D1 Mitchell: 11 damaged B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships AR Kikukawa Maru SS RO-62, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk SS RO-60, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk SS I-8, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk CL Agano, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage SS I-21, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk AR Mexico Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage ARD Haiphong ARD, heavy fires, heavy damage Repair Shipyard hits 8 Port hits 3 Port supply hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 5 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/5058825BD4A648FB8A63D8E6E57D129C.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/7/2020 9:15:50 AM)
Ground combat went much better than expected, as the Japanese defences here were extremely light. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kumamoto (102,59) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 44469 troops, 724 guns, 1083 vehicles, Assault Value = 2000 Defending force 11839 troops, 177 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 288 Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2 Allied adjusted assault: 4652 Japanese adjusted defense: 46 Allied assault odds: 101 to 1 (fort level 2) Allied forces CAPTURE Kumamoto !!! Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 7808 casualties reported Squads: 161 destroyed, 39 disabled Non Combat: 163 destroyed, 63 disabled Engineers: 65 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 161 (131 destroyed, 30 disabled) Vehicles lost 15 (14 destroyed, 1 disabled) Units retreated 6 Units destroyed 2 Allied ground losses: 857 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 110 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled) Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled) Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 1st Marine Division 45th Indian Brigade 13th Armoured Rgt /1 50th Tank Brigade 13th Australian Brigade 255th Armoured Brigade 641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion 2nd Tank Battalion 44th Indian Bde /1 17th Indian Division 22nd Marine Regiment 17th Australian Brigade 2nd USMC Tank Battalion 766th Tank Bn /1 Aus I Corps /1 2/9th Fld RAA Rgt /1 1st USMC FA Bn /1 2nd RAA Med Arty Regiment 2/13th Fld RAA Rgt /1 2nd Marine Defense Battalion 205th Field Artillery Battalion KNI Leger /1 1st RAA Med Arty Regiment I US Corps 134th Field Artillery Battalion 76th Cst AA Rgt /2 1st Port Advn Base Force /1 77th Cst AA Rgt /1 1st RM Heavy AA Rgt /1 308th Base Group 209th FA Bn /1 Defending units: 5th Division 12th Ind.Mixed Brigade 6th Depot Division 34th Ind Engineer Regiment 17th Garrison Unit /3 70th JAAF AF Bn 47th Field Const Co 24th Special Base Force Tachibana-wan Fortress Waifu JAAF Base Force -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/37283/BD32554D519845B9B254237D2B0E59A9.jpg[/image]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/7/2020 9:46:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart I always like hitting Kanoya since nothing can reinforce in time. I'm guessing garrison levels are a lot lower in April 1943 so that's less of a factor. Well played. Very interesting naval scuffle. It was almost like the Battle off Samar: The CVE and some escorts get hammered, but the APs live to fight another day. Cheers, CB I had prep for about 6-7 bases on the Home Islands, and would have liked more in one shot, but my CV/LBA air cover could only handle this one realistically. Kanoya and Kagoshima were intended but I decided that if unreinforced, Kummamoto along with surrounding islands would be better and throw the rest in behind in case the troops were disrupted and fatigued. As it turned out they're now available for throwing in to Kummamoto to allow multiple paths for the next push. The naval battles went pretty well for what I had available, and now the BBs can take part tomorrow and into the future. I've got AKEs already here and ready to disband into Kummamoto as well. [8D]

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/7/2020 11:11:22 AM)
Here is the situation now after taking Kummamoto. The troops will quickly move to Karume one hex NE, to try and support the failed para-landing there. About 30 AV are still in fighting condition but it looks like almost 20k IJA troops in hex, so probably a well supported ID. I should be able to get all of the armour there for the 23rd, including a strong 200AV armoured Brigade and numerous US battalions. If the Allied IDs follow in two turns I'm hoping to take this base in the clear and have the choice of moving on to Fukuoka or Nagasaki from there. The fields are undamaged, but only size 2. I flew in my only good NF group plus some Spits and P-40K to add to the CV air in hex now. [image]local://upfiles/37283/C7DC54F273274B12A664FD745323F68B.jpg[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/7/2020 2:18:37 PM)
I count three ARs and an ARD in the combat reports at Nagasaki. Seems strange to have such valuable ships there, especially since the base has a shipyard. He did seem to be using it as his major repair base. Perhaps those ARs and ARD had ships assigned and could not easily bug out? Whatever the reason - nice haul! The ARD has to be especially rare for Japan. Your decisions are solid, and often brilliant - as usual! [&o]

CaptBeefheart -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/8/2020 12:27:55 AM)
Tsushima is a PITA. I've had TFs stumble there with similar results. If it hasn't been reinforced with infantry, you should be able to take it fairly easily with paras (maybe 2/3 to 1 division?) once they aren't doing more important things. Well done on the invasion. This should be quite interesting to the peanut gallery. Cheers, CB

BBfanboy -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/8/2020 1:23:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart Tsushima is a PITA. I've had TFs stumble there with similar results. If it hasn't been reinforced with infantry, you should be able to take it fairly easily with paras (maybe 2/3 to 1 division?) once they aren't doing more important things. Well done on the invasion. This should be quite interesting to the peanut gallery. Cheers, CB I took it with a single USMC Para Bn with 30 AV, but after the fort had been bombed silly first.

obvert -> RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: Lowpe (J) vs obvert (A) (1/8/2020 10:42:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy I count three ARs and an ARD in the combat reports at Nagasaki. Seems strange to have such valuable ships there, especially since the base has a shipyard. He did seem to be using it as his major repair base. Perhaps those ARs and ARD had ships assigned and could not easily bug out? Whatever the reason - nice haul! The ARD has to be especially rare for Japan. Your decisions are solid, and often brilliant - as usual! [&o] He definitely scaled back on the number of ships there over the past weeks as the Allies approached, but I'm guessing he had some that were still repairing and couldn't get them out as quickly. Probably upgrades. Maybe unintended upgrades, which are a PITA when you're disbanding and forget to check the do not upgrade switch. As I've found in the endgame, there just aren't any safe places left to put ships once the Allies are in range. Each port has to be defended or you have to leave them in TFs burning fuel as CAP traps and hope for the best. I think he may not have much fuel left for the second option.

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