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Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/17/2017 1:12:34 PM)

Lower SRA...

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Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/17/2017 1:26:12 PM)

Jan 9, 1942

Top R&D Factories...

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Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/17/2017 1:28:08 PM)

And finally Burma...

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Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/17/2017 2:18:29 PM)

Plane Production Jan 9, 1942

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ny59giants -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/17/2017 2:46:19 PM)

I think you need a factory for the Babs (IJN recon) as you will run out of them and you don't have anything else to use.



Lord_Calidor -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/17/2017 7:21:20 PM)

Have you invested more in Frank & Sam R&D? In your opinion, is <100 Zeros & Oscars enough to keep the existing squadrons stocked, plus upgrading of obsolete planes ie A5 & Ki-27?
I went crazy with fighter factory upgrading and pushed them both to cca. 115-120.
Also, if you find time & willpower, can you describe merchant marine conversions & convoy routes? I relied heavily on Trackers Convoy tool, however I find it hard to plan up ahead since it data-mines the current port data, and doesn't allow us to manually enter eg. port size and resource/oil factories loading bonuses.



Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/18/2017 12:44:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I think you need a factory for the Babs (IJN recon) as you will run out of them and you don't have anything else to use.


Jan 9, 1942

The bottom end of the production report. Other than Ann's I don't think I have done much here. You can see Dinah under production for the Army, and there are currently 56 Babs (Army) in the pools.

The Navy however, has no production and only 6 in the pool.


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Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/18/2017 12:48:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lord_Calidor

In your opinion, is <100 Zeros & Oscars enough to keep the existing squadrons stocked, plus upgrading of obsolete planes ie A5 & Ki-27?



I don't know...but I am going to try and hold off making more. I have the feeling that once the Allies spend their planes, here initially, they will turtle up...so Nates and Claudes will do a lot of work.

This is a scenario 1 game...and everything is precious. Obvert has extracted a supply cost with his constant industry bombing...so I do need to be very careful.

I will be pulling pilots to save for Jacks and Franks.




Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/18/2017 12:53:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lord_Calidor

Have you invested more in Frank & Sam R&D?


I have gone very moderate, to me. Only 5 factories on Frank (already at 3, 2, 2, 1 &1 repaired). Sams are at 6 factories (4 at 1 and 2 at 0). I will be looking to add more Sam factories in 1943 hopefully, but not many more.

I am starting to think that Sams should probably be closer to 9-10 factories from the start.

But I needed to save factories for the big push on kamikazes...



Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/18/2017 12:59:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lord_Calidor
can you describe merchant marine conversions & convoy routes? I relied heavily on Trackers Convoy tool, however I find it hard to plan up ahead since it data-mines the current port data, and doesn't allow us to manually enter eg. port size and resource/oil factories loading bonuses.



Making a ton of AR, AD, AG, all the PB I can. ACM's to support the initial minefields. Also making a lot of AV.

All Husemi are slated for conversion.

20 or so AKE. The first ones are just now getting into position forward.

With respect to convoy, I am hauling from Fusan, Hokkaido, and the Japanese Islands so far. I did ship several large tankers out of Palembang...and they almost got sunk. Balikpapen can't even supply the ships with fuel yet, so no shipping there. Nothing from Miri yet either.

Still very early yet.




Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/18/2017 1:06:07 PM)

Michael,

here are the Navy recon squadrons and reinforcements. I actually am doing some research on the Myrt. In October of 42 the Judy C will show up (and I will make her) and the following month the Irving C shows up (most likely won't make it).

So, in the interim, I need to be really careful with the few Navy Babs I have.[;)] They might become just trainers...

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PS: The Myrt will be my go to recon, hopefully focusing on the Deathstar and not suffering too badly because of the height and speed? At least I will test it out.



Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/18/2017 1:17:01 PM)

I held off the Chinese at Ichang (soon to be a major airfield) and at Changsha. Pushing forward in the far north, but you can see Obvert's mastery of China here in his defensive dispositions.

Normally, I would want to take all of China, but this game I am going to trash the Chinese economy (well, the deep economy). I want to see how the game plays out without a huge commitment here (and hopefully I will save tons of supplies).



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Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/18/2017 1:26:11 PM)

A look at Fusan and the CS Convoys picking up there. I don't worry about maximizing tfs...but rather like using multiple small task forces and let the locals handle all the problems.[8D]



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Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/18/2017 1:30:52 PM)

Going slow on the turn., which I have. I let Obvert know who is very understanding...it is the busy time of work for him.

We both feel the game has spiraled out of control! Obvert is especially 2nd guessing sending the CVs into the straits, what he doesn't realize is that probably extended their life on at least one occasions when I sent all my ships to the south where I thought he would be.

The carnage is simply out of this world...



Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/18/2017 3:35:44 PM)

Turn is taking forever to finish...



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Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/18/2017 5:28:02 PM)

Got the turn off to Obvert...just got tired of having it...there are still tons of things to do -- I hope I didn't make too many mistakes/oversights.




Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 12:22:23 AM)

With Rangoon falling, the Burma road is now cut...[:)]



Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 1:08:09 AM)

Jan 10, 1942

Allies take shelter in ports...

B17 strike the runways SW of Palembang...much better than oil or fuel or port strikes to be honest.

100 engineers and 10 tractors make great work onPalembang runway...now 31% damaged. Protected by a Battleship and several heavy cruisers now...another Battleships to the south, another at Brunei fully rearmed.

My sweep of Singers doesn't fly...a strike by Vals is escorted but the CAP gets to them...darn Lightnings. Severe storms...

Splash a lot of PBYs..

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Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 1:09:46 AM)

Losses...

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Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 1:11:42 AM)

Singers area...

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Capt. Harlock -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 3:16:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

With Rangoon falling, the Burma road is now cut...[:)]


I'm not convinced. It seems to me that supply can still flow from Akyab to Prome, and then along the usual route. Not in the quantity possible from Rangoon, I grant you.



Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 3:19:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

With Rangoon falling, the Burma road is now cut...[:)]


I'm not convinced. It seems to me that supply can still flow from Akyab to Prome, and then along the usual route. Not in the quantity possible from Rangoon, I grant you.


I speak specifically of the 500 extra supply...not the normal supply logistics.[:)]



Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 3:39:37 AM)

The North...bitter cold...need to strengthen my search up here...

but if the Allied CVs have retreated...are they bound for the Marshalls? Safeguarding Midway?



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Alfred -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 5:46:06 AM)

Provided it doesn't distract you from whatever your real objective are, from a psychological POV there is great merit in you pursuing an early thrust into the Alaskan and Hawaii regions to plant the idea that you are going to do the West Coast invasion again, but this time done properly.  Your opponent almost certainly knows about your effort against Jocke, and if he doesn't he is bound to be informed by some reader of his AAR.

Alfred



Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 11:31:08 AM)

Yamashiro....back for repairs.

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ny59giants -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 11:52:59 AM)

I know you have a million and one things going on, but don't overlook moving your large BFs and Special BFs to help out at key bases like Jolo and Palembang. Their Naval Support should be helpful in many ways.



Lord_Calidor -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 12:10:19 PM)

Ah yes, I went back to the first few pages, when you laid out more detailed plans for Emperor's merchant navy. There are some serious cargo reductions in this mod! [X(]

Do you plan to develop Miri, then ship from there, or let it flow overland to Brunei and use it as a port hub? Miri can only go to port 3(0), while Brunei all the way to 6(3) (unless it's changed in that mod). However, Miri has substantial loading bonuses from oil fields and refineries, which Brunei does not, or has a small 10-20 oil fields.



Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 12:40:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I know you have a million and one things going on, but don't overlook moving your large BFs and Special BFs to help out at key bases like Jolo and Palembang. Their Naval Support should be helpful in many ways.


You are quite correct in that I feel very dis-satisfied with each turn as they could easily eat up a few more hours each. But it is a long game, and quite frankly slow turns make for a poor game imho.

Here is a list of most of these base forces...I do need to do better here, and on a lot of other areas.




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Lowpe -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 12:42:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lord_Calidor

Ah yes, I went back to the first few pages, when you laid out more detailed plans for Emperor's merchant navy. There are some serious cargo reductions in this mod! [X(]

Do you plan to develop Miri, then ship from there, or let it flow overland to Brunei and use it as a port hub? Miri can only go to port 3(0), while Brunei all the way to 6(3) (unless it's changed in that mod). However, Miri has substantial loading bonuses from oil fields and refineries, which Brunei does not, or has a small 10-20 oil fields.


I won't build either of them up. The 8K tankers fit just fine and can run to Luzon just fine. 11K tankers at Brunei. No problem in draining them dry.

Did I mention that the first 75K of fuel and oil is all going to Formosa - arriving in a day or two. I don't want to drop at Hong Kong till Wenchow is mine and some other parts of lower China. Almost all tankers are idle in port....exception one at Fusan and several at Hokkaido/Sakhalin. One tanker filling at Formosa to keep it drained, too.




ny59giants -> RE: The Dutch are the first to Die! (5/19/2017 1:54:36 PM)

The hardest thing to master as Japan in first few months is pace of operations IMO. Getting enough shipping to correct bases to pickup troops is difficult. You cannot afford waiting for TF to get to base because you forgot to form it. 😳 Take your time or do like I do and spend a morning like Saturday to do heavy plotting and scheming.



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