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IJV -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/25/2017 2:59:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Encircled

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Quit, why? What really changed from yesterday, last week, or last month?


This is true! [:D]

Not disrespecting your play, or anything, I think you've done better than anybody would have managed and its great to see a fight like this.

Just want to echo what has been said as well, those Allied naval units did amazingly well for '42.


Yep, absolutely. Probably the most interesting (and weird, but interesting for it) game there's been for a long time - I know I read both sides every day and obviously am not the only one...



Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/25/2017 1:45:52 PM)

April 8th, 1942

Japanese attacks at Lashio and Wenchow fail to get 2-1, Lashio forts were rebuilt to 2.

Beasts attack Miri, no damage thanks to AA and poor recon, but I had no planes there flying CAP thanks to an upgrade to Oscar Ic last turn. Another Rufe Squadron joins the fold, only 7 planes, but they could have been flying CAP over Miri.

Soviets keep on plugging away. Soviets now pick two or so aerial attacks per day swept by Migs. Tough to CAP trap. Working on bombing smaller concentrations of Soviets, but the Sally is fragile and needs rest after each mission.



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Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/25/2017 1:56:17 PM)

Rufe...this squadron will go to 24 shortly, but it will be a full two months before all three Rufe squadrons are filled out to max planes, but even just a few flying CAP can prevent bombers from making hits.

In a day or two, I will get 2 9 plane Chutai of Rufe. I am not sure if I can resize them or not, but that will give me 5 squadrons quite the little force.

Most welcome addition to the IJNAF. Interesting to note that this squadron does upgrade to the A6M5, and but of course, they won't be going there, but to Rex (July of 1943). They will be deep base defense planes, until we start getting enough other fighters then they will switch to the CS and join the KB in low altitude CAP.



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PaxMondo -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/25/2017 2:04:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

... but the Sally is fragile and needs rest after each mission.


Sally has reasonably good DUR, so to me that would imply he either has some AA deployed OR the SOV units have reasonable integral AA.

I don't know the OOB of the this mod so I cannot say which ...



Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/25/2017 2:19:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

... but the Sally is fragile and needs rest after each mission.


Sally has reasonably good DUR, so to me that would imply he either has some AA deployed OR the SOV units have reasonable integral AA.

I don't know the OOB of the this mod so I cannot say which ...


Soviets basically have 1945 AA from the start and integral AA in a lot of units....very plentiful and very dangerous.



TheElf -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/26/2017 4:59:43 PM)

Lowpe, facsinating AAR. First time I've all the way through one in a day in years...

One question. Given the unique circumstances around Palembang, why have you not focused your Rikko units in the SRA to counter his resupply and reinforcement plans? It seems that is one aspect of your game that is missing. Even with the strength he has shown in Air Power to date, it seems an early Rikko scourge with good supply and appropriate HQs would have helped tremendously especially with his US Carriers out of the picture.

Anyway, keep it up. I can't wait to see how your R/D program pans out in Russia, and with the Heavies. Good luck!

~Elf



Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 12:54:45 PM)

April 10th, 1942 (missed a day due to holiday & travel)

Yesterday, the Allies send a well packaged invasion force into Attu. The defenders lost 50% of their strength to battleships and cruisers bombardments, and are outnumbered three to one now in effective AV.

There is about 75 AV on both islands in front of Attu, but quite simply, another day, another demand for IJA Troops that simply don't exist. [;)]

Bering did get to size 1, and now some Oscars are prowling around up here. I wish it could be Zero, but they are in such short supply and heavily demanded elsewhere.






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Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 1:05:05 PM)

Manchuko

Soviets have now switched tactics and bomb only where Migs sweep first, which means only 1-2 targets per day.

The Kotou pocket defenders are finally getting back to the rails and will bolster the Tsisihar to Harbin to Lihnsi line (such that it is[;)]).

Some meager reinforcements arrived at Fusan and head north, while another Division (grade b) is pulled from China. I really need more AV support here & runways as soon the Japanese air force will be resurgent.

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Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 1:19:02 PM)

Supply has been short here for a while, as a month ago I thought I could hold Palembang with about 300 AV and sent way too much there. I have gone to having supply bases, and let other areas starve so to speak, so there are several bases with well over 20,000 and some without.

Magwe is being visited nightly by B17 and other 4E beasties, and I have had to put some precious Oscar Ic on night duty as those B17s were getting some hits. I expect the lion share of the Allied fighters to relocate up there to really engage in an all out war on Magwe/Rangoon. The next few months will be tough.

Singkep held off another attack, after a bombardment by battleships and cruisers.

I have flown out splinters from Palembang expecting the worst with each attack. This last attack was 1-4 but forts are now gone, and the odds are misleading with all the Allied tanks here and no AT capability on Japan's side.

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witpqs -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 1:24:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheElf

Lowpe, facsinating AAR. First time I've all the way through one in a day in years...

One question. Given the unique circumstances around Palembang, why have you not focused your Rikko units in the SRA to counter his resupply and reinforcement plans? It seems that is one aspect of your game that is missing. Even with the strength he has shown in Air Power to date, it seems an early Rikko scourge with good supply and appropriate HQs would have helped tremendously especially with his US Carriers out of the picture.

Anyway, keep it up. I can't wait to see how your R/D program pans out in Russia, and with the Heavies. Good luck!

~Elf

Ian - "Rikko" - I don't know that abbreviation?



Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 1:29:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheElf

Lowpe, facsinating AAR. First time I've all the way through one in a day in years...

One question. Given the unique circumstances around Palembang, why have you not focused your Rikko units in the SRA to counter his resupply and reinforcement plans? It seems that is one aspect of your game that is missing. Even with the strength he has shown in Air Power to date, it seems an early Rikko scourge with good supply and appropriate HQs would have helped tremendously especially with his US Carriers out of the picture.

Anyway, keep it up. I can't wait to see how your R/D program pans out in Russia, and with the Heavies. Good luck!

~Elf


Honored., can't tell you how many times I have searched the forum for your posts concerning the air war. Unfortunately, my opponent has too.

I just haven't had the fighters present to really go wild with them. Probably a mistake. When you make a mistake as Japan it keeps biting you for the rest of the game. I didn't do a Mersing gambit, I didn't build Oscar Ic and Zero, I didn't r&d Rufe heavily, totally unprepared for war with Soviets..you get the picture.

It has all come back to hurt Japan.



Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 2:53:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: TheElf

Lowpe, facsinating AAR. First time I've all the way through one in a day in years...

One question. Given the unique circumstances around Palembang, why have you not focused your Rikko units in the SRA to counter his resupply and reinforcement plans? It seems that is one aspect of your game that is missing. Even with the strength he has shown in Air Power to date, it seems an early Rikko scourge with good supply and appropriate HQs would have helped tremendously especially with his US Carriers out of the picture.

Anyway, keep it up. I can't wait to see how your R/D program pans out in Russia, and with the Heavies. Good luck!

~Elf

Ian - "Rikko" - I don't know that abbreviation?


You can figure it out. What does almost every AFB complain about early in the game?



Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 3:11:29 PM)

10 days into April, and we have four Rufe units up and about. Not really doing much yet, but will be doing more in a day or two.

It is nice to see that adding fresh replacement pilots we get a2a skill in the 30s. Looks like I can resize 3 of them to 24. I will probably then splinter them into thirds to cover lots of bases from deep Allied bomber strikes.

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Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 3:23:46 PM)

Here is the last attack at Palembang, where the Allies most likely only attacked with their tank units.



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Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 3:42:24 PM)

Next month will see almost a doubling of Japanese fighter, fighter bomber and float fighter production. Planes will be arriving a large enough numbers to start to turn the tide in the air I hope.

I need to destroy 16 Migs a month, plus their accumulated production.

There are 3 size 30 A6M3 factories that I might switch to the A6M3a which is scheduled to arrive in Dec of 1942, and that would cause the plane to arrive in late summer early fall instead. I don't plan on r&d any Zero after the A6M3a. They will come when the come. Given that this will be a short game, that is likely a mistake, but I do it for a couple of reasons.

1. My r&d into Sam is intense.
2. Keep me cautious with my carriers until Sam arrives.
3. Force a greater reliance upon Jack, George and Frank.





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Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 3:50:53 PM)

In June, the Tojo IIa will arrive at a production of 60 per month. Fastest fighter I have, but pitifully armed. I suspect the slower A6M3 will do better versus the MIG than the Tojo. Tojo's might end up all going to fight the Allies and not the Bear. We shall see.



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Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 3:59:24 PM)

Japanese fighter strength, total, has hovered around 600 or fewer planes for the last few months. Almost every squadron is depleted, and Zero squadrons have been particularly hard hit. I am hoping this is the low water mark for quite a while.

You simply can't fight the Bear and the Allies with the pitiful fighter production that I have had.





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witpqs -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 7:24:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: TheElf

Lowpe, facsinating AAR. First time I've all the way through one in a day in years...

One question. Given the unique circumstances around Palembang, why have you not focused your Rikko units in the SRA to counter his resupply and reinforcement plans? It seems that is one aspect of your game that is missing. Even with the strength he has shown in Air Power to date, it seems an early Rikko scourge with good supply and appropriate HQs would have helped tremendously especially with his US Carriers out of the picture.

Anyway, keep it up. I can't wait to see how your R/D program pans out in Russia, and with the Heavies. Good luck!

~Elf

Ian - "Rikko" - I don't know that abbreviation?


You can figure it out. What does almost every AFB complain about early in the game?


When I read it I thought "reconnaissance", but that's abbreviated either recce or recon AFAIK. So... is that it?



Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 7:58:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: TheElf

Lowpe, facsinating AAR. First time I've all the way through one in a day in years...

One question. Given the unique circumstances around Palembang, why have you not focused your Rikko units in the SRA to counter his resupply and reinforcement plans? It seems that is one aspect of your game that is missing. Even with the strength he has shown in Air Power to date, it seems an early Rikko scourge with good supply and appropriate HQs would have helped tremendously especially with his US Carriers out of the picture.

Anyway, keep it up. I can't wait to see how your R/D program pans out in Russia, and with the Heavies. Good luck!

~Elf

Ian - "Rikko" - I don't know that abbreviation?


You can figure it out. What does almost every AFB complain about early in the game?


When I read it I thought "reconnaissance", but that's abbreviated either recce or recon AFAIK. So... is that it?

Type 96 land-based attack aircraft "Rikko"



Kitakami -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 8:00:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Type 96 land-based attack aircraft "Rikko"


Better known to the Allies by the codename "Nell"?



ny59giants -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 8:22:33 PM)

What are you doing about IJA bombers?? Lily, Sally, or Helen? I know you like your Lily DBs later on. The last Helens have armor.



Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 8:25:04 PM)

Yep.[:)]

I am always hesitant at using them early without a two or three to one ratio of fighter escorts, since they get shot down in great numbers.

Lately I have had a squadron on night attack, but haven't had any strikes yet. Usually they will sortie against naval bombardments, but so far no joy.




Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 8:28:56 PM)

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What are you doing about IJA bombers?? Lily, Sally, or Helen? I know you like your Lily DBs later on. The last Helens have armor.


Sally will be the work horse. I am using everything, Ann, Sonia, Lilly. Too much is going into ASW, as the subs are just all over and in large numbers. Wenchow is being bombed daily, and every few days I hit something in Manchuko with 100 Sallies. Occasionally I bomb something in Sumatra or China.

There is no r&d into any bomber other than the Grace (which only has one size 30 rebuilding now).

All of my research is fighters or fighter bombers.



ny59giants -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 8:34:57 PM)

Wenchow can become a thorn in the side of Japan. [:-] If the Allies add a few more Corp to the 100th, it takes more than a few divisions to take it. Do you risk using CA/BBs to increase disruption and damage industry?? You cannot afford to keep 3 or more divisions there for a siege. Decisions, decisions.



Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 8:40:13 PM)


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Wenchow can become a thorn in the side of Japan. [:-] If the Allies add a few more Corp to the 100th, it takes more than a few divisions to take it. Do you risk using CA/BBs to increase disruption and damage industry?? You cannot afford to keep 3 or more divisions there for a siege. Decisions, decisions.


I have had four divisions there for a long time now. Plus quite a few planes. I have had no spare ships to bombard for quite a long time, but I have bombarded it when given a chance....but my bombardments pretty much stink.



TheElf -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 11:17:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: TheElf

Lowpe, facsinating AAR. First time I've all the way through one in a day in years...

One question. Given the unique circumstances around Palembang, why have you not focused your Rikko units in the SRA to counter his resupply and reinforcement plans? It seems that is one aspect of your game that is missing. Even with the strength he has shown in Air Power to date, it seems an early Rikko scourge with good supply and appropriate HQs would have helped tremendously especially with his US Carriers out of the picture.

Anyway, keep it up. I can't wait to see how your R/D program pans out in Russia, and with the Heavies. Good luck!

~Elf

Ian - "Rikko" - I don't know that abbreviation?


You can figure it out. What does almost every AFB complain about early in the game?


When I read it I thought "reconnaissance", but that's abbreviated either recce or recon AFAIK. So... is that it?


Hey witpqs,

Isshiki rikujō kōgeki ki, Isshikirikkō In japanese the Naval Land attack bombers are abbreviated as Rikko. This would include the G3M Nell too, not just the G4M Betty.



witpqs -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 11:20:12 PM)

Doh!



TheElf -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/28/2017 11:26:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: TheElf

Lowpe, facsinating AAR. First time I've all the way through one in a day in years...

One question. Given the unique circumstances around Palembang, why have you not focused your Rikko units in the SRA to counter his resupply and reinforcement plans? It seems that is one aspect of your game that is missing. Even with the strength he has shown in Air Power to date, it seems an early Rikko scourge with good supply and appropriate HQs would have helped tremendously especially with his US Carriers out of the picture.

Anyway, keep it up. I can't wait to see how your R/D program pans out in Russia, and with the Heavies. Good luck!

~Elf


Honored., can't tell you how many times I have searched the forum for your posts concerning the air war. Unfortunately, my opponent has too.

I just haven't had the fighters present to really go wild with them. Probably a mistake. When you make a mistake as Japan it keeps biting you for the rest of the game. I didn't do a Mersing gambit, I didn't build Oscar Ic and Zero, I didn't r&d Rufe heavily, totally unprepared for war with Soviets..you get the picture.

It has all come back to hurt Japan.


In the early offing when you'd already sunk his two carriers it would have been an ideal time. Especially before he was able to reinforce his bases aurrounding Palembang though, I'd have run and Air Op from any base I could stage out of south of Singers where I could manage torpedoes. Extra fighters be damned. The Rikkos often operated without the luxury of escort owing to the long ranges they were required to fly.

In the early war (first 6 mos) the Rikko scourge is an ideal deterrent to reinforcing Singers by sea or any effort to play with your Surface toys.

It may not be too late.

The way I see it the alternative is to lose the war. Even if at the end of "Operation Xmas Elf" if your Rikko Units are decimated the risk might be worth the reward in terms of allied Ships sunk or Singers cut off. With Russia active you need to bring a swift halt to his efforts in the SRA and send a strong message that any messing about will garner a steep cost to him.

Just out of curiousity how healthy are your Rikkos and what airfiled might you be able to use to lock him down? If you are worried about his CAP at surrounding fields and your Fighter force is stretched too thin, you could bound your Naval search to areas that wouldn't include heavy CAPs and restrict your Rikkos range so they don't ventrue to far toward a heavily CAP'd base hex.

Just my thoughts...anyone else can weigh in.



Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/29/2017 12:36:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TheElf


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: TheElf

Lowpe, facsinating AAR. First time I've all the way through one in a day in years...

One question. Given the unique circumstances around Palembang, why have you not focused your Rikko units in the SRA to counter his resupply and reinforcement plans? It seems that is one aspect of your game that is missing. Even with the strength he has shown in Air Power to date, it seems an early Rikko scourge with good supply and appropriate HQs would have helped tremendously especially with his US Carriers out of the picture.

Anyway, keep it up. I can't wait to see how your R/D program pans out in Russia, and with the Heavies. Good luck!

~Elf


Honored., can't tell you how many times I have searched the forum for your posts concerning the air war. Unfortunately, my opponent has too.

I just haven't had the fighters present to really go wild with them. Probably a mistake. When you make a mistake as Japan it keeps biting you for the rest of the game. I didn't do a Mersing gambit, I didn't build Oscar Ic and Zero, I didn't r&d Rufe heavily, totally unprepared for war with Soviets..you get the picture.

It has all come back to hurt Japan.


In the early offing when you'd already sunk his two carriers it would have been an ideal time. Especially before he was able to reinforce his bases aurrounding Palembang though, I'd have run and Air Op from any base I could stage out of south of Singers where I could manage torpedoes. Extra fighters be damned. The Rikkos often operated without the luxury of escort owing to the long ranges they were required to fly.

In the early war (first 6 mos) the Rikko scourge is an ideal deterrent to reinforcing Singers by sea or any effort to play with your Surface toys.

It may not be too late.

The way I see it the alternative is to lose the war. Even if at the end of "Operation Xmas Elf" if your Rikko Units are decimated the risk might be worth the reward in terms of allied Ships sunk or Singers cut off. With Russia active you need to bring a swift halt to his efforts in the SRA and send a strong message that any messing about will garner a steep cost to him.

Just out of curiousity how healthy are your Rikkos and what airfiled might you be able to use to lock him down? If you are worried about his CAP at surrounding fields and your Fighter force is stretched too thin, you could bound your Naval search to areas that wouldn't include heavy CAPs and restrict your Rikkos range so they don't ventrue to far toward a heavily CAP'd base hex.

Just my thoughts...anyone else can weigh in.


I have a little over three hundred on Malaya from Victoria Point south to Kuantan. 36 at Bihoro, and 2 at Truk.



Lowpe -> RE: Soviets Activated.... (11/29/2017 12:43:04 AM)

April 11, 1942

Attu falls to the 8th Marine Rgt and friends.

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