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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/14/2019 8:27:17 PM)

In the good news/bad news category, my little assault on Aparri went very well. I retook the base and killed some american support squads (plus 3 air frames). The bad news is that I did such a good job blowing up the airbase that it's at 99 level damage and thus, I suspect, my tabbies can't fly these boys home. They're running for rough terrain to prevent annihilation from the air.

A squadron of early model corsairs did not get the order to stand down and lost 5 planes over Manila but otherwise the air war was quiet. The bombardment battle of Manila continued. Scott lost 12 squads devices and I lost 3. There was not a huge reduction in supply so I'll keep this up for awhile before I stop shooting my own guns.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/15/2019 6:02:32 PM)

This was not a good turn in the air over Manila. 4 of the top fighter fighter losses were mine. :( So, I'm pulling back to Clark for a turn in hopes Scott wastes another sweep over Manila and gets his boys just a little more tired. The heavy losses of Franks has been the most surprising in this series of combats. That and delay that seems to come with reinforcing other squadrons. All of the squadrons set to withdrawal on July 10th will take replacements but none of the other ones will.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/15/2019 6:06:31 PM)

Meanwhile, the American KB has moved off of Manila. There are no transports here so I"m not 100% sure what is going on. The KB itself moved out of Hong Kong to patrol between Hong Kong and Canton so that it's fighters are not reduced, but I don't know if he's heading up there. Maybe he's going to hit Cam Ranh Bay? Who knows? I don't see any transports in here.

The Manila bombardment went well. 12 more American casualties against 4 Japanese. And, my Manila supply level went up thanks to a fast transport convoy and the start of the airbridge from Taiwan.

It looks like I was able to pick up my paratroop boys after all. That's a bit puzzling since I've been unable to fly Tabblies into Singapore. Oh well. I'm flying AA units out of Singapore now so that they can reconstitute on the mainland.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/15/2019 6:09:02 PM)

And, I have a Kamikaze attack slated for Kota Baru. Those ships have been there for awhile and part of me suspects a trap. But, I've done recon for two turns and have an 8 out of 9 so there are no planes on the airbase and no ground troops. Still, it is a bit odd. On the other hand, these Kamikaze squadrons are not going to slam into ships if I don't use them and if it's not an ambush it looks like I have a good chance to kill some allied shipping and DDs.

Oh, a Japanese sub did sink a DD near Babledaob and make it out alive!

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/16/2019 2:33:54 PM)

July 3rd is in the books and it was not a good turn for the Empire of Japan. Scott hit Clark Field with limited fighters and a lot of B-24s and my CAP was pathetic. Scott was shot me down at about a 3-1 ratio or worse. He also sank a CL and two DDs that had run out of Manila with excellent leadership. But, none of my torpedos hit home and I went down to superior allied shells and fire control.

My Kamikaze strike went in at Kota Bahrue and I lost 65 planes! There was no CAP just kamikazes and AA. I have a confirmed kill on a DD and an AM so that is a very bad VP ratio. I did get multiple hits on two AKs that were reported with heavy fires and heavy damage and another hit on an AK that was burning. If they go down it was probably worth it but, if not, then it was a failed strike.

I'm also pulling back from Rangoon. Singapore is about to fall and that will free Scott up for more adventures. In Manila proper, I did kill 17 squads/devices with my bombardment to a loss of none and I wiped out an allied base force so it's not all gloom and doom.



tarkalak -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/17/2019 9:35:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: John B.

In the good news/bad news category, my little assault on Aparri went very well. I retook the base and killed some american support squads (plus 3 air frames). The bad news is that I did such a good job blowing up the airbase that it's at 99 level damage and thus, I suspect, my tabbies can't fly these boys home. They're running for rough terrain to prevent annihilation from the air.

A squadron of early model corsairs did not get the order to stand down and lost 5 planes over Manila but otherwise the air war was quiet. The bombardment battle of Manila continued. Scott lost 12 squads devices and I lost 3. There was not a huge reduction in supply so I'll keep this up for awhile before I stop shooting my own guns.

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Aparri is a coastal hex, right?

You should be able to evacuate them with flying boats.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/19/2019 1:54:29 PM)

Tarkalak, the tabblies were actually able to fly in and evacuate them. And, they were able to fly and drop again. I should be able to post an update later on today.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/19/2019 11:12:41 PM)

It's July 6th and there have been a couple of significant moves. First, I stopped fighting the airwar over Manila. I started losing planes at a 2-1 ratio and Scott now is running 300+ fighters over there every turn. So, this turn he had some nice losses to flak and ops losses. And, I'm able to rebuild my fighter squadrons.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/19/2019 11:16:14 PM)

The flak losses were over Manila but I'm a bit surprised there were not more. My flak level is at 72 (with a number of 88 mm) but his B-24js coming in at 15,000 feet were not affected. Hopefully he stops with the medium bombers or he goes to higher altitude but that does not seem to have too much effect on bombing accuracy.

As you can see, Manila is still doing pretty well in supplies at 183,000 so, if I continue to burn 1,400 per day I can last about 120 days at the current level of expenditure. I've got all my Tabbies flying supplies in and I think they manage 5 per plane, plus light industry and Emilies.

Does anyone know how I can find other squadrons to upgrade to Tabbies? I've only been able to find three and they are great supply transports!

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/19/2019 11:17:45 PM)

My bombardments at Manila have been pretty consistent with Scott losing 10 squads/devices per turn. I lost 1 or zero to his bombardment so the ratio is in my favor. I'm not sure if it's worth my supply expenditure, but, on the other hand, at least I'm hitting back a little bit and picking up 3 VP per turn is not a bad thing.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/19/2019 11:21:15 PM)

In other news, I'm giving up Rangoon. I have 5 divisions there holding up 4 allied divisions and I'm too vulnerable to an end run around Indochina. But, I'll continue to hold the Moulmein bottleneck with a couple of divisions for as long as I can.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/19/2019 11:22:41 PM)

the KB is kind of frozen in place in Hong Kong. Up there it helps prevent Scott from anything too adventurous and there is not really much it can do anyway.

Again, anyone know how I can find other squadrons to convert to Tabbies?

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BBfanboy -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/19/2019 11:31:48 PM)

I don't understand the issue - does Japan have so many transport squadrons that you can't scroll through them and check their upgrade possibilities?



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/20/2019 12:13:12 PM)

I've only been able to identify five squadrons that can upgrade to the Tabbies and went through all the ones that appear to be transport squadrons. But, many squadrons seem to be able to be more than one type so I was wondering if there was quick way to check.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/20/2019 9:30:07 PM)

I love the smell of burning B-29's in the morning. It smells like victory. [:D] Scott's B-29's periodically roam over my airfields and ports causing havoc and this time they must have assumed the KB wasn't there as they ran into a storm of CAP. With the 2 ops losses it looks like a 50% loss rate for the big bombers and I suspect that most of the rest took some serious damage.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/20/2019 9:31:39 PM)

We don't give much of a write up to the army units that have been destroyed at Singapore. Lot's of VP gone, let's just hope that the delay made their sacrifice worthwhile.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/20/2019 9:33:25 PM)

But, still picking away at him in Manila. Most of the losses my artillery has caused has been vehicles and that may be because Scott has armor and TD units in the city and I have some guns with very high anti-armor ratings. In any event, I continue to pluck away at him. Scott ran a bunch of sweeps over Manila but I just used the opportunity to get more repaired fighters out of there.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/20/2019 9:35:16 PM)

Last but not least, I have not opposed his bombing in Burma for a long long time. So, I flew three squadrons into Pegu to see if I can catch his bombers on the bounce and shoot a few down. I don't know how many ops points I'll have since there is no radar in the hex and I just flew in this turn but I may get a few of his bombers which would be nice.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/20/2019 9:37:09 PM)

I did find out that the large emilys can carry 6 supply points per turn. [X(] But, they are four engines and thus may be worth two VP for each one he brings down. I'll build a few to keep the airbridge to Manila open. I'm really hoping that city can last a long time.



BBfanboy -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/20/2019 9:40:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: John B.

I did find out that the large emilys can carry 6 supply points per turn. [X(] But, they are four engines and thus may be worth two VP for each one he brings down. I'll build a few to keep the airbridge to Manila open. I'm really hoping that city can last a long time.

Emilys are great for retrieving cut-off troops because of their range. And don't they carry the Okha, or is that role just for Bettys?



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/20/2019 9:55:46 PM)

I don't know about the Okha. But, you make a good point about cut off troops. I have several bases that don't need garrisons but have troops languishing there. They might as well come home to help with defense.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/23/2019 4:43:04 PM)

Here's an interesting occurrence. You'll see that there were two fighter sweeps launched over Bataan. My fighters came from the KB. Looks like pretty good weather. And, since it just shows the same thing, the sweeps over Bataan from Manila also ran into good weather. And, no fighter opposition.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/23/2019 4:43:27 PM)

Ooops, here is the picture.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/23/2019 4:48:51 PM)

And here is the KB within seven hexes of Bataan. Do you think that the 200+ strike aircraft flew one single sortie against the two large allied TFs in Bataan? In either the AM or the PM turn? [8|] With those allied TFs having been detected for more than a week?

Honestly, these failures to be able to get in sneak attacks that happen time after time in this game to the Japanese carriers means it ain't the micro weather in the hex. If they want to make sure that Japan just can't launch surprise attacks with their carriers they can tell us so I can spend my turns clicking through endless allied bombing raids and not trying to plan out ways to help the Japanese. [8|]

Not much else in other news. Scott moved through Manila so now he can put troops in the north. My bombardments have ceased to have as much effect only killing 5 squads and losing one so I'll probably stop them pretty soon to save on ammo. I'm not sure what good all my flak does since it does not shoot anything down. I've made it out of Pegu and am heading down to Moulmein.



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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/23/2019 8:10:19 PM)

Oh look, light clouds over Bataan! And these planes came from the KB hex.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/23/2019 8:11:36 PM)

Oh look, the KB is now closer to Bataan, and the allied TF next to Bataan. Next I'll post the results of the devestating airstrikes from the KB that really put the Kibosh on a number of allied ships.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/23/2019 8:16:29 PM)

Oh look, nothing to post. I wonder why the KB did not launch yet again. It must be the micro climates that don't affect the sweeps coming from the carriers to the target hexes. Or the high aggression good air commander TF commanders, or the fact there are no spotted allied CVs that would inhibit these launches, or the well trained aircrew with good commanders. It can't be the game itself has something in it.

I have played this game for a number of years and I enjoy many aspects of it. But, it sure detracts from the fun if it has it rigged against Japanese carrier operations. 44-45 is just going to be me clicking through allied air raids and squirreling away the CVs since it makes no sense to send them out to waste fuel and risk their early demise if the game hinders Japanese launches.



mind_messing -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/23/2019 11:46:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: John B.

Oh look, nothing to post. I wonder why the KB did not launch yet again. It must be the micro climates that don't affect the sweeps coming from the carriers to the target hexes. Or the high aggression good air commander TF commanders, or the fact there are no spotted allied CVs that would inhibit these launches, or the well trained aircrew with good commanders. It can't be the game itself has something in it.

I have played this game for a number of years and I enjoy many aspects of it. But, it sure detracts from the fun if it has it rigged against Japanese carrier operations. 44-45 is just going to be me clicking through allied air raids and squirreling away the CVs since it makes no sense to send them out to waste fuel and risk their early demise if the game hinders Japanese launches.


Detection, detection, detection! What were the ships in question that you wanted to attack? What detection levels had you on them?

The game engine (generally) does a good job of attacking worthwhile targets while not going after minor riff-raff under heavy fighter cover.

Even your air group commanders who pick fights with themselves in the mirror aren't going to launch a deckload of planes at some measly Allied subchasers.

But carrier combat is hard to get right, but detection levels are at the core of it.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/24/2019 12:48:56 PM)

Mind messing, thanks for the advice. I do really appreciate it even though I do think there is some internal mechanic that is a bit skewed since it has happened so many times in this game. I hear you regarding the fact that CV commanders are not going to bomb PT boats but this TF was more than that and had been detected by the search planes at Clark Field, search planes from Saigon for more than week as they unloaded at Bataan and search planes from the KB itself both the day before and this turn. But oh well, I'm tired of being a whiny little female dog about this. the planes didn't launch so I'll move on.

And, in more interesting news, there is a large allied TF off of Cam Ran Bay and Quinohn. Is it an invasion TF? If so, what is the target. I have divisions along the coast that I have left in strat mode for just this purpose and they are moving towards the two ports. The question will be can the brigades in each port last until reinforcements arrive? Or, is this just a feint? We'll see.



Bif1961 -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/24/2019 3:32:43 PM)

I understand your frustrations with understanding the game mechanics number crunchers. I had 3 BB TFs sent to bombard Rabual, all 3 had absolute set as their threat posture, direct navigational orders and set to flank speed and only 8 hexes away and full ammo and op-points. The first 24 hour period two TFs moved 2 hexes and the 3rd moved 1. The weather was poor and he only got a 3/10 DL on the one that moved 1 hex, so he may have figured they were just moving between two bases of mine. The next 24 hour period 2 of 3 bombarded but the 3rd did not.All commanders were the best surface commanders in the US fleet and the one that didn't bombard again was led by Ching Lee. Ching Lee's TF finally bombarded on the 3rd night. There were no enemy carriers and only 3 PBs in port and no mines or CD units.Given the above why were all 3 BB TFs bombarding Rabual a whiff the 1st night and why was Ching Lee's a whiff on the 2nd night. So it takes 3 days at flank speed to cover 8 hexes?



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