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BBfanboy -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/24/2019 4:57:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Bif1961

I understand your frustrations with understanding the game mechanics number crunchers. I had 3 BB TFs sent to bombard Rabual, all 3 had absolute set as their threat posture, direct navigational orders and set to flank speed and only 8 hexes away and full ammo and op-points. The first 24 hour period two TFs moved 2 hexes and the 3rd moved 1. The weather was poor and he only got a 3/10 DL on the one that moved 1 hex, so he may have figured they were just moving between two bases of mine. The next 24 hour period 2 of 3 bombarded but the 3rd did not.All commanders were the best surface commanders in the US fleet and the one that didn't bombard again was led by Ching Lee. Ching Lee's TF finally bombarded on the 3rd night. There were no enemy carriers and only 3 PBs in port and no mines or CD units.Given the above why were all 3 BB TFs bombarding Rabual a whiff the 1st night and why was Ching Lee's a whiff on the 2nd night. So it takes 3 days at flank speed to cover 8 hexes?

Ops points expended refueling DDs?



Bif1961 -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/25/2019 1:32:00 PM)

Nope full fuel for all ships before the bombardment TFs were given their orders and ops points were up as well.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/27/2019 8:03:41 PM)

We're now halfway through July. Scott did not invade indochina which is just fine with me. I just wonder where are the forces from Singapore are going. The Japanese bombardment at Manila continues to take a toll.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/27/2019 8:04:36 PM)

Oops the previous screen was me catching some LCT's at Bataan. Looks like a number of them were sunk but none showed up in the VP chart. I hope to see them soon. :)



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/27/2019 8:05:03 PM)

Here is the Manila bombardment.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/27/2019 8:07:17 PM)

But, Scotts bombardment is getting better. Given that I'm in a city with level 9 fortifications he must have a WHOLE lot of guns shooting at me. Scott did catch planes on the ground on Hainan with the B-29s and I lost about 14 planes there. Oh well. I can't have CAP over everyone.

He now has an airborne division at Clark Field and I think his tanks are heading that way. I'll have two brigades 47 mm AT guns and Level 5 forts so let's hope it holds on as well.

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GetAssista -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/27/2019 8:23:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: John B.
But, Scotts bombardment is getting better. Given that I'm in a city with level 9 fortifications he must have a WHOLE lot of guns shooting at me.

I can never reach that kind of efficiency with Japanese 24-30cm arty in initial Chungking bombardments :( They plaster me from behind the forts
And Allies generally do not even have that kind of guns at all



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/27/2019 8:26:18 PM)

I think Scott moved his tanks out of Manila. My big guns have large anti-vehicle numbers and he was losing 10 tanks per turn.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/29/2019 7:43:19 PM)

Well the bad news is that there seems to have been some kind of bug. I saw the LCTs sink and Scott saw the same on his turn. But, the victory report did not show that any of them had sunk at all. [:(] Oh well, onward.

This turn Scott move the American furball up to within 8 hexes of Hong Kong probably to lure my boys into launching an anti ship strike and shredding them with CAP. Fortunately I was set at a 7 hex range and there was no combat. I have my fighters set to zero range so let's see if Scott heads north. Probably not, but if he does he may lose lots of strike aircraft.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/29/2019 7:44:43 PM)

Scott may have every artillery tube in Asia sitting in Manila right now. Ouch, 38 squads, and that's with me having level 9 forts in a light city hex. I killed 11 of him but that was really a pounding. I hope that it's just a fluke die roll. In better news, I shot down 3 A-20s at Manila.

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BBfanboy -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/29/2019 8:40:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: John B.

Well the bad news is that there seems to have been some kind of bug. I saw the LCTs sink and Scott saw the same on his turn. But, the victory report did not show that any of them had sunk at all. [:(] Oh well, onward.

This turn Scott move the American furball up to within 8 hexes of Hong Kong probably to lure my boys into launching an anti ship strike and shredding them with CAP. Fortunately I was set at a 7 hex range and there was no combat. I have my fighters set to zero range so let's see if Scott heads north. Probably not, but if he does he may lose lots of strike aircraft.

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IIRC, Japanese barges and Allied LCTs are not worth any VPs.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (6/29/2019 9:02:40 PM)

Oh then that may explain it!



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/2/2019 1:13:18 PM)

It was a bad day to be a US bomber. The B-25's tried a ground strike on troops in Phnom Penh so the ones that got through did not do any damage at all. As for the B-24Js, they hit the airfield at Takao in Taiwan. They did damage to my transport supply bridge to Manila but at a very heavy price. From the looks of these reports, one third of all the B-24Js shot down in this game happened yesterday. Let's hope he leaves the supply bridge alone for awhile. Or keeps losing 40 heavy bombers per turn to keep it closed. :)

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/2/2019 1:15:36 PM)

As for Manila, they still have nice stock piles of supplies. It's at 168,000 tons after about three weeks of siege. Scott has 9 divisions there but no engineer units. This makes me think he just wants to wait and just shell it until it runs out of supply. He finally hit the light industry but I still have 90 left and it will shut off when the resources are exhausted anyway.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/2/2019 1:19:01 PM)

There is a cost to Scott for letting me bang away on his troops at Manila. He lost another 15 squads devices and I lost one. So 5 VP this turn when I lost none. If I can keep a VP lead that will certainly help. The real question is how long can I keep up Manila's supply. The air bridge has been very helpful so I'm going to have to fight to keep that open as it was probably bringing in 200+ per day. The sub transports are minor but every little bit helps. I may sacrfice an AMC just to run supplies in or a fast transport mission.

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Bif1961 -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/2/2019 2:50:19 PM)

The Pacific version of Stalingrad.



GetAssista -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/2/2019 3:37:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: John B.
It was a bad day to be a US bomber...

Why do you still use A6M2 on CAP well into 44? Do you have a shortage of airframes and loads of pilots to burn?



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/2/2019 11:43:07 PM)

The A6M2s were a training squadron that had almost reached time to switch out pilots and I wanted more fighters at Takao so I paid the PP to move them there for more airframes in case of a bomber raid. I figured with the cannon they were good against unescorted American bombers. Unless there are desperate times I won't be using them in the main fight.



John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/4/2019 1:49:29 PM)

Well, it was not a good turn for the IJN. Scott caught a resupply convoy at Taiwan and laid waste to it. And, he sank a lot of supplies. Some Kamikaze Jeans got in a little bit of payback as did some Jills who just happened to be flying off of my CVLs that I'm moving away from Hong Kong and over to Nagasaki. Still, not a good turn at sea. Nothing to report in the air, I lost a lot of Jeans which tends to happen in Kamikaze operations. [:D]

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/4/2019 1:50:30 PM)

And, I continue to slowly bleed the US army at Manila.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/7/2019 5:22:27 PM)

I've spotted the US carriers. :) It's the big furball too as some poor Kamikazes on local patrol wandered into about 600 planes on CAP. I think that once again Scott was trying to lure me into a naval strike so that he could shoot down all of my planes. Didn't work. [:)] Sadly, last turn his subs did work and they sank a IJN CV that went down with all hands. :( Bound to happen but still sucks when it does. Not even shooting down 3 B-29s could cheer me up.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/7/2019 5:25:15 PM)

Meanwhile, Manila's supply situation is still ok at just north of 160,000. I"m flying in 300 tons per day and the factories are still making 90 per day but, it still is going down by about 2,000 per day or so. I guess Scott figures he has a lot of time and if he sits on Manila for 5 months before he attacks then he has not really lost anything.

I'm not sure how long to keep the bombardments up. The last two turns saw only 4 and 3 squads of his killed respectively so it may make sense for me to reduce supply consumption by eliminating my own bombardment and just shooting back at him while shooting down a plane or two per turn with AA. I think I'll wait until supply goes down to 150,000 and then see how things stand.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/8/2019 11:35:43 PM)

Last turn was a good turn (relatively speaking). Scott decided to fly low with his Corsairs and they paid a really heavy price. Lot's shot down and lots more so badly damaged that they were scrapped. I don't think he'll be doing that again anytime soon. :)

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/8/2019 11:39:53 PM)

This turn, however, was a different story! I think that we accidentally chose the "unionized Kamikaze" option wherein they refuse to fly until after lunch. In the morning I had the perfect ambush set up. Sweeps flying out of Manila cleared the air above Apari. As in, no more CAP. The waves of Kamikazes set to go in, however, did not fly in the morning phase they all flew in the afternoon. [8|] Lot's of dead planes. The only wave that did anything was one of Oscar IBs they actually scored several hits and may have sunk two destroyers and an AK (word is still out on the AK it had a massive explosion). If I did get those ships than the score for the air is slightly less than 2-1 in Scott's favor which helps me as he needs more than 2-1 to win. Or, at least that's what I tell myself.

On the plus side, that was a lot of P-47's he lost. :)

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/11/2019 4:38:22 PM)

The next turn has come and gone. Scott's attentions have shifted a bit further north as he seeks to isolate the Phillipines. I'm trying to run a supply convoy into norther Taiwan and I'm also thinking of pulling the KB out of Hong Kong. Otherwise, they risk having to run a gauntet of sea and land based air to make it to safety. The KB can now concentrate on keeping Taiwan open.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/11/2019 4:39:38 PM)

Takao has a very large mine field and Scott swept 115 mines this turn but at a cost of some YMS and AMs. I"m sending in more mine laying ships to help prevent bombardments of Takao which is the key aerial resupply based for Manila.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/11/2019 4:42:25 PM)

Meanwhile, at Manila, I launched a second wave of air attacks and most of the regular air missed or scored one or two hits (a Lilly did sink and LCT and 3 vehicles so that was cool). But, my Oscar 1b kamikaze squadron continued to show it's stuff. Almost every Kamikaze struck home and I"m pretty sure they took two DDs with them! Can you have an elite Kamikaze squadron? This unit was the only effective on in my attack on the previous turn. They've now relocated to the HI for new planes and pilots.

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John B. -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/11/2019 4:44:43 PM)

And, Scott tried his first attack. This one was on Clark field. I took more losses, but he did not reduce the fort level down from the current 5. And, the AT guns did some damage to all the armor he has there. I don't think I have enough artillery in the hex to up his infantry kills by much. I do have a lot in Manila. Maybe I should move it to Clark field and see what happens.

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BBfanboy -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/11/2019 11:16:24 PM)

Hmm - that fortress at Takao is pretty good - 20 gun shots got 40 hits! Better check the eyesight and the math skills of the guy who was doing the counting ...



Bif1961 -> RE: Quisling! An AFB does Japan (No PanzerKat) (7/12/2019 12:51:39 AM)

You can have an elite Kamikaze unit, but not for long. Talked about successful you got 6 hits with only 5 Oscars being destroyed.



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