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thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/7/2017 2:14:13 AM)

Oh, sorry, yes I agreed to your plan despite my sarcastic response.



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/7/2017 4:05:54 AM)

Yeah I know haha, I was waiting for all commander's answers.



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/7/2017 4:46:22 PM)

(Turn is done)
All commanders : Feel free to change the color of your armies as you will
Refer to previous orders in my previous message to see your objectives

Northern Commander

You have received the 32nd Army and 33rd Army as reinforcement (X99,Y41). Along with 2 extra Infantry Div. and 2 Extra Cavalry Div ( put inside both armies )
You are free to move them to your front lines and assigned them to your HQ
The Tank and Mechanized div. were held back. They will not be coming to reinforce the North.


Central Commander.

The entire 20th Army (X88,Y58) and 21st Army(X89,Y64), (along with 2 tank Div. and 1 mechanized ( placed into 21st army )) has been put to your disposal. Assign them to your HQ and use them as you see fit.
The 30th army will also join your ranks, although it only has 1 infantry Div. for now. The Orel military District (X103,Y64) was also put to your disposal.
Do not let the road to Moscow be captured.

Take the peasant and build a few fortification along the Rzhev-Kaluga line. Stop the invaders there !
If Smolensk and Vyazma were to fall. Retreat to defend the Rzhev - Kaluga Line. Then proceed to defend the Tula - Orel line.


Southern Commander :

You have been given command of all Stavka Reserve in your area of operation ( everything south, under the axis limit line is yours ) . Assign to HQ of your choice. Keep in mind, some of these units are refitting.
Keep holding Odessa. Prepare defense in Sevastopol with your reinforcement would be my suggestion. But do as you see fit.



wallas -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/7/2017 8:30:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

(Turn is done)




I will do the air turn when I get home and update the file. Roughly 8 hours from time I posted this.



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/8/2017 2:01:22 PM)

And by the way guys,

I want to say Im sorry it took me a while to come back.



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/8/2017 9:38:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

(Turn is done)
All commanders : Feel free to change the color of your armies as you will
Refer to previous orders in my previous message to see your objectives




Mine are all Red, of course [8D]

BTW, we should update the game as new beta patches come out, right?



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/9/2017 3:22:46 AM)

Im not sure, ask Telemescus, he should have an answer to that.

Edit : Damn it, I wanted Stavka to be red and yellow :P hahaha. Il keep white then.



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/11/2017 7:17:44 PM)

Alright so, Supreme and Air turn has been completed. Its now up to Drakken whenever he has time.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/12/2017 5:03:50 PM)

My turn will be done this afternoon.



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/12/2017 5:30:46 PM)

No stress



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/12/2017 5:52:29 PM)

I am torn between maintaining the line as it is - or abandoning the river for a few hexes back



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/12/2017 7:21:36 PM)

hhm.... Id say, try to keep as much ground as possible, but in the end, its up to you.



WingedIncubus -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/14/2017 3:53:35 AM)

Centre done for Turn 5.



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/14/2017 6:11:31 AM)

I'll do mine tomorrow.



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/14/2017 5:52:47 PM)

Did we get an allocation of AP and rail cap?

Can I rail my new armies to the front? I notice that a couple of divisions in each army have few or no MP's left. Maybe I could leave those divisions for the Moscow defense area and get a few other divisions instead? Like some of the reinforcements coming in from Siberia?



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/14/2017 9:49:11 PM)

OK, all done. As requested, I left a corps in Pskov and Velikie Luki to slow the fascist infantry down. I used about 20000 rail cap to move those two armies you gave me up into position (or at least part of them). I hesitate to sound overconfident, but I think my position looks good. I used 10 AP to create some support units and shift a few guys around from army to army.

If there are extra AP available, I'd like to replace the commander of 23rd Army with somebody who has a clue. If not, not a huge deal since the German armor is about to descend on him and hopefully after they get done with him the NKVD will [:'(]see the light and send him off to the undiscovered country. But I'd like to anticipate our friends the Chekists and get the job done before the Germans attack.

I have a good deal of extra command capacity now that you have given me those two armies so if you want me to take over some troops and extend my front to the south I can do it.



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/14/2017 11:12:15 PM)

edited.



Psych0 -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/15/2017 4:26:58 AM)

OK, South done. I did 2 counter attacks to get some wins for guards status eventually. Also isolated 2 panzer divs and bumped 2 panzer HQs so their southern spearhead won't have much fuel at all next turn.

Replaced 1 commander (18th army). 38th army is forming in Kharkov area on refit to put up a much stronger defence of the Dnepropetrovsk area next turn.

Odessa will require a major effort so that's German infantry that will show up much later along the Dnepr.

Also their rail heads seem to be 1 whole turn behind schedule, good news.

Comment about Pskov: in my humble opinion those units won't achieve anything, better to pull them back. We are very much short of units, so giving 2 away is not the way to go comrades. For the Motherland!



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/15/2017 4:37:05 AM)

About Pskov... The plan was to create a frontline from Leningrad to Pskov to Velikie Lukie to support Drakken's effort to protect Moscow's flank.
I dont know why Northern Commander retreated all the troops from there, to the exception of a few divisions.

The reinforcement you received was to help create that defensive frontline. As follow : https://imgur.com/a/nC32S
Because now, you just gave them a whole lot of ground that could have been defended and would have slowed them down several weeks.

The point of having Paratroopers left in the Forest behind Velikie lukie was to offer some sort of resistence if the enemy was to push trough that frontline, but now, there is no frontline at all. The enemy is free to encircle both Northern and Central Commanders.



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/15/2017 5:47:12 AM)

I can run my turn again if you prefer. I'll do it tomorrow. I believe that the German panzers in front of Luga would be able to drive to Leningrad or near it if I didn't get my infantry in the way, but if defending Pskov and Velikie Luki is more important than I'll do as I'm told. I read your orders as giving absolute priority to holding Leningrad.



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/15/2017 5:56:12 AM)

No, we will leave it as it is. Priority is for Leningrad to be hold but we cant afford the Germans trying to pierce trough our gap. I doubt they actually try to pierce trough over there simply because it would be impracticable for them.

The future will tell. If anything, prepare some reserve forces that will be ready to counter such a breakthrough.



Psych0 -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/15/2017 11:33:42 AM)

Why not add to your turn and save just those 2 units in Pskov by moving them NE?



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/15/2017 4:24:57 PM)

I'm sorry I didn't understand your idea. My sense is that by retreating as I did, the Germans will not be able to attack my guys effectively south of Lake Ladoga. The cost of moving through enemy hexes, plus the small screen of mobile units that I left out in front towards the north end of that line, means that they will be drastically slowed. So I get another turn to prepare for full-on attacks. Leaving a couple of divisions in the two towns is also about slowing the enemy at relatively low cost. We'll lose those units, but it will take a full-on attack by five or so German divisions, which will cost them 15 or so movement points, essentially stopping them in place for a turn. Actually, it could be two turns, because given that they have to move a few hexes to get to the towns (at least to Velikie Luki), they probably won't be able to conduct effective attacks this turn and will lose next turn as well to carry out the attacks. This is particularly true if Air Command can scrape up some transports to deliver supplies to those guys during next turn's air phase.

The only place where the Germans will be fully combat-effective in my region is in the Leningrad area, where their armored divisions (five of them, three panzer corps) are right up against my guys. That's why I put the majority of my troops inside the Luga-Novgorod line. I'm actually most concerned that I didn't do enough up there. I have a triple line, which is usually enough, but since my general at the northern end of that line (23rd army) is miserable in his morale rating, I'm afraid that his guys will rout instead of retreating when attacked by that X=X stack of panzers. That's why I requested that if we have enough AP left (11, I think), he be replaced by somebody with a decent morale rating.



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/15/2017 4:53:07 PM)

So if there's enough points left at the end, I'd appreciate it if you'd replace the 23rd Army commander for me. And if you think we should abandon Pskov, move those guys down to the Luga line while keeping them within 5 of their corps HQ (HQ could be repositioned as well).

And btw, where is my air support? All those airbases appear to be empty?



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/15/2017 4:57:50 PM)

Il answer the rest of your message in a little bit, but to answer the air support, there is no air support. They have all been transferred to the disposition of the Southern Commander as mention previously.

Our airplanes are taking a beating and so drastic measures had to be taken. Planes are being used to escort Recon planes and Recon planes are supposed to be active in the South.


EDIT : Alright, hum... Well, you are the Northern Commander. So you do as you will, as long as your objective are achieved.
Im thinking the Germans might, maybe, possibly, try to flank you and Drakken in that opening. As I mention, just make sure you get some divisions ready to support Drakken's flank and the paratroopers in the forest if they needs help because their whole defensive position was put in place with the idea that there would be people defending from Pskov to Velikie Lukie.

I will replace your General as asked. Decisions is up to you, in terms of leaving the troops in Pskov or moving them. I will wait your finale decision.




thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/16/2017 1:39:17 AM)

I'll keep the guys in Pskov. If he attacks successfully this turn they will just be routed. If he waits a turn, he waits a turn. If I get some new divisions next turn I'll fill in the two armies north of Velikie Luki. I'm not actually expecting it to fall either.



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/16/2017 1:45:22 AM)

Alright, I shall do the turn tonight or tomorrow during the day.



wallas -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/16/2017 1:49:38 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

Il answer the rest of your message in a little bit, but to answer the air support, there is no air support. They have all been transferred to the disposition of the Southern Commander as mention previously.

Our airplanes are taking a beating and so drastic measures had to be taken. Planes are being used to escort Recon planes and Recon planes are supposed to be active in the South.



I have posted earlier all air units but the recon are in reserve. This turn I flew recon as much as I could with what we have.



thedoctorking -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/16/2017 1:51:23 AM)

And if we lose a few divisions, what's one rat to the pack?



Neogodhobo -> RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. (11/16/2017 2:33:39 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

And if we lose a few divisions, what's one rat to the pack?



I dont consider the men under my commands to be rats living in an animal pack, commander, thank you very much. But your views on the soldiers of the Motherland are noted..



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