RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21)

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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/18/2018 1:31:35 PM)
Situation on 5/17/42 after 95 turns. The pocket near Moscow is almost destroyed. We are going to transfer several panzer units to the south. Case Blue is going to begin by the end of the month. Losses in the first 95 turns: (last 5 turns in parenthesis) [replacements in 5 turns] 56560 (+2989) Heavy Rifle Squads [repl 2155] 6637 (+355) Rifle Squad – Rum [repl 280] 2131 (+433) Rifle Squad – Hun [repl 155] 5054 (+63) Rifle Squad – Fin [repl 125] 934 (+155) Rifle Squad – Ita [repl 90] 8220 (+320) Engineer Squads [repl 225] 1647 (+194) Panzers (all types) [repl 350] 2351 (+92) Fighters (all types) [repl 295] 356 (+57) Stukas & Hs-129 [repl 75] 2518 (+27) Bombers (all types) [repl 105] Railroads are on the map in cyan. [image]local://upfiles/53085/B87A8BA1397340D98158CAC16BF10129.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/22/2018 10:27:31 AM)
Turn 95, 5/17/42, AGC The last remaining enemy pockets near Moscow are destroyed. 41st Panzer Korps is going to transfer near Kursk soon. We have captured Plavsk on the southern flank. [image]local://upfiles/53085/EEE2436FE6FA4DF68B31A681D926502A.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/22/2018 10:28:26 AM)
Turn 95, 5/17/42, AGS Kursk 25th Motorized Division crossed the Voronezh River. We are trying to surround the city. More reinforcements arrived by train. [image]local://upfiles/53085/76DD172D354F47A8B5AB8692DF6AA207.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/22/2018 10:29:48 AM)
Turn 95, 5/17/42, AGS Stalino 40th Panzer Korps captured Voroshilovgrad. We enveloped several enemy divisions near Izium. Our troops have moved to the east bank of Donets. We are resupplying our units. The summer offensive is about to begin soon. [image]local://upfiles/53085/EED6F2DBCF064C82B303DE5766B98D77.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/22/2018 10:40:12 AM)
Turn 97, 5/24/42, AGC Yelets bulge Here is the area between Tula and Voronezh. Our objective is to straighten the frontline. 2nd Panzer Armee is going to attack from north. Panzer divisions are going to attack to the flank of the enemy line and roll defenses all the way to Yelets. We have managed to encircle Voronezh. [image]local://upfiles/53085/435A505F303C450BADAD004716BB89F9.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/22/2018 10:57:17 AM)
Turn 97, 5/24/42, AGS Case Blue Our summer offensive is about to begin. The first objective is to surround and destroy the enemy forces in front of 6th Armee. Northern pincer, 4th Panzer Armee. Objectives are Valuyki, Rossosh and Novaya Pokrovka. Southern pincer, 1st Panzer Armee. Objectives are Kupyansk, Valuyki, Rossosh and Boguchar. Infantry is going to follow behind. It’s important to secure Oskol river line before the enemy units near Kharkov escape to East. [image]local://upfiles/53085/2F091EC181E0452598913A2F3A3F45CC.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/22/2018 11:52:26 AM)
Turn 98, 5/17/42, AGS Case Blue We have managed to surround several enemy armies between Kharkov and Oskol River. Panzer divisions advanced to the rear of the enemy. 2nd FJ regiment jumped near Rossosh and captured the town. The enemy made some counterattacks. Rossosh was lost, but the pocket is still sealed. Now we have to secure Oskol River line and move to Don River. 6th Armee is going to attack the pocket from West. [image]local://upfiles/53085/5C964DFD4C37407C9CC7F55157C805D2.jpg[/image]

piotre -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/22/2018 1:26:21 PM)
I had been missing your AAR. Thanks for sharing [:)]

Nicholas Bell -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/22/2018 8:31:06 PM)
That's one huge pocket you're forming Jukipo! You're making this look too easy. Can't see how the Soviet Union can survive the year. Thanks for your updates.

DanNeely -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/22/2018 11:15:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nicholas Bell That's one huge pocket you're forming Jukipo! You're making this look too easy. Can't see how the Soviet Union can survive the year. Thanks for your updates. Elmer never gives up. Assuming he doesn't declare the war not worth prosecuting farther first, even assuming Case Blue is a complete success I'd expect it'd take the entire 43 campaign season at a minimum to overrun the steppes beyond the Voronezh-Don river line, and to attack northeast out of Moscow to Vologda cutting the rail linkages to the armies to the east leaving them largely unsupplied and ready to be destroyed in the largest pocket of the game. The biggest largely unknown value is what remaining soviet production will look like at that point. Baseline Soviet production is high enough to keep feeding huge numbers of cannon fodder into an axis mincing machine.

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/23/2018 4:38:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: piotre I had been missing your AAR. Thanks for sharing [:)] It's great you have enjoyed my AAR!

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/23/2018 4:44:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DanNeely quote: ORIGINAL: Nicholas Bell That's one huge pocket you're forming Jukipo! You're making this look too easy. Can't see how the Soviet Union can survive the year. Thanks for your updates. Elmer never gives up. Assuming he doesn't declare the war not worth prosecuting farther first, even assuming Case Blue is a complete success I'd expect it'd take the entire 43 campaign season at a minimum to overrun the steppes beyond the Voronezh-Don river line, and to attack northeast out of Moscow to Vologda cutting the rail linkages to the armies to the east leaving them largely unsupplied and ready to be destroyed in the largest pocket of the game. The biggest largely unknown value is what remaining soviet production will look like at that point. Baseline Soviet production is high enough to keep feeding huge numbers of cannon fodder into an axis mincing machine. I agree. I can't wint the war this year. Even if I could somehow destroy all Soviet units, I could not build rail fast enough to reach Ural Mountains. I don't think it's possible to capture Baku in 1942. It's too far. Maybe I can reach Caspian Sea before rasputitsa...

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/23/2018 4:54:40 PM)
Turn 99, 5/31/42, AGC Moscow The enemy is attacking hard east of Moscow. We have to withdraw, then our panzers counterattack. Then the fronlineline is lost again… We are taking losses here. Tank losses are light, but I’m worried about infantry losses. Meanwhile near Dubna we are straightening the frontline. [image]local://upfiles/53085/762335EC9EAC459EBB71D79A50C5C5C5.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/23/2018 4:57:42 PM)
Turn 99, 5/31/42, AGC The enemy line is shattered near Plavsk. 2nd Panzer Armee is advancing South. Voronezh is captured. [image]local://upfiles/53085/9213E778EBCC485D984F26701BEE477D.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/23/2018 5:04:39 PM)
Turn 99, 5/31/42, AGS We have reached Don River near Boguchar. We have sealed the Oskol Riverline. The enemy is making some uncoordinated breakout attempts. 6th Armee is attacking from West. It’s only a matter of time before the pocket is destroyed. [image]local://upfiles/53085/084432C77FDF4F0BBD6BA05013C3B0F7.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/24/2018 1:23:43 PM)
Turn 99, 5/31/42, AGS 48th Panzer Korps captured Novaya Pokrovka. 6th Armee is advancing towards Oskol River. [image]local://upfiles/53085/1CAEA33271BE4EBDA43CE779F6E45A93.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/24/2018 1:44:03 PM)
Turn 100, 6/3/42, AGS The enemy Pocket is almost destroyed. Phase 1 of our offensive is completed. Now we are going to move our divisions near Voroshilovgrad and Millerovo. We have a railhead there, so the supply is good. Once they arrive, divisions are going to resupply before the offensive continues towards Stalingrad and Rostov. 16th Motorized Division is entrenching near Novaya Pokrovka. 8th Panzer Division is guarding Oskol River at Valuyki. We have got reinforcements, 24th Panzer Division arrived. [image]local://upfiles/53085/61D9C61F5F084DE69F2084D711D0D38E.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/24/2018 1:57:29 PM)
Turn 100, 6/3/42, AGC We have managed to surround 9 Soviet divisions and 2 tank brigades near Mitsensk. [image]local://upfiles/53085/85958E65EB884F0BB24481CD7D9C41B0.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/24/2018 3:18:50 PM)
Situation on 6/3/42 after 100 turns. Case Blue phase 1 completed. Now we are going to prepare for phase 2. Advance to Don bend and capture of Rostov. Losses in the first 100 turns: (last 5 turns in parenthesis) [replacements in 5 turns] 59105 (+2545) Heavy Rifle Squads [repl 2155] 6669 (+32) Rifle Squad – Rum [repl 280] 2186 (+55) Rifle Squad – Hun [repl 155] 5060 (+6) Rifle Squad – Fin [repl 125] 938 (+4) Rifle Squad – Ita [repl 90] 8466 (+246) Engineer Squads [repl 225] 1882 (+235) Panzers (all types) [repl 350] 2499 (+148) Fighters (all types) [repl 295] 442 (+86) Stukas & Hs-129 [repl 75] 2557 (+39) Bombers (all types) [repl 105] Railroads are on the map in cyan. [image]local://upfiles/53085/B6CD11EDF67141399CD92578BAA87E5B.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/25/2018 1:43:02 PM)
Turn 101, 6/7/42, AGC Verkhovye was captured. Surrounded enemy units near Mitsensk are soon destroyed. Advance continues towards Yelets. [image]local://upfiles/53085/3EC803F854F74C98BB19D02B12C68882.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/25/2018 1:48:44 PM)
Turn 101, 6/7/42, AGS All surrounded enemy units are now destroyed. Our armies are marching towards Millerovo. We have got Case Blue bonuses for the next 10 turns. Our shock is 120 and supply +10. Supply level is 40 on rails. [image]local://upfiles/53085/CE2CEC63A37540DD9F5427DB2F45E1D4.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/25/2018 1:53:16 PM)
Turn 102, 6/10/42, AGC Our offensive continues towards Yelets. The enemy is taking heavy losses. [image]local://upfiles/53085/49545FE4D2CA451C8F980BE4F3C7B37E.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/25/2018 1:58:00 PM)
Turn 102, 6/10/42, AGS The second phase of Case Blue is beginning. Our infantry is moving south. We have captured Krasnodon and Kemensk. Panzer divisions are resupplying near Millerovo. [image]local://upfiles/53085/E06693B925F34DA883EE0C35F278FEF8.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/25/2018 2:01:53 PM)
Turn 103, 6/14/42, AGC The enemy front shatters between Livny and Yefremov. There is nothing to stop us capturing Yelets. We are going to surround the enemy units north of Kastornoye. [image]local://upfiles/53085/F5214C554ED6476D98D07B976C8A8FF2.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/25/2018 2:12:00 PM)
Turn 103, 6/14/42, AGS We have captured Shakhty, Belaya Kilitva and Morozovsk. There are very few enemy units in the area. We can move forward almost unopposed. Most of our panzer troops are still resupplying near Millerovo. 6th Armee is marching SE. They are going to arrive Millerovo next week. We got reinforcements, Grossdeutschland Panzergrenadier Division arrived near Stalino. [image]local://upfiles/53085/EDA9619F32AD4C35849524FEAD7BC590.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/27/2018 2:49:59 PM)
Turn 105, 6/21/42 AGC Yelets was captured and we managed to surround and destroy all enemy units between Kastornoye and Yelets. [image]local://upfiles/53085/ABA7ECB3707F423D8E1E8E402F99CEC4.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/27/2018 3:01:49 PM)
Turn 105, 6/21/42 AGS We have reached Don River near Rostov. Our infantry is on the gates of Rostov. We have surrounded enemy troops defending Mius River Line. Our panzer divisions are going to cross Don near Konstantinovsk. Most of the 1st Panzer Armee is resupplying near Kemensk. Meanwhile 4th Panzer Armee is moving slowly towards Stalingrad. [image]local://upfiles/53085/5E404A6402FA4915A78861EC9A15D405.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/27/2018 3:31:26 PM)
Situation Case Blue 6/21/1942 We have divided Armygroup South in two parts. Armygroup A (1st PzA, 11th A, 17th A) is going to attack south towards Caucasus mountains. Armygroup B (4th PzA, 6th A) is going to capture Stalingrad. Next objectives are Don bridges near Kalach. [image]local://upfiles/53085/255FDFD132DE45D1AA5B4BF61936A421.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/27/2018 5:13:55 PM)
Situation AGC 6/21/1942 We have now straightened the frontline between Tula and Voronezh. The enemy suffered massive losses near Yelets. Most of the troops between Tula and Voronezh have been destroyed. Our new objective is Moscow-Ryazan-Chaplygin-Voronezh line. [image]local://upfiles/53085/D8535B5B640E41678BE443A0FA23452F.jpg[/image]

Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/28/2018 6:30:58 PM)
Situation on 6/21/42 after 105 turns. Losses in the first 105 turns: (last 5 turns in parenthesis) [replacements in 5 turns] 61074 (+1969) Heavy Rifle Squads [repl 2155] 6816 (+147) Rifle Squad – Rum [repl 280] 2376 (+190) Rifle Squad – Hun [repl 155] 5090 (+30) Rifle Squad – Fin [repl 125] 938 (+0) Rifle Squad – Ita [repl 90] 8684 (+218) Engineer Squads [repl 225] 1964 (+82) Panzers (all types) [repl 410] 2681 (+182) Fighters (all types) [repl 295] 488 (+46) Stukas & Hs-129 [repl 75] 2652 (+95) Bombers (all types) [repl 105] [image]local://upfiles/53085/FA3A9A90BFDC448F9838C2A33BA9D7EA.jpg[/image]

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