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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/13/2018 10:53:15 AM)

Turn 79, 3/22/42 AGS

Stalino

The frontline is stabilizing before rasputitsa. Rail repair work has been fast in the past weeks. Supply situation is improving.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/13/2018 11:10:15 AM)

Situation on 3/25/42 after 80 turns.

Rasputitsa is just around the corner.

Losses in the first 80 turns: (last 5 turns in parenthesis) [replacements in 5 turns]

53002 (+3588) Heavy Rifle Squads [repl 2155]
6213 (+436) Rifle Squad – Rum [repl 280]
1698 (+678) Rifle Squad – Hun [repl 155]
4931 (+275) Rifle Squad – Fin [repl 125]
688 (+229) Rifle Squad – Ita [repl 90]
7826 (+548) Engineer Squads [repl 225]
1408 (+90) Panzers (all types) [repl 290]
2041 (+141) Fighters (all types) [repl 135]
280 (+30) Stukas & Hs-129 [repl 75]
2305 (+170) Bombers (all types) [repl 105]

Railroads are on the map in cyan.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/14/2018 10:53:52 AM)

Turn 85, 4/12/42 AGN and AGC

We are in the middle of spring raputitsa. Luftwaffe has been active harassing the enemy supply lines. We have blown railroad bridges at Bezhetsk and Kalyazin. 5th Brandenburger company jumped near Zagorsk to sabotage railroad line supplying troops in the Moscow bulge.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/14/2018 11:12:51 AM)

Turn 85, 4/12/42 AGS

Rail repair has been fast during the last weeks. Only a little more work and we’ll have continuous line from Moscow to the Black Sea.

Losses in the first 85 turns: (last 5 turns in parenthesis) [replacements in 5 turns]

53281 (+280) Heavy Rifle Squads [repl 2155]
6249 (+36) Rifle Squad – Rum [repl 280]
1698 (+0) Rifle Squad – Hun [repl 155]
4938 (+7) Rifle Squad – Fin [repl 125]
775 (+87) Rifle Squad – Ita [repl 90]
7869 (+43) Engineer Squads [repl 225]
1428 (+20) Panzers (all types) [repl 325]
2154 (+113) Fighters (all types) [repl 135]
288 (+8) Stukas & Hs-129 [repl 75]
2366 (+61) Bombers (all types) [repl 105]



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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/14/2018 12:07:08 PM)

Turn 90, 4/29/1942

Rasputitsa is over. It's time to start a new season. Let's take a look about the inventory of the most important weapon systems.

Typical German infantry division is about 90% strength. I have over 41000 HRS.

Panzer divisions are in very good shape. I have about 7000 panzers.

My artillery is at full strength and I have a good surplus of tubes on hand.

Fighter squadrons are at full strength.

I have lost too many level bombers.

I have lost too much Finnish Rifle Squads. Typical Finnish division is only 70% strength.


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DanNeely -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/14/2018 10:20:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jukipo

Turn 90, 4/29/1942

Rasputitsa is over. It's time to start a new season. Let's take a look about the inventory of the most important weapon systems.

Typical German infantry division is about 90% strength. I have over 41000 HRS.

Panzer divisions are in very good shape. I have about 7000 panzers.

My artillery is at full strength and I have a good surplus of tubes on hand.

Fighter squadrons are at full strength.

I have lost too many level bombers.

I have lost too much Finnish Rifle Squads. Typical Finnish division is only 70% strength.



Are you planning on doing anything offensive with the Finns (I don't think I've seen any screenshots from their eastern border); or are they just digging in all along the front line for the indefinite future?

How're your other allies doing?




larryfulkerson -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/14/2018 10:31:24 PM)

Have you made any plans for Stalingrad?




Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/15/2018 10:36:26 AM)

quote:

Are you planning on doing anything offensive with the Finns (I don't think I've seen any screenshots from their eastern border); or are they just digging in all along the front line for the indefinite future?


Finnish eastern border... It's difficult to advance any further.

In the far north near Murmansk I had to withdraw back to Litsa River. Now the enemy is low on supply and we are at stalemate.

The enemy is too strong near Alakurtti. It's just impossible to advance. We would lose hundreds of squads just to try.

In March two finnish divisions advanced near Kochkoma. We would need 2-3 divisions more to cut Murmansk rail and advance to Belomorsk.

I have just enough troops to hold Svir River line. There is nothing to gain south of Svir.

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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/15/2018 10:44:17 AM)

quote:

How're your other allies doing?


Rumanians have lost about 6300 squads. They have received replacements 5000 squads. So the net loss is about 1300 squads. Overall I think they are in good shape.

I have 736 Hungarian and 879 Italian replacements on hand, so they are at full strength.




Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/15/2018 11:09:30 AM)

4/28/1942 Berlin

Case Blue is our plan for the strategic summer offensive. We are going to deliver the final decisive strike to end this war. The objectives are Caucasus oil fields at Maykop, Grozny and Baku. At the same time, we are going to capture Stalingrad and secure Volga River line.

The offensive is going to proceed in 5 phases:

Phase 1. We are going to encircle and destroy enemy troops near the frontline.
Phase 2. Advance to Don bend and capture of Rostov
Phase 3. Stalingrad, Krasnodar and Maykop are captured
Phase 4. Advance to the Caspian Sea
Phase 5. Baku and Astrakhan

AGC is going to straighten the frontline between Tula and Voronezh.

We can’t begin the offensive until the situation near Moscow is resolved. Planned start date of the offensive is late May, early June.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/15/2018 11:32:32 AM)

Turn 87, 4/19/42, AGC

19th Panzer Division captures a bridge over Moscow River. Rasputitsa continues, but Moscow area is well supplied.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/15/2018 11:33:15 AM)

Turn 90, 4/29/42, AGC

Offensive operations are again possible due to dry ground. Our panzer divisions breakthrough the enemy line east of Moscow. Zagorsk is captured. Our next goal is to seal the pocket by joining hands between Dimitrov and Zagorsk.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/15/2018 11:39:16 AM)

Turn 90, 4/29/42, AGS

Kursk

During the last days of rasputitsa we have been probing towards Voronezh. 23rd PD arrived by train.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/15/2018 11:52:14 AM)

Turn 90, 4/29/42, AGS

Stalino

We captured a bridgehead over Donets River near Izium. It’s a good position to begin our panzer drive to the rear of the enemy.

Meanwhile near Gorlovka our infantry is slowly moving forward towards Voroshilovgrad. Idea is to soften the enemy line before breakthrough. 40th Panzer Korps is refitting at Gorlovka.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/15/2018 12:14:58 PM)

Turn 91, 5/3/42, AGC

The Pocket is closed! We have enveloped several enemy armies near Moscow.

Surrounded troops include 17 divisions, 31 brigades, 16 tank brigades, 6 artillery brigades, 5 Army HQs, Moscow Front HQ and STAVKA.

80cm Dora RR artillery arrived by train to soften the pocket.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/15/2018 12:27:23 PM)

Turn 91, 5/3/42, AGS

Kursk

We are slowly pushing forward on our southern flank. 48th Panzer Korps is resting near Voronezh. We are waiting for reinforcements from the Moscow front before we can launch the summer offensive.


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DanNeely -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/16/2018 12:59:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jukipo

quote:

Are you planning on doing anything offensive with the Finns (I don't think I've seen any screenshots from their eastern border); or are they just digging in all along the front line for the indefinite future?


Finnish eastern border... It's difficult to advance any further.

In the far north near Murmansk I had to withdraw back to Litsa River. Now the enemy is low on supply and we are at stalemate.

The enemy is too strong near Alakurtti. It's just impossible to advance. We would lose hundreds of squads just to try.

In March two finnish divisions advanced near Kochkoma. We would need 2-3 divisions more to cut Murmansk rail and advance to Belomorsk.

I have just enough troops to hold Svir River line. There is nothing to gain south of Svir.



Is having your entire front line be behind a super-river really worth holding that far south? A line just north of Petrozavodsk-Viteli along the lakes would only need garrisoning about half as many hexes which could shake loose the few divisions needed to roll the Soviets up along the rail line.




Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/16/2018 4:48:21 PM)

quote:

Is having your entire front line be behind a super-river really worth holding that far south? A line just north of Petrozavodsk-Viteli along the lakes would only need garrisoning about half as many hexes which could shake loose the few divisions needed to roll the Soviets up along the rail line.


Railroad line to north goes through Petrozavodsk. If I lose the town I can't supply troops near Kochkoma. I think I'm going to keep Svir line and try to find troops somewhere else. I have three finnish divisions near Volkhov. I have to think about it... Anyway, this is a secondary front. Case Blue is our main offensive this summer.




Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/16/2018 5:00:47 PM)

Turn 92, 5/6/42, AGC

We are reducing the pocket near Moscow. We have to take it out fast. Troops are needed for Case Blue.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/16/2018 5:12:12 PM)

Turn 92, 5/6/42, AGS

Kursk

Our supply railroad goes through Kastornoye. The northern frontline is too close. Hungarians couldn’t advance without the help of 23rd PzD.

Meanwhile our southern flank is advancing towards Novy Oskol.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/16/2018 5:18:59 PM)

Turn 92, 5/6/42, AGS

Stalino

The frontline is moving slowly towards Voroshilovgrad.

Slovianohirsk was captured.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/17/2018 3:24:34 PM)

Turn 93, 5/10/42, AGC

Our divisions are facing stiff resistance when attacking the pocket. We have lost in these battles about 400 HRS this turn. I hope we can finish them off in a week. I don’t want to postpone Case Blue too much.

Zagorsk was captured again.

There was an initiative shift this turn, I got two turns in a row.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/17/2018 3:38:05 PM)

Turn 93, 5/10/42, AGS

Kursk

OKH is sending reinforcements for Case Blue, three infantry divisions arrive by train.

We are pushing the southern flank forward.

I noticed Bautruppen are not receiving any replacements when embarked. Units had suffered over 30% pestilence losses during the winter. I disembarked all units this turn.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/17/2018 3:59:36 PM)

Turn 93, 5/10/42, AGS

Stalino

The enemy frontline shatters near Voroshilovgrad. There is an 80 km wide gap in the frontline. SS Wiking division captures a bridge over Donets River.

Meanwhile 13th PzD attacks over Donets and captures Krasny Liman. We have now three bridgeheads over Donets. We have enveloped 5 rifle divisions and 5 tank brigades near Kramatorsk.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/17/2018 4:15:04 PM)

Turn 94, 5/13/42, AGC

Initiative shifts again, two turns for Elmer. The picture shows Soviet counterattacks around Moscow on turns 93 and 94. 330th ID took over 50% losses this week.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/17/2018 4:24:15 PM)

Turn 94, 5/13/42, AGC

Tula

The enemy is attacking south of Tula. 1st GD went berserk. They penetrated our lines and drove all the way to the rear of 2nd Panzer Armee. Let’s see what happens when full strength 7th PzD counterattacks…

The enemy took heavy losses, several units evaporated. Now it’s time for our counterattack.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/17/2018 4:31:53 PM)

Turn 94, 5/13/42, AGS

Kursk

The enemy is attacking hard against Kastornoye on out north flank. Hungarians can’t hold the line.

At the same time 16th Motorized division comes under attack from Voronezh.

Meanwhile there is another attack near Novy Oskol. Our infantry withdraws.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/18/2018 9:40:43 AM)

Turn 95, 5/17/42, AGC

The pocket near Moscow was divided in two parts. The end is near, we expect to destroy remaining units in next few days. 8th PzD is waiting for train to Kursk.

Meanwhile the enemy is taking heavy losses near Tula. Our counterattack is about to begin. We are going to attack south towards Plavsk.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/18/2018 10:00:04 AM)

Turn 95, 5/17/42, AGS

Kursk

The enemy is weak on the southern flank. Now it would be a perfect time to start Case Blue. The only problem is we don’t have enough panzer divisions on hand. We’ll have to move troops fast from Moscow before the opportunity goes away. 4th Panzer Armee HQ arrived by train.


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Jukipo -> RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) (2/18/2018 10:05:50 AM)

Turn 95, 5/17/42, AGS

Stalino

There is a 100 km wide gap in the front. We could move to the enemy rear. The problem is our northern pincer is not ready. We’ll have to wait.


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