RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)

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jwolf -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/14/2020 12:22:03 PM)
Will an invasion of Luzon activate Kamikazes? Or has that happened already?

BBfanboy -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/14/2020 1:10:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jwolf Will an invasion of Luzon activate Kamikazes? Or has that happened already? Even if the distance criterion is met, there is no activation before 1944.

jwolf -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/14/2020 1:56:35 PM)
Ah, I forgot about the date restriction. Thanks.

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/15/2020 5:54:43 AM)
30 Oct 43 10 Vals flew from Davao to attack cargo shipping at Dumanquilas. Ranged CAP from Oriquieta shot down all of the bombers before they could drop. Looked like an oversight on OPilot's part. They've probably been set up to fly all along, and now I came close enough. Except that most of the Japanese fighters on Mindanao have been cleared out. Manado was finally cleared out. Most troops there will rest up for Ternate. Palembang's last enemy unit, the 11th Division, is still be reduced. Another 576 casualties today. Oddly, it's not showing out of supply any longer. I've had CAP up. Could only be enemy subs bringing in supply, but I doubt it. There's enemy mines that are harmful to both sides, since I captured the base. May be just a fluke of whether you get the modifier or not. First probing attack at Wuchow. Chinese attack today. More troops headed in from the north. An enemy division in nearby woods is now headed south towards Canton. Heavy Allied LRCAP over Wuchow. Ground combat at Wuchow (76,57) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 21666 troops, 109 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 742 Defending force 1434 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 53 Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 60th Chinese Corps 3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps 39th Group Army Defending units: 20th RGC Division I've had two P-38 units in northern China, not doing much now that the short-lived Sian offensive is over. They flew to Kweilin today, and will fly to Jolo tomorrow. They'll come in handy with the advance towards Luzon. Did the first recon of Manila. Lots of aircraft and ships. Only about a division's worth of troops. If that. Lots of units, probably base support. I plan on being there by the end of December.

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/16/2020 6:21:03 AM)
31 Oct 43 A mixed nation force of cruisers bombarded Cotabato. The enemy II/124th Battalion is moving out of the hex. With AE/AKEs moving to Jolo, the ships can be rearmed quickly. The enemy did move out of Cotabato, so I'm loading an unprepped amphtrac unit at Zamboanga to land at Cotabato. It will take the empty base, then a division will go to Cotabato instead of Oriquieta. Wahoo hit AG Tsukikawa Maru with a torpedo near Boac, presumably sinking the support ship. Franks swept Palembang from Singapore. Thunderbolts and Hellcats flew ranged CAP from the adjacent base. The Franks did well, shooting down 8 Hellcats and 8 Thunderbolts. Then 39 Franks swept again in the afternoon, followed by Sallys with Tojos and Zeros. Despite all the fuss, the Allied troops attacked and caused another 1664 casualties, with 210 destroyed squads. The enemy 11th Division is still holding on, but the end is near. US carriers are done with refits at Colombo, but have to wait for a battleship to finish. It has 2 days to go. Enemy air was heavy over the fight at Wuchow in China. First 42 Franks swept. I had parts of 4 squadrons flying LRCAP over Wuchow, but they got massacred, with no Franks being shot down. Hurricanes, P-40s and the first appearance of the P-51A Mustangs. They did terrible. They'll regroup and I'll take a look at bringing in elite pilots for the Mustangs. 36 Oscars came in next, but only one Hurricane remained. Sallys and Helens then bombed the troops. 505 casualties in clear terrain. Then 36 Sonias caused 313 casualties. Total air losses were 12 Franks and 2 Tojos for the cost of 9 P-40Ks, 7 P-51As, 6 P-40Ns, 6 Hurricanes, 8 F6F-3s and 8 P-47s. The Chinese finally took a city back. Ground combat at Wuchow (76,57) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 21297 troops, 109 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1967 Defending force 1428 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 52 Allied adjusted assault: 142 Japanese adjusted defense: 15 Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 3) Allied forces CAPTURE Wuchow !!! Combat modifiers Defender: forts(+), leaders(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 410 casualties reported Squads: 8 destroyed, 27 disabled Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 6 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled) Units retreated 1 Allied ground losses: 40 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 60th Chinese Corps 11th Chinese Corps 98th Chinese Corps 43rd Chinese Corps 3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps 39th Group Army Defending units: 20th RGC Division [image]local://upfiles/6549/CC361511E7E24A5A980758C36563F726.gif[/image]

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/17/2020 7:16:09 AM)
1 Nov 43 Enemy air attacked Chengtu in northern China. OPilot noticed that I had fewer fighters there than normal, having sent some south for the fight around Wuchow. Chengtu has industry worth hitting. Oscars swept against Chinese P-40s and P-43s. Even results. 25 Sallys with 12 Oscars arrived, and some bombers were shot down. Minimal runway damage and the industry was not targeted. At Wuchow, 36 Franks swept in the morning, and found a tougher LRCAP than yesterday. Today it had 24 Hurricanes, 20 P-38Hs and 14 P-40Ns. Still, the Franks did extremely well. They did end up losing more planes to ops losses though. 20 Sallys with 36 Oscars arrived, and a few were shot down. Moderate airbase damage. Then 5 Sallys with 20 Helens, and no escort. More bombers shot down, and light airbase damage. Then 5 Helens and 33 Sonias. Moderate base damage. Then 27 Oscars sweeping, and getting the better of the few Allied fighters still flying. I've given up trying to base aircraft at Wuchow. The base is badly damaged, and it's difficult to get supply in. It will be the forward easy target for the enemy. The Chinese troops will continue advancing through Wuchow, leaving a minimal force there to be targeted. Total air losses for the day were 14 Oscars, 14 Sallys, 11 Franks and 8 Helens for the cost of 11 Hurricanes, 6 Chinese P-40Es, 5 P-40Ns and 5 P-38Hs. The Lightnings will stay at Kweiyang and defend today, and will then redeploy to Jolo or Zamboanga. Ongoing cleanup at Palembang. Another 2750 casualties with 158 destroyed squads from the enemy 11th Division. I thought today would be the end of the resistance, but it was not. Can't be many men left.

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/18/2020 4:58:30 AM)
2 Nov 43 Plunger missed sub transport SST Yu-4 with 2 torpedoes east of Mindanao. Destroyer O'Brien sank midget sub Ha-27 at Oroquieta. Oroquieta has had lots of transport shipping, but the sub was discovered quickly. Enemy naval strike from Singapore. Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Oosthaven at 48,96 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 36 G4M1 Betty x 18 Allied aircraft F6F-3 Hellcat x 1 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged No Allied losses Allied Ships xAK Waimea, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAK Iron Prince xAK Macedon xAK Historian I was lucky to just lose one ship. Lots of xAPs just arrived there to pick up a US division. The Hellcat squadron had been mauled over Palembang and went to Oosthaven to mostly rest. OPilot may have wanted to go after some xAPs on the other side of Sumatra, near Padang. They were going to an island nearby that got taken with the invasion but was not needed. But the ships weren't seen today, and the closest ships that were spotted were at Oosthaven. I put more fighters at Oosthaven today. Finally, Palembang is clear. Ground combat at Palembang (48,91) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 30642 troops, 591 guns, 788 vehicles, Assault Value = 914 Defending force 3147 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Allied adjusted assault: 679 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 679 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-) supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3367 casualties reported Squads: 34 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 222 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 37 (37 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Allied ground losses: Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled) Assaulting units: 2nd British Division 254th Armoured Brigade 5th Indian Division 80th Base Group 77th Heavy AA Regiment 13th Indian Light AA Regiment 6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment Defending units: 11th Division Most of the troops in the Palembang area start to rest and prepare for a possible Mersing invasion. Just a consideration at this point. The British would have wanted to do so, given the current situation. I may also, but we'll see. Allied carriers leave Balikpapan today, but just finished refueling and won't get far today. They'll move north for the next operation, along with invasion shipping. And the 6 US carriers at Colombo leave today, escorting invasion shipping for Sabang. Most of the punch for Sabang will be paratroopers from the Andamans. British battleships and cruisers will support. The Sabang operation's goal is to move to Medan and capture one of the few oil production centers still in enemy hands. US carriers will head to Java after the Sabang op.

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/19/2020 2:49:42 AM)
3 Nov 43 RO-103 was probably sunk near the east coast of Borneo. It had found a small transport force, but KV Auricula found it. Dragonet missed xAK Anyo Maru with 4 torpedoes near Shanghai. Sealion missed a big transport, xAP Miike Maru, also near Shanghai. Plunger's captain declined to fire at AG Columbia Maru near Legaspi. Then the captain changed his mind and fired 2 torpedoes at the small support ship. Both hit, but one was a dud. The ship was probably sunk. Nicks attacked Chinese troops just east of Changsha, in the woods. Then the enemy attacked. Ground combat at 83,52 (near Changsha) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 53660 troops, 422 guns, 44 vehicles, Assault Value = 1639 Defending force 48329 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1666 Japanese adjusted assault: 1159 Allied adjusted defense: 1777 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 3535 casualties reported Squads: 9 destroyed, 146 disabled Non Combat: 37 destroyed, 38 disabled Engineers: 23 destroyed, 17 disabled Vehicles lost 10 (8 destroyed, 2 disabled) Allied ground losses: 1117 casualties reported Squads: 9 destroyed, 219 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled Guns lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled) Assaulting units: 2nd Ind Engineer Regiment 6th Division 39th Division 58th Division 3rd Division 27th Ind Engineer Regiment 51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion 11th Army 52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion Defending units: 4th Chinese Corps 82nd Chinese Corps 91st Chinese Corps 19th Group Army Between Cagayan and Oriquieta, on Mindanao, US forces attacked a small unit that had come from Cotabato. The unit was crushed, forcing it to Cagayan. Now I see movement from Cagayan to Malaybalay, which is the mountainous interior base. I'd like to get there first, so the Australian paras that captured Oriquieta are ordered to drop on Malaybalay. No recon has been done there, so it's unknown what the Australians will find. The 2 divisions will advance to Cagayan. Other troops are coming from Oriquieta. Troops for Davao are landing at Cotabato. Airfields are building nicely. Basialan and Oriquieta just reached size 2 airfields. Zamboanga became a size 3 airfield. Bombers are moved into the area to help support. [image]local://upfiles/6549/34E2296D852140B9B5368134FA5B6A6E.gif[/image]

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/20/2020 4:36:33 AM)
4 Nov 43 US destroyers bombarded Cagayan and returned to Jolo. The 10th Garrison Unit and the previously defeated part of a battalion are there, and at least one unit shows movement to Malaybalay. Badly damaged RO-103 ran into northbound invasion transports near Donggala. The sub was on the surface from the beginning. It was a scary thing to watch, with the xAPs engaging the sub with guns, and the sub sometimes firing torpedoes at the ships. Luckily, no torpedoes hit, and the sub was sunk. Harder got a torpedo hit on xAK Takaoika Maru near Taihoku. 38 Franks swept Wuchow. Only damaged fighters on the ground, unable to repair with no ground support. Then 24 Oscars swept. 25 P-38s swept Malaybalay, finding no enemy fighters, and clearing the way for the para drop. With an increased offensive posture for the US fighters, the CAP over the Allied shipping was weakened, and weakened more than I noticed ahead of time. The enemy went after cargo ships unloading supply at Dumanquilas. Ranged CAP was far less than what I thought would be there. Morning Air attack on TF, near Dumanquilas at 77,89 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 9 D4Y1 Judy x 18 G4M1 Betty x 27 Allied aircraft P-40K Warhawk x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed No Allied losses Allied Ships xAK Mahukona xAK Arizonan xAK Crown City xAK Canadian, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Carolinian, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Puerto Rican, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Santa Anna, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Mathew Luckenbach xAK J.L. Luckenbach, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Alabaman xAK Panaman Two ships sank. Two others are badly burning but will try to get to Zamboanga. Another is moderately damaged. The enemy went after the task force that was the most weakly protected, but it was also the least important one. Part of a division is unloading at Cotabato nearby, with lots of xAPs. That would have been far worse. OPilot was lucky to move into Davao and strike today, when I had P-47s and P-38s sweeping. Davao was swept and had no CAP, but the US bombers didn't fly due to weather. Davao was where all the enemy planes came from. He boldly moved fighters back in and was lucky how it worked out. OPilot may have hoped that the bombers would go to Cotabato, as he did sweep there with 27 Zeros. There were 17 Corsairs there on CAP. 8 Zeros were shot down for the cost of just one Corsair. The Chinese continue to get heavily bombed at and near Wuchow. I won't continue to state this. Assume that it will continue for the near future. Lots of clear terrain to go through in the effort to move around Canton and maybe push to Hong Kong. Australian paras did drop on Malaybalay and captured the empty enemy base in the mountains. I'll try to fly the rest of the battalion in today, along with parts of an engineer regiment and a mortar unit. Fighters will sweep to protect the transports again. No surprise there today.

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/21/2020 5:58:36 PM)
5 Nov 43 Good bombardment by 8 mixed force cruisers against Iloilo. Sonias and Dinahs damaged and major airbase destruction. Good to damage this large airbase, which is in range of today's big operation. Sub Dragonet hit AK Kaga Maru with a torpedo near Taihoku. B-24s from Java hit Singkawang on northwestern Borneo for the first time. They found a big squadron of Franks. A few bombers were lost, and damage to the airbase was light. No operations planned in this area, but might as well seem to show interest. The Chinese were expected to win the fight northwest of Canton, going up against the already defeated 20th RGC Division. But it wasn't expected that a fresh division would move in. But the Chinese prevailed anyhow. It didn't hurt to have a British armor unit there. It made the long journey over the Burma Road. The map shows my dilemma around Canton. [image]local://upfiles/6549/C47F8121A0E648E7A0056539D58DDE5B.gif[/image]

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/21/2020 5:59:08 PM)
5 Nov 43 - Sumatra [image]local://upfiles/6549/EF03A63389AC40C5BE7EE277AF3FBAEA.gif[/image]

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/21/2020 5:59:38 PM)
5 Nov 43 - Philippines [image]local://upfiles/6549/DC4DE9F0B61240DA8DD0112A6971F3A6.gif[/image]

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/22/2020 2:53:29 AM)
No turn today. OPilot needs some extra time for this turn. Understandable, with landings southwest of Luzon, paras dropping onto northern Sumatra, and the Chinese charging ahead in clear terrain in southern China. Looking forward to tomorrow.

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/22/2020 11:33:52 PM)
6 Nov 43 Shark hit CM Katsuriki with a torpedo near Bataan. Audio says that the ship sank after combat. Sealion hit tanker Ogura Maru #3 with a torpedo near Ningpo. Audio again implies that the ship was sunk. Taytay, Puerto Princesa and Balabac were invaded by US troops. The four US Fletcher class destroyers sped northbound past Balabac, setting up a patrol to the north of Borneo. They found just a single subchaser, and sank Ch 24 during the day. The destroyers were not spotted by air during the daylight. And on the run to the north, they may have just missed enemy destroyers that ended up just north of Balabac. But the enemy ended up in range of Allied carriers. Morning Air attack on TF, near Balabac at 69,83 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft F6F-3 Hellcat x 12 SBD-5 Dauntless x 36 Allied aircraft losses SBD-5 Dauntless: 5 damaged Japanese Ships DD Suzunami DD Fujinami, Bomb hits 1 DD Takanami DD Tamanami Disappointing results in bad weather. The enemy could now hit any of the new invasion spots, including adjacent hex Balabac. The 3 APAs there are ordered to flee but it's not known if they can move out of the hex before the enemy moves in, if both are at full speed. I expect that the enemy will arrive first. British Liberator IIs bombed Davao's port, sinking RO-36. Other bombers hit the airfield, doing minimal damage. No enemy CAP. On Sumatra, Indian paras dropped on Langsa, capturing the unguarded base. Bombers had hit the airfield and also hit Sabang. In China, most of the enemy bombers hit Wuchow's airfield. And there were a lot of them. A first attack at Cagayan gets poor odds but with good results. Another infantry division has since arrived, and the US troops are ordered to shock attack today. Southeast of Chiang Mai, a big Chinese corp mauls the only enemy unit still there. Ground combat at 59,54 (near Chiang Mai) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 26023 troops, 179 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 847 Defending force 1168 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 49 Allied adjusted assault: 240 Japanese adjusted defense: 4 Allied assault odds: 60 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 632 casualties reported Squads: 26 destroyed, 33 disabled Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 12 (8 destroyed, 4 disabled) Units retreated 1 Allied ground losses: 116 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 6th Chinese Corps 134th Field Artillery Battalion 3rd (Special Force) Division Defending units: 4th INA Nehru Regiment It's a bit of a slow motion offensive here for the Allies. Tying down troops though, although most are retreating in front of the Chinese. [image]local://upfiles/6549/A230906A8D2F4D44925F065E95001C78.gif[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/23/2020 5:47:56 AM)
Can your TF at Balabac create some PTs from supply?

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/23/2020 4:14:26 PM)
Balabac hasn't been captured yet. It will be today. PT boats are created from the base, not the TF. I'll have more PTs in the area soon.

BBfanboy -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/23/2020 8:16:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: apbarog Balabac hasn't been captured yet. It will be today. PT boats are created from the base, not the TF. I'll have more PTs in the area soon. You can create PTs from a TF, if the supply and enough of it was loaded in the USA. Not sure if you can create MTBs from supply loaded in Colombo or Karachi.

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/24/2020 1:41:42 AM)
7 Nov 43 Interesting turn. Bettys tried making some night naval attacks in the Philippines, going after AKs and APAs at Cotabato and Tawi Tawi. Bombs and torpedoes missed. I won't do any big nasty night bombing until an enemy night attack is successful. Then I'll send 100+ B-24s to Singapore or Bangkok or Manila at night. Then the night attempts will stop. Sabang was invaded. The only unit landing is an Indian engineer unit with decent combat capabilities. The base is held by 3 small enemy units. A big para drop will take place today, providing most of the attack strength. British sub Trusty sank ACM Seki Maru near Jesselton. Steelhead elected not to fire on an ACM just north of Legaspi. The E-boats with the ACM, however, did elect to fire on Steelhead, getting a depth charge hit. Kweilin got swept and bombed heavily, with aircraft coming from the Hanoi area for the first time. The number of aircraft at Bangkok dropped a lot today, so that's where they came from. 42 Franks started with a sweep and ran into just Hurricanes, which were no match. 9 Hurricanes were lost, with no Franks downed. The bad news for the day was near Namlea. Battleship Mississippi, with cruisers and destroyers, had moved adjacent to Namlea yesterday, with the base providing air cover. The location was chosen as the spot to prepare to run into Ambon for a bombardment. I pulled the fighters out, as they wouldn't be needed after the ships retired after the bombardment, but I forgot to order the Mississippi and friends into Ambon with a bombardment. So they stayed in place, with no aircover. Bettys attacked from Sorong, and reportedly put 3 torpedoes into the battleship. Damage is lighter than I expected, with SYS 17/FLOT 45-35/ENG 7-3/FIRE 0. The captain of the Mississippi, Rockwell Torrey, was not pleased. And he isn't the type of guy you want to get angry. Mississippi and escorts will move full speed towards Koepang, and should make 6 hexes and (hopefully) be out of enemy air search range. Sallys bombed Great Nicobar, just north of Sabang. C-47s had been there, dropping troops on Langsa, with no fighters there due to the lack of space. But the C-47s moved north to prepare to pick up and drop paras on Sabang, and fighters were moved back in. The Sallys were massacred by 15 Hurricanes and 24 P-40N5 Warhawks. 23 Sallys were downed. 10 B-25s attacked shipping at Hong Kong, setting 3 xAKs on fire. They were loaded with fuel. 8 Zeros were on CAP but were ineffective. The B-25s were set to 2000 feet and dropped down to strafe, but did poorly. I checked the pilots and they had no strafing training. Training will commence back at Ledo, where the unit redeployed. Sturgeon spotted a cruiser force near Quinhon, along the Vietnamese coast. Don't know which way the ships are heading. US troops attacked at Cagayan. Enemy bombers from Legaspi had disrupted one of the US divisions. Ground combat at Cagayan (79,89) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 26047 troops, 433 guns, 257 vehicles, Assault Value = 775 Defending force 8206 troops, 96 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 144 Allied adjusted assault: 396 Japanese adjusted defense: 265 Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 814 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 81 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Guns lost 28 (5 destroyed, 23 disabled) Allied ground losses: 671 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 105 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Guns lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled) Assaulting units: 24th Infantry Division 3rd Marine Division 260th Field Artillery Battalion 131st Field Artillery Battalion Defending units: 10th Garrison Unit II/124th Infantry Battalion 4th Air Army /1 60th Field AA Battalion 1st Ship Engineer Regiment 65th Construction Battalion 16th AA Regiment 4th JAAF AF Bn /1 Empty Taytay and Balabac were captured, but Puerto Princesa was not. It's a battle of support units. My money is on the fighting Seabees. US battleships will bombard tonight. That should help. Followup troops will also start to land, but they have no combat value. Ground combat at Puerto Princesa (73,83) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 2237 troops, 0 guns, 51 vehicles, Assault Value = 27 Defending force 910 troops, 4 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 12 Allied adjusted assault: 2 Japanese adjusted defense: 43 Allied assault odds: 1 to 21 (fort level 0) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-) Attacker: leaders(-), fatigue(-) Allied ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 16th USN Naval Construction Regiment Defending units: 22nd Port Unit An a part of the 1st USMC Tank Battalion advanced southeast out of Cotabato, crossing a river to attack the II/4th Infantry Battalion. Losses were light on both sides in a 1-2 attack. The better part of 2 infantry divisions will now start to move this way also. The enemy unit now shows movement to the northeast, into a mountain hex just west of Malaybalay. I'd rather it not get there. [image]local://upfiles/6549/320D434A2CF849DA9EE7F48BC9FED85B.gif[/image]

CaptBeefheart -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/24/2020 6:55:38 AM)
quote: 10 B-25s attacked shipping at Hong Kong, setting 3 xAKs on fire. They were loaded with fuel. 8 Zeros were on CAP but were ineffective. The B-25s were set to 2000 feet and dropped down to strafe, but did poorly. I checked the pilots and they had no strafing training. Training will commence back at Ledo, where the unit redeployed. I normally train my B-25/26 pilots in Low N (i.e. Naval Attack at 1000 feet, which means skip bombing) and I've had pretty good luck with that, with zero training in strafe. Are you sure you want to train them in strafe? Cheers, CB

Lowpe -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/24/2020 1:34:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: apbarog 7 Nov 43 Interesting turn. Bettys tried making some night naval attacks in the Philippines, going after AKs and APAs at Cotabato and Tawi Tawi. Bombs and torpedoes missed. I won't do any big nasty night bombing until an enemy night attack is successful. Then I'll send 100+ B-24s to Singapore or Bangkok or Manila at night. Then the night attempts will stop. If he was bombing your airfields at night with huge groups, then I would agree. But night naval bombing isn't going to hurt you unless he uses 80+exp Emily groups which is kind of cheesy. If you can, respond by doing some night naval bombing of your own. Allies are much more successful at it than the hapless Japanese. I have a love hate relationship with night bombing. Prior to mid 1944, it is almost impossible for Japan to counter especially night raids against runways. But on the other hand the Allies, especially the British, should be dabbling a bit in night bombing to keep Japan on her toes. Night naval bombing is something most JFBs always dabble in, let them! It is a huge waste of resources. For now, you probably could break a floatplane group down, and put them up in a night CAP and 99.9% of all bombers will miss. Strafing is an important skill for assault bombers, as it will reduce the effectiveness of AA increasing the hit ratio.

Lowpe -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/24/2020 1:43:21 PM)
I have really enjoyed how this game is playing out. I love the grand scale strategic thought you have put into the game.[&o]

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/24/2020 4:19:30 PM)
Thanks Lowpe. As I've told OPilot, the Japanese situation isn't just difficult, it's impossible, in my opinion. You just can't defend everything. The Allies can bypass strongpoints if needed. The Japanese have to figure on losing their units in a way that does the most harm to the Allied advance. As for the night bombing, when I saw that the Allied heavy bombers could proficiently shoot down enemy fighters at night, I took a disliking to it. It is true that putting up some night fighters will disrupt the bombing. But it becomes another mini-game within the game. It crossed my mind to do a big night heavy bombing of Bangkok. Until yesterday, the enemy had about 250 planes there, and they are dominating the area. Bangkok can't be bombarded by ships, being on the other side. I could fight a monumental air battle there in the day, but it would be costly. But it just feels off to me, playing the night bombing game. I did see that these B-25s were assault bombers, and that they would drop down and strafe, but I didn't notice that when I upgraded to that model, and didn't check my pilot strafing skills. I've done a lot of strafing skill training for other units. It's been effective, especially the Beaufighters earlier in the war. Just didn't notice this unit, and it got picked to go to China.

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/24/2020 5:51:10 PM)
I'm very interested to see how the strategy of going for the oil production centers will turn out. If OPilot hasn't had problems managing the economy, he should be ok with reduced oil, but only for awhile. And how long, I don't know. He's lost Palembang, Djambi, the oil on Java, Balikpapan and Tarakan. Miri is partly damaged. Right now, I think I'll gain air superiority over the northeastern part of Borneo and just bombard Miri with slow battleships, destroying the oil. I don't have plans to invade. He has a decent defense there and has kept close to 100 fighters at Miri. Right now it's starting to look dicey whether it's safe for him to bring in tankers. I think he's just using the occasional xAK convoy at Miri lately. The oil loss is going to hurt. I'll be very interested, after the war, to find out from OPilot how much of an effect my efforts had. [EDIT: He still has the oil at Medan, but I'm threatening that now. He lost the oil at Magwe. Another note: the first B-29s arrive in March 1944. I should have Luzon conquered by then.]

Lowpe -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/24/2020 7:36:48 PM)
This is a scenario 1 style Babes game I think. If so, then losing the oil will greatly hurt future economic production. Fuel doesn't have to run out completely before it starts shutting down heavy industry as the lower the levels go the more shortages will occur. Heavy industry shutting down will really hurt. I would take a gander at the map and see what HI factories are within bombing range. Yes, you won't get victory points for it, but it will require supplies to repair and assets to protect it. Additionally, if you can encourage the IJN fleet to sail across the map a few times. Finally, with the narrowing of the oil supply sources your sub fleet might be able to really concentrate. Generally speaking, Japan should try to keep the oil flowing until June of 1944 from the SRA if they want to have a hope of seeing mid 45. PS: Remember that Port strikes can destroy the stockpiled fuel. A nasty tactic, that, and way under utilized.

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/24/2020 8:19:45 PM)
Yes, this is a DBB-B Scenario 28 game. So like scenario 1. Long ago, I had a game as the Japanese where I was forced to choose between keeping what little fuel I had left or letting the heavy industry use it up. Without the fuel going into the industry, supply dwindled. Without fuel for the ships, I had no active navy. Without enough oil coming in, it was a difficult situation. I hope that lack of oil hurts the Japanese by mid 1944, in this game.

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/25/2020 4:04:45 AM)
8 Nov 43 Battleships Arizona and West Virginia bombarded the small port unit at Puerto Princesa, causing 263 casualties. Battlecruiser Repulse with cruisers and destroyers bombarded the enemy at Sabang. 463 casualties. Near Portland Roads, RO-68 hit ARD-8 with a torpedo. The floating drydock is SYS 25/FLOT 54-35/ENG 34-19/FIRE 2. Yes, the structure was holed and is even on fire. Makes me think of the plan to build floating blocks of ice for ASW planes to land on in the Atlantic. Impossible to damage by torpedo. Well, drydocks can be damaged. ARD-8 is the smallest size drydock, and can lift up to 3000 tons. It moves about one hex on a good day, and today is not a good day. It has 3 hexes to get to Portland Roads. Let's hope it can bob and weave. Mostly weave. Troops continued to land at Puerto Princesa and Taytay. Puerto Princesa was captured in a close 2 to 1 attack with no forts. The battleship bombardment was key. Lots of enemy air activity in China. P-40Ks tried an intercept in far northern China, running into twice as many sweeping Oscars. 4 Oscars and 5 P-40s downed. The enemy hit both Nanning and Kweilin, bases that I had planes at recently, and some still there. My naval search is out of Nanning. Enemy attack on shipping at Sabang. Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sabang at 44,70 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 23 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 30 Ki-48-IIb Lily x 24 Allied aircraft F6F-3 Hellcat x 55 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 17 destroyed Ki-48-IIb Lily: 8 destroyed, 5 damaged Ki-48-IIb Lily: 4 destroyed by flak No Allied losses Allied Ships CL Kenya CA Dorsetshire CL Newcastle 16 Lilys got through to drop bombs, but all missed. 33 Nicks and 16 Lilys were shot down. 7 of the Lilys were downed by flak. No Hellcats were lost. With 6 US carriers one hex away, with CAP set up to range 1, I'd hoped for a better defense, but it was enough. Enemy ground attack south of Rahaeng. Numerical superiority wasn't enough in the jungle, for today anyhow. Still a 1 to 1 attack. Ground combat at 57,57 (near Rahaeng) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 11210 troops, 104 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 375 Defending force 3532 troops, 48 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 112 Japanese adjusted assault: 300 Allied adjusted defense: 247 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 535 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 45 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Allied ground losses: 73 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 2nd Guards Division Defending units: 24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment Another Allied attack at Cagayan, using just one division. With both divisions attacking today, it should fall. Ground combat at Cagayan (79,89) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 13925 troops, 250 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 693 Defending force 6876 troops, 88 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 67 Allied adjusted assault: 267 Japanese adjusted defense: 139 Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 624 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Guns lost 28 (14 destroyed, 14 disabled) Allied ground losses: 140 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Assaulting units: 24th Infantry Division 3rd Marine Division 260th Field Artillery Battalion 131st Field Artillery Battalion Defending units: 10th Garrison Unit 16th AA Regiment 1st Ship Engineer Regiment 60th Field AA Battalion 65th Construction Battalion 4th Air Army /1 4th JAAF AF Bn /1 [image]local://upfiles/6549/27C695CA0B9F4EDE8B3489CEB6A2F21F.gif[/image]

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/25/2020 4:05:41 AM)
8 Nov 43 - Sabang [image]local://upfiles/6549/E38154246ECB4243AE85F1F18344AF17.gif[/image]

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/26/2020 1:38:10 AM)
9 Nov 43 Trout hit xAK Chihaya Maru with a torpedo near Tablas. It's a probable sinking. The ship had been torpedoed a couple of weeks ago nearby, and appeared to be running alone towards Manila. Sealion ran into a bunch of enemy destroyers near Ningpo, and took 2 depth charge hits. Sealion is SYS 39/FLOT 60-33/ENG 0/FIRE 0 and will retire to Jolo. There are multiple combat task forces south of Shanghai. Could be ASW task forces, could be something bigger. Unknown heading. Sturgeon hit xAK Brisbane Maru with a torpedo near Quinhon. Another probable sinking. More hammering of the Chinese by enemy air. It's painful to cede air superiority but it's for the best. Allied air power is concentrated in the Philippines while the enemy's is in China and Thailand. I had a weak flanking maneuver underway northwest of Sian. It was in combination with the advance west of Sian. That advance failed immediately with a river crossing, allowing enemy units to then move north to meet this feeble threat. Ground combat at 83,37 (near Tienshui) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 29412 troops, 244 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 895 Defending force 2595 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42 Japanese adjusted assault: 951 Allied adjusted defense: 7 Japanese assault odds: 135 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: disruption(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 98 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 1982 casualties reported Squads: 106 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 50 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 1 Units destroyed 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 15th Tank Regiment 26th Division 9th Division Defending units: 4th Chinese Cavalry/B Corps 4th Chinese Cavalry/C Corps Cagayan is captured. Ground combat at Cagayan (79,89) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 25364 troops, 434 guns, 257 vehicles, Assault Value = 690 Defending force 6493 troops, 79 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 38 Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0 Allied adjusted assault: 290 Japanese adjusted defense: 33 Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Cagayan !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1184 casualties reported Squads: 103 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 98 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 23 (22 destroyed, 1 disabled) Vehicles lost 23 (23 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 7 Allied ground losses: 133 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 24th Infantry Division 3rd Marine Division 260th Field Artillery Battalion 131st Field Artillery Battalion Defending units: 10th Garrison Unit 60th Field AA Battalion 4th Air Army /1 16th AA Regiment 65th Construction Battalion 1st Ship Engineer Regiment 4th JAAF AF Bn /1 [image]local://upfiles/6549/D237399DDD83496AA9C4E60AE7451A16.gif[/image]

apbarog -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/27/2020 4:07:17 AM)
10 Nov 43 A large mixed force of 8 cruisers and 4 destroyers ran into E Yaeyama west of Legaspi. The E-boat was sunk quickly. The ships went on to bombard Legaspi to good effect. Seal spotted 7 enemy destroyers near Laoag. Looks like the enemy is headed south towards Manila. Finally a reaction? Growler fired 4 torpedoes at CVE Hosho near Daito Shoto. All missed! I've suspected that enemy tiny carriers have been escorting big resource convoys, but I'm not sure here. Bettys with Zeros out of Singapore hit xAP Esperance while it was loading a base unit fragment at Pagai-eilanden. The ship was sunk with 533 casualties from the unit. Bettys have hit here before. It's an island west of Padang and is within easy reach of Singapore. I was trying to get the unit fragment out. Now there's less of it to have to get, but still men and 2 vehicles. I'll use the Coronados to fly out the men, but I'm sending a tiny xAKL to try to get the vehicles. The xAKL will probably be lost. The usual China and Thailand enemy air activity. The enemy bombarded at Canton in China. It's obvious that the Chinese will not take Canton, even without considering the massive enemy air commitment here. The Chinese will continue showing an attempt to encircle Canton. Ground combat at Canton (77,59) Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 360 troops, 35 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1069 Defending force 29299 troops, 113 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1047 Allied ground losses: 9 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 1st Ind.Inf.Group 19th Ind.Mixed Brigade 17th Division 104th Division 20th RGC Division 5th RF Gun Battalion 22nd Ind.Mtn Gun Battalion 23rd Army Canton Special Base Force 47th JAAF AF Bn 4th Air Division 2nd JAAF AF Coy Defending units: 11th Chinese Corps 60th Chinese Corps

Lowpe -> RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J) (4/27/2020 1:18:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: apbarog Bettys with Zeros out of Singapore hit xAP Esperance while it was loading a base unit fragment at Pagai-eilanden. The ship was sunk with 533 casualties from the unit. Bettys have hit here before. It's an island west of Padang and is within easy reach of Singapore. I was trying to get the unit fragment out. Now there's less of it to have to get, but still men and 2 vehicles. I'll use the Coronados to fly out the men, but I'm sending a tiny xAKL to try to get the vehicles. The xAKL will probably be lost. Fast Transport with those converted DD an option? I also really like to use the pick up troops option for amphibious convoys although it has a few hiccups they can be managed.

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