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Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: 4 player game (11/22/2018 5:41:33 AM)

Manchuria after Allied impulse.

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peskpesk -> RE: 4 player game (11/22/2018 6:50:21 PM)

Sep/Oct Axis impulse 7

Combined: Germany, Italy, Japan

No port strikes.
No naval air.

Naval movement

Italy
CP -> La Speiza -> East Med 0-box

Japan
TRS Osaka loaded with 5-3 MIL -> Shanghai
Fukuoka BB,2 CA -> China Sea 1-box

Naval Search

Italy Searches
West Med commits sub Axis(7), allied(3) -> no combat

East Med: Axis(4), allied(10) -> no combat




peskpesk -> RE: 4 player game (11/22/2018 7:54:07 PM)

Rail Movement:

Italy:
HQA (La Spezia) -> St-Nazaire

Germany:
INF (Paris) -> Vienna

Japan
MIL Shanghai-> Changchung

Landmovment

Italy
3-3 INF Tobruk -> hex(82,54)
Supply hex(105,63) ->hex(104,61)

Germany:
HQA hex(57,25) -> 58,27
2-6 ARM Div hex(59,27) -> 62,27
6-4 INF hex(61,34) -> La Spezia
7-4 INF hex(59,28) -> 62,27
9-4 INF hex(59,28) -> 62,27

Japan
4-2 MIL Tsitsihar -> hex(59,154)
HQI Yamamoto hex(86,135) -> hex(86,136)
2-3 TER hex(61,156) -> hex(61,155)




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peskpesk -> RE: 4 player game (11/22/2018 7:56:59 PM)

Libya/Egypt



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peskpesk -> RE: 4 player game (11/22/2018 7:59:23 PM)

Manchuria


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peskpesk -> RE: 4 player game (11/22/2018 8:30:56 PM)

Air Transport:

Germany
ATR3 -> Taranto, load MTN -> Tirana, Albania


No land combats.


Air Rebase:

Italy:
FTR hex(73,27) -> Cagliari

Germany:
LND2 (53,29) -> 59,25
FTR3 (Liege) -> Nuremberg
FTR2 (55,30) -> Genoa
FTR2 (La Spezia) -> Malta
LND3 (Saarbrucken) -> La Spezia

Japan:
FTR2 Kyoto-> hex(62,153)
Nav2 hex(78,155) -> (hex 65,168)
Tac2 kweiyang-> chengchow

No HQ reorg

Ends on die less than 2 -> 4 (no)

Over to the Allies




jjdenver -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 1:53:14 PM)

40 SO i9 allies:
SU,CW: land
FR: combined

naval moves: FR BB+2CA from Morocco to 2 box CSV (axis choose not to search with the SUB there)

CW rails Gort + MOT into Algeria.
SU rails Siberian INF from near Persia atop Zhukov in Manchuria.

Land moves:
SU:
East Manchuria
5-4 INF (NE of 4-3 INF) one hex west to close the gap.
AA gun one hex NW.

West Manchuria
ENG 3 hexes east along rail road.
HQ 2 hexes east along rail road.
5-3 INF and 2-5 CAV one.

SU moves a few units in Ukraine and East Poland.

CH moves Peking MIL 1 hex east.

FR CAVDIV 1 hex W out of Toulouse. 4-3 1 hex W out of front line position. 5-3 1 hex NW into front line position.

CW: INF 2 hexes into Algeria (flip fd). AT DIV to Rabat. INFDIV moves west along rail to Rabat (flips fd)
TER to hex SE of Alexandria. MOT to Alexandria.
Delhi MIL moves east from Calcutta.
ARM debarks Casablanca
TER debarks Calcutta
CW rebase FTR east through Algeria.

Turn continues.




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Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 5:47:47 PM)

No declarations of war.

Land: Germany, Japan
Combined: Italy
Naval:

Japan port strike the Soviet Pacific Fleet.

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Picture from Sep/Oct '40 Impulse #11 (Axis) - Port Strike




Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 5:50:21 PM)

While Germany attacks the main French battle fleet in Nice.

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Picture from Sep/Oct '40 Impulse #11 (Axis) - Port Strike




Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 6:01:39 PM)

Germany rolls 6 at Nice, while France rolls 8. No surprise.

The French AA fire (2,2,2,5,6) takes the fun out of the attack.

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Picture from Sep/Oct '40 Impulse #11 (Axis) - Port Strike




Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 6:03:41 PM)

That darn anti-air fire. I think we need to upgrade the air defences on our own fleet.

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Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 6:06:06 PM)

Not even the Japanese can do a proper port strike. [:(] Allies rolled 8 and Axis 5.

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Picture from Sep/Oct '40 Impulse #11 (Axis) - Port Strike




Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 6:09:20 PM)

Final result of the port strikes. One cruiser disorganized (5 rolled).

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Picture from Sep/Oct '40 Impulse #11 (Axis) - Port Strike




Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 6:16:31 PM)

No naval air.

One Italian CP and one CA leave La Spezia for the Western Mediterranean. The CA embark one German division from the Algerian coast.

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Picture from Sep/Oct '40 Impulse #11 (Axis) - Naval Movement




Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 6:19:17 PM)

Italy initiates combat in the Eastern Mediterranean.

Edit: No additional Axis air.

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Picture from Sep/Oct '40 Impulse #11 (Axis) - Naval Combat




Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 6:29:11 PM)

Sep/Oct '40
Impulse #11 (Axis)

No combat in the East Med. (Axis 9; Allies 8)




Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 6:31:53 PM)

Italy decline to search in the two remaining sea areas.

Will Allies initiate combat in the Western Mediterranean?

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Picture from Sep/Oct '40 Impulse #11 (Axis) - Naval Combat




Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/25/2018 9:02:19 PM)

Allies decline to search in the West Med.

No strategic bombing. No Ground Strikes.

Rail Movement:

Italy:
MTN (Trapani) -> Taranto

Japan:
INF (Wuhan) -> Kirin
GARR (Canton) -> Tsitsihar

Germany:
MIL (La Spezia) -> Trieste
GARR (Metz) -> Brest

Land Movement:

Germany:
MTN (Tirana) -> 69,46
Moved a couple of units in Hungary.
Moved more units in France.

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Picture from Sep/Oct '40 Impulse #11 (Axis) - Land Movement




peskpesk -> RE: 4 player game (11/26/2018 4:51:37 AM)

Italy
HQI hex(73,27)->hex(74,28)
MIL hex(75,26)->hex(75,27)

Japan

Manchuria/Korea
MIL hex(59,154) -> Harbin
TER hex(61,155)-> hex(63,155)
TER hex(65,158)-> hex(64,158)
TER hex(68,156)-> hex(67,157)§

China
Many

Debark:

GE Inf Div West-med 0-box-> La Spezia

No land combats.

Air Rebase:

Germany
FTR3 (Vienna) -> Tirana
FTR3 (Nuremberg) -> 54,41

Japan
Lnd2 Chengchow->Changchun

No reorganization.



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peskpesk -> RE: 4 player game (11/26/2018 4:55:49 AM)

Manchuria\Korea


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peskpesk -> RE: 4 player game (11/26/2018 4:56:43 AM)

Ends on die less than 6 -> 7 (No)

Over to the allies.




jjdenver -> RE: 4 player game (11/30/2018 10:02:07 PM)

Anyone know if this applies across rivers or is it halved across rivers like the 2d10 bonus for arm/mech?

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Orm -> RE: 4 player game (11/30/2018 11:43:17 PM)

Yes.

Steve decided that it was halved by rivers.

There is also another change:
Each Corps sized panzer adds +0.5 to the attack.
Each Division sized panzer adds +0.25 to the attack.

Normal MWIF rounding applies, so +0.5 rounds to +1.

So if no other modifications apply, then one MECH is enough for +1 to the attack, (+0.5 rounded to +1)




jjdenver -> RE: 4 player game (12/1/2018 12:35:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

Yes.

Steve decided that it was halved by rivers.

There is also another change:
Each Corps sized panzer adds +0.5 to the attack.
Each Division sized panzer adds +0.25 to the attack.

Normal MWIF rounding applies, so +0.5 rounds to +1.

So if no other modifications apply, then one MECH is enough for +1 to the attack, (+0.5 rounded to +1)


Does this mean corp sized panzer is +.5 without a river and +.25 across river?

Also is a corp sized panzer on defense +.5? So 2 MECH in a hex would be .5+.5=1?




Orm -> RE: 4 player game (12/1/2018 1:44:43 PM)

quote:

Does this mean corp sized panzer is +.5 without a river and +.25 across river?


Yes.

quote:

Also is a corp sized panzer on defense +.5? So 2 MECH in a hex would be .5+.5=1?


No, each corps sized panzer gives -1. So 2 MECH would be -2


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A few examples:

Attack:
1 Corps +0.5, rounded +1
2 Corps +1, rounded +1
1 Div +0.25, rounded 0
1 Corps and 1 Div +0.75, rounded +1


Attacking across river:
1 Corps +0.25, rounded 0
2 Corps +0.5 , rounded 1
1 Div +0.125, rounded 0
1 Corps and 1 Div +0.375, rounded 0

Defence:
1 Corps -1
2 Corps -2
1 Corps and 1 Div -1.5, I do not recall seeing this variant although I think it is rounded up to -1.

Attack vs Defence.
1 Corps +0.5 VS 1 defending Div -0.5 = 0
2 Corps +1 vs 1 defending Div -0.5 = +0.5, rounded +1
1 Corps +0.5 vs 1 defending Corps -1 = -0.5 rounded to 0 (pretty sure about this one)
1 Corps and 1 Div +0.75 vs 1 defending div -0.5 = +0.25 rounded +0

Attack across river vs defence
2 ARM Corps +0.5 vs 2 MECH -2 = -1.5 and I think this as usual rounds to -1


Edit: Beware, I can have made some mental errors when I made the examples. But I do hope that the principle is shown.




Orm -> RE: 4 player game (12/1/2018 1:51:01 PM)

Also note that Steve decided that the size of a paradropping unit matter.

A PARA Corps making a air drop is +1. But a PARA division making a air drop is +05. This might not make a difference because of rounding, but other modifications can make the difference important.




jjdenver -> RE: 4 player game (12/1/2018 3:16:50 PM)

40 SO i12 allied impulse
CW,FR,SU: land

Rail:
CAVDIV Baku->Vladivostok
CW ARM+ATDIV rail to Oran and Gort

Land moves:
China a little but of unit shuffling
CW Wavell 1 hex east from Plymouth
MIL to Chittagong
MECH to Bordeaux
FR falls back from Garonne to the Pyrenees
SU
forms motti around CAV+TER in east Manchuria
Several armies converge around the TER army on Trans Manchurian Railway to launch an assault on the mountain position.

Odds are 16.5:2 = 7:1;B

Does JP want to fly ground support? All options are shown in pic and there are no allied planes to intercept





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jjdenver -> RE: 4 player game (12/1/2018 3:35:40 PM)

40 SO i12 allied continued:
Axis choose to support for 2 with ki-30 and choose asslt table.

Red Army assault against the disorganized TER is an easy success.
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rebase:
Spitfire continues rebase across Africa

Turn continues. Weather roll a 6 so rain in arctic clear most other places. Over to Axis.




peskpesk -> RE: 4 player game (12/1/2018 7:31:47 PM)

No declarations of war.

Land: Italy,Japan
Combined: Germany

Naval air:
Germany fly the FTR2 on Malta to the 0-box of the Eastern Mediterranean.

No naval movement.

Germany initiate combat in the Eastern Mediterranean.


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The curse of bad search rolls continues

Axis Search roll East Med : 9
Allied Search roll East Med: 6

No combat [:@]





peskpesk -> RE: 4 player game (12/1/2018 7:44:02 PM)

No strategic bombing.

No Ground Strikes.

Rail movement:

Germany
ARM in La Rochelle rail to Budapest

Japan

HQI Chengchow -> 63,151
MEC Chengchow -> 63,151

Land Movement:

Germany:
MIL, Marseilles -> 63,31
9-4 INF, 62,27 -> 61,25
7-4 INF, 61,26 -> 61,25
MOT Div, La Rochelle -> 61,25
MOT, 60,26 -> 61,26
HQA, 59,26 -> 60,26

Italy:
MOT, 63,61 -> 62,32
MOT, Turin -> 60,32
INF, Tirana -> 69,45
MIL, ROM -> Leghorn
INF, 82,54 -> Bardia
TER, 87,54 -> 84,52
SUP, 104,61 -> 103,58
TER, 106,72 -> 108,70

Japan:
Se Picture

South China


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