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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:32:08 AM)

So begins the German 1942 offensive to capture Leningrad, albeit one year late.

We are willing to sell naming rights to this operation.

We begin with a very heavy take no chances attack.

Overkill yes, but hey it's a nice announcement.

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:33:56 AM)

3rd attack. trying to get up thru the clear hexes

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:34:28 AM)

4th attack a rout

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:35:36 AM)

working the right side of the river. Strong straight on attack

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:37:35 AM)

I send in mech unit to the empty behind the lines hex stopping reserves from coming to this battle.

I get good kills during air interception



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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:39:26 AM)

With no way to retreat Russians start to rout away.

The high number of Russian fighters trying to defend the battle is spooky and unnerving.

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:42:01 AM)

And for the key weekly battle I give you the attack lineup.

by the way and on a side note, I wish somehow the division name or number could be listed on the face of the counters.

Thanks


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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:43:33 AM)

Big win

Woop woop!

btw I have OKH and agn within 5 hexes of these battles.

damn 357 Russian fighters in support. that's alot

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:46:29 AM)

Down south a double Russian reserve activation causes problems for the german attack

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:48:17 AM)

The next attack caused some Deja vie but some how the decisions reversed into a german win.

Until I can get sufficient force down here my intention is to push onto the Don via the grind

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:49:07 AM)

last battle down south

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:50:17 AM)

near Moscow I improve my bridgehead.

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:51:24 AM)

Then heavy German losses in a win. Many kia compared to russians

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:52:03 AM)

Back up north one more push

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:53:26 AM)

Final north positions.

A good week.

I leave empty the clear hex south of Leningrad as any unit there would get smooshed during the Russian turn.

I am now in 2 locations only twenty miles from cutting off Leningrad train supply.



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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:56:56 AM)

final west Moscow.

I am being cautious

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:57:50 AM)

West Tula. While waiting I do approach closer to Russian lines

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th (2/23/2019 3:58:26 AM)

south final

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BrianG -> turn 48 May 14th kia report (2/23/2019 3:59:10 AM)

kia report for the week

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BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th air kia report (2/23/2019 4:00:26 AM)

And with some trepidation I open to view the weekly the air kia report.
I believe these results are for the German turn only

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Dinglir -> RE: turn 48 May 14th air kia report (2/23/2019 11:21:34 AM)

Well done with the attacks in the north. You even managed to dislodge a hex of the first Soviet line of serious defenses. Now, I am very curious to see how (and where) the Soviets will react.

As for the air, I can give you only one advice: Stop flying during the Soviet phase except to protect your own airfields. You need to preserve your airraft as best you can, and the Soviets can easily exploit whatever settings you have for the Soviet phase.

But all in all well done!





Crackaces -> RE: turn 48 May 14th air kia report (2/23/2019 3:38:34 PM)

One thing I am not seeing in battle reports is flak. It might behoove the Germans to load up HQ’s in the fray with mixed LW flak SU’s. One can get detailed and note the direction the Soviets are coming from and set up a web of flak . Flak is deadly in this version and can make the Soviets pay for committing ground support. I also stuff LW heavy flak where I am noting Soviet armor. Granted the randomness of the firepower phases of combat does not guarantee a match up, but if an 88mm gets a shot at a KV1 or T34 .. call it a kill. The 8MP AAR shows this match up in action.




TheLysander -> RE: turn 48 May 14th air kia report (2/23/2019 8:19:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

One thing I am not seeing in battle reports is flak. It might behoove the Germans to load up HQ’s in the fray with mixed LW flak SU’s. One can get detailed and note the direction the Soviets are coming from and set up a web of flak . Flak is deadly in this version and can make the Soviets pay for committing ground support. I also stuff LW heavy flak where I am noting Soviet armor. Granted the randomness of the firepower phases of combat does not guarantee a match up, but if an 88mm gets a shot at a KV1 or T34 .. call it a kill. The 8MP AAR shows this match up in action.


I agree, there is a flak regiment you can re-assign, i believe it arrives in danzig. The 9th Flak regiment and you can assign it to individual divisions. I would assume the enormous amounts of 88's in that regiment might make for some effective tank killing.




Fanstar1 -> RE: turn 48 May 14th air kia report (2/23/2019 10:48:29 PM)

Leningrad should be in german hands by November. Moscow could go either way.




Crackaces -> RE: turn 48 May 14th air kia report (2/24/2019 1:12:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Fanstar1

Leningrad should be in german hands by November. Moscow could go either way.


HLYA is not your average Soviet ..so I am not sure “Leningrad should be in the German Hands” if ever applies in this game.HLYA has one of the most technical defenses of Leningrad that begins with a very strong Pskov defense. Probably easier to take Moscow but we have yet to see a pure Moscow push.




BrianG -> moscow factories (2/24/2019 1:53:51 AM)

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Moscow could go either way.







btw he is still producing with his factories IN Moscow. airplanes, armaments, industry etc. All pumping away.
Would be juicy 42 target. highly unlikely to fall.






BrianG -> RE: turn 48 May 14th air kia report (2/24/2019 1:56:52 AM)

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One thing I am not seeing in battle reports is flak.


I freeze the picture frame and usually the flak totals in the hidden area. I've noticed flak being detailed.
Not sure what levels would be good for an area.


100 guns 200 guns etc. I seem to get 80 to 90.

What is a 'good' number for flak defense. versus air only, and in ground combat?




Crackaces -> RE: turn 48 May 14th air kia report (2/24/2019 5:35:03 PM)

It all depends on the make up of the Soviet Air Force.
88mm good vs I’ll-4’s 37 and 20mm good vs IL-2’s.

With an environment of mostly tactical aircraft and IL-4’s conducting unit bombing my General SU assignment per HQ active in combat is 3 mixed LW for about 80 tubes and 3 LW light for another 90 light tubes. In hot areas I will assign an SP flak unit directly to a unit. Just a FYI I assigned 20mm quad flak vs cavalry units which caused quite a controversy <smile>

One thing about flak. Kills are nice but disruption is the typical “good” result that you will only see at high message levels.”XYZ unit turns away “ after facing either a fighter or flak unit is a nice result. Although you do not see this on the combat result at the very end. A derived metric is less than expected disruptions of your units. Remember air takes place before any ground combat takes places in the firepower phase. So keeping your devices from disruption while your air disrupts is decisively an advantage. It turn a held into a rout on the attack or a “sure rout” into an unexpected held on the defense,

Also remember that the SU’s move up to the next HQ during the logistics phase. This is good because hauling around SU’s is hard on trucks. It also means that army and army group commands are plumb full sometimes with SU’s. Strategically placing these units between the Soviets and their targets can add hundreds If not thousands of flak tubes. I have seen an entire Soviet bombing run destroyed by the OKH unit being nearby an airbase that was attacked.

One thing I do is use my recon to draw lines from my airbases to my targets and estimate flak. Each recon run will report flak for that mission . The next step is to do the kabuki dance with recon bases , figure out the optimum flak lanes for attack, kabuki your airbases so your flights minimize flak exposure. This along with maximizing supply, protection of forces, etc ... it is not the extra bombers shot done but minimizing turn always that I have the most concern.




BrianG -> 49 open (3/3/2019 1:53:25 AM)

Heavy red activity. recon all aligned and spaced.

And German units on wrong side of the front awaiting a long mud turn. Can they survive?

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BrianG -> RE: 49 open (3/3/2019 1:54:51 AM)

Up north Russian counter attacks on my flank. I lose a valuable rough hex.



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