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BrianG -> RE: 49 open (3/3/2019 1:56:59 AM)

Down south the view is rinse and repeat. Air attacks this time only on combat units.

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BrianG -> RE: 49 open (3/3/2019 1:59:44 AM)

he did not attack my air bases this turn.

I am starting to see a pattern. airbases every 3 weeks. and combat units on the other 2.

not that this will help me. I think my flak is getting increasing kills. I will try and keep tally.



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BrianG -> 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:01:42 AM)

My opening attack. Up north.



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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:03:26 AM)

I clear the clear hex to move in blocking mot unit for follow on attacks

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:04:21 AM)

The first major battle against strong defensive hex and top Russian leader

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:07:47 AM)

I then observe all these odd units hanging out by the fins.

So I assume he wants the units near Leningrad which may rout to rout way east. Does this mean all the hexes near Leningrad are full up.



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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:08:49 AM)

Straight on tank attack cuts rr line into Leningrad

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:10:25 AM)

Lineup attack for next KEY battle.

I notice a Guards Cav Corp.


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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:11:46 AM)

The Russians put up a nasty defense and take heavy kia's. They retreat nonetheless.

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:14:27 AM)

Then we clear out the other strong defensive point. Again very heavy Russian air support

Many units are routing. Due to lack of space? Or retreat thru zoc?

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:16:22 AM)

one more push and we reach the lake's edge.



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BrianG -> 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:21:08 AM)

Remembering my supply 101 class, I bomb Leningrad supply port cutting off supply and evacuation.

Which leads to the following thoughts.

These Russian units are trapped. They will wither if I can cut the lake all the way to the fins.

No reason now to attack Leningrad. I will wait. First I will push with everything to cut off all possible supply.

There must be at least 24 divisions in Leningrad area. plus some assorted debutants.

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:23:11 AM)

North rr situation.

Although my east line was cut during last turns Russian attacks, I am set to reconnect the line. I have 2 rr repair units near by and the missing link will soon be fixed.

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:25:37 AM)

Next turn the far north is mud. My surrounded troops, in the far north area, will have to hold out during a mud turn before these tanks units shown here are used as the rescue force.

Due to limited Russian recon I don't believe these tanks were noticed.



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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:29:05 AM)

the south soviet weather zone is just about where this attack occurs. This area will be clear next turn.

I thus start attempt to surround a few Russian units.

These attacks end up not being well thought out.

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:30:30 AM)

You can see the weather zone and the corner of clear to work with

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:32:37 AM)

I even throw in air support on this hasty attack. The prior battle forced the Russian into the target surround hex on the far west of the Russian line.

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:35:15 AM)

my last attack. now I spend way to much time trying to shove in tanks units to prepare for a Russian rescue attack

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:40:32 AM)

down south

I surround then take voroshilvgrad

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:41:47 AM)

I am only grinding down here atm .

still I keep running into very entrenched reserve activation

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:44:12 AM)

last attack. not a lot of ground gained.

I did rout one Russian hq.

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:47:26 AM)

final south.

I retreat forward units
hit and run tactics. very unbecoming of the fine Prussian tradition

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:49:14 AM)

weather forecast correction

It is now expected clear for north and central soviet zones

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BrianG -> RE: 49 german moves (3/3/2019 2:50:34 AM)

Final north.

Leningrad cut off from truck and train supply. Check!

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BrianG -> 49 aircraft kia report (3/3/2019 2:52:24 AM)

700 Russian planes. Is this sustainable.

All that bombing, he must be using lots of armaments.

if you compare with earlier report, my flak is definitely getting kills.

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BrianG -> 49 combat units kia report (3/3/2019 2:53:08 AM)

kia report

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Crackaces -> RE: 49 combat units kia report (3/3/2019 3:06:26 PM)

I would agree with you that 17,000 aircraft lost by turn 34 is a good indicator that the losses on turn 34 are not sustainable. The trend I watch is the OOB. For the forum, that represents the number of aircraft attached to airbases vs reserve. Trending how many the Soviets can field gives an indication of the health of the Air Force. What is great about the results of a turn like this is damaged aircraft scraped in the logistics phase. In better weather the Germans can follow up with strikes on the Soviet airfields turning more damaged into destroyed.

What is the total damage on Osinovets? Just to say Stukas are pretty effective at port bombing :) you will need 70% in your turn to get 67% in the Soviet turn.
One thing I did was to rout out a couple of Soviet units so you don’t have as many fighting your forces while you reduce Osinovets. That is of course debatable because you want to trap as many units as possible. I just found routing out enough so the ones left behind could not resist .. it freed forces early too .. ahh this game is so great !




BrianG -> RE: 49 combat units kia report (3/3/2019 6:38:35 PM)

quote:

you will need 70% in your turn to get 67% in the Soviet turn.


while i'm at it, when I look at the lake ports they show zero in shipping available.

What is the 'official' level for port being shut. Ignorance is sometimes not bliss.

I think I had Osinovets at 6% damage after this raid. they following turn it was again zero.

and then I forgot to bomb one turn.




BrianG -> RE: 49 combat units kia report (3/3/2019 6:43:53 PM)

quote:

Germans can follow up with strikes on the Soviet airfields turning more damaged into destroyed.


Not sure I will be bombing Russian airfields.
I'm afraid of more bad bomber results. Perhaps I am being a bit timid.

Although, I agree It would be smart to do so on turns such as this when Russians bombers have had lots of fatigue.






Crackaces -> RE: 49 combat units kia report (3/3/2019 7:43:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BrianG

quote:

you will need 70% in your turn to get 67% in the Soviet turn.


while i'm at it, when I look at the lake ports they show zero in shipping available.

What is the 'official' level for port being shut. Ignorance is sometimes not bliss.

I think I had Osinovets at 6% damage after this raid. they following turn it was again zero.

and then I forgot to bomb one turn.


Well the level 3 port is 66.6 or 67%. It will repair 3% every turn. You can look at the 2x3 AAR but the best attack I got I was with Stukas .. something like 13% in one turn.

The shipping is zero for the “ Brianites” (from Sillyflower) :) but the Soviets are shipping believe me :)

There is a chart floating around for port levels higher but I am thinking port level 3 is maximum feasible .




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