RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A)

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rustysi -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (11/30/2018 9:00:17 PM)
To me you've already missed the bus in the South Pacific. Its gone, a total loss, for now anyway. I don't know if its possible, but when I play the Allies my intent is to get the US 41st ID out of CONUS ASAP. Suva being a prime location for said unit. Instead of throwing away PP's on Dutch AS units I'd have turned in all my early A/C units for the PP bonus, to get them outta harms way, and put it into the 41st. Put the 41st on the QM and raced it to Suva, but that's me.

Encircled -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (11/30/2018 9:27:04 PM)
Similar, but your aim in early, mid and even late '42 is to have your troops in positions that if he tries something a bit "more" you can defeat him. I always wait till I've got a good idea where he is going, but if he's going for Suva you can probably rule out an attack on India. I think someone has already mentioned it, but if I was going for the Marianas I'd want a neutralised Truk and bases at Yap and Woloei (spelling?). You won't do that in '42. I have all your units in Oz and see where you can go from there.

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/1/2018 3:31:00 PM)
Well like I said, the odds of actually having all the ducks fall into place to do something in the Marianas is a long shot. But if the opportunity is there, and everything falls into place, it's an option. I doubt I'd actually go for Saipan though. In the latest turn, A sub of mine had a few "no explosion" hits on a transport tf headed to Rabaul. Ahhh can't wait for working torps. At Wenchow, I had sent a group of Flying Tigers there for a cap trap. The first wave of IJ Bombers was escorted by over 40 Oscars, but the day went well. In that combat, I dropped 4 bombers (out of 21) to 1 SharkNose P40 (or H81-A3) lost. The next wave of 16 Lilys came in unescorted, and 4 went down. Time to pull out the AVG as my base is low on supply, and if the IJ BB bombardment is on schedule, it will show up tomorrow. I have a Dutch sub waiting in the waters, and she will put at least 9 torpedos into whatever comes her way... or so I hope. In Ground Combat - the IJ booted my troops from Canton. That was a nice diversion, but now the race to get back to home is on. This should provide more cap trap opportunities. The IJ takes Nadi - next to Suva. Only the IJ 4th ID attacked, and it had "negatives" for leaders and fatigue. More units crossed the river at Singapore. They were not kicked back across the river. Here is the result. Ground combat at Singapore (50,84) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 35586 troops, 347 guns, 92 vehicles, Assault Value = 1199 Defending force 39191 troops, 480 guns, 309 vehicles, Assault Value = 949 Japanese adjusted assault: 468 Allied adjusted defense: 831 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-) Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-) Japanese ground losses: 6373 casualties reported Squads: 154 destroyed, 167 disabled Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 103 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled Guns lost 38 (23 destroyed, 15 disabled) Allied ground losses: 3229 casualties reported Squads: 40 destroyed, 362 disabled Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 174 disabled Engineers: 4 destroyed, 57 disabled Guns lost 77 (9 destroyed, 68 disabled) Assaulting units: 112th Infantry Regiment 18th Division 41st Infantry Regiment 23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment 2nd Division 36th Field AA Battalion Southern Army 55th Mountain Gun Regiment Defending units: 6th Indian Brigade 2nd Loyal Battalion 3/16th Punjab Battalion 2nd Malay Battalion 1st Mysore Battalion 1st Malay Battalion 3rd Cavalry Regiment 2/17 Dogra Battalion 27th Australian Brigade 2nd Gordons Battalion 22nd Australian Brigade 1st Hyderabad Battalion FMSV Brigade 28th Gurkha Brigade SSVF Brigade 1st Manchester Battalion 5/2nd Punjab Battalion 2/215th Bty 80th AT Gun Regiment 22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment 29 Battery/3 HAA 1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment 2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment 137/155th Field Regiment III Indian Corps 111th RAF Base Force 2nd ISF Base Force Malayan Air Wing 224 Group RAF 112th RAF Base Force Singapore Fortress 223 Group RAF 30 Battery/3 HAA 24th NZ Pioneer Coy 1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment 110th RAF Base Force Malaya Army Singapore Base Force 272/273rd Bty 80th AT Gun Regiment 109th RN Base Force 11 Battery/3 HAA 109th RAF Base Force AHQ Far East 5th Field Regiment

Encircled -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/1/2018 8:00:03 PM)
Thats a good, almost great result for you. A regiments worth of troops destroyed, another regiments worth disabled. Be a while till he risks a deliberate attack I reckon. Has he got many more troops crossing soon or is this it?

Anachro -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/1/2018 8:07:44 PM)
Singapore shall stand till the end of time, first in flesh, then in spirit. Immortal for all of posterity to acclaim. So say I. [:)] I'm looking forward to your push towards Marcus and it'll be a good test to see how conscientious your opponent has been in his defenses. If he has put some sort of garrison on Marcus, your chances are probably minimal. If not, you'll take it and cause a distraction by forcing him to send stuff there, but it should fall back to him rather quickly. But in doing so, it might force him to be a lot more conscientious elsewhere and devote resources/men that he'd rather spend concentrating on the front.

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/1/2018 8:43:46 PM)
That's exactly the point Anachro. I just put a sub into Marcus Island... perhaps it will detect some sort of intel on Marcus. I don't know. My Marine Raider unit is in the process of switching Op Mode to Combat. Then she embarks on the 3 SST's I have. None of my subs around Marcus or a raiding TF I have patrolling nearby, have been detected. If the timing works out right, I might have my raider TF recon and bombard the island a turn before the invasion - that will show me if there are any LCU's at the island.

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/2/2018 1:15:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Encircled Thats a good, almost great result for you. A regiments worth of troops destroyed, another regiments worth disabled. Be a while till he risks a deliberate attack I reckon. Has he got many more troops crossing soon or is this it? Mouseover shows another 16 units next door. Yikes. I wonder what kind of result I would have had had I changed out Percival.

BBfanboy -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/2/2018 1:16:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Anachro Singapore shall stand till the end of time, first in flesh, then in spirit. Immortal for all of posterity to acclaim. So say I. [:)] [&:] My posterior doesn't care about any immortals, or immorals either .... oh .... wait [image]local://upfiles/35791/4F434F78BF87452481A3B65C925BE974.jpg[/image]

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/2/2018 1:18:06 AM)
When it comes to gaming, I have a very strange "six sense". I've learned a long time ago that when I get a feeling that strong, I just need to follow it. It's odd. For example - I don't have that "feeling" about Marcus Island or the Marianas. But I did when it came to putting that unit on Norfolk Island. Today, CB landed a unit at Norfolk Island. I don't think the remaining Ozzie Cav unit is going to stand up to the assault. I vectored some 4EB to Aukland to bomb the enemy... but hmmm. I just "knew" that I should have put that unit in Norfolk instead of making a last minute change to Suva. :) But oh well. It's not the end of the world.

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/2/2018 1:20:19 AM)
I told Chicken Boy that his 4th ID is ready to revolt as they haven't had wine or women for a long time. He responded by saying they still have "Song" and like to sing Tennheko Banzai. I asked if Tokyo Rose could sing "Lily likes licking lolipops lately", cuz my soldiers need a good raugh. LOL, or should I say... ROR. I enjoy the banter with him :)

Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/2/2018 4:38:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AcePylut quote: ORIGINAL: Encircled Thats a good, almost great result for you. A regiments worth of troops destroyed, another regiments worth disabled. Be a while till he risks a deliberate attack I reckon. Has he got many more troops crossing soon or is this it? Mouseover shows another 16 units next door. Yikes. I wonder what kind of result I would have had had I changed out Percival. Roughly the same. I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but you have 0 Forts there now, and your disabled count of shooters was twice his. Those guys will not have time to recover. The two Aussie units are the core of your defense, and they won't last long with no forts. He's got a core LCU count now to prevent auto-shock on the river crossing if he plays it properly, and I think he will. Singers is doomed. Sorry.

rustysi -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/2/2018 5:52:42 PM)
quote: I wonder what kind of result I would have had had I changed out Percival. Doubt it would have been all that different. Problem I see is as stated above, zero forts. Singers doesn't have long before the fall. BTW, what's the game date?

rustysi -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/2/2018 5:53:55 PM)
quote: I just put a sub into Marcus Island... perhaps it will detect some sort of intel on Marcus. I don't know. Not as to LCU's.

rustysi -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/2/2018 5:59:34 PM)
quote: Mouseover shows another 16 units next door. Yikes. And I'll wager there're all headed for Singers, well most of 'em. The day after they get there, it'll all be over.[:(]

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/2/2018 6:58:20 PM)
Next day is in the books. Singapore was lost the day the war started. More units are now into Singapore - see the image. Forts are back up to "1". My forts at Singapore were at 2, before this all began. My sub at Wenchow executed a perfect ambush, except... it launched it's torps at the DD, not the BB and missed. Oh well. Norfolk Island fell. Multiple sweeps and Caps around China - tells me CB is getting mad at my Flying Tigers and is trying to hunt them down. For the next turn, I"m going to dispatch a CA/CL/DD force from Sydney, Oz to Norfolk and perhaps bag some ships. We'll see though, if the odds are not in my favor, I'll pull back. The KB moved North/Northwest, about in the middle of the triangle between Nedni, Tabiteuea, and Suva. [image]local://upfiles/11397/53EFCC6C4F6E49BC889FD0D7368B4DF8.jpg[/image]

rustysi -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/2/2018 7:07:16 PM)
quote: The KB moved North/Northwest, about in the middle of the triangle between Nedni, Tabiteuea, and Suva. Setting up to defend follow up convoys/forces? Edit:Possible refuel?

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/3/2018 12:10:27 AM)
My guess would be some units coming to invade Tab and the surrounding islands... most likely to shore up that flank for his units. I noticed a movement dot going "out" of Singapore, probably pulling back those units beat up/ disrupted in the shock attack.

Encircled -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/3/2018 9:11:50 AM)
If he's capturing Norfolk Island, then he's got both an excellent buffer for his conquests to the north, and an excellent staging post if he's thinking of attacking Oz or NZ.

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/3/2018 12:06:52 PM)
I hope he's going for Oz. Norfolk is in range of B17's from NZ. I'll start building up Auckland's airport another level or two (it can already handle B-17's), and begin round the clock bombing of Norfolk Island. Unless he keeps up LRCAP from Noumea, it will take a long time for him to build an airfield there. This could be a great training base for me. I think this is more of a move to put the southern supply line into OZ at constant risk. Good thing I'm building up Tahiti. Tahiti would be at the very long end of a supply line, but right now, considering the units I have there, I don't think I have enough INF there (just a regiment) to stop a 'grab and smash and leave' operation. I'll need to get more in there to feel more secure.

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/4/2018 4:53:27 PM)
Anotere turn is in the books. Wenchow in China fell to a concerted, 6 division, attack. An IJ Fleet is at Norfolk Island and appears to have picked up the IJ troops there. I have a 4CA SCTF on full speed to attempt an intercept, but it won't get to Norfolk until the turn ends. I suspect that CB's fleet will have departed. If the situation is favorable to pursue this transport fleet, I will, otherwise I will retire and repair the sys damaged incurred from a full speed run. In the DEI, please note the graphic. I've doubled my search planes for the next turn (not shown on this image) to get clarity on the fleets. If this is a large invasion fleet, my CV's will attack. If there aren't any capital ships of note, then I might send in my SCTF to clean things up, and hopefully bait CB into sending something of value into my carriers, or I may hold the SCTF "at base" and see if a better opportunity arises. As of right now, none of these DEI Tf's have been detected. [image]local://upfiles/11397/590D6894E69E4FEDB5CB269331BDBAA5.jpg[/image]

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/4/2018 6:51:13 PM)
On another note, I almost have a US Army Fighter Group in OZ that has no withdrawal date. I will go through all of other fighter groups and cull the most experienced pilots and put them in this �super-group�. Then, I will covert the unit to P-38�s. I have 34 of these �in the bank� through effective use of downgrading the restricted P38�s that start the war on the map.

Anachro -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/4/2018 6:54:58 PM)
Wow, that's a good idea. In my game with John, I've been making use of the a/c PP buyout system his mod has, but forgot about the restricted P38's in the mainland. May your CV's hunt well in the DEI. We'll see if Chickenboy races up with the KB and relieves some pressure down there in the SoPac for you.

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/4/2018 7:07:34 PM)
The KB is too far away to do anything for the next week, so all I have to worry about is the Mini-KB. Not sure how well 2 US CV's will hold up to the Mini-KB at this point in the war, especially since any "repair" base I have is a long way off. The good thing is that I'm pretty sure CB doesn't think I have any worthy ships in the region, because the IJ sub presence is non-existent (at least according to my search aircraft). This is good imho, because I don't think he'll suspect CV's to show up. I just need to get the right target, and I think any fleet with at least 2 CA would be good. That would be 10% of his CA fleet gone for the war. If CB does what most people do, the Mini-KB is up near the Aleuts, but I can't count on that. So my search planes in the DEI are going to be ridden hard over the next week. I'm trying to keep my CV's at the edge of Netty Range. If these fleets at Balikpapan are full of small-fry, I'll pull my CV's back to Koepang and wait a few turns... see if anything else shows up. Depending on how long the KB has disappeared, is how long I might stick around in the DEI. We'll see. The KB has been out of sight for 1 turn (this turn). I think "headed back to get fuel" is what it's doing. There hasn't been a move on Tabiteuea (sp) yet. One of these days I'll sit down and learn the spelling of that base once and for all. Also, Pago Pago seems safe for the moment.

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/5/2018 1:13:30 PM)
Latest turn arrived last night, and that was a good thing because I needed to sleep on it and think clearly. At Norfolk Island, as suspected in my previous update, the IJ was able to bug out by the time I got there. My ships retired to NZ and are too far away to effect an intercept. Opportunity lost by one day. The KB has been missing for 2 days. The Mini-KB has been gone for a couple of weeks. In the DEI, more IJ �small fry� tf�s flooded the Balikpapan Straights (or whatever that�s called) � there are about 8-9 TFs in the area. I think that CB is trying to pull a Wizard of Oz by �showing a lot of task forces� to give the impression of a major move� but the doubled search I created still shows these tf�s to be stocked only with small fry ships. It�s as if he�s trying to present a �whole bunch of chances to sink a lot of ships for this incoming invasion� to bait me into sending something valuable into the region, so he can spring a trap and sink some really valuable ships of mine. I won�t fall for it, especially since, during the afternoon phase, the CVL Hermes was �spotted� by a search aircraft (why it didn�t or doesn�t disband in the morning phase is beyond me, the ship was only 2 hexes from the port). He knew this ship was lurking in the DEI from its �perfect ambush / terrible torpedo run� attack a couple-three weeks ago. He may now know that it�s �around� again, and will spring his trap to try and sink it. Thus: On one hand I have a spotted CVL that happened to be lurking in the region 2-3 weeks ago. On the other hand, I have a bunch of small fry tf�s that are using smoke and mirrors to �appear� to be something major. I will have to do the prudent thing, and retire my carriers. It�s not worth the risk given �what I know� and �what I know he knows�. I will have to (possibly) sacrifice 2-3-4 DD�s though, for the strategic level meta. I�m going to send in either a single 4DD tf to blast as much small fry as possible� or I�m going to send in two 2DD�s tf�s to do the same. I'm doing this because... I want him to A) think that his trap worked and I can be baited easily. I want him to B) think that the CV spotted was an erroneous/faulty identification, and that he really spotted just a couple DD�s. I do this to try and create doubt about his belief in his search pilots ability. (I.e. �Dang, last turn it said Carrier, but it was just a pair of DD�s. My search pilots are as garbage as those Dutch pilots that thought a BB was just a Patrol Boat.�) I think I�ll go with two 2DD tf�s � so that if a massive air strike comes (or I encounter something heavy) perhaps 1 of the tf�s will sink some ships and then escape. A massive air strike would be welcome, actually, because it would tell me that this entire �flash a whole bunch of tf�s� is (or was), for certain, a trap. Also, I'll watch the amount of bombers hitting Singapore from NW Borneo. Singers has been steadily bombed from this direction. If, all of a sudden, there is no attack from Borneo, then I will assume that his bombers were set to naval attack and that would also be a clue that tells me, in the words of the Great Admiral Ackbar... "It's a trap!"... (if you said that in Ackbar's voice, you win the internet today). Layers on top of layers on top of layers. Love this game.

Anachro -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/5/2018 3:15:00 PM)
Is it really bad if all he spots is the CVL Hermes? Could you take on part of mini-KB with your other carriers if they appeared? Might be a good means by which you can draw it out. If he goes deep into the DEI, you have the advantage of LBA versus him.

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/5/2018 3:25:53 PM)
A light bulb just went off in my head. Over the last 4-5days, I�ve had (2) A-24 groups at Port Moresby reconning Gili-Gili. I�ve also had a sub parked on this base for about 2 weeks. Today, a large IJ tf of 4 CA, 2 CL, and assorted DD�s showed up at said base. I�m wondering if my �few days of recon� may have led CB to believe I was going to invade the base, and he put some ships there to destroy any possible invasion fleet. If, over the next two-three turns, nothing else shows up at the base, I will conclude that this was the case and docket this information to setup a trap somewhere at a later date. The other possible option behind this CA tf move is that this TF is �clearing the way� for a PM invasion, which would be made clear in the next couple of days. Funny, but the REAL reason I was reconning the base � is that I wanted to know if any IJ LCU�s were there. Ya see, my sub had been sitting on that base and there was no sign of enemy ground troops. The recon was to see if there was ground troops. The Gili Gili thing was an op just to test the game mechanics for the possible Marcus Island Invasion. Which�. Marcus Island will happen by APD or not at all - I forgot that I can�t convert my 3 subs to SST�s yet. D�oh.

BBfanboy -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/5/2018 3:32:37 PM)
Watching thousands of TFs approach port over the years I note that more often than not they end up in the hex next to the port, even when they appear to have enough movement hexes left to enter the port. Near as I can figure, the game requires one whole phase to enter port from the adjacent hex - i.e. if it is not in the adjacent hex at the end of the night naval movement phase, it won't enter port on the day naval movement phase. If it does enter port, it seems to do very little in terms of unloading or disbanding until the next phase. I suppose this is an abstraction of having to slow down for other traffic around the port and waiting for a pilot to take the ships in.

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/5/2018 3:45:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Anachro Is it really bad if all he spots is the CVL Hermes? Could you take on part of mini-KB with your other carriers if they appeared? Might be a good means by which you can draw it out. If he goes deep into the DEI, you have the advantage of LBA versus him. I don�t want to take on the Mini-KB with 2 CV and the Hermes. He has flown Netties from Palembang, Manado, Ternate, and the NE of Borneo so he can easily do it again at the chance of bagging some US Fleet Carriers. His Netties can range over any decent, ship repairing port, in the DEI. My safest base is Darwin, and that base is easily isolated. If I take anything above moderate damage � which is a very real possibility - my CV�s will most likely not make it out alive. My LBA in the region sucks. Dutch bombers can�t hit garbage (and believe me, they�ve been trying to hit those annoyance task forces in the Balikpapan straights for a week or two) and most of my Brit squads are in Calcutta or Sydney. This DEI Op is all predicated on striking something valuable with as little risk as possible to me. Enemy CV�s in the region present a threat that is too great for my �gut feeling� right now. Surprise is of the essence. The sighting of the Hermes takes that surprise away. The only way I can regain the surprise is a little sleight of hand, and make him think the Hermes was actually just a couple of DD�s. In thinking more about sending in two (2) DD tf�s, I�m going to add a CL to one of those TF�s. That should feed the belief that the �so called CV sighting� was just a CL sighting, and maybe �regain� the surprise aspect.

AcePylut -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/5/2018 3:48:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Watching thousands of TFs approach port over the years I note that more often than not they end up in the hex next to the port, even when they appear to have enough movement hexes left to enter the port. Near as I can figure, the game requires one whole phase to enter port from the adjacent hex - i.e. if it is not in the adjacent hex at the end of the night naval movement phase, it won't enter port on the day naval movement phase. If it does enter port, it seems to do very little in terms of unloading or disbanding until the next phase. I suppose this is an abstraction of having to slow down for other traffic around the port and waiting for a pilot to take the ships in. Thanks! Duly noted.

Encircled -> RE: Mushrooms over Maizuru: Chickenboy (J) vs. AcePylut (A) (12/6/2018 10:17:25 AM)
Very sensible mate Once your carrier was spotted, and you don't know where his carriers are, then you don't do anything else.

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