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RangerJoe -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (5/11/2021 11:52:26 PM)
If he has ASW assets forward, how about attacking those with massive fighter escort?

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (5/17/2021 7:09:24 PM)
September 21, 1943. Daily air battles continue around the Taberfane region while the Japanese and Allied fleets continue to stare at each other. Most of the air battles feature heavier Japanese losses, but most are over Japanese territory so we're probably about even on pilot losses. Meanwhile, a raid by some Kates around Lae in Eastern New Guinea achieved success, planting bombs into 3x large APAs. Only one is listed as sunk, but I'm guessing 4x 250 kg bombs and heavy fires/damage should probably be enough to get all three. [image]local://upfiles/14041/6992F5ECEB3B475D8A111D19AAD51267.jpg[/image]

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (5/17/2021 7:12:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe If he has ASW assets forward, how about attacking those with massive fighter escort? I'm trying that a bit, but the situation is pretty fluid and half the times my strikes end up hitting his deathstar instead :)

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (5/21/2021 6:58:30 PM)
September 24, 1943. Battles around Taberfane continue. The Allied fleet is getting a bit larger and more aggressive. Allied CV aircraft launched a series of attacks on some Japanese picket DDs. For the loss of over 50 aircraft, only 1x 1000 lb bomb was planted on a DD. Luckily, the damage was tolerable and the destroyer will likely survive. [image]local://upfiles/14041/051020EF6E8D4AF6BE947B70DEF46724.jpg[/image]

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (5/24/2021 12:29:18 AM)
September 27, 1943. Managed to down a lot of heavy bombers today, over a combination of Burma and New Guinea! [image]local://upfiles/14041/30B579F7059D4A17AB7A2FE6DA180378.jpg[/image]

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/4/2021 8:16:19 PM)
October 10, 1943. It's been a busy week around Taberfane. The Allied CVs were deployed forward a few days ago so the KB came down to meet them. We set up a perfect 7-hex strike along with land based air, but then... STORMS. Bad weather prevented airstrikes the entire day to/from the KB. The land based air went in without the KB strikes and got badly chewed up by the Allied Death Star. So instead of a really good result, we had a really bad result, all due to weather. What could have been a titanic carrier clash fizzled into mist. The next day, the Allied fleet withdrew from Taberfane and the Japanese fleet came in to bombard... which didn't really go very well. We sank a few Allied DDs, but three Japanese destroyers hit mines and promptly sank and the Yamato ate two torpedoes from PT boats. Those PTs are possibly the most effective weapon in the Allied arsenal. Yamato should survive but what a terrible waste. Now, it looks like the situation has returned to the status quo, with the Japanese and Allied fleets not daring to leave their own air cover to attack the enemy. We'll see how the situation develops. Overall, the Taberfane campaign has now been raging for over two months and is turning into an attritional Kesselschlacht for both sides - probably more for the Japanese, unfortunately. This is our Guadalcanal. [image]local://upfiles/14041/D4DBA26194A04092B82DC861BE74E660.jpg[/image]

RangerJoe -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/4/2021 8:24:16 PM)
Ouch! [:(]

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/4/2021 8:25:37 PM)
His subs are really starting to sting. He's recently torpedoed 2 aircraft carriers, a battleship, and a cruiser, in addition to several tankers and over a dozen cargo ships. None of the warships sank but the damage is annoying. On the other hand, a lot of Allied subs are listed as recently sunk... in fact, more Allied subs have so far been sunk than were historically lost in the entire Pacific war. [image]local://upfiles/14041/43651801C36A43B1BDDD5A07691E0562.jpg[/image]

mind_messing -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/4/2021 9:41:18 PM)
quote: Kesselschlacht for both sides - probably more for the Japanese, unfortunately. This is our Guadalcanal. To be honest, it's a pretty decent place for you to fight. Nice and close to the DEI fuel and supply, and you've Makassar, Kendrai and Manadno to backstop your air efforts. Looking at your dispositions, building up around Biak is the right move to make, but I'd think about how you can put pressure on the Allies further back from the frontline. I'd look at building up Hansa Bay to put pressure on Merakue and the Allied shipping lanes through the Torres Strait. Hansa can go right up to level 9, and is a real nuisance to deal with if the Allies are on the wrong side of New Guinea, and if the Allies are at Taberfane, then strikes can come from a whole 270 degree arc...

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/6/2021 1:19:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mind_messing quote: Kesselschlacht for both sides - probably more for the Japanese, unfortunately. This is our Guadalcanal. To be honest, it's a pretty decent place for you to fight. Nice and close to the DEI fuel and supply, and you've Makassar, Kendrai and Manadno to backstop your air efforts. Looking at your dispositions, building up around Biak is the right move to make, but I'd think about how you can put pressure on the Allies further back from the frontline. I'd look at building up Hansa Bay to put pressure on Merakue and the Allied shipping lanes through the Torres Strait. Hansa can go right up to level 9, and is a real nuisance to deal with if the Allies are on the wrong side of New Guinea, and if the Allies are at Taberfane, then strikes can come from a whole 270 degree arc... Yes, it's not really a terrible region to defend. Way better than the Solomons for proximity to supply/fuel and also more important. I see the future as a slow slog match through the DEI, which the Allies will eventually win but I bet we'll be able to hold out for quite a whole. Unfortunately, I've now lost Buna and most stuff East of New Guinea except for Rabaul itself. He was doing a really good job protecting his supply line through the Torres strait anyway - not really sure there were many opportunities there.

RangerJoe -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/6/2021 1:32:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rader quote: ORIGINAL: mind_messing quote: Kesselschlacht for both sides - probably more for the Japanese, unfortunately. This is our Guadalcanal. To be honest, it's a pretty decent place for you to fight. Nice and close to the DEI fuel and supply, and you've Makassar, Kendrai and Manadno to backstop your air efforts. Looking at your dispositions, building up around Biak is the right move to make, but I'd think about how you can put pressure on the Allies further back from the frontline. I'd look at building up Hansa Bay to put pressure on Merakue and the Allied shipping lanes through the Torres Strait. Hansa can go right up to level 9, and is a real nuisance to deal with if the Allies are on the wrong side of New Guinea, and if the Allies are at Taberfane, then strikes can come from a whole 270 degree arc... Yes, it's not really a terrible region to defend. Way better than the Solomons for proximity to supply/fuel and also more important. I see the future as a slow slog match through the DEI, which the Allies will eventually win but I bet we'll be able to hold out for quite a whole. Unfortunately, I've now lost Buna and most stuff East of New Guinea except for Rabaul itself. He was doing a really good job protecting his supply line through the Torres strait anyway - not really sure there were many opportunities there. Maybe lay some minefields using subs. From the back side of New Guinea, if you have Naval Search, then maybe fighter bombers and torpedo bombers flying at 100 feet or 1000 feet. They might be able to attack before his CAP can react.

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/19/2021 7:06:20 PM)
It's been a busy week in both the game and also in real life, so I haven't had a chance to post, but there was a big battle at Taberfane.

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/19/2021 7:54:53 PM)
It was such a busy turn that I'll just post elements of the combat report with comments because witpqs does a great job with that: October 17, 1943: The Japanese fleet moves to forward positions, hoping the Allied fleet would also come forward and offer battle. We'd been playing cat & mouse for months, with the Allied fleet dashing forward to provide CAP or supply to Taberfane, and the Japanese fleet occasionally coming forward but often holding back. Neither side wanted to engage without support from their own land-based aircraft. First a minor destroyer picket skirmish: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kai-eilanden at 82,114, Range 7,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Hatakaze, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Minekaze, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Yukaze Allied Ships DD Eaton DD Hutchins DD Nicholas DD Philip DD Taylor DD Wadsworth Improved night sighting under 85% moonlight Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 85% moonlight: 8,000 yards An Allied cruiser force avoids combat with Japanese heavy units: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Gorong at 81,113, Range 29,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Nagato BB Fuso BB Yamashiro BB Ise BB Hyuga CA Tone CA Chokai CA Myoko CA Aoba CA Kako CL Kiso CL Oi CLAA Tatsuta DD Hatsukaze DD Shiranui DD Amatsukaze DD Hamakaze DD Arashi DD Asashio DD Natsugumo DD Amagiri DD Uzuki DD Kamikaze DD Harukaze DD Yunagi Allied Ships CA Indianapolis CA Canberra DD Abbot DD Converse DD Pringle DD Renshaw Improved night sighting under 85% moonlight Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 85% moonlight: 8,000 yards Range closes to 27,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 27,000 yards Range closes to 25,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 25,000 yards Range closes to 23,000 yards... Range closes to 21,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 21,000 yards Range closes to 19,000 yards... Range closes to 17,000 yards... Range closes to 15,000 yards... Range closes to 13,000 yards... Range closes to 11,000 yards... Range closes to 10,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards Range closes to 9,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 9,000 yards Allied TF attempts to evade combat Range increases to 14,000 yards... Range increases to 19,000 yards... Range increases to 24,000 yards... Range increases to 29,000 yards... Range increases to 29,000 yards... Allied Surface Combat TF evades combat Another picket skirmish: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Kai-eilanden at 82,114, Range 7,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Makigumo, Shell hits 1 DD Takanami DD Oyashio DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships CA Indianapolis CA Canberra DD Abbot, Shell hits 1 DD Converse, Shell hits 1 DD Pringle DD Renshaw Some sub attacks: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Kai-eilanden at 82,114 Japanese Ships DD Minekaze, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Yukaze Allied Ships SS KXII SS KXII is sighted by escort KXII diving deep .... DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yukaze attacking submerged sub .... DD Yukaze loses contact with SS KXII DD Yukaze fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Gorong at 81,113 Japanese Ships SC Ch 41 Allied Ships SS Grunion SS Grunion launches 2 torpedoes at SC Ch 41 Grunion diving deep .... SC Ch 41 fails to find sub, continues to search... SC Ch 41 fails to find sub, continues to search... SC Ch 41 fails to find sub, continues to search... SC Ch 41 fails to find sub, continues to search... SC Ch 41 fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub Then, the Allied plan is revealed. A long series of night attacks from the Allied carriers. I think he was trying to catch the Japanese fleet without night CAP and sneak through for a few lucky hits. Luckily this didn't work all that well (though it was still a bit of a nail biter and a few hits were scored): quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on TF, near Gorong at 81,113 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 28 minutes Allied aircraft SBD-5 Dauntless x 85 TBF-1 Avenger x 18 Allied aircraft losses SBD-5 Dauntless: 38 damaged SBD-5 Dauntless: 3 destroyed by flak TBF-1 Avenger: 5 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Hiyo CVL Chiyoda CV Kasagi DD Maikaze, Shell hits 2 CVL Shoho CV Shinano CV Unryu CV Kaga CVL Ryuho DD Yuzuki CVL Zuiho CVL Chitose CV Hiryu CVL Mizuho CVL Nisshin CV Ikoma DD Asagiri CV Shokaku DD Urukaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire CVE Shinyo, Bomb hits 1, on fire CV Soryu CVL Ryujo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on TF, near Gorong at 81,113 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Allied aircraft B-25G Mitchell x 5 Allied aircraft losses B-25G Mitchell: 5 damaged Japanese Ships DD Yuzuki DD Ayanami CV Hiryu DD Urukaze, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 5 x B-25G Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on TF, near Gorong at 81,113 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft SBD-5 Dauntless x 8 Allied aircraft losses SBD-5 Dauntless: 5 damaged Japanese Ships CVL Zuiho CVL Mizuho -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on TF, near Gorong at 81,113 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Allied aircraft SBD-5 Dauntless x 11 Allied aircraft losses SBD-5 Dauntless: 5 damaged SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Kaga CVL Mizuho CVL Nisshin CVL Chitose -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on TF, near Gorong at 81,113 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Allied aircraft TBF-1 Avenger x 7 Allied aircraft losses TBF-1 Avenger: 4 damaged Japanese Ships CV Aso CV Soryu Aircraft Attacking: 7 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on TF, near Gorong at 81,113 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft SBD-5 Dauntless x 8 Allied aircraft losses SBD-5 Dauntless: 2 damaged SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Ikoma CV Unryu Aircraft Attacking: 8 x SBD-5 Dauntless bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on TF, near Gorong at 81,113 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft B-25D1 Mitchell x 4 Allied aircraft losses B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CVE Taiyo CA Nachi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on TF, near Gorong at 81,113 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Allied aircraft TBF-1 Avenger x 5 Allied aircraft losses TBF-1 Avenger: 2 damaged Japanese Ships CV Kasagi CV Aso Aircraft Attacking: 5 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on TF, near Gorong at 81,113 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft SBD-5 Dauntless x 9 Allied aircraft losses SBD-5 Dauntless: 5 damaged Japanese Ships CV Soryu CV Ikoma Aircraft Attacking: 9 x SBD-5 Dauntless bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb Then Allied destroyers finish off a Japanese picket and run from Japanese heavies: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Kai-eilanden at 82,114, Range 17,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Hatsuharu, Shell hits 10, heavy fires Allied Ships DD Eaton, Shell hits 1 DD Hutchins DD Nicholas DD Philip DD Taylor DD Wadsworth, Shell hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Gorong at 81,113, Range 29,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Nagato BB Fuso BB Yamashiro BB Ise BB Hyuga CA Tone CA Chokai CA Myoko CA Aoba CA Kako CL Kiso CL Oi CLAA Tatsuta DD Hatsukaze DD Shiranui DD Amatsukaze DD Hamakaze DD Arashi DD Asashio DD Natsugumo DD Amagiri DD Uzuki DD Kamikaze DD Harukaze DD Yunagi Allied Ships DD Eaton DD Hutchins DD Nicholas DD Philip DD Taylor DD Wadsworth And get the better of some more pickets and then run away again: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Gorong at 81,112, Range 17,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Makigumo, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Takanami, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Oyashio, Shell hits 5, on fire DD Hayashio, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Eaton, Shell hits 2 DD Hutchins, Shell hits 1 DD Nicholas, Shell hits 2 DD Philip, Shell hits 1 DD Taylor, Shell hits 1 DD Wadsworth -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Gorong at 81,113, Range 29,000 Yards Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Hiei BB Kirishima BB Mutsu CA Maya CA Ashigara CA Suzuya CL Nagara CL Isuzu CL Kinu CL Abukuma DD Kazegumo DD Isokaze DD Tanikaze DD Michishio DD Arashio DD Sazanami DD Yayoi DD Satsuki DD Kikuzuki DD Mikazuki DD Myojinami DD Suruyame DD Tadeyame DD Takakaze Allied Ships DD Eaton DD Hutchins DD Nicholas DD Philip DD Taylor DD Wadsworth Allied Surface Combat TF evades combat And then, oof, this happened: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Gorong at 81,113 Japanese Ships CV Shinano, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CA Nachi CL Tama DD Tachikaze DD Asanagi DD Nenohi DD Yamanagiri DD Suresushio DD Tachekaze DD Uruyuke Allied Ships SS Thresher Ammo storage explosion on CV Shinano SS Thresher launches 6 torpedoes at CV Shinano Thresher diving deep .... DD Yamanagiri fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Suresushio fails to find sub and abandons search DD Tachekaze fails to find sub and abandons search DD Uruyuke fails to find sub and abandons search DD Yamanagiri fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yamanagiri fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yamanagiri fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Yamanagiri attacking submerged sub .... Escort abandons search for sub Shinano was in trouble because she'd already eaten a torpedo from another sub earlier but I decided to keep her in action nonetheless. It was starting out as a really bad day. Then the usual Allied bombardment which happens somewhere almost every day: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Dobo at 83,116 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 57 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed on ground N1K1-J George: 30 damaged E13A1 Jake: 3 damaged D4Y1 Judy: 14 damaged D4Y2 Judy: 12 damaged Allied Ships CL Montpelier CL Columbia DD Shaw DD Sims DD McCalla DD Sigsbee DD Bullard DD Anthony Japanese ground losses: 40 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 53 Port hits 10 Port supply hits 2 CL Montpelier firing at Dobo CL Columbia firing at 9th Ind.Mixed Brigade DD Shaw firing at Dobo DD Sims firing at Dobo DD McCalla firing at Dobo DD Sigsbee firing at 22nd Division DD Bullard firing at Dobo DD Anthony firing at Dobo But then the Kido Butai and Japanese land-based air forces finished sipping their morning sake and got to work: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 25 minutes Japanese aircraft B6N1 Jill x 65 N1K1-J George x 10 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 45 Martlet IV x 38 F4F-3A Wildcat x 6 F4F-4 Wildcat x 44 FM-1 Wildcat x 61 F6F-3 Hellcat x 537 Japanese aircraft losses B6N1 Jill: 46 destroyed N1K1-J George: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed Ok so that wasn't great, most of the strike lost without a single bomber getting through. But the first Kido Butai strike was perfectly coordinated: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 27 A6M5 Zero x 298 A6M5b Zero x 22 A6M5c Zero x 92 B6N1 Jill x 356 B6N2 Jill x 15 B6N2a Jill x 15 D4Y1 Judy x 158 D4Y2 Judy x 123 D4Y3 Judy x 47 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 45 Martlet IV x 38 F4F-3A Wildcat x 6 F4F-4 Wildcat x 44 FM-1 Wildcat x 61 F6F-3 Hellcat x 523 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed A6M5 Zero: 11 destroyed A6M5b Zero: 2 destroyed A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed B6N1 Jill: 57 destroyed, 7 damaged B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak B6N2a Jill: 2 destroyed D4Y1 Judy: 30 destroyed, 14 damaged D4Y1 Judy: 3 destroyed by flak D4Y2 Judy: 17 destroyed, 6 damaged D4Y2 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak D4Y3 Judy: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Martlet IV: 1 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 6 destroyed FM-1 Wildcat: 2 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 13 destroyed Allied Ships CV Hornet CV Wasp, Bomb hits 1, on fire CLAA Oakland, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CVE Barnes, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CVE Casablanca, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CVE Prince William, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CVE Anzio, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk CVE Santee, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk CVE Altamaha, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Natoma Bay, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CVE Nassau, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk DD McCall, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires CLAA San Juan, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CVL Belleau Wood CV Enterprise CLAA Reno, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DD Tucker, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Mahan, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Sampson, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Aylwin, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DD Perkins, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk DD Cummings, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Craven, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CVL Independence CV New England BB South Dakota Ammo storage explosion on CVE Prince William Ammo storage explosion on CVE Anzio Fuel storage explosion on CVE Natoma Bay Fuel storage explosion on CVE Nassau Ammo storage explosion on CVE Casablanca Ammo storage explosion on CVE Casablanca Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CLAA Oakland Ammo storage explosion on CVE Natoma Bay Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Barnes Fuel storage explosion on CVE Altamaha Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Altamaha Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Nassau Heavy smoke from fires obscuring an Allied DD Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Prince William Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Aylwin Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Mahan Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Tucker Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Perkins Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CLAA San Juan Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Craven A heavy blow to the Allied CVEs at a high cost in Japanese pilots and planes, but unfortunately the strike missed most of the fleet carriers. And a few laggards came in but got badly chewed up without making a dent: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K1-J George x 127 N1K2-J George x 28 P1Y1 Frances x 18 Ki-84a Frank x 31 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 44 Martlet IV x 37 F4F-3A Wildcat x 6 F4F-4 Wildcat x 41 FM-1 Wildcat x 59 F6F-3 Hellcat x 491 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 13 destroyed N1K2-J George: 5 destroyed P1Y1 Frances: 12 destroyed Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 2 destroyed Martlet IV: 1 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed FM-1 Wildcat: 2 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 6 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 20 minutes Japanese aircraft D4Y1 Judy x 13 N1K2-J George x 42 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 38 Martlet IV x 34 F4F-3A Wildcat x 6 F4F-4 Wildcat x 36 FM-1 Wildcat x 52 F6F-3 Hellcat x 461 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y1 Judy: 9 destroyed N1K2-J George: 11 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 1 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed FM-1 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 104 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 26 minutes Japanese aircraft D4Y2 Judy x 62 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 35 Martlet IV x 34 F4F-3A Wildcat x 6 F4F-4 Wildcat x 32 FM-1 Wildcat x 48 F6F-3 Hellcat x 428 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y2 Judy: 11 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 83 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft D3A1 Val x 24 N1K2-J George x 34 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 34 Martlet IV x 33 F4F-3A Wildcat x 6 F4F-4 Wildcat x 29 FM-1 Wildcat x 44 F6F-3 Hellcat x 390 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 17 destroyed N1K2-J George: 9 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 1 destroyed Martlet IV: 1 destroyed F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed FM-1 Wildcat: 3 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K1-J George x 55 N1K2-J George x 62 Ki-49-IIa Helen x 12 Ki-84a Frank x 30 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 30 Martlet IV x 29 F4F-3A Wildcat x 4 F4F-4 Wildcat x 29 FM-1 Wildcat x 36 F6F-3 Hellcat x 347 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed N1K2-J George: 11 destroyed Ki-49-IIa Helen: 6 destroyed Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed by flak Ki-84a Frank: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 1 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships CVL Princeton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 24 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 27 Martlet IV x 29 F4F-3A Wildcat x 3 F4F-4 Wildcat x 27 FM-1 Wildcat x 33 F6F-3 Hellcat x 322 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 4 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 9 Ki-84a Frank x 36 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 24 Martlet IV x 27 F4F-3A Wildcat x 3 F4F-4 Wildcat x 25 FM-1 Wildcat x 31 F6F-3 Hellcat x 304 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 6 destroyed Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak Ki-84a Frank: 10 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-1 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships DD Cummings, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIa Helen x 10 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 22 Martlet IV x 26 F4F-3A Wildcat x 2 F4F-4 Wildcat x 22 FM-1 Wildcat x 26 F6F-3 Hellcat x 259 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIa Helen x 4 Ki-84a Frank x 24 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 22 Martlet IV x 26 F4F-3A Wildcat x 2 F4F-4 Wildcat x 22 FM-1 Wildcat x 26 F6F-3 Hellcat x 247 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak Ki-84a Frank: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-1 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CV Yorktown -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIa Helen x 6 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 21 Martlet IV x 26 F4F-3A Wildcat x 2 F4F-4 Wildcat x 22 FM-1 Wildcat x 25 F6F-3 Hellcat x 230 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIa Helen: 4 destroyed No Allied losses That could have been the end of it, trading a bunch of Japanese planes and pilots for a few lost CVEs. While I was contemplating if the result was even worth the cost, Admiral Ozawa was giving a rousing speech to his air group commanders, extoling them to launch a second strike before the main Allied fleet could escape. Japanese pilots swallowed one last round of sake and took to the air in pursuit of the retreating Allied fleet: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 31 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 25 A6M5 Zero x 269 A6M5b Zero x 18 A6M5c Zero x 89 B6N1 Jill x 222 B6N2 Jill x 15 B6N2a Jill x 12 D4Y1 Judy x 97 D4Y2 Judy x 82 D4Y3 Judy x 35 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 35 Martlet IV x 30 F4F-4 Wildcat x 11 F6F-3 Hellcat x 335 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed B6N1 Jill: 40 destroyed, 8 damaged B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak B6N2 Jill: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged B6N2a Jill: 2 damaged D4Y1 Judy: 19 destroyed, 10 damaged D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak D4Y2 Judy: 17 destroyed, 1 damaged D4Y2 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak D4Y3 Judy: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 1 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed Allied Ships CVL Belleau Wood, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Lexington, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Hornet, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage BB South Dakota, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk CV Manhattan, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Saratoga, Torpedo hits 4, heavy damage CV Wasp, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Helm DD Sterett, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk CV New England, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 1 CV Essex, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CVL Independence, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CVL Princeton, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CLAA San Diego DD Benham, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Dewey CLAA Atlanta, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage DD Stack Fuel storage explosion on CVL Belleau Wood Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Belleau Wood Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hornet Ammo storage explosion on CV New England Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV New England Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Essex Fuel storage explosion on CVL Belleau Wood Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Lexington Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Princeton Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Manhattan Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Enterprise Then, to end the day, a series of ineffective land-based air attacks harassed the Allied fleet while Hellcat pilots sought revenge: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K1-J George x 88 N1K2-J George x 20 P1Y1 Frances x 3 Ki-84a Frank x 42 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 33 Martlet IV x 30 F4F-4 Wildcat x 10 F6F-3 Hellcat x 320 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 6 destroyed P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K1-J George x 46 N1K2-J George x 36 Ki-49-IIa Helen x 41 Ki-84a Frank x 16 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 30 Martlet IV x 30 F4F-4 Wildcat x 10 F6F-3 Hellcat x 310 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 6 destroyed N1K2-J George: 3 destroyed Ki-49-IIa Helen: 20 destroyed, 7 damaged Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed by flak Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Martlet IV: 1 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CL Mobile CV Essex, on fire, heavy damage CV Yorktown DD Gwin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 27 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 30 Martlet IV x 29 F4F-4 Wildcat x 9 F6F-3 Hellcat x 296 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak No Allied losses Allied Ships BB Washington -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Dobo at 83,115 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 9 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 7 damaged Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak Allied Ships DD Hutchins DD Eaton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIa Helen x 18 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 27 Martlet IV x 28 F4F-4 Wildcat x 8 F6F-3 Hellcat x 265 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIa Helen: 9 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIa Helen x 6 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 26 Martlet IV x 28 F4F-4 Wildcat x 8 F6F-3 Hellcat x 254 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,116 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIa Helen x 6 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 26 Martlet IV x 28 F4F-4 Wildcat x 8 F6F-3 Hellcat x 250 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIa Helen: 4 destroyed No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taberfane at 82,117 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-49-IIa Helen x 4 Allied aircraft F4F-3A Wildcat x 2 F4F-4 Wildcat x 9 FM-1 Wildcat x 20 F6F-3 Hellcat x 16 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed No Allied losses Allied Ships AO Patoka

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/19/2021 7:56:51 PM)
The cost was high, with around 1,000 Japanese planes lost and hundreds of pilots but clearly the results were well worth it. [image]local://upfiles/14041/E84248EF1999409A977880120AE24051.jpg[/image]

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/19/2021 8:14:01 PM)
The next day, Ozawa contemplated pursuit but chose to fall back to friendly air cover because he didn't want to risk entering the Allied land-based air and submarine zone of death and KB air groups were heavily depleted. It's hard to say how many Allied ships actually went down. It's been about a few days since the battle, and every day we get reports of a ship or two sinking, either succumbing to their wounds or simply FOW. Reports say that 5 Allied CVs, 2 CVLs, and 7 CVEs went down, plus BB South Dakota and some CLs and DDs. I think some of those CVs may survive because Allied damage control is so darned good. My best guess at actual losses are: CV Saratoga (7 torpedo hits, 4 from aircraft and 3 after by sub) CV Lexington (6 bomb hits, 2 torpedo hits) CV Wasp (2 bomb hits, 3 torpedo hits, and she's a bit more fragile) Possibly one but not all of: Hornet (2B/2T), Enterprise (2B/1T), Manhattan (4B/2T), Essex (2B/1T), or New England (4B) Definitely not Yorktown (only 1 bomb hit) Possibly up to 2-3xCVL (watched Independence sink, Princeton took 5B/1T though some bombs didn't penetrate, Belleau Wood took 2B/1T) 8x CVE (8 were hit with more than 1 bomb/torpedo and they're highly flammable) BB South Dakota definitely went down because our pilots watched her sink Plus 2-3 CLAAs and about half a dozen DDs [image]local://upfiles/14041/335DCDB124744398B2CD34F74BD18B6B.jpg[/image]

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/19/2021 8:21:39 PM)
All in all, a wonderful result for the Kudo Butai. I think the Allies will still win the war due to crushingly powerful 1945 reinforcements, but no doubt this will set back their advance. This will be an interesting game that I think will go to 1946. I expect in the long run for the Allies to eventually get to Japan's doorstep but the game should come down to the wire. Richard has confirmed that he thinks this will slow him down but he's still eager to persevere and play on.

RangerJoe -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/19/2021 9:03:07 PM)
Very nicely done! [&o] I think that was worth the cost. Go back to a previous save and compare the ship sunk numbers and points. Tracker should help with this if you have it running. Consider night bombing ports within range plus mining, whether by air or sub. Fast bombardment missions could also help if they can get through and not too bogged down by enemy SCTFs and PT screens. Even minisubs from Dobo to Taberfane.

PaxMondo -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/19/2021 10:15:26 PM)
Great job!!! [&o][&o][&o]

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/20/2021 1:13:14 AM)
I'm trying a new tactic to clear out his PT boats... George straffing runs. We hit them with a bunch of 20 mm cannon shots, but who know if this actually does anything? I don't get reports of them sinking. How many cannon hits does it take to sink a PT boat? (The bomb hits clearly get them) Morning Air attack on TF, near Dobo at 83,115 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft N1K1-J George x 23 No Japanese losses Allied Ships PT-184, Shell hits 17, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk PT-182, Shell hits 13 PT-234, Shell hits 3 Aircraft Attacking: 23 x N1K1-J George bombing from 100 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/20/2021 1:14:37 AM)
And his mines around Taberfane keep sinking my destroyers. How do we clear them out when they're protected by his PT boats so that we can safely bombard? The PT/mine combination is cheap but deadly effective.

RangerJoe -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/20/2021 2:21:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rader And his mines around Taberfane keep sinking my destroyers. How do we clear them out when they're protected by his PT boats so that we can safely bombard? The PT/mine combination is cheap but deadly effective. Stand off, do not get too close to the base. Also, put in some DMS with your bombardment TF. Use Float Jakes on Low Naval at 100 feet on his PT Boats.

PaxMondo -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/20/2021 4:15:46 AM)
PT's: not too many hits to sink one is my experience .... I've used Nicks and they are very effective against them ...

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/21/2021 6:26:43 AM)
For Jakes at 100 ft, would that be LowN skill or strafe? My George pilots hit a lot with cannons but only a bit with bombs. They generally have good straffing skills but not so much LowN. I assume at 100 ft, strafe would be used for gunfire, while LowN would still be used for bombs... or is LowN only used for 1000-6000 ft and bombs at 100ft are still strafe?

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/21/2021 6:27:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe quote: ORIGINAL: rader And his mines around Taberfane keep sinking my destroyers. How do we clear them out when they're protected by his PT boats so that we can safely bombard? The PT/mine combination is cheap but deadly effective. Stand off, do not get too close to the base. Also, put in some DMS with your bombardment TF. Use Float Jakes on Low Naval at 100 feet on his PT Boats. Wish I had some DMS, but converted them all to Es.

RangerJoe -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/21/2021 1:34:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rader For Jakes at 100 ft, would that be LowN skill or strafe? My George pilots hit a lot with cannons but only a bit with bombs. They generally have good straffing skills but not so much LowN. I assume at 100 ft, strafe would be used for gunfire, while LowN would still be used for bombs... or is LowN only used for 1000-6000 ft and bombs at 100ft are still strafe? The LowN and the LowG altitudes have been changed so they are no longer 1000-6000 feet.

BBfanboy -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/21/2021 5:47:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe quote: ORIGINAL: rader For Jakes at 100 ft, would that be LowN skill or strafe? My George pilots hit a lot with cannons but only a bit with bombs. They generally have good straffing skills but not so much LowN. I assume at 100 ft, strafe would be used for gunfire, while LowN would still be used for bombs... or is LowN only used for 1000-6000 ft and bombs at 100ft are still strafe? The LowN and the LowG altitudes have been changed so they are no longer 1000-6000 feet. Below 2000 feet is low attack, except 100 feet is always strafing attack (which can include bombs dropping but only the Strafe Skill is used or trained).

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/23/2021 6:57:52 AM)
October 25, 1943. Rather annoyed - I set some Japanese ships to bombard Taberfane and for some reason Chokai and Harukaze stuck around into daylight (they detached from the fleet, but no indication they were damaged) and in the morning a swarm of Helldivers came in and planted tons of bombs into them. No idea why they detached and stuck around. They ended up staying in the Taberfane hex, which wouldn't really even make sense if they were a bit damaged. Only idea I can think of is Chokai hitting a mine, but there was no indicator she was damaged and no report of a mine hit. Any ideas? [image]local://upfiles/14041/E277705F41D847C6881C53F010CAE037.jpg[/image]

dhorkoff -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/23/2021 10:57:11 PM)
Collision? Anything listed in the ops report?

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (6/24/2021 12:19:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dhorkoff Collision? Anything listed in the ops report? Only thing in the ops report is "CA Chokai sinks at sea" [8\|] She didn't appear to be damaged even after the first dive bomber attack (at least not heavy damage listed even after a few bomb hits) so it didn't seem like a mine or collision.

rader -> RE: Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!) (7/18/2021 11:21:05 PM)
This seems like an odd combat result: (I know casualties are based on firepower not assault value, but still seems a bit out of proportion to have no Allied casualties when they're significantly outmatched in swampy terrain?) [image]local://upfiles/14041/047EC3EFF5FF4DBE8AEA588889370CEA.jpg[/image]

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