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rustysi -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/27/2020 6:47:15 PM)

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Miri has lost almost 50 oil to Dutch bombers now flying in the daytime.


Sad.[:(]

I'll bet dollars to donuts that a handful of Pete's flying off an AV could handle those guys.




rustysi -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/27/2020 6:50:25 PM)

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I generally lose the Kashino early, pushing her too far forward.


But that's just being aggressive. Besides I'll bet by that time you have many more in the conversion pipeline.




rustysi -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/27/2020 6:58:59 PM)

Egads, with all of my time invested in this beast, what if I do as poorly in my first PBEM? Would I have to quit gaming?[X(]

Seriously though, at this point I'm guessing its just a player mismatch, or your opponents' opening is something new that he botched.




RangerJoe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/27/2020 8:15:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

for you bloodthirsty types

You mean all of us? [:D]


I do not drink blood. I don't think that I would like bloodwine then. I try to eat lots of garlic to keep the bloodsucking females away. I do tell the young ladies that. [;)]

I do not care for blood sausage either.

I also prefer my meat cooked and not still mooing.




offenseman -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/27/2020 11:43:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

Congrats!
with this defeat, he will have to delay for at least for a couple weeks; you can now guarantee total control of Palembang's approaches until sometime in late January

big mistake for Japan... it is late December, and not even the mini KB in support of critical operations!

That could be the part of the "adventurous opening" some recent IJ players are thinking of but not thinking through. Charging off in a deep thrust on turn one means the critical first targets are not covered well enough. Lowpe seems to have seen these weaknesses coming from the pre-game discussions about how far the magic move TFs could go. The value of having played the IJ side for years is showing in his play as Allies now.


Right on the money. Play enough as Japan and you know exactly what to do to ruin the early Japanese plans. Looking at this I see midsummer looming and several key points not taken and having become a Vietnam for IJ. The clock is ticking for Japan at the start and any lost time even a week can be devastating.




RangerJoe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/28/2020 12:18:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: offenseman


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

Congrats!
with this defeat, he will have to delay for at least for a couple weeks; you can now guarantee total control of Palembang's approaches until sometime in late January

big mistake for Japan... it is late December, and not even the mini KB in support of critical operations!

That could be the part of the "adventurous opening" some recent IJ players are thinking of but not thinking through. Charging off in a deep thrust on turn one means the critical first targets are not covered well enough. Lowpe seems to have seen these weaknesses coming from the pre-game discussions about how far the magic move TFs could go. The value of having played the IJ side for years is showing in his play as Allies now.


Right on the money. Play enough as Japan and you know exactly what to do to ruin the early Japanese plans. Looking at this I see midsummer looming and several key points not taken and having become a Vietnam for IJ. The clock is ticking for Japan at the start and any lost time even a week can be devastating.


Two day turns during the amphibious bonus makes it worse.




jdsrae -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/28/2020 1:43:38 AM)

I’m having a few flashbacks to the opening months in my current game.
The Dude did share via email that he was trying to reinforce Palembang but whenever he got troop ships close I’d have the KB pop up in the Java Sea and spook him. It got hairy a few times with Dutch subs hitting CV Hiryu from memory, but the continued presence of KB meant the allies ended up abandoning attempts to reinforce Sumatra and Java.
I felt the pressure of running behind the schedule that others on this forum would set, but I also didn’t want to push amphibious TFs forward of air and surface cover as that would have risked the results we are seeing here.
Tough months ahead for Japan in this game. It will need a deliberate approach from here to try and gain air superiority and grind it out on the ground, but that will take patience and time...




Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/28/2020 11:58:53 AM)

The first Americal unit arrived, and will head to Cape Town....for Palembang.

Naval search being established across the Pacific now...Howland has Cats watching Tabiteuea...plenty of ambushes are prepped, but he glacial advance of the Japanese had the poor sailors in a holding position.

Move all the string beans to Borneo, Marblehead and company to Borneo, and Mauritius heads for some minor repairs.

USN BB getting their radar upgardes.







Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 10:44:52 AM)

Jan 2, 1942

Finally get intel on all the IJN CVs, and more. It seems the appearance of Lady Lex and Big E hitting the original Wake Invasion force caused the short KB near Luzon to head east and the weakened KB to hunt my girls for several turns.[:)]

Have a group of 5 Sboats heading to Marcus...so Japan is going to over allocate and waste a week retaking Marcus.



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Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 11:00:47 AM)

The critical theater....Tarakan invaded.

Swordfish, Vildebeest, and Wirraways! Oh, my!

Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 7
Vildebeest III x 14
Wirraway x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Santos Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Raizan Maru
xAKL Hidaka Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Zyuyo Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Meiyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
234 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 10

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Meiyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Zyuyo Maru, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk
xAK Atago Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
1138 casualties reported
Squads: 51 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (9 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 14

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Meiyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Hidaka Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Santos Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Shirayuki

Japanese ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Raizan Maru, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
DD Hatsuyuki

Japanese ground losses:
508 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 19 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled







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Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 11:07:05 AM)

Phase 3 of the Pacific Gambit is on hold, due to heavy IJN surface fleets present, while Phase 4 is a go but on a smaller scale...





Alfred -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 11:14:17 AM)

There is no excuse for Japan's play at Tarakan.

Alfred




Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 11:58:31 AM)

Well, let us see what the British light cruisers can accomplish today...at Tarakan![sm=00000106.gif] Not to mention 10 subs with bad torpedoes.

Phase four invasion is a go, landing next turn...

Indomitable and Yorktown are here...

Boise is being repaired at Portland...system damage and engine damage from two 2 day flank runs to avoid the IJN.

Marblehead and company are bombarding Miri...

And other assorted sundry attacks.




Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 12:32:29 PM)

I am crying in Japanese

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Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 5:20:59 PM)

Jan 4th, 1942

Light Cruiser Danae sallies forth...and teaches the IJN another lesson!

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Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 5:25:59 PM)

The Dutch steam in to Taraken … and steam out again a little worse off!

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Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 5:30:21 PM)

But during a rain storm in the morning hours, the British show up for a fight!

The American sailors are amazed by the show the Dragon and Durban put on...they try to keep up.



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Jorge_Stanbury -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 5:34:07 PM)

DDs John D Edwards and Piet Hein should replenish at sea and then run away full speed

Durban and Java should be left to their fate, no point in wasting DDs on them




Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 5:37:30 PM)

Lousy IJN find a flaw in our search patterns and avoid the aerial watchers....but now the Canberra must exact some revenge!

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Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 5:45:38 PM)

960 AV at Palembang...

A very good bombardment, since I failed to put a floatplane on recon...just high DL from days and days of aerial bombing and recon.





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Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 5:46:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

DDs John D Edwards and Piet Hein should replenish at sea and then run away full speed

Durban and Java should be left to their fate, no point in wasting DDs on them


Wow, is that anyway for the Allies to play?[;)]






Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 5:50:29 PM)

Surprise!



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Don't worry, they will unload![;)]




Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 6:00:34 PM)

I see them coming.

Marcus got heavily shelled by Battleships and Cruisers. I guess they need to go back to Marianas to be rearmed. That leaves the KB, which should have formed up these two days to watch over the Wake Invasion. No way am I sending in Warspite and company until I get better intel.



Night Naval bombardment of Marcus Island at 123,85

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
CA Atago
CA Takao
CL Jintsu
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arashio
DD Michishio
DD Oshio
DD Asashio

Allied ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 40
Port hits 14
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 8

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RangerJoe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 6:03:29 PM)

"Do not unload" for Shikuka? I hope that gets changed!




Evoken -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 6:05:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Surprise!



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Don't worry, they will unload![;)]

[X(] Is this to activate Japanese Emergency reinforcements ?




RangerJoe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 6:13:18 PM)

If your crippled ships go to Samarinda on Coastal routing, it is shorter and they can dewater some there. Or even right next door to Tarakan, disband and dewater. If unseen, they would get at least two days of dewatering which could help a lot depending upon their minor flooding amount. Even then, a port strike may not target two ships and his combat vessels may be low on ammo plus have other jobs available. Then any specific attack on them takes two days away from other specific targets.

I mean, two days of dewaterng for the Java might make a world of difference on her speed and the Durban could then stay another day. That would lower the risk of being spotted as well as tie down any SC TFs hanging around for the cripples.

It looks like your intentional search gap near Rabaul might work to your advance, enticing an enemy task force in for a [sm=fighting0056.gif] but where is the KB?




Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 6:30:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Evoken


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Surprise!



[image]local://upfiles/44178/D867F181E2F84845A02BD2C9931FB6FA.jpg[/image]

Don't worry, they will unload![;)]

[X(] Is this to activate Japanese Emergency reinforcements ?


Different country code...this is to take the oil and other reasons.




Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 6:30:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

"Do not unload" for Shikuka? I hope that gets changed!


Read the small print under the picture.[;)]




RangerJoe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 7:16:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

"Do not unload" for Shikuka? I hope that gets changed!


Read the small print under the picture.[;)]


Who bothers to read the fine print? [&:]




Lowpe -> RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A) (8/29/2020 11:22:42 PM)

Jan 6th, 1942

Canberra strikes ….

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