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BrianG -> brianG v tyronec anatomy of disaster all welcome (7/22/2020 10:34:42 PM)

another large war, Stalin called it quits when he finally lost his last city in his home country of Georgia. Heart broke. He was taken away, never to be seen again.

I'll start with the ending photos

i fully realize the end game would have looked different If the game was played bitter end versus vc290. I was unaware of the VC 290. Tyronec was not.

The East: I had trapped 2 Rumanian mountain divisions and was starting to feel giddy.

His rr line was still under zoc pressure, and these German troops near Chkalov would be on 3 turns of no supply. I was assuming after taking Gorky he would have moved panzers to other sectors but it is blizzard and would take time for him to get relief in the east.


My units cut off in the Guriev port area included a guards cav corp, a guards inf corp and 3 other infantry corp ( 2 surrendered trying to move North). As of this map these units are only 8 hexes separated from being resupplied. I think they would have been rescued next turn.

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BrianG -> RE: brian v tyronec all welcome (7/22/2020 10:37:30 PM)

In the last 2 turns Tyronec took both Penza and Arazmir in direct frontal assualt.

I was starting to retreat from this area after i lost these cities. I would try and hold Gorky though.

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BrianG -> RE: brian v tyronec all welcome (7/22/2020 10:42:05 PM)

my Gorky defense. South of Gorky retreat. North of is hold at all cost.

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BrianG -> RE: brian v tyronec all welcome (7/22/2020 10:43:47 PM)

far north

Ive cut off a german inf div.

But this whole area would have been fought differently the last few turns by Tyronec if it had been bitter end

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BrianG -> RE: brian v tyronec all welcome (7/22/2020 10:45:10 PM)

my units reinforcement schedule

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BrianG -> RE: brian v tyronec all welcome (7/22/2020 10:45:47 PM)

turn 77 kia.

I thought the German army was starting to wear down. Are casualties heavy for the Germans at this stage?

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chaos45 -> RE: brian v tyronec all welcome (7/23/2020 9:40:01 AM)

As to German losses not really....in 1942 the axis can afford to lose around 30k men a week all told without any serious negative effects.



BrianG -> RE: brian v tyronec all welcome (7/23/2020 9:19:42 PM)

quote:

As to German losses not really....in 1942 the axis can afford to lose around 30k men a week all told without any serious negative effects.


His forces were in action for 2 straight years except for mud and even then he moved infantry. 860,000 kia seems high.

I will not discuss my puny force, it was improving at the end.

But, unfortunately, the partisans war is really useless atm. I had maybe 15 cuts in the entire war, maybe more but certainly not nearly enough for how many men surrendered (or escaped into the forest).



BrianG -> many frame recap turn 1 (7/23/2020 9:47:09 PM)

so my nw front hq and nw air hq end up in nowhere land, northwest of Riga. good start.

and then i try and figure out how many bombs each stuka drops. 66 bombers destroy 266 planes . They must have cluster bombs.

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BrianG -> RE: many frame recap turn 1 (7/23/2020 9:48:06 PM)

air kia turn1

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BrianG -> RE: many frame recap turn 1 (7/23/2020 9:49:32 PM)

Lineup to break thru with supply to trapped armies.

nothing new here for me

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BrianG -> RE: many frame recap turn 1 (7/23/2020 9:50:34 PM)

and the victory.

This move is not good. better to run.

im just too stubborn.

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BrianG -> RE: many frame recap turn 1 (7/23/2020 9:52:51 PM)

feeling cocky and stupid at the same time, i try and force another tank regiment away from the Rumanian border.

my army hq's cannot escape

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BrianG -> RE: many frame recap turn 1 (7/23/2020 9:54:00 PM)

I find space to escape hq's trapped in the middle

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BrianG -> RE: many frame recap turn 1 (7/23/2020 9:55:11 PM)

supply allows me to cut off a number of German forward forces

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BrianG -> RE: many frame recap turn 1 (7/23/2020 9:58:15 PM)

turn 1 final positions south.

Allowing the middle troops to get cut off is a major turn 1 issue.

If they allow this to continue, the trapped units, (the frozen ones ), should get enhanced mp's for Russian turn 1.

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BrianG -> RE: many frame recap turn 1 (7/23/2020 9:59:13 PM)

further south final positions

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BrianG -> RE: many frame recap turn 1 (7/23/2020 10:00:24 PM)

final minsk. I squeeze supply route

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BrianG -> RE: many frame recap turn 1 (7/23/2020 10:02:25 PM)

and the north. Nothing to do here. My NW army hq is lost and will need to wait for game update to the beta so that I can destroy them and get them back onsides.

Tyronec will leave them to wither alone by the coast. Game fubar.

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BrianG -> turn 2 (7/23/2020 10:05:16 PM)

south open

and before a beta update, my SW hq decides to route here from there.

Really far and very unhelpful.

I am clearly looking for some pity points.

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BrianG -> RE: turn 2 (7/23/2020 10:06:16 PM)

into the Tyronec mind. Here is his turn 2 south open.

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BrianG -> RE: turn 2 (7/23/2020 10:07:34 PM)

my first view of the south: I thought pocket secured

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BrianG -> RE: turn 2 (7/23/2020 10:09:20 PM)

and then up north, pskov line easily breached in force.

and my lost NW hq with no destroy button

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BrianG -> RE: turn 2 (7/23/2020 10:10:58 PM)

Since hq's could not be relocated at this point, and not destroyed it became paramount to try and figure out some HQ escape routes.

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BrianG -> RE: turn 2 (7/23/2020 10:12:38 PM)

This attack opened up a possible supply connection to all these trapped troops.

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BrianG -> RE: turn 2 (7/23/2020 10:14:58 PM)

I have put Vatutin in a very bad spot.

His recon tries to find a way out. He does not like to fly although that which would be the most sensible escape method.


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BrianG -> RE: turn 2 (7/23/2020 10:17:36 PM)

Escape realized.

Phew!

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BrianG -> RE: turn 2 (7/23/2020 10:21:11 PM)

I shove aside cav in the middle hoping to pressure or even cut German supply from the north

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BrianG -> RE: turn 2 (7/23/2020 10:21:19 PM)

turn2 final south

I have done my best to cut off the forward Germans.

I wish i had been able to seal the lower gap

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BrianG -> RE: turn 2 (7/23/2020 10:22:17 PM)

Final west Kiev. Good zoc pressure but still supplied.

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