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BrianG -> RE: 32 final (1/6/2021 9:28:21 PM)

Stalino Final.

Running out of time here

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BrianG -> 33 open (1/7/2021 9:44:25 PM)

Very sad day.

Zhukov dismissed.

I did not need this atm. And such a shining star replacement.

Stalin clearly had a bad night with the bottle with his old buddy.

And for those still paying attention, please note the forecast for snow in Central zone

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Seminole -> RE: 33 open (1/7/2021 9:49:32 PM)

Did you put Zhukov in Stavka in the first place?



BrianG -> RE: 33 russian (1/7/2021 9:50:26 PM)

This was a second heavy attack on the tanks.

A hold

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BrianG -> 33 russian (1/7/2021 9:53:39 PM)

this attack was with well rested russian troops.

They had to wait for the Don to freeze and finally reached the new german lines.

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BrianG -> turn 33 OOB (1/7/2021 9:54:28 PM)

OOB

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BrianG -> turn 33 final (1/7/2021 9:57:16 PM)

south final.

what weather will show up.

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BrianG -> RE: turn 33 final (1/7/2021 10:05:18 PM)

Big V final



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BrianG -> RE: turn 33 final (1/7/2021 10:06:56 PM)

south Moscow final.



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BrianG -> RE: turn 33 final (1/7/2021 10:08:11 PM)

north moscow final

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BrianG -> RE: turn 33 final (1/7/2021 10:10:19 PM)

final Leningrad area



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BrianG -> 34 open (1/17/2021 2:06:42 AM)

so:

it seems i am still getting air support over Leningrad.

They must have missed the down fly order.

Its not close to the airbases.

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BrianG -> RE: 34 open (1/17/2021 2:08:11 AM)

Open around Moscow

He repulsed my strongest stack

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BrianG -> RE: 34 open (1/17/2021 2:10:33 AM)

And for the queasy:

Major February 42 German counter cut off attack slicing off a huge chunk of my troops furthest West near Stalino.

That's how one does it!

If February is bad, March will surely be worse.

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BrianG -> RE: 34 open (1/17/2021 2:12:58 AM)

Weather map.

I either forgot to look at forecast, or the forecast was wrong. Anyhow, I lost the aid of Blizzard effects due to snow and the Germans took advantage.

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BrianG -> RE: 34 russian moves (1/17/2021 2:20:24 AM)

Vatutin attack and nice win down south.

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BrianG -> RE: 34 russian moves (1/17/2021 2:22:19 AM)

and a bad loss by Petrov against Rumanian Mountain

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BrianG -> RE: 34 russian moves (1/17/2021 2:24:41 AM)

It was unclear to me why this HQ got bounced over here.

He could not have been near that German breakthrough.

Any ideas

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BrianG -> RE: 34 russian moves (1/17/2021 2:25:32 AM)

View of 23rd Army..

Not a bad won loss record considering many of his troops melted away.

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BrianG -> RE: 34 russian moves (1/17/2021 2:27:02 AM)

[:@]

Close loss to break pocket.

[:@]

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BrianG -> RE: 34 final (1/17/2021 2:29:22 AM)

Final south

Note the split division by Tyronec holding the rear of the pockets.

He puts his main strength into the cutting off units

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BrianG -> RE: 34 final (1/17/2021 2:30:28 AM)

moscow final

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BrianG -> Lesson number . . . . (1/17/2021 2:39:42 AM)

When you have a chunk of your Russian troops cut off in the first week of February 1942, it's best to run away!




chaos45 -> RE: Lesson number . . . . (1/17/2021 1:26:50 PM)

IDK the odds of some of your attacks were pretty low before dice were even rolled, so could be predictable soviet defeats.

As well the Soviet bouncing HQs....this has been an issue in other games times past as well....think it was Michael vs Pelton were like all the soviet HQs mysteriously bounced to the rear, and I had a similar situation in my game vs Pelton, but think this is first it has popped up since then which was a long time ago.



BrianG -> Lesson number . . . . (1/17/2021 9:14:28 PM)

South Result counterattack:

The try to open this south pocket will end up with more good units thrown away trying to save bad units.

This game turned on this cutoff and relief attempt.

The better Russian play seeing this situation would be to realized the Germans are too strong and start retreated East immediately!

This is hindsight but should be a trigger result.

If i had started my March retreat 1 month early (first turn of Feb), this game would have been much different. And i had room to give down south.



BrianG -> RE: Lesson number . . . . (1/17/2021 9:14:55 PM)

as for low attack odds, i was in need of a victory at any price.



BrianG -> turn 35 (1/17/2021 9:16:58 PM)

NEW SOUTH POCKET!

bad thrown after good.

Here is the relief attack lineup

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BrianG -> RE: turn 35 (1/17/2021 9:17:58 PM)

and a victory. For once!

BUT

i was still better off retreating!

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BrianG -> turn 35 final (1/17/2021 9:19:23 PM)

fin south final

i split and 3 stack a corp

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BrianG -> RE: turn 35 final (1/17/2021 9:20:20 PM)

Moscow final

and secondary defense lines

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