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BrianG -> 12 Moscow (8/8/2020 1:43:11 PM)

This was the rare big defensive stand near Moscow.

So rare i had to show.

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BrianG -> RE: 12 crimea (8/8/2020 1:44:29 PM)

My fort and attach su's put up a good battle.

so many engineer though for Germans.

Over kill.

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BrianG -> RE: 12 crimea (8/8/2020 1:46:37 PM)

Moscow issue

so here i am trying to defend Moscow and what do i find unmovable on a key hex.

MOSCOW MD hq. it becomes movable turn 12 which by then when its too late!

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BrianG -> RE: 12 leningrad (8/8/2020 1:47:42 PM)

SO

Port connection is open, yet i cannot disband the fort?

good, bad, bug, indifferent?

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BrianG -> RE: 12 leningrad (8/8/2020 1:49:53 PM)

Thanks to Tyronec having fun attacking that Oranienbaum Fort hex, my 2 AA units turn Guards?

Sweet i will send them to Stalin


I will of course lose one of them to surrender elsewhere later in the war

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BrianG -> RE: 12 leningrad (8/8/2020 1:52:43 PM)

Near Leningrad, i rescue 1 hex. Only for delay of death.

then i'm thinking:

Its turn 11 and his tanks are still up near Leningrad.

I have hope.

and look for rain and mud.

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BrianG -> 12 Moscow (8/8/2020 1:54:19 PM)

week 12 spear tip counter attack lineup.

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BrianG -> RE: 12 Moscow (8/8/2020 1:55:50 PM)

ah

it was attack to cut off the tip.

And the tip will be isolated for 1 turn.



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BrianG -> RE: 12 Moscow (8/8/2020 1:57:47 PM)

Still i could not forgo the chance to rout the tip and really save a turn before Moscow's gate. 5 sided attack.

Was this difficult attack a game changing loss?

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BrianG -> RE: 12 Moscow (8/8/2020 2:00:18 PM)

final Moscow

I know he is not using all his tanks each turn. He will have at least one or 2 ready at very good mp for the next turn thus a major worry each turn.

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BrianG -> RE: 12 Moscow (8/8/2020 2:01:41 PM)

final south

Again i really cannot afford to lose troops.

If i had more i might be inclined to hold near here but....

By my retreating he did not have to use his tanks for another turn. Maybe a bad move on my part.

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BrianG -> RE: 12 (8/8/2020 2:04:56 PM)

Final Leningrad.

Again:

I retreat. But by doing so i will learn it allowed tyronec to start redeploying his tanks towards Moscow.

And he will do so very efficiently and effectively.

But i had to try and save these units near Leningrad.

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BrianG -> 13 (8/9/2020 2:17:07 PM)

no mud no luck

and another very close loss at the gates of Moscow

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BrianG -> RE: 13 (8/9/2020 2:18:14 PM)

final Moscow.

Another 3 divisions lost.

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BrianG -> RE: 13 (8/9/2020 2:19:07 PM)

vv area

his tanks have started redeploying near VV. I have to retreat.

his rr line is also close to VV

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BrianG -> RE: 13 (8/9/2020 2:21:21 PM)

north final

His tanks have mostly left area leaving infantry to do the mop up. His barely has a screen on Leningrad .

Still what a mess. Leningrad will be easily cut.

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BrianG -> RE: 13 (8/9/2020 2:23:18 PM)

down south final

even in an orderly retreat for me, i will lose 7 more divisions.

i also swap in a fresh unit to Sevastopol

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Shupov -> RE: 13 (8/9/2020 9:50:43 PM)

A tactical comment on your five-sided attack on 12th Pz and 60th Mot. At least one of the Soviet stacks had previously attacked that turn, increasing fatigue. Three stacks were attacking across a river. Also the five stacks are from three different Fronts, causing 30% CV reduction.

I don't argue against an aggressive defense, and you have done well in other places, but this attack was unlikely to succeed. I would expect Tyronec would take advantage of the fatigued enemy units in his next turn.



BrianG -> RE: 13 (8/10/2020 12:11:03 AM)

quote:

A tactical comment on your five-sided attack on 12th Pz and 60th Mot. At least one of the Soviet stacks had previously attacked that turn, increasing fatigue. Three stacks were attacking across a river. Also the five stacks are from three different Fronts, causing 30% CV reduction.

I don't argue against an aggressive defense, and you have done well in other places, but this attack was unlikely to succeed. I would expect Tyronec would take advantage of the fatigued enemy units in his next turn.


all attacks made with no confidence in victory.

just following orders.



BrianG -> Turn 14 The Unraveling (8/10/2020 12:12:37 AM)

Very hard to contemplate Moscow open.

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BrianG -> Turn 14 The Unraveling (8/10/2020 12:13:31 AM)

very hard to contemplate Leningrad open

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BrianG -> RE: Turn 14 The Unraveling (8/10/2020 12:17:14 AM)

very hard to contemplate Rostov open. Damn German tanks.

I shout out a Russian curse.


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Shupov -> RE: Turn 14 The Unraveling (8/10/2020 12:31:45 AM)

As expected, Tyronec crossed the Moskva in two places against the exhausted troops and extended two additional hexes beyond.



Shupov -> RE: Turn 14 The Unraveling (8/13/2020 8:23:35 AM)

The Eng/Art values in this game seem very high. In turn 13 the Soviets have 24/13 resulting in attacking CV increasing from 174 to 679.

How are these high values achieved? Did the Soviets create many Sapper Regiments?



BrianG -> RE: Turn 14 The Unraveling (8/13/2020 12:15:07 PM)

quote:

Did the Soviets create many Sapper Regiments?


Those are no longer able to be built since a few beta's ago..

And i lost this battle


and the fort was only .14 before the attack.

And good general.

cv shifts happen!



BrianG -> Turn 14 The Unraveling (8/13/2020 8:49:04 PM)

the highlights

attack 1

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BrianG -> RE: Turn 14 The Unraveling (8/13/2020 8:50:00 PM)

attack 2

I may have then removed some industry from Rostov. cant recall

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BrianG -> RE: Turn 14 The Unraveling (8/13/2020 8:51:36 PM)

up north i force supply east of the river to have to cross the river.

Minor nuisance

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BrianG -> RE: Turn 14 The Unraveling (8/13/2020 8:53:56 PM)

another tough loss west of Moscow.

Good russian cv shift but better german general

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BrianG -> RE: Turn 14 The Unraveling (8/13/2020 8:55:55 PM)

I then find a seam in the south flank near Moscow and send in Cav deep.

I rout hq and airbase. woo hoo!!

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