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BrianG -> t 16 final (8/17/2020 9:17:33 PM)
South final one more turn till mud . I figure i can hold Rostov,. Most worried about big breakout of bridgehead. [image]local://upfiles/41373/0532B6626ED94F2ABBDA3158F0168682.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: t 16 final (8/17/2020 9:18:01 PM)
Kursk area final [image]local://upfiles/41373/0DB3E49CE0B14793B8FD82F0CB807A96.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: t 16 final (8/17/2020 9:19:16 PM)
South Moscow final This is where i made another huge mistake. i was thinking tyronec would settle for what he has achieved. ah WRONG [image]local://upfiles/41373/46D4D9E163944882A097C7B62E2AB2D2.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: t 16 final (8/17/2020 9:19:52 PM)
North moscow final. I cut off 3 mech + armor divisions. [image]local://upfiles/41373/7B79F208D0474C7EB75827E734104DE1.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: t 16 final (8/17/2020 9:22:07 PM)
far north trying to save troops and at SAME TIME Hold the FORWARD Position [image]local://upfiles/41373/CF07C7A9AF694961898CC50673FBD7BB.jpg[/image]

tyronec -> RE: t 16 final (8/18/2020 5:49:37 AM)
quote: South final one more turn till mud . I figure i can hold Rostov,. Most worried about big breakout of bridgehead. Crossing the river was a mistake on my part. The forces I had available were simply not strong enough to attempt to pocket Rostov.

BrianG -> t17 another nail in the (8/18/2020 10:13:28 PM)
I hold the adjacent hex below the Don. I think this was 2 attacks. Im feeling good ive held Rostov thru the mud.[:)] I did not take photo of the Rostov attack [image]local://upfiles/41373/E72D1D2B26804A628FA9EB541E0B022B.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> t17 another nail in the (8/18/2020 10:14:38 PM)
And then i look to Moscow. omg [:o] [image]local://upfiles/41373/CF6B235B8AD84C9BA28E9AAFD80AB7AD.jpg[/image]

Shupov -> RE: t17 another nail in the (8/20/2020 12:13:45 AM)
The Tula pocket was very impressive. Did all German armor come from the north? They crossed a major river and penetrated two-deep defenses seemingly with ease.

tyronec -> RE: t17 another nail in the (8/20/2020 8:28:18 AM)
I was intending to do a strong drive southwards this turn and had done HQB in preparation, as far as I can remember it was a combination left hook/right hook to seal the pocket.

Grognard1812 -> RE: t17 another nail in the (8/20/2020 10:49:45 AM)
Looking back to turn 15 and 16 you could see in hindsight the potential for a large Tula pocket. When multiple German units were situated east of Moscow on turn 16, I think the Soviet player should have moved all his units around Tula further east to straighten out his defensive line - leaving a large Kursk like bulge in 1941 or 1942 in this game I think usually only results in large pockets being formed by an experienced German player.

eskuche -> RE: t17 another nail in the (8/20/2020 4:42:03 PM)
I think another major point is stacking three units along a front that is already sketchy. IMHO hard walls in hard terrain with a minimal rear checkerboard, whereas active fronts with infantry and panzer need a minimum three deep line only AFTER which you can consider beefing up the front row. No point in concentrating forces that can be bypassed, or worse, encircled.

BrianG -> RE: t17 another nail in the (8/20/2020 9:43:23 PM)
quote: I was intending to do a strong drive southwards this turn and had done HQB in preparation, as far as I can remember it was a combination left hook/right hook to seal the pocket. I felt at risk in any direction. If Tula retreated, he may just have gone East. or southeast or north west. just difficult . Losing the units north of Moscow was the doom. From where i began turn 14 to this. very hard end of summer.

BrianG -> : t17 (8/20/2020 9:46:28 PM)
Rostov counter. They are back north of the DON. Not sure where Model went to. the quote was ' it was a miracle' [image]local://upfiles/41373/4EE471373AAE4702A51EA297C1EFC62A.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: : t17 (8/20/2020 9:48:34 PM)
Late summer Moscow victory. [image]local://upfiles/41373/4D62816310CB483D85D1573E92A3A17A.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> t17 final (8/20/2020 9:49:41 PM)
rostov final next mud or it better be [image]local://upfiles/41373/50A5B186CFF14A1AB61D44374A55F5B7.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: t17 final (8/20/2020 9:51:21 PM)
south Moscow final. I try to break thru but not chance. He will have very long mp's to these tanks during the mud season. [image]local://upfiles/41373/94DFD3E9407A41CC82326F731BB46652.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: t17 final (8/20/2020 9:52:28 PM)
east Moscow. I saved my 2 cities here but just horrible. [image]local://upfiles/41373/0C2A77686B2F4B65847C23D0B0C4EE85.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: t17 final (8/20/2020 9:53:19 PM)
North final Im squeezed in between the german and fins [image]local://upfiles/41373/04AD76102E074EC98A193C5C03A382F4.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: t17 final (8/20/2020 9:54:07 PM)
air kia end of summer [image]local://upfiles/41373/BF32021F02A34637AF5FADEC2411CE23.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: t17 final (8/20/2020 9:54:34 PM)
ground kia end of summer [image]local://upfiles/41373/95746A7F49A6424082DD1D9466C8BD45.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: t17 final (8/20/2020 9:55:48 PM)
OOB end of summer I have many troops trapped and starving. All over the map [image]local://upfiles/41373/6F38B52B6B3343298AD60C3906454C60.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> turn 18l (8/21/2020 9:23:38 PM)
The weather chart is thrown for a loop Snow turn 18 in the middle, and the north forecast is Snow turn 19. [image]local://upfiles/41373/894E02A6A3D5431EB2A9C193F0401D7C.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: turn 18l (8/21/2020 9:26:10 PM)
Here was where i found bad surrender issue (IMO) This unit was supplied. And frankly not very far from supply. Rout rule needs tweak. and oil change. [image]local://upfiles/41373/12E6A821B3CD45398D8220B0783AF7FC.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: turn 18 (8/21/2020 9:32:31 PM)
OK so here is the very large mp's for German tanks in Mud. Thus the question raised is will these tanks have lots of fuel at the end of mud If they dont move the whole time. B/c they should be low while stuck in the mud. [image]local://upfiles/41373/73978E6840E34E09BF0FFED2A6405647.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: turn 18 (8/21/2020 9:34:19 PM)
A very good Russian raid on German short range recon [image]local://upfiles/41373/998599477D4E4A5FB341323E4F3B9455.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: turn 18 (8/21/2020 9:35:32 PM)
Russian mud attack on low supple German forward positions Is this a good loss or a bad loss? [image]local://upfiles/41373/79208B944C4448A7A46029D69C19BC2E.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: turn 18 (8/21/2020 9:51:13 PM)
The pocket. Really way too many troops in the pocket. final [image]local://upfiles/41373/F3554E90AF974505BE191899D50A3D4A.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: turn 18 (8/21/2020 9:52:35 PM)
lower south I think the front is wide open but i cant do anything about it [image]local://upfiles/41373/D8ED653E765645A099689C481494788F.jpg[/image]

BrianG -> RE: turn 18 (8/21/2020 9:53:17 PM)
moscow final [image]local://upfiles/41373/61CE33D5ACFE477A828F864D7B0D0F20.jpg[/image]

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