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RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 5:47:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: apbarog


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

It might be a short trip...the journey of the Dewey!

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The fate of the Pacific rests with the Dewey!


You mean if the Dewey sinks, then the Pacific will also sink?[X(][;)]




BBfanboy -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 6:05:48 PM)

I am not sure why you want to move the marine Rgt. by ship when the rail lines could get it there as fast and safer?




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 6:16:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

I am not sure why you want to move the marine Rgt. by ship when the rail lines could get it there as fast and safer?


No, it just arrived and is unloading.[;)]




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 6:17:38 PM)

Doing a lot of shakedown cruises, with a ton of ships.

The merchant shipping gets to 15 fairly quickly, but night time training of better ships is longer as they have a higher training cap.



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 6:24:42 PM)

More shakedowns...an unorthodox pairing.

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 7:16:39 PM)

Pilot skills...

Just moved the Buffalo skipper into Tracom, my first Tracom move of the game.

Haven't thought thru any pilot training programs, trying to flesh out my front line squadrons with 60 skill pilots. That is a lot of 80 exp pilots for me...

My initial thought is to dump an elite pilot into some training groups to boost overall training speed.

PDU off, so they might go to Tracom and then to good frames.

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RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 7:42:40 PM)

You can get many more pilots into the training units (or any air unit) than is normal. Just end up selecting more than you need when you do so manually. That is a good way to get those who need training out of the reserve pool and get them trained. Also, when a pilot gets fatigued, you can rest them by putting them into Group Reserve - which is also a good way to force certain pilots to fly to build up their experience.




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 7:47:10 PM)

Off map question:

If I send this cargo convoy to East Coast, from Cape Town, will they refuel in the nether regions? After one day, I could change them to refuel, but I am not sure that that is important in off map travel.



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 7:51:22 PM)

Heading back for repairs.

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 7:57:51 PM)

About 25 squadrons of Americans heading for Bombay. Most will eventually wind up in Ledo to supply China.

Even the transports are planes. Marine Raiders are the only troops here now, but that will change in the next 3-4 days when the Base Force exodus occurs from Cape Town.



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RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 9:05:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Off map question:

If I send this cargo convoy to East Coast, from Cape Town, will they refuel in the nether regions? After one day, I could change them to refuel, but I am not sure that that is important in off map travel.



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They will use no apparent fuel off the map nor should they receive damage. The off map refueling presumes that they get fuel from off map bases.




RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 9:07:42 PM)

The Air Transport TFs should also carry supply, you will need it and the space is available.




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/20/2021 10:23:06 PM)

I don't like putting supply on ships carrying planes, I think they can tank torpedoes better without them.





Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 1:15:59 AM)

Jan 26, 1942

New Orleans is added to the bombardment group, and American Heavy Cruisers really shine on the bombardments.



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 1:21:22 AM)

Some carriers spotted the hard way.



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 1:24:01 AM)

Wearing down the divisions is important in slowing down the IJA assault.



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 1:25:47 AM)

Really bad play here by yours truly letting him catch me.



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 1:29:21 AM)

Dangerous game here, will the 193rd Tanks and Australian Tanks and Division show up in time in reserve no pursuit mode and will they convert over to combat?

Our attempt at a naval bombardment didn't work...Captain thought better of it.



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 1:31:22 AM)

Payback for Burma!



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BBfanboy -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 1:50:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Off map question:

If I send this cargo convoy to East Coast, from Cape Town, will they refuel in the nether regions? After one day, I could change them to refuel, but I am not sure that that is important in off map travel.



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They will not use any further fuel between off-map ports. You can refuel them in the USA.

EDIT: RJ answered this before I got there, but an addition to his comment about off map not accumulating damage. That is true for undamaged ships but ships with float damage can still have runaway flooding.




BBfanboy -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 1:53:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I don't like putting supply on ships carrying planes, I think they can tank torpedoes better without them.



Load them with balsa wood ...[;)]




mind_messing -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 2:01:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Pilot skills...

Just moved the Buffalo skipper into Tracom, my first Tracom move of the game.

Haven't thought thru any pilot training programs, trying to flesh out my front line squadrons with 60 skill pilots. That is a lot of 80 exp pilots for me...

My initial thought is to dump an elite pilot into some training groups to boost overall training speed.

PDU off, so they might go to Tracom and then to good frames.



I'm in the same boat as you, early war Allies and PDU off.

I think that as the Allies have so many nationalities, TRACOM isn't worth it. There's oodles of USA and USN pilots, before we even consider the USMC I don't see the value in going heavy for TRACOM as you would with Japan.

My current thinking, in Jan '42 is to train frantically for three more months and make the best I can with what I have in the meantime. Get as many 70 Air/Def (will train escort + LowNav) pilots as possible out as quickly as possible, will worry about building EXP once they're on the front.

I see a very measured (read - passive) air war for me. Going to try and lean on FLAK as much as possible on the frontlines to avoid needing CAP. Don't plan on fighting sweeps unless I can avoid it - starve the IJ fighter corps of easy EXP.

If I do see a fight I like the look of, taking a leaf out of Doug Bader's book and aiming for 5+ squadrons for any operations. Don't see many sweeps in store for me, not at least until the good stuff starts to appear.

Bombers are going to be train, train, train till mid '42 at least. LowNav/GrdB across the board, bar a handful of squadrons that will specialise in ASW. Will look for nuisance night raids or milk runs on the fringes to build EXP.

You can't outbuild Japan, so I think you need to leverage the quality aspect of the Allies to win in the air. I don't see anything in '42 that's got serious offensive chops in the air to matter (bar the P38), so I think it's largely a year of training to come back into the air war in '43 with a solid fighter force for daylight sweeps and a well-drilled bomber force to hammer airbases at night.




RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 2:05:57 AM)

I like to use the long range Hudsons for Nav Search and ASW since they also carry radar.




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 2:10:50 AM)

More on planes, the Feb 42 crop of rookies:

I think I used P39 in an antishipping role in a Nasty Nasty game and was disappointed in them...so I think ground strafe, and rear area defense outside of Zero range if I can.

Like your thinking MM, basically it is what I am trying in this game, although I am pulling 60 skill pilots now...especially to guard against 15 hex IJNAF attacks. One big difference is that I am massing bombers to deliver supplies to China...







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mind_messing -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 2:12:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I like to use the long range Hudsons for Nav Search and ASW since they also carry radar.



I'm considering bulking the Hudsons out with Blenheims too - no radar, but I don't consider them cut out for combat duty so I suspect most will be training squadrons for the duration.




RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 2:20:18 AM)

Right now, Lowpe could use Blenheims in Western Australia where there appears to be no effective Japanese fighter coverage.

I like to use the P-39 in a higher CAP role. If they can get the dive and hit a Zero with the cannon . . . [X(]
But then again, it is against the computer.




BBfanboy -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 2:26:28 AM)

The P-400 does away with the heavy slow firing 37mm cannon for two 20mm cannons. It has a slightly higher maneuver rating and should get more hits in air-to-air combat from the greater rate of fire of the 20mm. I think they are best for mid-range altitudes - 10-20K. They should also be good for MTB busting.




RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 2:43:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

The P-400 does away with the heavy slow firing 37mm cannon for two 20mm cannons. It has a slightly higher maneuver rating and should get more hits in air-to-air combat from the greater rate of fire of the 20mm. I think they are best for mid-range altitudes - 10-20K. They should also be good for MTB busting.


One 20mm cannon, not two . . . [;)]




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 3:32:50 AM)

Hudson and Blenheims…I view them as almost free VP for Japan. Very careful how I use them. I think 4 Squadrons are delivering supplies to China right now.

I have been using in a night bombing role with some success, and in Western Oz a squadron of Hudsons have been attacking along with the Banshees...sometimes Geraldton and sometimes tanks. Not great against the tanks...of course I could use more. Results are also light, so I don't often post about them. They have destroyed fighters at night on IJ runways though and most importantly haven't been destroyed. Pilot quality in them is universally poor at the moment.

Here is an attack on the east coast:

Morning Air attack on 8th Tank Regiment, at 89,154 , near Charleville

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 7

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Hudson I bombing from 5000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb





BBfanboy -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (1/21/2021 7:32:05 AM)

Those 250# bombs don't seem to work well against tanks - you would think they could knock off a truck or two but it is rare to get any vehicle with them. The 500# and 1000# bombs do much better. Use Hudsons and Blenheims for Nav Search and ASW for now, until you get lots of escorts for them.




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