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bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/5/2021 12:13:07 AM)

42-5-24:

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bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/6/2021 4:40:08 AM)

42-5-29:


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John 3rd -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/11/2021 4:32:51 AM)

June 5, 1942

The game certainly APPEARS to be afoot in the North Pacific and Alaska as a powerful Japanese CTF appears and launches multiple small strikes and sweeps near and over the mainland US of A.

Fighter Sweeps occur over Bremerton and Seattle as three strikes attack targets of opportunity in the area.


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bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/11/2021 12:49:13 PM)

42-6-5: previous turn I knew something was out there.

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bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/11/2021 12:55:25 PM)

In other news:

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bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/11/2021 12:56:40 PM)

Seems the IJA are hitting Brick walls:

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bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/12/2021 3:59:04 AM)

42-6-6: Going where he does not belong:

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John 3rd -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/12/2021 1:56:36 PM)

June 7, 1942

Japan goes where it WANTS!


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Will confirm that I did find a couple of mines at Victoria. RUDE!




John 3rd -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/12/2021 2:00:10 PM)

Sent the note to my Noble Opponent this morning that he is OFFICIALLY becoming annoying with troop movements, aircraft deployment, and just about any other facet one can imagine in BURMA.

I, ever so politely, ask my opponent to abandon his foolish attempts at defense in Myitkyina, Warazup, Chittagong, and Lashio. Please move away or FACE THE WHIRLWIND!

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John 3rd -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/13/2021 4:10:24 AM)

B-17s flying at 1,000Ft on Naval Attack??!!

[:@]




bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/13/2021 11:47:53 PM)

Glad you noticed my effort to skip bomb into your hanger decks.
In this no rules game, I am concerned about the early IJN capabilities.
As I stated upthread, IJN does not belong near the west coast.
Current Low Naval average is about 45, but will get better quicker with live target practice. So thanks John.


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RangerJoe -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 12:02:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: John 3rd

June 7, 1942

Japan goes where it WANTS!


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Will confirm that I did find a couple of mines at Victoria. RUDE!


But the important part is:

Does it get to return in the same condition that it went in?[&:]




bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 3:52:14 AM)

Probably NOT!!! But could be an invasion force heated to Bella Bella using the KB to distract my air. That would turn into great training target for my LBA.

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bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 3:53:32 AM)

In other exciting news!!! Seems the hit rate is 9 out of 27 with no CAP(25%).

With marginal CAP we get no hits. But that will change as time goes by.

Most american training BMR sqn are not releasing any pilots until the bombing value is in the 50's with low Nav and Search both in the 40's. As I get more pilots I will raise the standard.

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BBfanboy -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 3:54:06 AM)

Those bombers training on Low Naval attack do not need a range 6 setting ...




bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 3:54:41 AM)

The B17s even shoot down a Jake!!!

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bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 4:02:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Those bombers training on Low Naval attack do not need a range 6 setting ...

IDk, IIRC it could be a 0 range. Several years ago I discovered a training setting that increases 3 skill columns, but i dont remember it now.




RangerJoe -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 4:23:11 AM)

Range 0 to keep fatigue down, height at 1k feet except for regular naval and ground bombing.




BBfanboy -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 4:26:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bigred

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Those bombers training on Low Naval attack do not need a range 6 setting ...

IDk, IIRC it could be a 0 range. Several years ago I discovered a training setting that increases 3 skill columns, but i dont remember it now.

LowN or LowG can increase that skill plus Strafe and Defensive. That is only apparent when those skills are all quite low. The gains get pretty spotty later.




bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 1:00:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: bigred

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Those bombers training on Low Naval attack do not need a range 6 setting ...

IDk, IIRC it could be a 0 range. Several years ago I discovered a training setting that increases 3 skill columns, but i dont remember it now.

LowN or LowG can increase that skill plus Strafe and Defensive. That is only apparent when those skills are all quite low. The gains get pretty spotty later.

What is the use for low ground? bombing under 2000 feet. I guess the b17 gets to use the 10x.5cal guns on ground troops. I guess I need a refresher on airplane altitude commands. Does anyone have a link?




John 3rd -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 2:04:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bigred

In other exciting news!!! Seems the hit rate is 9 out of 27 with no CAP(25%).

With marginal CAP we get no hits. But that will change as time goes by.

Most american training BMR sqn are not releasing any pilots until the bombing value is in the 50's with low Nav and Search both in the 40's. As I get more pilots I will raise the standard.

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Pretty good score considering that there were only four DDs in that TF. Got two of them though.

Hit Nisshin this turn.

How is BB Colorado (46 Bombs of which 15 were 800Kg) and 19 others ships at Prince Rupert??

Will Post picture.




John 3rd -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 2:09:21 PM)

My art cut out when I grabbed this screenshot.

Strike: 117 Zero, 135 Val, and 182 Kate vs 36 Fighters.

Ships hit: BB Colorado, 3 DD, 3 DM, AVD, APD, 3 AP, AS, 2 KV, AM, 2 ACM, AKL

Losses: 5 Zero, 4 Val, and 5 Kate

Kodiak now needs my attention. We bid a fond farewell to the West Coast, however, we shall be back.


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John 3rd -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 2:21:30 PM)

It is mid-June 1942. Where does Japan sit at this point?

We have a concentrated pair of Japanese Carrier TFs off the West Coast. The carriers are:

The BIG SIX: CarDiv 1--Akagi and Amagi (81), CarDiv2--Hiryu and Soryu (69), CarDiv5--Shokaku and Zuikaku (72)
6 CVL: Ryukaku and Karasu (33 Planes each and built after London Conference), Ryujo (39), Shoho (33), Zuiho (33), Nisshin 33--built as CVL instead of CS)
2 CAV: Kushiro and Tokachi (30 Planes)

The CVL's have their complements shifted to an average of 21 Zero, 9 Kate, and 3 Recon-Variant Kate)


The Allies have lost a CV, CVL, and CLV at this point. They started with a total of 2 CAV, 4 CLV, and a CVL extra. Wasp comes in as a Yorktown-Class and Ranger arrives in this scenario as well.





bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 2:37:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: John 3rd

My art cut out when I grabbed this screenshot.

Strike: 117 Zero, 135 Val, and 182 Kate vs 36 Fighters.

Ships hit: BB Colorado, 3 DD, 3 DM, AVD, APD, 3 AP, AS, 2 KV, AM, 2 ACM, AKL

Losses: 5 Zero, 4 Val, and 5 Kate

Kodiak now needs my attention. We bid a fond farewell to the West Coast, however, we shall be back.


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No worries. BB Colorado is a in port bomb spunge.




John 3rd -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 2:52:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

B-17s flying at 1,000Ft on Naval Attack??!!

[:@]


Horse Poo-Doo.

OK. WE want to play tactics and counter-tactics? Drop down at least 1-2 Daitai of Fighters to 5,000 Ft to see if that does anything. Doubtful since the machines are invincible...




John 3rd -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 2:52:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bigred

quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

My art cut out when I grabbed this screenshot.

Strike: 117 Zero, 135 Val, and 182 Kate vs 36 Fighters.

Ships hit: BB Colorado, 3 DD, 3 DM, AVD, APD, 3 AP, AS, 2 KV, AM, 2 ACM, AKL

Losses: 5 Zero, 4 Val, and 5 Kate

Kodiak now needs my attention. We bid a fond farewell to the West Coast, however, we shall be back.


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No worries. BB Colorado is a in port bomb spunge.


Well...it certainly was spongy in that assault!




RangerJoe -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 2:59:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bigred

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: bigred

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Those bombers training on Low Naval attack do not need a range 6 setting ...

IDk, IIRC it could be a 0 range. Several years ago I discovered a training setting that increases 3 skill columns, but i dont remember it now.

LowN or LowG can increase that skill plus Strafe and Defensive. That is only apparent when those skills are all quite low. The gains get pretty spotty later.

What is the use for low ground? bombing under 2000 feet. I guess the b17 gets to use the 10x.5cal guns on ground troops. I guess I need a refresher on airplane altitude commands. Does anyone have a link?


Low Ground, Low Naval, and Strafing for your attack bombers, fighter bombers, and any other aircraft that will attack at low level. At 100 feet, they should Strafe and Low bomb (either Land or Naval.)




bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 10:13:08 PM)

1942-6-7:
Alot of action (caused by John):

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bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 10:14:44 PM)

John likes low hanging fruit:

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bigred -> RE: Rising Sun, Falling Skies: BTSL Bigred vs John 3rd (1/14/2021 11:03:06 PM)

Hey John, these combat reports are always under reported. You have any comments? Viewers would love to know!!!


quote:

TF 88 encounters mine field at 54,54

Japanese Ships
PB Eifuku Maru, Mine hits 1
xAK Teisen Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Hokumai Maru, Mine hits 1
xAK Ohio Maru, Mine hits 1
xAK London Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Syohei Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire
xAK Hino Maru #3, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

2 mines cleared




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