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Andy Mac -> RE: Disaster in the North (3/13/2021 1:59:07 PM)
Merchant Marine all sunk and navy mostly as well apart from minelaying subs been pretty brutal In other News operation Hydra kicked off in India and these were just preliminery moves to secure forward rail heads at Indor Surat and Bopal But I got my arse kicked in the air - sweeps by P40K's, Hurricanes and Wildcats lost over 200 fighters in 4 days fighting for maybe 40 or 50 Tojos so not a good exhange rate for my 70/70 pilots I also had heavies go in before the sweeps (grrrrr) so lost about 30 4E bombers as well - overall the air war is not going well only my 2 Groups of RAF Night bombers (4 Sqns of Blenheims in one and 2 of Wellingtons and Liberator II's in the other are achieving anything and they are annoying not decisive I am going to revert to wating until I need to get the bombers through ie when my ground units are ready for the assault Andy

Andy Mac -> RE: Disaster in the North (3/13/2021 2:00:22 PM)
I have P38's Corsairs and Spitfires either en route or waiting for the time to strike so I have better than I have shown so far

RangerJoe -> RE: Disaster in the North (3/13/2021 5:54:53 PM)
Do you consider removing small parts of Soviet units along the Pacific coast possible so they can rebuild in Conus and then be used elsewhere? That could allow the massive Soviet infantry to help you retake the Aleutians on your way to Siberia. If you could, subs could drop supplies to the Soviets there as well. You might want to move your fastest AP types to Mombasa to pick up units there and then make a mad dash for Aden. At full speed when they come onto the map, they will not be seen for long. Even APDs could help move small detachments as well. The P-38s can handle the Tojo but just make sure that they have your best pilots. But the high SR means that they have to stand down frequently so overstuff the fighter units with planes and pilots. Night bombing then sweeping. Maybe even go for leaking CAP if it is there.

29000Kevin -> RE: Disaster in the North (3/14/2021 1:49:58 AM)
Soviet communist taking over the Aleutian islands? You have better explain to Harry S. Truman on why thats a good idea. Not going to lie though Uncle Joe would love a few islands that effectively allows the Soviet Union to strike the heart of the West Coast of America.

RangerJoe -> RE: Disaster in the North (3/14/2021 2:28:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 29000Kevin Soviet communist taking over the Aleutian islands? You have better explain to Harry S. Truman on why thats a good idea. Not going to lie though Uncle Joe would love a few islands that effectively allows the Soviet Union to strike the heart of the West Coast of America. While the original Soviet national bases can't be voluntarily changed by the Allied player, captured bases can. This would allow the Allies to push into Siberia from the East and then other Allied forces move East from India. Or use them other places when the base is captured but the Allied units need some rest, then the Soviets can take over. FDR would probably think that it would be a great idea.

Andy Mac -> Operation Hydra kicks off (3/15/2021 3:08:45 PM)
OK Operation Hydra is 4 days in the last of my forces just arrived at Karachi but we are off the positon and objectives are below [image]local://upfiles/11987/E3749052661A4F15AFF94678561286B0.jpg[/image]

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/15/2021 3:30:44 PM)
His forces at Cawnpore will be cut off in 2 days he either evacs now or they will be isolated Indore will take at least 4 or 5 days to isolate so he has more time to pull back from Indore I actually hope he decides to stand and fight would make life easier if I write off a few Divisions before the hard fighting to come. My biggest challenge remains the airpower he has so many elite pilots that my 70/70 pilots are getting eaten alive - I need to find a way to kill his pilots I have 2 Spitfire Sqns, 4 Lightning Groups and 2 Corsair Sqns that can go toe to toe even if my pilots arent quite as good as his the rest of my fighters are simply there to get my bombers through !!!

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/15/2021 11:59:33 PM)
I have committed 2 Armies, 7 Corps made up of 20 Infantry Divs, 6 Inf Bdes, 7 Armoured or Motorised Bdes, 11 Independent Tank Regts, 3 Chindit/para Bdes and 1 Para Bn to this offensive With 2 Divs and about 10 Bns dedicated to LOC duties and reinforcements of a further 3 Divs en route. My edge in terms of combat power is thin and I have to assume with the defacto closure of the Northern Soviet sector he will be transferring units to India or Burma and this is a massive throw of the dice I have committed pretty much my entire 43 offensive power to this attack. The force I have committed cannot afford the time to move to other theatres - no more force will be committed its win or die time in India I have a vast weigth of airpower but I don't have air superiority I need to grind him down a bit to achieve that I am picking up signs he is pulling out of Cawnpore the garrison seems to be falling - I suspect he knows he cannot hold it. No movement at Indore yet but my Chindits landing just west of Nagpur and closing one of the main rail trunk routes has to have him worried. I thought this was interesting what looks like a Japanese Army (2nd) with 4 Divs including a Tank Div at Gorakhpur The USMC Paras have closed the rail line and until he moves them out he cannot use the rail line Tomorrow a mechanised Cav Regt will close the rail line south which will leave that entire force in open ground in range of my AF....... Ground combat at Gorakhpur (54,26) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 3456 troops, 184 guns, 129 vehicles, Assault Value = 1708 Defending force 415 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16 Japanese adjusted assault: 43 Allied adjusted defense: 5 Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 126 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 34 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 3rd Tank Division 58th Division Imperial Guards Division 21st Division 19th Naval Guard Unit 1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 7th JAAF Base Force 18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 6th Air Division 8th RF Gun Battalion Southern Army 2nd Army 9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 10th RF Gun Battalion 7th Air Division 1st RF Gun Battalion 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 40th JNAF AF Unit Defending units: 1st USMC Parachute Battalion So thats pinpointed 4 Divs now did they come from the south or is this the Cawnpore garrison fleeing - I am not sure. ON the coastal Axis 1st US Corps attacked and cleared Surat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 39,21 (near Surat) Allied Deliberate attack Attacking force 10288 troops, 211 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 789 Defending force 203 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2 Allied adjusted assault: 414 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 414 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 247 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 1 Assaulting units: 32nd Infantry Division 1st Marine Division Defending units: 15th JAAF AF Bn And in the centre a Chindit Bde made an assault landing securing Chanda -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chanda (42,29) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 243 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15 Defending force 158 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1 Allied adjusted assault: 12 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Chanda !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-) preparation(-) Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-) Japanese ground losses: 30 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Assaulting units: 111th Chindit Bde /2 Defending units: 3rd Indpt SNLF Coy

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/16/2021 12:09:11 AM)
The identification of such a large force at Gorakhpur may change my intentions 1st Australian Corps Advancing south is one of my 'Heavy' Corps 4 Strong Inf Divs but its supposed to take Lucknow and mask Cawnpore in passing whereas III and IV Indian Corps between them only have 4 Divs III Corps is supposed to cut the railine south below Gorakhpur and hold onto Allabad whilst IV Indian Corps heads south for Patna. This intel of the location of the IJA 2nd Army with a LOT of Arty in the open may change my plans slightly I am tempted to weaken XXXIII Corps drive on Jubbelpore and transfer 2 Divs to III Corps that way I can keep IV Corps Driving South and use the beefed up III Corps to try and pin IJA 2nd Army in place. BUT that leaves XXXIII Corps weak and leaves the flank of XV Corps slightly open depending on what he has at Jubbelpore/Nagpur may stop XXXIII Corps achieving its goal. Choices choices

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/16/2021 12:13:20 AM)
I could use 77th Chindits and 50th Indian Para Bde to try and take Nagpur or Raipur via coup de main but that means I will have committed all my air assault assets but if they succeed would give me time to leave the full investing of Nagpur to 1st US Corps They have a very good raod once Bombay is invested. Need to think this through

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/16/2021 12:17:19 AM)
4/1st Tank Division is loaded on a Lima Cargo class xAK moving to Calcutta.....

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/16/2021 12:19:12 AM)
2/Guards Mixed Brigade is loaded on a Lima Cargo class xAK moving to Calcutta.

RangerJoe -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/16/2021 12:24:57 AM)
Four engine beasts on troops in the open![X(][:'(] It doesn't look like a lot of additional AAA there either so go down low with the 4Es!

BBfanboy -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/16/2021 6:41:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Andy Mac 4/1st Tank Division is loaded on a Lima Cargo class xAK moving to Calcutta..... Do you have subs to pave the path from Calcutta to the Strait of Malacca?

Bif1961 -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/16/2021 2:27:10 PM)
What would Lee and Jackson do? You troops are faster than his on the ground, with your highly mechanized force. Remember Patton and operation Cobra; breakout and run wild in open ground cutting his forces off from their major bases of Calcutta, Madras and Chittagong. Your use of coordinated air drops to cut rail lines can continue to move forward and make him to start garrison key railroad links and further stretch out his forces. Pummel him in the open with your 4-engine beasts and his retreats will be turned into routs. If he has control of the sea then he may try to Dunkirk major forces cut off behind your lines, so have torpedo and dive bombers ready to punish him if he goes that route.

BBfanboy -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/16/2021 6:30:55 PM)
The other side of the "control of the sea" issue is getting enough supply into India to sustain that many troops in combat ... Two can play at the cutting off supply lines game. [sm=sterb029.gif]

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/17/2021 8:48:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Andy Mac 4/1st Tank Division is loaded on a Lima Cargo class xAK moving to Calcutta..... Do you have subs to pave the path from Calcutta to the Strait of Malacca? Yes but not enough

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/17/2021 8:49:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bif1961 What would Lee and Jackson do? You troops are faster than his on the ground, with your highly mechanized force. Remember Patton and operation Cobra; breakout and run wild in open ground cutting his forces off from their major bases of Calcutta, Madras and Chittagong. Your use of coordinated air drops to cut rail lines can continue to move forward and make him to start garrison key railroad links and further stretch out his forces. Pummel him in the open with your 4-engine beasts and his retreats will be turned into routs. If he has control of the sea then he may try to Dunkirk major forces cut off behind your lines, so have torpedo and dive bombers ready to punish him if he goes that route. Yes and no I hate being unbalanced and my tank units are vulnerable if on their own I only have Armoured and Motorised Bdes and I never send troops into battle unsupplied or unsupported unless I have to

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/17/2021 8:50:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy The other side of the "control of the sea" issue is getting enough supply into India to sustain that many troops in combat ... Two can play at the cutting off supply lines game. [sm=sterb029.gif] About 3m supply in India at present = not worried about supply I built up a great Admin base before i launched this attack

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/17/2021 8:54:25 PM)
He is pulling back no question about it Indore is bombed at night by my 2 Night Bombing Groups and the defences are getting weaker IJA bombers hit Allahabad as I am saving my fighters he got a free hit - cost him 42 bombers to Flak for 30 of mine on the ground....he hasnt been back since I think the concentrated Flak was an unpleasant surprise.... Morning Air attack on Allahabad , at 51,26 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M2 Nell x 3 G3M3 Nell x 24 G4M1 Betty x 9 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak G3M3 Nell: 7 damaged G3M3 Nell: 4 destroyed by flak G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses IL-2: 7 damaged IL-2: 1 destroyed on ground C-47 Skytrain: 3 damaged C-47 Skytrain: 1 destroyed on ground R4D-1 Skytrain: 3 damaged R4D-1 Skytrain: 2 destroyed on ground SB-2: 2 damaged SB-2: 1 destroyed on ground Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 4 Aircraft Attacking: 22 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 11000 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 8 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb 3 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet * Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Allahabad , at 51,26 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 27 G3M2 Nell x 30 G4M1 Betty x 27 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses G3M2 Nell: 11 damaged G3M2 Nell: 4 destroyed by flak G4M1 Betty: 5 damaged G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses C-47 Skytrain: 6 damaged C-47 Skytrain: 6 destroyed on ground Beaufighter Ic: 1 damaged R4D-1 Skytrain: 8 damaged R4D-1 Skytrain: 2 destroyed on ground IL-2: 3 damaged IL-2: 1 destroyed on ground Allied ground losses: 6 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 9 Aircraft Attacking: 29 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet * Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb 24 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/17/2021 8:55:46 PM)
He is definitley evaccing fast Lucknow and Cawnpore will both be mine soon Ground combat at Benares (51,27) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 9827 troops, 98 guns, 684 vehicles, Assault Value = 529 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied adjusted assault: 523 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 523 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Benares !!! Combat modifiers Attacker: shock(+) Assaulting units: 50th Tank Brigade 254th Armoured Brigade 268th Motorised Brigade -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Lucknow (52,23) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 30 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied adjusted assault: 2 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3) Allied forces CAPTURE Lucknow !!! Combat modifiers Attacker: op mode(-), shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-) Assaulting units: 1st USMC Parachute Bn /1

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/17/2021 9:04:17 PM)
Identified at Benares 3 Divisons retreating from Indian British Armour 2nd Div 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment ... 21st Division ... 33rd Division ... 10th RF Gun Battalion ... Southern Army ... 8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment ... 7th Air Division ... Also At Gorakhpur Imperial Guards Division 58th Division 3rd Tank Division 19th Naval Guard Unit 7th JAAF Base Force 32nd Field AA Battalion 26th Fld AA Gun Co 34th Field AA Battalion 6th Air Division 35th Fld AA Gun Co 40th JNAF AF Unit So thats 6 Divisons definitly identified on the Benares/Gorakhpur defences all unser Japanese 2nd Army 14th Army is in pursuit and has cut 3 of the Divisons off (temporarily at Ghorakpur) The only question is can I Marshall enough forces to cut him off permanently and annihalate them before they can link up. Worryingly if he has 6 Divs on this axis what does he have in the West If he gets 6 - 10 Divs back to Calcutta and digs in that could be a problem....

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/17/2021 9:06:04 PM)
I think he is pulling back to Assam and the coast Going to try a risky drop with the fresh 77th Chindit Bde tomorrow to try and cause more mayhem in his backline they may not succeed but its worth the attempt - if he is pulling back a lot of his forces may be in strategic mode which gives me a chance. Andy

RangerJoe -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/17/2021 9:15:29 PM)
Take a look what Castor Troy did at Calcutta. You do not want to try and take it that way.

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/17/2021 9:18:08 PM)
14th Army Front Lead elements of XV Corps have reached Bhopal and will try to assault the base tomorrow The remainder of the Corps is 3/4 days behind so if 7th Armoured Bde and 255th Armoured Bde cannot win tomorrow the infantry and Arty will be up in a few days Lead Armoured Cav Regt of III indian Corps will arrive at Jubbelpore within 48 hours - the rest of the Corps is probably a week behind them - unlikely 1 tank Regt equipped with Stuarts will be sufficient XXXIII Corps is co ordinating the Gorakhpur mess but I suspect is going to be too late to pocket them I Aus Corps has entrained given the news from Lucknow and is en route to Benares where it and IV Corps will drive south with all speed. On 6th Army Front I US Corps is advancing on Jalagoan but it looks like a long slow road over bad terrain XIV Corps is advancing on Bombay along the coast but still got 170 miles to go - it looks like Bombay may be weakly defended

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/18/2021 2:41:09 PM)
hmmm reinforcements now going to Rangoon more signs he is pulling back 23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment is loaded on xAK Nagato Maru moving to Calcutta. 2nd Area Army is loaded on a Std-C Cargo class xAK moving to Rangoon. Guards Mixed Brigade is loaded on a Akasi Cargo class xAK moving to Rangoon. 4/Guards Mixed Brigade is loaded on a Japanese TK moving to Rangoon. unfortunately he can probably run faster than I can follow

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/18/2021 3:44:17 PM)
Keeps on going he has abandoned Bhopal and the troop count at Bombay is low... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Bhopal (45,24) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 5719 troops, 44 guns, 590 vehicles, Assault Value = 388 Defending force 16528 troops, 133 guns, 147 vehicles, Assault Value = 483 Allied adjusted assault: 382 Japanese adjusted defense: 839 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-) experience(-) Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-) Japanese ground losses: 267 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 43 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled) Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled) Allied ground losses: 164 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Assaulting units: 255th Armoured Brigade 44th Cavalry Regiment 7th Armoured Brigade Defending units: 14th Division 14th Army 61st JNAF AF Unit -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Indore (43,22) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 70 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied adjusted assault: 8 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 4) Allied forces CAPTURE Indore !!! Combat modifiers Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-) Assaulting units: 50th Indian Para Bde /1

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/18/2021 4:06:25 PM)
Map to assist - my plan has kind of worked he faces so many threats that he has pulled back But also not because so far he has not concentrated against any one of the threats so I am actually quite dispersed at present I basically have 3 Armies in the field at present 6th US Army in the West slowly marching down the coastal axis with far more of my strength than it needs 14th Army III Indian and XV Indian Corps driving in the centre towards Jubbelpore and Bhopal and then in the east newly activated 1st Australian Army with 1st Australian Corps and IV Indian Corps driving south from Benares to Asanol and Patna Andy [image]local://upfiles/11987/BE1542D7F4D74990A501C9E235D81B7B.jpg[/image]

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/18/2021 6:00:59 PM)
I am a little worried about just how dispersed I am my Armies are advancing across a huge area on 6 different axis of advance if I need to reconcentrate to deal with a pukka threat ie if I walk into 10ish Divs then that could get hairy My Intentions XXXIII Corps will mop up in the rear 14th Army after securing Bhopal and Jubbelpore will advance on the nagtpur/Raipur/Jamshedpur line towards Calcutta where it will link up with 1st Australian Army 6th US Army will take Bombay and Jalgoan and will then send I US Corps towards Nagpur where it will either join the others in attacking Calcutta or will move to Madras XIV Corps will take Bombay and then move on Hyderabad cl3earing the rail lines as it goes If he decides to stand in Assam I will send all my light armour and armoured cars to XIV Corps to speed up the rest of the reconquest If he keeps running I will pursue

Andy Mac -> RE: Operation Hydra kicks off (3/18/2021 6:43:30 PM)
Houston we have a problem the British Army just received a shipment of coffee meant for the yanks Running low on tea emergency emergency !!!! Time for a para drop on Darjeeling must have tea never mind bullets beans or fuel must have tea.....

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