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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/21/2021 6:02:39 PM)

Turn 5 Beginning of Turn

19th PZ seems to have been pushed hard being @ a 4=8 showing.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/21/2021 6:09:49 PM)

Turn 5 Beginning of turn

North

Current Line. I will start putting a turn delay so I can show my deposition of troops. So the posting here after this turn may be a few days before something new shows up after this turn on the AAR.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/21/2021 6:10:49 PM)

Turn 5 Beginning of turn

Center

Current Line. I will start putting a turn delay so I can show my deposition of troops. So the posting here after this turn may be a few days before something new shows up after this turn on the AAR.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/21/2021 6:11:26 PM)

Turn 5 Beginning of turn

South

Current Line. I will start putting a turn delay so I can show my deposition of troops. So the posting here after this turn may be a few days before something new shows up after this turn on the AAR.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/21/2021 6:12:06 PM)

Turn 5 Beginning of turn

Ground losses since last turn



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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/21/2021 6:13:29 PM)

Turn 5 Beginning of turn

Air Losses

Ouch!!! All of my losses were new planes and experienced pilots over 59+. :( Yup, going to use the old models and lesser experience pilots first.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/21/2021 11:13:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

Turn 5 Beginning of turn

Air Battles will be from North, West, East, and South

4th battle South

This battle is another the Soviets get murdered in. The only thing that is missing are the blindfolds. Thus even well rested Soviets over 59+ experience I feel is not the answer up front to confront the Germans. I feel you are going to have to use some of the older models and medi-core pilots to start at a minimum thinning out the Germans if going Head to head in air combat. That is what I came to the other day & this turn re-affirms my conviction so far. Which could change of course if someone shows me a better way. Because lords knows I could have done things incorrect for the Soviet side.




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I remember this conversation...

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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS


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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

Turn 1 End of Soviet Turn

The Mig is just not for me. Granted they are produced faster than cockroaches the durability & light armament just isn't doing it for me. I have a hunch that the Lagg is going to shoot down more because of the armament. But hey I could be eating crow in a few turns.


Yes, it has the best armament with the worst max speed, durability and maneuverability. Still, you may show me something here, but wouldn't bet my life savings on it.




You may be cherry picking your photo here ;-) I could cherry pick battle 8 or 7 ;-P (Also look at the air battles for the Northwestern front I posted earlier. Mig losses are through the roof(which could be bacuse there were more Migs)) At this point I want the aircraft that is going to shoot down the most Germans. If that happens to be the Lagg then that is my aircraft.



The Lagg-3 did shot down more German Aircraft so far ;-) Plus look at total overall losses on all the battles. My Laggs have not done overly bad.

But I have to say that M60 could still be correct overall.


After an in depth look it was the Mig-3 that shot down the most aircraft. M60 is 100% correct in his assessment so far :) I will continue using the new aircraft and trained pilots to see how things turn out after a few more turns. No matter what, the Germans are going to be killing a great many aircraft.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/21/2021 11:16:34 PM)

Again M60 was correct & this is my second group of Migs with high kills. The other Mig Squadrons sux compared to the Yak's and Lagg's though.

M60's turn to tell me, "I told you so" ;-P

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:27:33 PM)

Turn 6

Weather!!!



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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:28:16 PM)

Turn 6

Events!!!

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:30:32 PM)

Turn 6 Beginning of Turn

North section Russia 30,000+ feet up (Real time update)



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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:32:03 PM)

Turn 6 Beginning of Turn

South section Russia 30,000+ feet up (Real time update)

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:34:35 PM)

Turn 6 Beginning of Turn

North closer view (Real time update)

Defense closer in view of the North.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:35:49 PM)

Turn 6 (Beginning of Turn)

North

Model attacks across the Narva

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:37:38 PM)

Turn 6 Beginning of turn

Pskov area

Battles in the Pskov area. I did have one decent combat roll this turn :-)

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:38:56 PM)

Turn 6 Beginning of Turn

Smolensk Area



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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:39:39 PM)

Turn 6

Bryansk Area German Attacks

Hard area to attack in for the Germans. Frontal assaults are brutal.



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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:42:05 PM)

Turn 6 Beginning of Turn

Kharkov battle area

Sorry, can't show my units here since this is real time updates. Lots of battles and not exactly doing well at the moment here.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:48:08 PM)

Turn 6 Beginning of Turn

Crimea defense

The Units I saved from an Odessa City-Fort are now defending the gateway to the Crimea. I would much rather have my, up to 10 divisions, here defending then to be force surrender in Odessa. But again that is me. I will use City-Forts but I believe in the early game the Soviets are just self inflicting unit Surrenders to gain minimal advantage. Yes you may gain more against an inexperienced person not knowing how to attack a City-Fort but if you play someone that does it is just good money going after bad putting units there. I know many wont agree with this but that is how I am playing it. Of course I could be totally wrong.

This should be a multi turn clear of the swamps to even get across.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:51:15 PM)

Turn 6 Beginning of Turn

Ground losses

German war machine just getting into contact & these numbers are going to be going up quickly. This is just the calm before the grinding it looks like :( So far just been a game of move to contact next turn it becomes real I feel.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/24/2021 3:52:54 PM)

Turn 6 Beginning of Turn

Air Losses since last turn

What can I say? Not much other than the Germans "own" the sky. Not much I can do but be shot down and slowly gain some good squadrons. Just a work in progress.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/25/2021 2:42:35 PM)

Turn 6

Gotta love these shells starting at zero again from a German attack ;-) Must have been a perfect attack to get rid of everyone and keep the counter, lol.
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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/25/2021 2:44:48 PM)

Turn 7

Weather!!!!


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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/25/2021 2:45:54 PM)

Turn 7

Events!!!

Partisans are in the house!

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/25/2021 2:51:59 PM)

Turn 7 Beginning of Turn

North (Real time updates)

Model Attacks again and is stopped on the Narva. M60 will appreciate that his forecast was correct so far on the Lagg -3 being a flying coffin. The Lagg suffered 2-1 vs other Soviet aircraft in this battle. But on the same token it really doesn't seem to matter what you throw at the Germans they are going to cut through them in the Air. These were all the Soviet High experience flyers. Oh well. Will just swamp the Germans with numbers I guess ;-)

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/25/2021 2:57:19 PM)

Turn 7 Beginning of Turn

Pskov

The Germans have secured the Pskov valley, what I call it marked by yellow. The Germans also firmly secured a foothold across Lake Pskov/Peipus.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/25/2021 3:02:17 PM)

Turn 7 Beginning of Turn

Smolensk Area

Germans slowly grinding in this area. One of my strongest areas on the map based on Moscows importance. You can tell by the infantry strength. Soviets air groups getting massacred here to.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/25/2021 3:08:20 PM)

Turn 7 Beginning of Turn

Bryansk (real time update)

Color show on counter is supplies(from all the attacks but will keep an eye on it). Breakthrough to the south of Bryansk. Orel front left and all counters are white. This will convert to Reserve front this turn(I have the central front too).

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/25/2021 3:12:54 PM)

Turn 7

Kursk (Real time update)

Lots of German infantry on the front. I really don't put much value on CAV as infantry & thus these 3,000 man Cav divisions are the perfect sacrificial lambs. Germans seemed to stop and surround them. Fine by me.

Cav divisions aren't what they were in WITE1.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Order of Victory Dodo98(G) vs HLYA(S) (4/25/2021 3:16:30 PM)

Turn 7 Beginning of Turn

Dnep area

Germans just blowing everything away in front of them. Germans surround another CAV Division here. Soviet Air getting blown out of the sky. Guess I will just throw more airplanes at the problem ;-P

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