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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/7/2021 2:28:10 AM)

Turn 3 (real time update)

Air phase

VL looks to have a unit in it. Recon didn't show anything circled in orange and I suspect a unit to be where the X is. Will prob this area for a unit since I would like to surround VL. I want that Level 2 RAILYARD :)

Can be seen the Soviet line forming to the SE of VL.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/7/2021 2:34:50 AM)

Turn 3 (real time update)

Air phase

Well, I forgot to put aircraft for recon in the yellow recon mission :( Oh well, I sux at this game. But circled in orange looks like a nice piece of cake sitting out there :) I love Soviets that do this. I would almost bet you 100% there is a Soviet unit on one of those two rough terrain to the SE of the circled orange unit. Will find out shortly.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/7/2021 2:39:06 AM)

Turn 3 (real time update)

Air Phase

The line is where I thought it was EXCEPT for the northern part of this. Is the unit circled in Orange a creeper trying to inflitrate my backfield if I miss it? Or is that the cornerstone of the Soviet line extending to the NE? Will prob and find out.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/7/2021 2:42:46 AM)

Turn 3 (real time update)

Air Phase

Yup, the Soviets are where I thought they were. Should be interesting. Is that more cake I see circled in Orange? Look like it is :)

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/7/2021 2:47:57 AM)

Saving the turn to the Server and calling it a night. Got an early morning :(



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/14/2021 9:54:50 PM)

I want to re-iterate here this game is a "No Early End" game. That means the Soviets have to match or exceed my HWM in the game on a victory check at the end of 44 to continue. Otherwise, from what I can tell in the rules, I win.

Just so people reading this will know what we are playing here since there are "no" Sudden Victory or Sudden Loss checks in this game prior to the end of 44 check.

Enjoy the show & hope I don't get beat up too bad.



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/14/2021 10:12:11 PM)

Turn 3 Beginning Ground Phase

Have a few "cup-cakes" the Soviets left to slow me up last turn. I am in no hurry here so I surrounded last turn and move forward. All cup-cakes will be assimilated or die this turn ;-)



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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/14/2021 10:48:24 PM)

Turn 3 Beginning Ground Phase

More Cup-cakes the Soviets left behind last turn. I go out of my way for the assimilation process. All cup-cakes will be assimilated or die this turn ;-)

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/14/2021 11:02:41 PM)

Turn 3 Beginning Ground Phase

Another slow cup-cake runner. Will be assimilated or die this turn ;-)

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/14/2021 11:21:36 PM)

Turn 3 Beginning of Ground phase

Just a note that from the recon you can tell the Soviet player is defending the double track rail with heavy pipe hitters. You have 3 units in the urban hex circled in Orange & 3 mountain Divisions. So the weight of Defense here is pretty strong & more than likely reserves set up. There is a Security on the front line. Highly unlikely Jubjub would put a rgmt there. So this SEC unit is a Division. The Airborne is the weak part of the line and thus the defense is tapered from strongest in the middle guarding the rail line to weakest with the Airborne. That is my best estimation of the Soviets front line.

The units (cup-cakes) circled in green should be in the woods without other Soviets around. That is my target this turn. If the Soviets stay another turn then they could be surrounded from the South if still guarding the Orange circle area.

By the way, the dual track Rail line towards Kiev does not concern me at the moment since the FBD is linking up Odessa(if I can take it quick enough) first to the track out of Poland. Thus the Rumainian FBD and German FBD should link up(all depends on Odessa though)

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/15/2021 1:27:13 AM)

Turn 3 End of Turn for picture above

I wont bore people with too much detail but the SS Wiking attacks from the NW the 130RD and Soviet division retreats SW. Then follow up with 11 PZ Division against 44 TD which retreats SW. Then close the pocket. I misclicked the Rumanian PZ Division which was supposed to be in the hex marked with a blue X but it works where it is. Will show me how aggressive the Soviet player is. Not like I can change the location or anything ;-P

(please note some movement of other units took place to get the desired retreat paths)

The the soft factors is show Unit Expeperience in this photo.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/15/2021 1:51:38 AM)

Turn 3 Ground Phase Center Beginning

The bottom green arrow is what I will try first to prob for Soviet units. More than likely there is a Soviet unit on one of those 3 rough terrain with the Northern most rough hex being the likely candidate. If that is the case I will then move the top green arrow into place to force the Soviet unit to the SW. I will also position other German units in key locations to make sure the Soviet unit doesnt retreat to an undesired location. Please note I do NOT seal off this area ;) All I say on that. The orange line is my Incoming SS Division which I use for these types of attacks. Against single units they rarely fail PLUS these Soviet units are usually beefed up & good Morale so they arent going to shatter or route right away ;-) May take an attack or two but they will retreat instead of route. As you saw on the Experience Soft Factor on the South units it was the case.

I just didn't have the units to flood this area the way I like this turn. Very few infantry will even get close by the end of turn 3 having gone North :( Normally I just amoeba these forward Soviet units without attacking but not enough Germans to do so so had to herd.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/15/2021 1:55:52 AM)

Turn 3 Ground Phase Center End of turn

here is the end of Turn. You can see the Infantry exhausted all movement points to get where they are :( Less than a PZ Corps in the Area. Rest of them being up North.

I retreat the Airborne unit in the Land bridge line making the Soviet line vulnerable next turn. Choice by the Soviet will need to be made.

Soft factor is experience.

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M60A3TTS -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/16/2021 8:49:51 PM)

What do ground and air losses look like at this point?



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/16/2021 9:06:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

What do ground and air losses look like at this point?


Air losses for me have been a bit bad :( I "F'd" myself by trying a different setting % to fly. Doesn't work too well so I switch it back to what I normally run T5. 178 total losses for me Turn 3 :(

Currently I am at turn 5 but can't do the turn and fully update this AAR because of workload :( Should be clear by Thursday though.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/16/2021 9:14:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

What do ground and air losses look like at this point?


Here are ground losses end of Turn 3. I am really not pushing hard on most of the map. Which will contribute to me losing the game in the end I am sure. I have been concentrating on the rail network and moving forward slowly. Of course Jubjub is doing the retreat strat to stay out of range on most of my units on a lot of the map & when he does stay he puts up a very hard defense.



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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 4:24:50 AM)

Turn 3 End of Turn

The way past VL was open. Recon was correct again, see earlier photo in the AAR. I go for broke and push past VL to see if I can capture as much as I can of the Heavy woods in the area. Lots hinge on next turn if I continue this way or not from a Soviet response in the area. So turn 4 will be a nail bitter when I open it up.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 4:32:45 AM)

T3 End of Turn

Surround the remaining Soviets on the Rumanian border. These guys been beating the sh*t out of my Rumanian regiments :(

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 4:35:30 AM)

T3 End of Turn

North

Finished off the surround of Pskov and catch a few division north of Pskov.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 4:38:19 AM)

Turn 3 End of Turn

Tallinn

Here is the first attack which misses :( Bleh, I miss and that is that. I try again since I was close.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 4:40:13 AM)

Turn 3 End of Turn

Tallinn

2nd attack succeeds. I get a retreat and route. Was really no place for these guys to go to safely & knew they would be easily captured in either side pocket.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 4:43:00 AM)

Turn 3 End of Turn

The pockets around Tallinn

I count 22 Soviet units in all pockets this turn not including HQ's which I don't count. Most pockets should be secure.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 4:51:20 AM)

Turn 3 End of Turn

OOB

I did post air losses and ground losses earlier in the AAR upon request from M60.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 4:59:24 AM)

Turn 3 End of Turn

Comments

VL opened up a road that I may or may not take next turn. The German infantry lives depend on it.

So, a Poll if you will. Will the main target be Leningrad or Moscow. Of course Jubjub you can't vote ;-)

Please post your vote in this thread :)



carlkay58 -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 11:06:20 AM)

I think that depends on the Soviet reaction to your move. The Soviets will be stretched and you may be able to turn your thrust to Moscow while also having AGN continue on to Leningrad able to take it without the help of AGC.



BrianG -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 11:54:10 AM)

straight towards Rzhev, leaving options.



AlbertN -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 12:13:41 PM)

My vote is dependant on Air Recon.

I've learnt the hard way Soviets decide where Germans can go in '41 since Soviets can be locally, defensively way stronger than German exhausted troops.
Thus Germans must be like water, and seep and direct where the Soviets want.




Gam3r -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 12:24:15 PM)

I vote for Moscow.



HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 4:42:01 PM)

Turn 4 Beginning of Turn

Weather!!!

Freaking RAIN in the North.

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HardLuckYetAgain -> RE: Hell on Earth (Axis) HLYA vs (Soviet) JubJub (8/19/2021 4:44:10 PM)

Turn 4 Beginning of Turn

Events

Partisans active. I have already moved units into the Partisan box early. Want to get ahead of this quickly to nip it in the AZZ is my thinking. Another reason I like Enhanced TB control on.

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