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ORIGINAL: Aurelian

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ORIGINAL: Gilmer

I'm vaccinated. And there is a lot of misinformation on both sides. Fauci has contributed to this because there are verified videos and everything of him say exactly opposite things at many points during the whole situation.

So in other words, as more information becomes available, he has shifted as he has learned more about coronavirus. Science is like that, Just like how now, getting gut shot isn't the death sentence it was in 1862.

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ORIGINAL: springel

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ORIGINAL: jwarrenw13

And we can never know from our politicians and media and big tech what the facts are.

You are right. But with a rational population people would do the right thing anyway. Oh wait.

- Masks do help (a little bit)
- The chance of medical harm from covid is vastly larger than that from a vaccine, except for a few people with certain conditions
- if you catch covid and don't get harmed, you are still helping the disease to spread and harm others

All good behaviour will mostly beneficial for others, but that seems to have no value for a lot of selfish bastards.

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ORIGINAL: springel

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ORIGINAL: jwarrenw13

And we can never know from our politicians and media and big tech what the facts are.

You are right. But with a rational population people would do the right thing anyway. Oh wait.

- Masks do help (a little bit)
- The chance of medical harm from covid is vastly larger than that from a vaccine, except for a few people with certain conditions
- if you catch covid and don't get harmed, you are still helping the disease to spread and harm others

All good behaviour will mostly beneficial for others, but that seems to have no value for a lot of selfish bastards.

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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69


I can see Sicily burning from here. The fires near Catania cause a black cloud visible during the day. During the night the horizon is faintly glowing. Another cloud, this one greyish, is faintly visible. That's Palermo.

Sardinia is burning. Marche and Abruzzo are burning.

Siberia is burning. Canada burned. Australia burned. Cyprus and Greece burned. Turkey, Spain, Oregon and California are burning.

But if I try to start a discourse about Climate Change [screech]"that's political!!"[/screech] My old teacher nailed it.

One day a cockroach will teach to little cockroaches: "First there were the dinosaurs, but an asteroid too care of them. Then human beings, but, sadly, their brain wattage was not enough to really endure. Now it's our turn!"

And good luck to them.

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ORIGINAL: rustysi

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feel no responsibility to protect the willfully unvaccinated so I won't mask up unless a place requests

I am vaccinated and those around me are as well. I will do what I feel is necessary to protect myself and those around me, especially my grandchildren!!!!!!!!! Whom at this time are not able to get the shots. Now you may say this or that about children not getting the virus or getting a lesser case, I DON'T CARE!!!!!! As far as those whom refuse to get the vaccine I don't care, except I will do whatever I can to protect their sorry a$$es as well.

This is not a political subject as far as I'm concerned, its about doing the right thing!!!!! And that is doing what you have to do, and that's getting vaccinated!!!! And if you don't believe that, well I wish polio, smallpox, measles, Covid, and all the other ailments that vaccines have saved us from on you and your people. I for one am sick and tired of those whom believe that science is lying to us at every turn. And if I get the vaccine and die, or have another reaction as well, well I still have attempted to do the right thing!!!!!! With seven billion people on the earth not many will miss me, and those that will, will still say, 'he tried to do the right thing'.

Yes, check out what is being said, and be informed, but if you listen to those who say the vaccine 'magnetized' them, please take the next comet off my planet. Remember them??? A definite improvement in the 'gene pool'. Oh, and speaking of which, when are we going to stop swimming in the shallow end????

You know, except for my family and close friends this pandemic has been kinda a relief for myself, because I haven't had to deal with all the nitwits!!!!!

I am sorry for the rant, but I can't contain myself any longer. Also I apologize to any I have offended, and I'm sure there are more than a few here.....

I could go on, but I fear I've gone way too far already.

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ORIGINAL: balto

The media is playing it up.., Florida is Republican.

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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

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ORIGINAL: balto

The media is playing it up.., Florida is Republican.

And the Delta variant is? I never heard before of a virus with a political opinion.

BTW, as I wrote in these forums one year ago, a distant cousin of mine is a bigwig in Cleveland Clinic Florida, Weston Hospital. I won't mention her specialization for privacy reasons but she is not a virologist: her specialization is on the other side of the spectrum. I called her about ten days ago, and she said that they were about to instaurate an "all hands on deck" emergency with everybody ordered to ditch what they are doing and be ready for the COVID ward.

AGAIN. She was drafted for the same thing in Spring 2020. The last thing she imagined was to find herself in the same situation after one year.

She is a very fine woman, with a sweet voice. She concentrated all the cursing she will ever do in her whole life in that last phone call. The ratio of curses vs. normal words was 7/2.

So, politically, what I just wrote is..?

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

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ORIGINAL: balto

The media is playing it up.., Florida is Republican.

And the Delta variant is? I never heard before of a virus with a political opinion.

BTW, as I wrote in these forums one year ago, a distant cousin of mine is a bigwig in Cleveland Clinic Florida, Weston Hospital. I won't mention her specialization for privacy reasons but she is not a virologist: her specialization is on the other side of the spectrum. I called her about ten days ago, and she said that they were about to instaurate an "all hands on deck" emergency with everybody ordered to ditch what they are doing and be ready for the COVID ward.

AGAIN. She was drafted for the same thing in Spring 2020. The last thing she imagined was to find herself in the same situation after one year.

She is a very fine woman, with a sweet voice. She concentrated all the cursing she will ever do in her whole life in that last phone call. The ratio of curses vs. normal words was 7/2.

So, politically, what I just wrote is..?

Of course, since every potential Covid-19 patient is worth three times more money to the hospital, they will try to have as many cases as possible Covid-19 cases. I reported on that over a year ago.

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
Of course, since every potential Covid-19 patient is worth three times more money to the hospital, they will try to have as many cases as possible Covid-19 cases. I reported on that over a year ago.

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ORIGINAL: springel

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

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ORIGINAL: balto

The media is playing it up.., Florida is Republican.

And the Delta variant is? I never heard before of a virus with a political opinion.

BTW, as I wrote in these forums one year ago, a distant cousin of mine is a bigwig in Cleveland Clinic Florida, Weston Hospital. I won't mention her specialization for privacy reasons but she is not a virologist: her specialization is on the other side of the spectrum. I called her about ten days ago, and she said that they were about to instaurate an "all hands on deck" emergency with everybody ordered to ditch what they are doing and be ready for the COVID ward.

AGAIN. She was drafted for the same thing in Spring 2020. The last thing she imagined was to find herself in the same situation after one year.

She is a very fine woman, with a sweet voice. She concentrated all the cursing she will ever do in her whole life in that last phone call. The ratio of curses vs. normal words was 7/2.

So, politically, what I just wrote is..?

Of course, since every potential Covid-19 patient is worth three times more money to the hospital, they will try to have as many cases as possible Covid-19 cases. I reported on that over a year ago.

You are sick.

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
Of course, since every potential Covid-19 patient is worth three times more money to the hospital, they will try to have as many cases as possible Covid-19 cases. I reported on that over a year ago.

So, you are basically telling us that no-vaxxers in the USA will go bankrupt.

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

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ORIGINAL: balto

The media is playing it up.., Florida is Republican.

And the Delta variant is? I never heard before of a virus with a political opinion.

BTW, as I wrote in these forums one year ago, a distant cousin of mine is a bigwig in Cleveland Clinic Florida, Weston Hospital. I won't mention her specialization for privacy reasons but she is not a virologist: her specialization is on the other side of the spectrum. I called her about ten days ago, and she said that they were about to instaurate an "all hands on deck" emergency with everybody ordered to ditch what they are doing and be ready for the COVID ward.

AGAIN. She was drafted for the same thing in Spring 2020. The last thing she imagined was to find herself in the same situation after one year.

She is a very fine woman, with a sweet voice. She concentrated all the cursing she will ever do in her whole life in that last phone call. The ratio of curses vs. normal words was 7/2.

So, politically, what I just wrote is..?

Of course, since every potential Covid-19 patient is worth three times more money to the hospital, they will try to have as many cases as possible Covid-19 cases. I reported on that over a year ago.

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ORIGINAL: ElvisJJonesRambo

It's always about the money. The love of money is the root of all evil.

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ORIGINAL: Aurelian

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

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ORIGINAL: balto

The media is playing it up.., Florida is Republican.

And the Delta variant is? I never heard before of a virus with a political opinion.

BTW, as I wrote in these forums one year ago, a distant cousin of mine is a bigwig in Cleveland Clinic Florida, Weston Hospital. I won't mention her specialization for privacy reasons but she is not a virologist: her specialization is on the other side of the spectrum. I called her about ten days ago, and she said that they were about to instaurate an "all hands on deck" emergency with everybody ordered to ditch what they are doing and be ready for the COVID ward.

AGAIN. She was drafted for the same thing in Spring 2020. The last thing she imagined was to find herself in the same situation after one year.

She is a very fine woman, with a sweet voice. She concentrated all the cursing she will ever do in her whole life in that last phone call. The ratio of curses vs. normal words was 7/2.

So, politically, what I just wrote is..?

Of course, since every potential Covid-19 patient is worth three times more money to the hospital, they will try to have as many cases as possible Covid-19 cases. I reported on that over a year ago.

And that was debunked over a year ago. Try and keep up.

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Fauci: Mixed Messaging On Masks Set U.S. Public Health Response Back
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The nation's leading infectious disease experts said the conflicting advice offered by federal leaders around face masks in the early days of the pandemic helped sow distrust and continues to hamper the government's ability to slow the outbreak.

"We have to admit it, that that mixed message in the beginning, even though it was well meant to allow masks to be available for health workers, that was detrimental in getting the message across," Fauci said in an interview with Mary Louise Kelly of NPR's All Things Considered. "No doubt about it."
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As late as February 29, Surgeon General Jerome Adams was telling Americans on Twitter to stop buying masks, saying they are "NOT effective." But the guidance soon changed, and by early April the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention began recommending that Americans wear face coverings in public. . . .

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ORIGINAL: springel

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ORIGINAL: ElvisJJonesRambo
Inject some untested DNA crap into my body for their manufactured flu, which I have 99.9% survival rate? No thanks.
Better cook up a stronger batch to get my attention.
-EJR

I wish you long covid.

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ORIGINAL: Aurelian

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/21/facebook-posts/Fact-check-Hospitals-COVID-19-payments/

Medicare, as an example, pays 3x as much to the hospital if a patient is put on a *ventilator*. It doesn't matter why they're put on it.


It’s standard for Medicare to pay a hospital roughly three times as much for a patient who goes on a ventilator, as for one who doesn’t.

Medicare is paying a 20% add-on to its regular hospital payments for the treatment of COVID-19 victims. That’s a result of a federal stimulus law.

The claim’s suggestion is that the number of COVID-19 cases is being padded; but evidence indicates the cases are being undercounted.

There isn’t a Medicare diagnostic code specifically for COVID-19. Using payment rates for similar respiratory conditions, Kaiser estimated the average Medicare payment at $13,297 for a less severe hospitalization and $40,218 for hospitalization in which a patient is treated with a ventilator for at least 96 hours.