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Mr.Frag -> RE: Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight (6/26/2004 5:48:10 PM)
quote: Quick Frag....give him another thing to test ! Quickly ! Well ... I think he has enough problems without help [:D]

Dunkamoto -> RE: Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight (6/26/2004 5:52:45 PM)
What exactly are strategic losses?

Mr.Frag -> RE: Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight (6/26/2004 5:55:13 PM)
quote: What exactly are strategic losses? Bombing Industry causes damage. This is scored. This is how the Allies will end the game. It also works for Japan against Oz & USA targets. It used to work against all targets, but limits were put in to control where the points would actually count so I asked Luskan to smack Oz since he had planes in range to check it still counted.

Dunkamoto -> RE: Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight (6/26/2004 6:00:59 PM)
When industry is repaired do these points go away?

Mr.Frag -> RE: Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight (6/26/2004 6:06:53 PM)
quote: When industry is repaired do these points go away? No, so you can keep on scoring for the same thing. [:D]

Luskan -> RE: Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight (6/27/2004 5:04:46 AM)
It is official. Raver is insane. Just crazy. He sent the hermes and the Revenge, with a CL/CA/CLAA escort off to perhaps attack moulmein? Maybe to deliver aircraft to Andaman? Something loony - and he paid for it. Of course, if he'd been a turn later, he'd be a genius, but he wasn't. My own little CV fleet and attendant escorts were actually headed north to hit Chandpur, when my float planes spotted him at almost extended range (almost - we got torps thank god!) and launched. Now Raver's swordfishies had a go and got slapped down by my fighters -a nd they also had a few goes at my nearby escort tf, but that didn't work out too well for them. My losses weren't as bad as they looked - but I did put a torp into the Revenge to slow her already slow ass down, and 4 torps into the Hermes which sent her straight under the waves and the remnants of her air wing landing at andaman (empty). Now for the best part - Raver has a wounded BB out in the middle of the bay of bengal and I'm between him and his closes bases (Diamond harbour). To get to diamond harbour or chandpur, he's got to get past my little cvs. He can't really head south because I've got betties all over malaya that would love him to try and make port there. Now that I think about it, I think this had to be a diversion - a big diversion, from something up north at chandpur so I might wonder in and take a look very soon. Also, a lone tanker was spotted (possibly not alone of course) passing on what seems to be a direct line between LA and Noumea, by one of my long range scouts out of Kwajalein. I might have to investigate that too - hopefully it is a US division on transports . . . I have committed all remaining subs in the pearl area to destroying Raver's hunter killer group there. I have lost 20 subs to date, and am not reall happy about ti. I lost two more this turn, but I have six subs either in, or very nearly in that hex and hopefully I'll take a few of those over effective escorts with me. Also, my battle at lanchow is finally starting to go my way, and Raver has started to loose more troops than me. This is good, because recon planes just spotted a 127000 chinese troops marching out of Kungching towards Siam. Fortunately, I am well prepared for such an obvious counterstroke. Not sure how fast Chinese troops move, but hopefully it will take them three or four turns to get there - and my size 4 fort and thousands of defenders (I was SOOOOO expecting this!) will get to have some fun. Operation Banana Kiss is actually the luring of enemy troops out of the industrial heart and TRAPPING them via encirclement away from the heartland, without destroying them, allowing my an easier prosecution of my advances there. 70000 chinese troops trapped in the north, hopefully another 120000 to follow, and I was sort of hoping that Raver would be dumb enough to attack Canton (and i'd cut him off from Changsa and nanning) but unfortunately it seems hes happy to sit at Wuchow and wait for me. Finally China is starting to look good. Enjoy. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/14/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 105,67 Japanese Ships SS I-18, hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Ward DD Monaghan DD Alwin DD Allen DD Litchfield DD Chew DD Schley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 105,67 Japanese Ships SS I-22, hits 7, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Monaghan DD Alwin DD Allen DD Litchfield -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 105,67 Japanese Ships SS I-24 Allied Ships DD Monaghan DD Alwin DD Allen DD Litchfield DD Chew DD Schley DD Ward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 41st PA Division, at 43,51 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 Ki-21 Sally x 75 Ki-48 Lily x 9 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged Ki-48 Lily: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 172 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Aircraft Attacking: 14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 30 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet 11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 25,31 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 11 Allied aircraft Swordfish x 4 no losses Allied aircraft losses Swordfish: 4 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Kako Aircraft Attacking: 2 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 22,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 17 B5N Kate x 58 E13A1 Jake x 19 Allied aircraft Sea Gladiator x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed B5N Kate: 9 destroyed, 38 damaged Allied aircraft losses Sea Gladiator: 21 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships BB Revenge, Torpedo hits 1 CVL Hermes, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage CA Exeter CLAA Columbo Aircraft Attacking: 9 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet 2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 22,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 3 E13A1 Jake x 10 Allied aircraft Sea Gladiator x 3 no losses no losses Allied Ships BB Revenge Aircraft Attacking: 1 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet 9 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 22,33 Japanese aircraft B5N Kate x 5 Allied aircraft Sea Gladiator x 3 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied Ships CL Enterprise Aircraft Attacking: 1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Lanchow Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 261858 troops, 2621 guns, 144 vehicles Defending force 62114 troops, 205 guns, 0 vehicles Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0 Japanese ground losses: 1789 casualties reported Guns lost 46 Vehicles lost 3 Allied ground losses: 2284 casualties reported Guns lost 21 - Finally going in my favour. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Georgetown Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 3016 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles Defending force 2436 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4) Japanese ground losses: 61 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Allied ground losses: 23 casualties reported Guns lost 1

Nikademus -> oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/27/2004 5:13:48 AM)
sorry...wrong thread...too much vicodin

Raverdave -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/27/2004 8:42:47 AM)
Bugger! Poor intel has cost me HMS Hermes. I had NO idea that Luskan had any CVs in the Bay of Bengal as spotter reports had only shown BBs CAs and DDs, so based on that I had the RN CV group tracking a north-south path waiting for the expected bombardment group to strike north. I spotted them on the move and closed in only to get smashed[8\|] A very hard lesson here that cost me a CV and has also shown up a very big gap in my intel gathering.....I need more search aircraft to fix this. I china I was trying to bait Luskan towards me by forming a few armies (12 Divisions) and feint towards Sian, but it seems that Luskan is onto that. Drats ! Now I will have to come up with some other equally smart plan[8\|]. Singapore and the PI are doing there jobs in holding down japanese troops that could be used elsewhere, and one wonders just how much longer Luskan can afford to spend messing around at these two places. I suspect that he will be very keen to knock off Singapore at least by the end of Jan, and see the PI campaign finished by the end of Feb.

Cap Mandrake -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/27/2004 8:48:56 AM)
Is "Bugger" a forceful enough expression when one loses a carrier on the basis of poor intel? You gents have amazing tempraments. I would be having a tantrum.

Raverdave -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/27/2004 8:56:38 AM)
"Bugger" is the strongest word that I can get past the forum's filter.

Raverdave -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/27/2004 9:03:37 AM)
Here I am watching the combat replay[;)] [image]local://upfiles/5619/Om331788617.jpg[/image]

bradfordkay -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/27/2004 9:41:16 AM)
Haven't you changed that shirt yet? No wonder your eyes are bugging out. You need fresh air! [sm=vomit-smiley-020.gif]

Luskan -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/27/2004 10:50:56 AM)
The turns just get better and better. My troops drive the chinese out of Lanchow - and take over 300 heavy industry and lots of resources and oil, as well as cutting the remaniing 60000 chinese troops off from any supply WHATSOEVER. There is nothing north of them but a little empty base. There are no resources, not supply, and no roads or trails leading to supply and resources. Simply put, they've had it. And now I'll leave 50000 of my own troops at Lanchow, and the remaining 200k+ are already on their way back to Sian. From there they will either disperse along the front line to apply more general pressure, relieve a couple of empty bases that arebeing beaten up by partisans (only two of these however), await Raver's hundred thousand from Kungching, and move south leisurely for the siege and occupation of Wuchow. Raver tried to send his ships west - away from all bases, but was too slow. It cost me 11 more kates, but I finished the Revenge and the Columbo, as well as beating up on a couple of his other ships. Another turn or two and I think that I can close the book on this little battle as a surprise - but a complete success. With Repulse and POW not in this tf, it is thought that I must have hurt them worse than reported, otherwise they'd be in that tf I'm pounding away at. Hopefully this is the case - once the RN is finished in the bay of bengal for good, I can begin a few little amphib ops I have planned in the area without having to keep 4 bb and my little cvs in the area to defend them. Things in the PI and Malaya are proceeding fine. I don't want to race ahead of my own timetable, and then get bogged down because I moved too early. Within a month reinforcements from China will arrive to finish those two theatres off - I already have all the oil and resources I need - Singapore has a few resources, a little oil and some HI that I want, but that isn't going anywhere yet. A tip for jap players: the allies are impatient. If you do NOThING you'll find they're dumb enough to come and find you, rather than wait for 43. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/15/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 105,67 Japanese Ships SS I-24, hits 5, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Monaghan DD Alwin DD Allen DD Litchfield DD Chew DD Schley DD Ward -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 41st PA Division, at 43,51 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 98 Ki-48 Lily x 26 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged Ki-48 Lily: 2 damaged Allied ground losses: 107 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Aircraft Attacking: 18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet 11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet 17 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet 6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 17,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 19 B5N Kate x 44 E13A1 Jake x 19 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 8 destroyed, 18 damaged Allied Ships BB Revenge, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage CLAA Ceres CL Enterprise CL Glasgow, Torpedo hits 1 CLAA Columbo Aircraft Attacking: 9 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet 1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 17,33 Japanese aircraft E13A1 Jake x 8 no losses Aircraft Attacking: 8 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 17,33 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 B5N Kate x 21 E13A1 Jake x 26 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 6 destroyed, 12 damaged E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships CL Glasgow CA Exeter CLAA Columbo, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CLAA Ceres, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Enterprise, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 8 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet 2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 7 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet 1 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Lanchow Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 260589 troops, 2542 guns, 141 vehicles Defending force 59831 troops, 173 guns, 0 vehicles Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Lanchow base !!! Japanese ground losses: 1834 casualties reported Guns lost 43 Allied ground losses: 1866 casualties reported Guns lost 35 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 30,34 Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 7017 troops, 81 guns, 0 vehicles Defending force 1136 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles Japanese assault odds: 276 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 4 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 10 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Mr.Frag -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/27/2004 5:26:26 PM)
quote: A tip for jap players: the allies are impatient. If you do NOThING you'll find they're dumb enough to come and find you, rather than wait for 43. [:D] Nothing changes eh? Same problem in UV with the Allied players unable to control themselves long enough to have a tactical advantage and throwing stuff away for nothing. [;)]

52nd Lowland -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/27/2004 6:25:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Luskan Allied Ships BB Revenge, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage CLAA Ceres CL Enterprise CL Glasgow, Torpedo hits 1 CLAA Columbo Aircraft Attacking: 9 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet 1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stop trying to kill my hometowns warship,shes meant to survive and go on to play a part in Operation Overlord [:)]

Raverdave -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/28/2004 4:40:48 AM)
Yeah Luskan! leave my Ships alone ![:'(]

pad152 -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/28/2004 6:42:28 AM)
Looks like CLAA's aren't the plane killers they were in UV.

kaleun -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/28/2004 7:06:30 AM)
I see Luskan's tactic. He plans on having the hunter killer group expend all it's depth charges on his submarines.[&o]

Luskan -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/28/2004 9:00:17 AM)
Well, if only my subs were acutally shooting ack, that tactic might work. No, Raver is just going to sit there until he has every sub in the pearl area sunk. This is the first thing being asked for in the first patch. More controlled USN ASW. However, my hope remains that if I get off a few shots I'll have justified it. China is looking oh so much better now, with troops flooding off transports into garrison roles, and my divisions all on their way to their new positions to crush Raver's Chinese once and for all. There will ahve to be a few weeks off for my assault troops however, Iw asn't counting on Lanchow being that hard to take. In other news, my ever victorious troops have reached singapore, and are poised to make their attack. However I think I'll settle in for some big bombardments to try and increase Raver's disruption (and lower my own and my fatigue, a lot of those troops marched a long way!). With the aussies there, this fight might drag on for a while. With my troops halfway to clark I've ordered a halt to rest, refit and regain some "edge" before assaulting the PI fortress. In other news my cvls and cves added the CLAA Ceres to the sunk ship list. That is 1 cvl, 1 bb, 2 claa and a scratch on a CL for this sortie - and for the amount of force I've used, you've got to be happy with the results (cost me about 19 kates all up). My troops are massing at Moulmein and Rangoon - although those in the jungle will stay there for the moment as I hope to put enough presuure on the coastline that Raver has to drag some of those burmese rifle units over to hold places like Akyab, so my jungle units have an easier advance. A little while off yet however.

Ron Saueracker -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/28/2004 9:59:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kaleun I see Luskan's tactic. He plans on having the hunter killer group expend all it's depth charges on his submarines.[&o] Don't worry about DC ammo. I screwed up on the ammo, actually assuming "patterns were dropped", and worked this into the ammo for each ship and their wartime ammo increases. As it turns out, the results we are seeing are for "individual depth charges", and if you don't SEE the charges being dropped in the combat screen, ammo is not being expended. Basically, with this and the ability to rearm at a fish bait store, ASW ships never run out of ammo. Hopefully, this will be ammended in the patch. That and their wire guided munitions.[:)]

MadDawg -> RE: Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight (6/28/2004 10:26:48 AM)
Hehe, ooops, indeed....wouldnt it be best to treat them like reloading of torps at those destroyer tenders? Hopefully one for an early patch [:)] Dawg

Ron Saueracker -> RE: Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight (6/28/2004 10:35:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadDawg Hehe, ooops, indeed....wouldnt it be best to treat them like reloading of torps at those destroyer tenders? Hopefully one for an early patch [:)] Dawg I'm being a real pain in the butt about it, so hopefully it gets addressed. Also, hopefully they know I'm just a big teddy bear with serious social issues![;)]

Raverdave -> RE: Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight (6/28/2004 1:00:32 PM)
HMS Glasgow still floats! In fact she is not as bad as the combat report showed.....the torp hit was not as bad as first thought and she is now steaming to get clear of the CVs. Singapore is not going to be a walk over, Luskan's bubbling has allowed my troops to draw a breath and they are now well prepared to fight to the death. The same can be said of those galant heros at Clark. bayonets are fixed and grim hard looks have been drawn. To battle ! To Battle ! [image]local://upfiles/5619/Lj233378583.jpg[/image]

52nd Lowland -> RE: Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight (6/28/2004 2:03:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raverdave HMS Glasgow still floats! In fact she is not as bad as the combat report showed.....the torp hit was not as bad as first thought and she is now steaming to get clear of the CVs. Singapore is not going to be a walk over, Luskan's bubbling has allowed my troops to draw a breath and they are now well prepared to fight to the death. The same can be said of those galant heros at Clark. bayonets are fixed and grim hard looks have been drawn. To battle ! To Battle ! Thats what i like to hear..come on the Allies[:)]

Raverdave -> Luskan stuffs up ! (6/28/2004 3:15:36 PM)
Well Luskan stuffed up not once but twice! First he forgot to tell his troops, whom are now starting the attack on Singapore, to fire and so I got s free hit with my arty killing 92 of the banananana boys. Second stuff up, he decided to have a crack at Trincomalee and got slapped by my coastal defence units, which cost him some DDs and I am sure I landed some hits on his BBs as well. But as you can see from the screenie I have lost sight of where all of his ships are..........not only that, I didn't even see the bloody things heading in![X(] I have a major problem in the form of not having enough naval air search units....long range ones ! Now I have some on the West coast of the US and a LOT at PH but fat lot of good they are going to do me there. I will now have to look at staging some of the PBYs over to the Far East which is going to take at least 3 to 4 hops or load them onto a AK which will take at least 3 weeks (I'd have to sail under Australia to avoid the the bases that Luskan has setup in Burma/DEI. Here is the Combat report[:D] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/17/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Trimcomalee, at 15,25 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Allied aircraft Allied aircraft losses no losses 106 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships BB Mutsu DD Yukaze, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage DD Maikaze, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage DD Nowaki, Shell hits 15, on fire, heavy damage DD Yakaze, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage CL Isuzu CL Jintsu CL Kashii CA Mikuma, Shell hits 5, on fire CA Takao BB Nagato BB Haruna Allied Ships PG Hollyhock, Shell hits 1, on fire PG Nigella, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage MSW Bendigo, Shell hits 1, on fire MSW Cromarty, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage TK Empire Onyx, Shell hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 141 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Vehicles lost 2 Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 9 Runway hits 25 Port hits 2 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Trimcomalee, at 15,25 Allied aircraft Allied aircraft losses Hurricane II: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged Japanese Ships CA Kumano CA Suzuya BB Kongo DD Sanae DD Wakatake DD Kuretake CL Yura CL Kinu CL Kitakami BB Hyuga Allied Ships AK Empire Hope, Shell hits 1 TK Empire Onyx, Shell hits 3, on fire MSW Goulburn, Shell hits 2 AK Empire Bunting, Shell hits 1 PG Hollyhock, Shell hits 1, on fire MSW Maryborough, Shell hits 2, on fire PG Nigella, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 72 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 22 Port hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 5th Division, at 23,50 Allied aircraft Wirraway x 7 Allied aircraft losses Wirraway: 3 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 7 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 21st PA Division, at 43,51 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 19 Ki-48 Lily x 15 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged Ki-48 Lily: 3 damaged Allied ground losses: 93 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet 6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 91st PA Division, at 43,51 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 Ki-21 Sally x 80 Ki-48 Lily x 17 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 8 damaged Ki-48 Lily: 4 damaged Allied ground losses: 188 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Aircraft Attacking: 13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 17 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet 7 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet 10 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet 12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 37,60 Japanese Ships TK Sanraku Maru MSW Toshi Maru #1 MSW Kyo Maru #1 Allied Ships SS Sturgeon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Singapore Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 46077 troops, 531 guns, 8 vehicles Defending force 150145 troops, 1532 guns, 379 vehicles Japanese ground losses: 92 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 2 casualties reported Guns lost 2 [image]local://upfiles/5619/Wt589266950.jpg[/image]

Luskan -> RE: Luskan stuffs up ! (6/28/2004 3:59:24 PM)
Another interesting turn this turn. Raver thinks I forgot to attack singapore. He really doesn't seem to understand the way land combat units work. I don't have a plethora of support or supplies or troops at singapore - so I need every advantage I can get. Just a few days rest makes the difference between disruption of 80 and fatigue of 70, to disruption of 20 and fatigue of 30, which is 50 times more effective. My troops are going to take it easy for a few days while Raver attacks and wears his little self out, and then I'm going to start reducing that fort. Same deal at Clark - I need to get my troops close to clark - and then stop marching long enough for them to regain their edge. In china things are settling back to a sensible level with a nice big fat pair of armies at Sian and at Lanchow.

Raverdave -> RE: Luskan stuffs up ! (6/28/2004 4:16:07 PM)
Bananaananananannana boys is living in dream land if he thinks that he has ANY hope of taking any more cities in China. At one base I have enough troops that I have almost 6000 attack points ! I am more than happy to wait for him to come to me. Time is on my side in China. The other thing I didn't talk about in my last post is the shock at finding not 3 but 5 BBs in the bay of bengal. I was carefully watching and had only seen (or been informed) of 3, so seening 5 BBs roll up on my doorstep came as something as a shock to say the least ! Once again it just shows that I really really need to somehow get a LOT of long range search aircraft into that area.

bradfordkay -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/28/2004 7:46:11 PM)
quote: Looks like CLAA's aren't the plane killers they were in UV. These are British CLAAs in the early pacific war era. They are not nearly as effective as the US San Diego class CLAAs, which were heavily loaded with Bofors and Oelrikons after Coral Sea.

Luskan -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/29/2004 5:34:47 AM)
Well my initial probe of the defences at singapore was not so promising. 70000 troops stand against my 150000, behind a level 7 fort. I lost 2000 men in that probe, although Raver lost 1200, it seems that Lanchow is going to repeat itself all over again. I have no doubt that the same awaits me in the PI. However I have a few large engineer and arty units that I will devote to one Campaign, and then a second. Also, I've now got a surplus of two divisions that I can use (political points I can use to steal divisions from elsewhere), not to mention a surplus of force aronud the map that I can try to condense. The problem will be that I don't want to recall large combat brigades from kendari, Rabaul etc. I want to keep them there so that they can strike in the first instant I am ready to use them. Hopefully starvation wll start affecting the defenders at both locations (especially singapore, has70000 troops existing on next to nothing). Maybe Raver will be nice enough to post a estimate of how long it will take theuspplies to run out?

Raverdave -> RE: oi! bad day to be a merchant.....either side!!!!! (6/29/2004 5:38:03 AM)
Sinapore can last at least until early March.......Clark is another issue alrady the troops are on half rations[:(]

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