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Originally posted by tracer:
And there's also the suicide infantry AT unit.

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Originally posted by Toundra:
Mine throw their demolition charge and then
RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN AWAY =)

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Originally posted by Christopher:

What unit/s are you referring to, exactly?

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Originally posted by Christopher:

lol
Well, I prefer to use anti-tank rifles and bazookas. One better keeps one's distance, or however the saying goes. Unless there is forest, of course.

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Originally posted by Toundra:
They were only effective against naval units, and big targets only.
If you must die for a cause try to sink a carrier and not a Barge.

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Originally posted by Toundra:
this is why they are suicide squads hehe

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Originally posted by no_time_2_play:
Germans used the FW-190 - He-111 combo against non-naval targets. Even if that combo isn't technically a 'kamikaze', I'm sure flying those things would be pretty close coz the fighter really set on top of a big bomb.

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Originally posted by Christopher:

Tell my pioneers! They'd refuse to fight for me, immediately!

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Originally posted by Toundra:
hmm FW-190 - He-111 Really? how? =)

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Originally posted by Toundra:

Bah you are a real evil German JK

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Originally posted by no_time_2_play:
bad url fixed

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Originally posted by AbsntMndedProf:
Toundra posted:
As I understand it, the FW sat on top of the HE-111, which was packed full of explosives. The pilot of the FW would 'fly' the combination craft until he got in range of his target, then he would release his HE-111 payload and guide it by remote control into the target.

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Originally posted by kgvm:
Some more informations about the Mistel:
as far as I know they were used only in the attempts to destroy the Soviet Oder-bridges in the last days of WWII(they were seen as very valuable targets, some German pilots made suicide attacks there, too). This way you could bring a far bigger payload of explosives against your target. Furthermore it requires only the amount of fuel for one way of the bomber, and aircraft fuel was very scarce in the last days of WWII in Germany, but there were many planes who were grounded only by lack of fuel!

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Well, looked at home and found out that the Mistel was first used against the Mulberry harbours in Normandy, but not very successfully.

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Originally posted by Charles_22:
kgvm: Thanks for the response. When you think of how that book I mentioned was wrote, that it was found in a German lab somewhere, it almost confuses me all the more. Saying the advancing Americans found it in such a place would tend to indicate that the Germans had not used it yet (but it would certainly shatter the myth that the US was the only one that had it), since you would figure the US would've examined most German airplanes and concluded what they believed all along that the Germans didn't have it. But, then again, one is supposing that the ones that found that bombsight in that one place were privy to knowing what was on all German aircraft, when that is actually very unlikely. In order to believe that it being found remotely would indicate it's not being used in the German air arm, one would also have to believe what the US said that they were the only ones that had it. If the US would've gone overboard to make themselves as the only ones that had it and possibly cover up any German use that had been made, why would they suddenly let or not let that information out at that point? Another question strikes me too. If the Germans had it (particularly in some of their planes), then why didn't they expose the myth that the US was the only one that possessed it (and there might be reasons not to let the US know that you had one or many)? Also, did the Germans realize that the Norden bombsight was made such a big deal out of, in America? And if the Germans wanted to shatter that belief, be it that they were using them or just had one intact, would common Americans ever hear about it? I can understand not informing the public if you knew the Germans had one intact, in fact I'm sure they expected it would happen sooner or later, but what if the Germans were using them, particularly if extensively, is it wise then to try and act as though you're the only one that has it still? It seems the fact that it was so esteemed they wouldn't even let the British have them, but just because they weren't keen on giving that bombsight to their Allies, says nothing for it possibly being captured by the Germans, no matter how much emphasis crews were trained to destroy the thing when going down or landing in enemy territory. If the blueprints were available to Germany in the time you indicated, that would probably mean that if it was placed on planes, it might've been restricted to AR234s, HE177s, ME262bs etc. Of course the bombsights might've been able to be changed on more planes that that, but if the Germans captured it then, wouold they have been thinking at that time how great it was? I could see it just lying around in a lab somewhere for a long time, because until the US went to strategically bombing Germany, what would tell the Germans that it was necessarily such a great thing? Would they even bother to build one and test it? Would they be politically motivated to claim it as inferior to their own and then ignore it?

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