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PzB74 -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/21/2007 2:51:37 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/06/45 Sub/ASW Attacks Sub attack at 64,50 Japanese Ships AK Macassar Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Aspro -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Marcus Island at 75,56 Japanese Ships SS RO-47, hits 2 Allied Ships CVL Cowpens <- lucky escape! DD Drayton DD Wilson DD Henley DD Stockton [image]local://upfiles/1466/A63ADB5A07C041E4B57CF87C8ECA7FE1.jpg[/image] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Andy is stepping up bombing missions in Burma! Day Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 20 B-25J Mitchell x 5 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Bangkok , at 29,40 Allied aircraft B-25J Mitchell x 27 No Allied losses Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 11 SB2C Helldiver x 19 Liberator VI x 9 Beaufighter VIC x 3 Mosquito FB.VI x 12 P-40N Warhawk x 6 B-29 Superfortress x 65 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged B-29 Superfortress: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 71 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 177 Port fuel hits 1 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 30 B-29 Superfortress x 60 Japanese aircraft losses P1Y Frances: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 42 casualties reported Airbase hits 18 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 207 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Menado , at 39,67 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 10 Kittyhawk III x 3 P-40N Warhawk x 3 P-38J Lightning x 14 A-26B Invader x 9 PB4Y Liberator x 10 B-29 Superfortress x 25 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 19 casualties reported Airbase hits 9 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A variety of supply ships took a beating of Bonin: Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 36 F6F Hellcat x 7 TBM Avenger x 18 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Ehime Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Miho Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Heimei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our seaplane tender raider north of Wake is doing some armed recon! Day Air attack on TF at 84,62 Japanese aircraft E13A1 Jake x 5 Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 2 damaged Allied Ships DE Charles J. Kimmel LST LST-770 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 21 F6F Hellcat x 6 F4U-1 Corsair x 16 F4U-1D Corsair x 19 TBM Avenger x 2 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Mie Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 5 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Teikin Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Chikuzan Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Miho Maru, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at Iwo Jima Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 6935 troops, 171 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1200 Defending force 104377 troops, 724 guns, 505 vehicles, Assault Value = 1624 Japanese ground losses: 72 casualties reported ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PzB74 -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/21/2007 3:20:40 PM)
Not going to be boring.... [image]local://upfiles/1466/8D6C61A1B11E4AEE998DEB4643282A48.jpg[/image]

pauk -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/21/2007 8:50:37 PM)
not trying to dispute with your warfare genius[;)] but do you really think that weakening PI is smart thing? How do you think to send arm div and inf units to Burma - unless you thought ship them to Thailand (or Vietnam)?... that would be logical.... Defending Burma has some benefits - Andy can't transport air support to China while you control it... but sooner or latter you will loose your training ground and it is better to keep your strength in your Inner circle IMO.... As far as i know there is no need to train your future Shindens to 70-80 level - 50-60 will do the job (you can disband other groups to airgroups which upgrade to Shinden and have twice more pilots - that would be enough for Mustangs, Corsairs, Spits and co[;)])

PzB74 -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/21/2007 8:51:03 PM)
I've been thinking about what kind of response we should give Andy's offensive in Burma and the Bonins. If he's prosecuting a double offensive I'm pretty sure we don't have to worry about him invading anywere else [;)] Burma As I've stated, Army Reserves will attempt to delay and halt the enemys advance south of Rangoon and Bangkok. The Air Force will provide support, mostly hit and run missions. An enemy advance in this area so late in the war is to be expected and will not be crucial for the survival of the Empire. Andy's plan is obviously to capture bases from were he can shut down our training camps in China. We have plans to counter this as well [:)] Bonins This is by far the most dangerous offensive, all resources will be used to prevent the enemy's capture of the Bonins. Having reinforced the islands heavily with men and supplies I will await Andy's next move before committing further reserves. A question: Does A6M5 Zekes that upgrade to the A6M8 Zeke usually also upgrade to the A7M Reppu? Very few of my current Daitai's show an upgrade path to the Reppu. Logically all A6M series ac should be upgradable to the A7M!

Nikademus -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/21/2007 8:52:59 PM)
if pdu is on...yes, you can upgrade either to A6M8 or Reppu

pauk -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/21/2007 8:57:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB I've been thinking about what kind of response we should give Andy's offensive in Burma and the Bonins. If he's prosecuting a double offensive I'm pretty sure we don't have to worry about him invading anywere else [;)] Burma As I've stated, Army Reserves will attempt to delay and halt the enemys advance south of Rangoon and Bangkok. The Air Force will provide support, mostly hit and run missions. An enemy advance in this area so late in the war is to be expected and will not be crucial for the survival of the Empire. Andy's plan is obviously to capture bases from were he can shut down our training camps in China. We have plans to counter this as well [:)] Bonins This is by far the most dangerous offensive, all resources will be used to prevent the enemy's capture of the Bonins. Having reinforced the islands heavily with men and supplies I will await Andy's next move before committing further reserves. Ah, great minds think in the same way (see my post above)[;)][:D] as for research - if you have enough supply you can expand rd for shinden - 119 rd points for them looks like you will get this "solid" [:D] ac accelerated by one month...if....

PzB74 -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/21/2007 8:58:25 PM)
The PI's is serving as theater reserve and Manila alone holds some 1500 AP with another 1500 AP in Luzon. Sending out 1000 AP should be ok. I'm in the process of withdrawin a large 99 exp division from the south to replace them. Think I have to be strong were I choose to fight Andy. The plan is to ship the troops to Camhranh Bay from Manila! If Andy invades the PI's we will respond by moving in troops from Formosa while replacing these with troops drawn out from other secondary theatres. It's possible to move our training camps to north eastern China and Manchuko if need be. By the time this happends we should be in May 45 already. Want to have 600 George and Jacks ready for conversion to the Shinden as soon as possible, hopefully by June/July 45!

PzB74 -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/21/2007 9:14:26 PM)
We're not on PDU...that's why I'm uncertain about the value of researching the A7M! Hoping to get the Shinden accelerated 2 months, June 45 would be nice [:)][:)][&o] I'm expanding Betty bomber production as well as Shinden research. Not sure which ac I should halt production. I need my Army bombers, fighters as well as navy fighters and bombers. Night figthers is a useless drain, stopped most of them. Transports are needed and patrol and search planes are shot down in droves no matter how high and fast they fly [:(] Producing 120 Dinah IIIs pr month and it can't even replace losses. Horrible! Maybe it's time to close down the Oscar II plant? Only annoying thing is that this will ground 20 Army Sentais [:(] Of the other Army fighters I want to keep: Tony 100 and Frank. Naval fighters: Zeke, Jack, George. Halted production of the latter as we have 950 in the pools. Even with 600 Zekes coming of the production line pr month I'm struggling to replace losses. All but out of Tony's and some 150 Jacks left. Not sure how much I need the fighter bombers; the A6M5 Zeke C and Randy. Will receive 6-7 Daitais of the FB Zeke soon, not sure what will happen as I don't have many Zeke Cs in the pool. As a curiosity: 1 one A7M Reppu production ac came of the production lines before the end of the war [;)] Production: A total of 10 A7Ms were built by Mitsubishi Jukogyo K.K. at Nagoya as follows: 2 A7M1 prototypes 7 A7M2 prototypes and Service trials aircraft 1 A7M2 production aircraft [image]local://upfiles/1466/673CB6416F3F4E64B4FBA26E8F05FB60.jpg[/image] Since the Home Islands are not exposed to bombing I think it would have been possible to start production of the Reppu in June 45 and the Shinden by 7-8 45. Same with other models. Unfortunate that the Bearcat isn't included in the game either. Anyone seen it in a mod? Guess not many have played the game into late 45!?

PzB74 -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/22/2007 12:06:15 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/07/45 Air Combat A small sweep over the enemy army marching into Burma. No CAP... Day Air attack on AUS 1st Army, at 26,40 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 9 No Japanese losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A small CAP over Palembang shot down a nice bounty of arial invaders: Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55 Japanese aircraft Ki-84-Ic Frank x 13 Allied aircraft Kittyhawk III x 6 Liberator VI x 10 Beaufighter VIC x 7 Mosquito FB.VI x 3 P-40N Warhawk x 3 B-29 Superfortress x 51 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-84-Ic Frank: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged Allied aircraft losses Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Liberator VI: 2 damaged Beaufighter VIC: 3 destroyed B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged Japanese ground losses: 28 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 64 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Todays Mustang sweep suddenly found Bonin crawling with Jap fighters!! Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 15 N1K1-J George x 39 J2M Jack x 27 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 24 Allied aircraft P-51D Mustang x 26 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed N1K1-J George: 10 destroyed J2M Jack: 10 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-51D Mustang: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But Iwo is deserted... Day Air attack on Iwo Jima , at 63,53 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 7 F4U-1D Corsair x 29 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Iwo Jima , at 63,53 Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 107 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 122 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Airbase hits 2 <- Andy is hitting my port and supplies. No use, 25k more supplies currently unloading Runway hits 20 Port hits 2 Port fuel hits 6 Port supply hits 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our ground attack ac met a heavy CAP! I ordered them in at low altitude to inflict some casualties: Day Air attack on 3rd Australian Brigade, at 26,40 Japanese aircraft Ki-30 Ann x 19 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-30 Ann: 4 destroyed, 11 damaged Allied ground losses: 28 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 3rd Australian Brigade, at 26,40 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 6 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67 Peggy: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 23rd Australian Brigade, at 26,40 Japanese aircraft Ki-49 Helen x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied ground losses: 38 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 8th Australian Tank Regiment, at 26,40 <- Dang, looks like the Banana benders are on the move!! Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 9 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67 Peggy: 5 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 9th Australian Division, at 26,40 Japanese aircraft Ki-49 Helen x 14 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-49 Helen: 14 damaged Allied ground losses: 58 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 24th USA/C Division, at 26,40 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 9 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67 Peggy: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied ground losses: 26 casualties reported Guns lost 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 24th USA/C Division, at 26,40 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 9 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67 Peggy: 5 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The enemy attack in shipping was mauled by our CAP! Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 13 N1K1-J George x 29 J2M Jack x 17 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 16 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 28 F6F Hellcat x 7 TBM Avenger x 13 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed N1K1-J George: 5 destroyed J2M Jack: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 19 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships AP Tazan Maru, heavy damage AP Shinyu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Sampit at 26,62 Japanese aircraft B6N Jill x 10 Japanese aircraft losses B6N Jill: 10 destroyed Allied Ships LCT LCT-153, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage [:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 9 N1K1-J George x 27 J2M Jack x 9 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 9 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 28 F4U-1 Corsair x 7 F4U-1D Corsair x 18 TBM Avenger x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed N1K1-J George: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged J2M Jack: 2 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 7 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 13 destroyed, 2 damaged F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships MSW Rokko Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEI: Day Air attack on TF at 24,61 Japanese aircraft B6N Jill x 2 Japanese aircraft losses B6N Jill: 2 destroyed Allied Ships AK Ferdinand A. Silcox, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 12 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at Iwo Jima Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 6835 troops, 169 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1204 Defending force 104467 troops, 721 guns, 506 vehicles, Assault Value = 1623 Japanese ground losses: 46 casualties reported ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Air Losses Quite acceptable kill ratios today! [:)] [image]local://upfiles/1466/B660EC6172004640A51ECE584BA124E3.jpg[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/22/2007 12:40:39 AM)
I have launched 2 new cunning plans! Since we're running out of names for our cunning plans they're simply called: Cunning Plan # 1 and 2 [:D] Cunning Plan # 1 The risks: )Huge losses to enemy CAP. This should be negated by Andy's need to operate large number of bombers and sweep ac from Marcus Island. ) Bad weather and uncoordinated strike. The most annoying cause of failure to our cunning plans.... ) We could loose the bulk of our long range naval strike ac. The Benefits: ) Andy will be forced to put more fighters on CAP and fewer on sweep missions against the Bonins *) Lots of damaged ships in a small port that can be finished. Betty's at 15k feet will be dropping HUGE boom booms [:)] Stay tuned for Cunnin Plan # 2 [8D] [image]local://upfiles/1466/2EF9D1DD73CA41B9802D25F0A6F7B32E.jpg[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/22/2007 12:45:46 AM)
Cunning Plan # 2 The Taiho Raider Group will attempt to intercept enemy convoys between Marcus and Wake Islands. The risk is that Andy got carriers in the area or have put his bombers on Wake on naval attack = RIP! The benefits is a lot of easy kills and forcing Andy to protect his convoys, diverting resources from other operations. We have performed reasonable pre-operational recon from our seaplane tender and seaplane sub. No enemy carriers should be around as they're heading for the Bonins. The rest have gone to PH; I think! [;)] [image]local://upfiles/1466/91F09CEC342F4FB0A42D4BEFB551FEB0.jpg[/image]

Honda -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/22/2007 1:03:36 AM)
I like cunning plan #1[:)]

PzB74 -> Cunning Plans are here again! (2/22/2007 1:29:10 AM)
Cunning Plan # 2 was most cunning [:D] Some 20 enemy ships were hit by our air strikes today! [:D] We lost 100 naval bombers to 29 enemy CAP fighters over Marcus [:o] In return we put a torpedo in a cve... That's the price we usually have to pay for such insolence [;)] Andy can no longer feel safe in Marcus Island without having a sizeable CAP and his supply train is at risk without carrier support. Sending un-escorted transports is expensive all over the map! After telling Andy about how I was planning to reduce my training of air units in China he sent the following reply: "I am not bothered now you train em I will shoot em down or more likely fry them on the ground !!!" Not very grateful at all, so I'm filling my training camps up with fresh recruits again! [sm=dizzy.gif] Not sent more than the replay to Andy, need some time to prepare the next turn. Now bedtime! AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/08/45 Air Combat Day Air attack on Tavoy , at 28,37 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29 Superfortress x 27 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67 Peggy: 1 destroyed Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 8 casualties reported Airbase hits 15 Airbase supply hits 6 Runway hits 38 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 29 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amazing how 10 Hellcats can attacks 137 of our fighters and shoot down 9 for the loss of 8... Day Air attack on Bonin , at 65,52 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 31 N1K1-J George x 30 J2M Jack x 58 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 11 Allied aircraft F6F-5N Hellcat x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed J2M Jack: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-5N Hellcat: 8 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why I need training camps # 1 Day Air attack on Iwo Jima , at 63,53 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 14 J2M Jack x 52 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 20 F6F Hellcat x 5 F4U-1 Corsair x 14 F4U-1D Corsair x 27 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 12 destroyed J2M Jack: 47 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why I need training camps # 2 Day Air attack on Iwo Jima , at 63,53 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 7 N1K1-J George x 8 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 18 F6F Hellcat x 11 F4U-1D Corsair x 34 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed N1K1-J George: 25 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Iwo Jima , at 63,53 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 3 Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 127 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed A6M5c Zeke: 3 destroyed J2M Jack: 12 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 9 damaged Japanese ground losses: 163 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 21 Airbase supply hits 7 Runway hits 80 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cunning Plan # 1 Why I need training camps # 3, 4, 5 and 6 Our first cunning plan worked to an extent: The Allied Uber CAP of 29 fighters shot down 100 bombers.... [8\|] It's insane, but we know this. Our only result was to torch an CVE! Even though all my bombers were ordered in from 15k feet, quite a few betties launched torpedoes!?? Day Air attack on Marcus Island , at 75,56 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 46 G4M2e Betty x 19 P1Y Frances x 9 H8K Emily x 4 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 6 P-51D Mustang x 23 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 32 destroyed G4M2e Betty: 12 destroyed P1Y Frances: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 5 damaged P-51D Mustang: 16 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 1 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet 1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing <- So these Betties can only be used to Ohka bombing - which doesn't work... 2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet 2 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing 2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet 2 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet 3 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing 1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why I need training camps # xxx Day Air attack on Marcus Island , at 75,56 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 91 P1Y Frances x 52 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 3 P-51D Mustang x 11 Japanese aircraft losses [8\|] G4M2 Betty: 28 destroyed, 35 damaged P1Y Frances: 22 destroyed, 8 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged Allied Ships CVE Prince William, Torpedo hits 1, on fire [:)] Port hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet 8 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 7 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 10 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet 12 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 14 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 15000 feet 8 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet 7 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet 4 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet 2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet 1 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet 1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cunning Plan # 2 Day Air attack on 1st Australian Brigade, at 27,40 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 9 No Japanese losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 1st Australian Brigade, at 27,40 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 3 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 13 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 1st Australian Brigade, at 27,40 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 46 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 13 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 3 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 2 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Tamishima Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 3 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 4 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Ryuzan Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We had a FIELD DAY against enemy shipping today and Cunning Plan # 2 worked splendidly! [8D] Some 76 strike ac attacked enemy shipping today! AM strikes: Day Air attack on TF at 78,59 Japanese aircraft B7A Grace x 17 Japanese aircraft losses B7A Grace: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged Allied Ships LST LST-393, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage LST LST-778, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage LST LST-272, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DMS Forrest, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage sinks LST LST-885, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 78,59 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 3 D4Y Judy x 17 B7A Grace x 18 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y Judy: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged B7A Grace: 5 damaged Allied Ships LST LST-748 LST LST-277 LST LST-456 LST LST-745 LST LST-885, on fire, heavy damage LST LST-744 LST LST-737, Bomb hits 1, on fire LST LST-353, Bomb hits 2, on fire LST LST-458 LST LST-749, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 81,60 Japanese aircraft E13A1 Jake x 3 Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 2 damaged Allied Ships TK Bahrein -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PM strike: Day Air attack on TF at 81,60 Japanese aircraft D4Y Judy x 8 B7A Grace x 16 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y Judy: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged B7A Grace: 7 damaged Allied Ships AK Kansan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Empire Eagle, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Elihu Thomson LCI(R) LCS(L)-86 AK Caswell, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Oberon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 81,62 Japanese aircraft E13A1 Jake x 5 Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships TK Shikellamy TK Panda -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Todays cunning plan bonus: An undefended convoy east of Java is devastated!! [8D] Day Air attack on TF at 24,58 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 16 P1Y Frances x 5 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 23 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged P1Y Frances: 2 damaged Allied Ships AK Edwin C. Musick, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Jacob S. Mansfield AK James H. Lane AK Tuscana, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK James Devereux AK I. N. Van Nuys, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK James M. Clements, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 126 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These kamis were effective to say the least!! Day Air attack on TF at 24,58 Japanese aircraft Ki-67 Peggy x 17 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67 Peggy: 17 destroyed Allied Ships AK James J.O. Kelly, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Cornelius Vanderbilt, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire AK Floyd B. Olson, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Jeremiah M. Daily, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 103 casualties reported Guns lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 24,58 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 11 P1Y Frances x 2 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 28 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 11 damaged P1Y Frances: 2 damaged Allied Ships AK Auriga AK Jacob S. Mansfield, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage TK William H. Berg AK Edwin C. Musick, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 61 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Bonin at 65,52 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 21 N1K1-J George x 3 J2M Jack x 40 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 10 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 8 Allied aircraft SB2C Helldiver x 14 Japanese aircraft losses J2M Jack: 1 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 8 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ca 5-6 Oz/US divisions and 5-6 tank units and div brigade size units are marching north! More are assumed to be following suit. Ground combat at 27,40 Allied Shock attack Attacking force 7704 troops, 171 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 2724 Defending force 168 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5 Allied max assault: 160 - adjusted assault: 38 Japanese max defense: 4 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 38 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 15 casualties reported Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Iwo Jima Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 6835 troops, 169 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1218 Defending force 104076 troops, 722 guns, 507 vehicles, Assault Value = 1624 Japanese ground losses: 78 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The least cunning plan... [image]local://upfiles/1466/AACEDD2BDCA741E9B8FC8E8D9245FA32.jpg[/image]

Nemo121 -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/22/2007 1:38:10 AM)
Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes... It sounds solid and a few 800 Kg bombs through the decks of damaged carriers would be a tremendous boost.

Japanese_Spirit -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/22/2007 6:00:15 AM)
This would indeed be a good morale blow to the Allied Command and show them that their arrogance has cost them. [:D] Say, how does this "training" in China thing work? Do you just bomb Andy's bases or does he retaliate with fighters or do you forces really do "actual" training? Anyway, let us see what the next results reveal.......>.>

PzB74 -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/22/2007 5:47:43 PM)
'Training' is simply attacking Chinese air bases with my bombers and fighters. Since the Chinese bases are isolated and defenseless this provides a rather limitless training potential. You can consider it gamey if you don't think Japan should receive this many trained pilots. Basically I would agree, but the current A2A model is so bloody that ac and pilot losses makes it impossible to fight the Allies without training more cannon fodder... [8\|] Much the same as with the kamikazes: they cannot penetrate the Allied CAP since it's 99% bullet proof. Just see how 30 US fighters could shoot down 100 of my bombers in yesterdays post. The only way to make kamikazes work is to assign high altitude Zeke's that can fly above the max altitude of most Allied carrier fighters. Both are results of the A2A model and requires counter-measures to make the game playable. I agree that moderation is needed and has therefore limited my use of high altitude kamikaze attacks. Also offered to reduce the amount of 'ground attack training'. We'll see how that story ends. Cause & Effect - as always [:)]

Japanese_Spirit -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/22/2007 7:10:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB 'Training' is simply attacking Chinese air bases with my bombers and fighters. Since the Chinese bases are isolated and defenseless this provides a rather limitless training potential. You can consider it gamey if you don't think Japan should receive this many trained pilots. Basically I would agree, but the current A2A model is so bloody that ac and pilot losses makes it impossible to fight the Allies without training more cannon fodder... [8\|] Much the same as with the kamikazes: they cannot penetrate the Allied CAP since it's 99% bullet proof. Just see how 30 US fighters could shoot down 100 of my bombers in yesterdays post. The only way to make kamikazes work is to assign high altitude Zeke's that can fly above the max altitude of most Allied carrier fighters. Both are results of the A2A model and requires counter-measures to make the game playable. I agree that moderation is needed and has therefore limited my use of high altitude kamikaze attacks. Also offered to reduce the amount of 'ground attack training'. We'll see how that story ends. Cause & Effect - as always [:)] Ah I see now. Thanks for the explanation my good sir. [;)] Banzai on to victory! [:D]

Nikademus -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/22/2007 8:29:22 PM)
you GAMER you! [:'(]

fcam1387 -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/23/2007 1:54:04 AM)
How many carriers do you usually put in your convoy raiding groups? Do you do this often? I am playing as the Japs in the 1943 campaign and am looking at a way to launch some offensives of my own. Where would be a good place to intercept his convoys without the risk of being caught by surprise from a massive CV intercept group? Thanks

Vetamur -> RE: Tokyo Rose: Victories in the Bonins! (2/23/2007 5:44:15 AM)
He only puts one now..because he only has one...

Aterpa -> RE: Cunning Plans are here again! (2/23/2007 8:08:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB 1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing <- So these Betties can only be used to Ohka bombing - which doesn't work... Maybe your G4M2e don't hit anything because they don't carry any Ohka? As far as I remember Ohka production starts in January 1945 in Tokyo with only 9 per month. If Okha availabity is tracked by the game it could be the case that all but 9 G4M2e per month have nothing to shot with and therefore nothing to hit with!

Vetamur -> RE: Cunning Plans are here again! (2/23/2007 8:34:17 PM)
as suggested in another thread..the best use of the G4M2e in this game seems to be as naval search.. The Ohkas cant hit and the G4M2es dont do any real damage as a kamikaze for some reason.. Its a shame.. although the mother ship was almost always lost, the success rate of the Ohka wasnt that bad compared to other attacks being carried out at the time.. As for the production rate, it was higher than 9 a month..much higher. Between March and and the end of April 1945 at least 48 were launched or at least attached to Betties that got shot down. Thats 12 a month, and they hadnt used all they had. By the end of the war 150 had been built at Yokosuka and 600 had been built at Kasumigaura (neither of which is in Tokyo..).

Kereguelen -> RE: Cunning Plans are here again! (2/23/2007 8:50:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aterpa quote: ORIGINAL: PzB 1 x G4M2e Betty ohka bombing <- So these Betties can only be used to Ohka bombing - which doesn't work... Maybe your G4M2e don't hit anything because they don't carry any Ohka? As far as I remember Ohka production starts in January 1945 in Tokyo with only 9 per month. If Okha availabity is tracked by the game it could be the case that all but 9 G4M2e per month have nothing to shot with and therefore nothing to hit with! Good point! PzB, how many Ohkas are in your pool (are Ohkas in the pool at all)? Maybe you'll need to have a number of Ohkas available in the pool that match the number of G4M2e in air units on map (I think there're two Ohka units, one hikotai and one sentai, with 75 planes altogether). Thus, if you have less than 75 Ohkas available (and this should be the case if you did not expand the Ohka factory at Tokyo), code may assume that there're not enough Ohkas (as they're the only "ammunition" in the game that is actually produced in a real sense, this could make some sense as there would be no reason to have their production on-map otherwise). I know that there is only a faint hope that this is actually the reason for Ohkas not working. But we all know that the WITP code has some aspects that are not explained in the manual.

PzB74 -> RE: Cunning Plans are here again! (2/23/2007 9:15:49 PM)
Unfortunately there is no Ohka pool and no visual ohka factory! It seems like only a very few Ohkas will launch at a time, 1-2-3 at max. I've been speculating whether this reflects the availability of ohkas. Mute matter as those who launch never hit anything. I used supply training to train my G4M2e Betty's to ca 65 exp before testing them. Could be that Betty exp levels reflect ohka hit accuracy. 1/50 should still have managed to hit a target - but they don't. So absolutely no use to wait for them I'm afraid. I will use supply trainining and get 80-90 exp G4M2e and try them on easy targets. Last attempt to see if they CAN hit anything. Think the code needs to be re-written both in terms of hit probability, ohka factories and ohka missile production. [image]local://upfiles/1466/06DD2BA571E44194B9240DA8F8E07286.jpg[/image]

Honda -> RE: Cunning Plans are here again! (2/23/2007 11:43:38 PM)
Don't bother. Ohka is as broken as they come. I even tested them with a production of 9000 and still no hits, so lack of them is not an issue. My last ditch efforts to fix it are centerd around making Ohka a GP bomb instead of what it is (RPM or something) or removing it from its slot in the editor. Will have results in a couple of hours. The good news for you PzB is that even if it should work, you don't have to worry your head 'cause yours are still as broken as they were when you bombed PH in '41...[8\|]

PzB74 -> RE: Cunning Plans are here again! (2/24/2007 2:16:18 AM)
Giving us a useless Ohka bomber is criminal [:(] Same scale as the US torps in the beginning of the war.... Well, guess we have to fight on with what we got. Sent a turn late to Andy today. Loading the armoured division and support division at Manila. Will unload at Camhranh Bay in a week or so.

Nemo121 -> RE: Cunning Plans are here again! (2/24/2007 2:46:26 AM)
I conducted tests with the Ohka a while back. Essentially the Ohka weapons SLOT has hard code associated with it which ensures that ANY plane type equipped with that weapon slot will only fly about 10% of available sorties. So, if you put a 500 Kg bomb in the Ohka slot and equip Vals with it then out of 30 Vals which could fly a mission only 2 do. Same logic applies to the G4M2es. It is hard code and there's nothing you can do about it. So, given that the Ohka bomber is probably pretty useless as an attack bomber what CAN you use it for? Not for kamikaze attacks - the game is too stupid to realise that the bomber is carrying a devastating Ohka and so vastly under-rates the damage done. The best use for your Ohka bombers is to divide the unit into 3 groups and then set each of them on 100% naval search. If you do this you will get the occasional Ohka bomb launched as part of the naval search/ opportunistic attack model. You will get the occasional Ohka hit if you do this. Close to reality? No but it is, based on my testing, the best you are going to do - plus it will allow you to save the rest of your Bettys for actual strikes.

PzB74 -> RE: Cunning Plans are here again! (2/24/2007 3:03:19 AM)
What genious came up with the idea that only 10% of ac will fly sorties [&:] [:D] Think I'll convert all GM42e factories to the GM42 again. Got 110 in the pools and the last unit will arrive shortly. Does anyone know what's wrong with the accuracy settings for the Ohka since close to no living being has ever witnessed one hitting its target? This Ohka isn't a big deal, but the Jap player need it and it's a disappointment that it doesn't work. Special weapons may be difficult to program, but they attract a lot of attention and players to the game.

Nemo121 -> RE: Cunning Plans are here again! (2/24/2007 3:25:52 AM)
PzB, Accuracy of the Ohka is terrible. I had to fiddle around with an awful lot of settings to get a hit rate of 6% ( when level bombing with no FlAK opposition at 6000 feet) from the PGMs in my mod. To be fair though accuracy of PGMs increases approximately four-fold when attacking ported ships. It should be noted that these figures are well below what the Germans got with the SD-1400 and Hs-293 but still massively superior to what you can get with the Ohka. if you are adamant that you want to use the G4M2e for actual bombing raids you are several times more likely to get a hit if you use them for port attacks as, obviously, the ships are not manoeuvring while in port. FWIW in testing I found the accuracy of the Ohka to be slightly under 2% ( about twice the hit rate of dumb unguided bombs and about 1/3rd of the maximum I was able to achieve through graduated testing) when level bombing from 6000 feet. Overall though the Ohka is F'ed, its modelling is F'ed and it is a blind alley for Japanese players. I removed it from my mod because of its terrible performance. Hell, I even tried creating late-45 Japanese Coastal Defence units which mounted Ohkas instead of costal defence guns and removed them after testing because the CD guns were actually more effective.

PicketLine -> RE: Cunning Plans are here again! (2/24/2007 12:31:30 PM)
In the type field change the Okha to a torpedo, set its range to 40 K ( about 22.73 miles ) With accuracy of 40 and G4M2e group at Exp 60; if you test this against a carrier group at sea without any cap the Okha will hit with an accuracy of once every 10 sorties and it will act as a piloted missile from 22 miles away. This also has the benefit of eliminating all the variables but crew quality. The Okha will always launch from 22 miles. The G4M2e will not be affected by AAA and can only be stopped by cap.

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