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Fishbed -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 1:51:03 PM)
Yeah two thumbs up boss! [&o][:'(] Really no chances for the carrier force to evade? Maybe splitting it may give better chances...?

Sneer -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 1:53:12 PM)
if you think CV is doomed than leave it to finish convoy and make DDs run home no need to loose so many ships you can even detach your DDs - try to hit convoy in the night and later let them run home

Fishbed -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 1:55:48 PM)
About the SRA by the way, I think we all share the same opinion. These annoying spots have to get obliterated, but do you have the troop means to do so?

PzB74 -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 2:00:12 PM)
Appreciate the input Honda! If Andy decided to go all out for the SRA we will have to respond. The region is not lightly defended though: Java is a fortress and all important bases on Borneo got huge forts. Andy is using unescorted barges, escort carriers and FT TFs to get a toehold on Sulawesi. We respond in kind for now. While Andy is busy occupying and expanding bases, the spice will flow, he will be too busy fending of mosquito attacks to do much else [;)] In a short while huge LCU reinforcements will flow into the area. A full division arrived at Formosa today as well as 2 large brigades in Japan - one 100% prepped for Wake Island [:)] Until Andy reveals his plans I will continue with the current strategy and redeploy our forces in the region. Was thinking of splitting up Fish, the problem is that I don't know whether Andy will sortie carriers from PH or the West Coast - perhaps both!? Our TF performed refuelling last night and max speed was 2/2. So let's see if we can sneak out the back door before doing the head over heels thing [;)] After a quick count 2 enemy transports sank outright and 7 were left heavily damaged and sinking. Thanx for the support guys, this was a rare ray of sunshine! [:D]

Fishbed -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 2:04:40 PM)
Hey goddam' it, we're supporting you when the US dozer is running rampage over our imperial heads, the least we could do is to support you equally in victory, right? [:D][;)]

PzB74 -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 2:07:15 PM)
We landed a full Bridgade at Makale today Fish, that's a major reserve unit. The problem is that I can't move troops from Menando and Morotai because of the enemy threat from Wasile. So I have to use Java as staging area. Can draw 15k troops from the region, but not over night. If we can recapture Makale there's a chance that Sulawesi can be cleared. One thing at the time. A full scale counter offensive would open the door into the Central Pacific. Can't do that. quote: ORIGINAL: Fishbed About the SRA by the way, I think we all share the same opinion. These annoying spots have to get obliterated, but do you have the troop means to do so?

PzB74 -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 2:08:14 PM)
[:D] [&o] quote: ORIGINAL: Fishbed Hey goddam' it, we're supporting you when the US dozer is running rampage over our imperial heads, the least we could do is to support you equally in victory, right? [:D][;)]

PzB74 -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 2:13:15 PM)
The convoy Strike Force II hit is a mess already - sent in a small surface group to search for it. Enemy carriers may find these ships. As for the main force itself...I turned it into the wind - towards the West Coast. Only a madman would do something like that [;)] I do know that we were spotted by an enemy B-24 while attacking the convoy yesterday, and I calculated that the only safe spot on the map was due East! This will give us time, more speed and the chance to 'stumble' over another convoy. Next turn we have to make an important decision regarding which course to take. Unfortunately the odds are stacked against us...but we knew that! Now let's play Hide - Seek & Destroy for a few days [:)]

Fishbed -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 2:27:15 PM)
is there any chances to escape due south?

Fishbed -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 2:33:23 PM)
And sorry to piss you off with this kind of considerations, but would it be possible to have a little map of the area please? [:)] Just to see how far you are from every side...?

wernerpruckner -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 3:26:02 PM)
[sm=bow.gif][sm=bow.gif][sm=bow.gif] it is good to see that the show is not too one sided in the late game !! Congrats PzB [sm=00000436.gif] I think we need a PzB fanboy banner [:'(][:D]

Naskra -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 3:34:23 PM)
Nicely done, PzB. Strike Force II will certainly engender a Congressional inquiry and a command shake up.

PzB74 -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 4:33:36 PM)
Thx guys, pretty sure Andy will close the cupboard after this though [;)] Attaching a map Fish! A relatively quiet turn today: can't achieve surprise more than once. A large 48 ac Jill Daitai and another one with 27 ac arrive over the last 2 days. Average exp = 75! [X(] Whoho! Strike planes for my new carriers [:D] I have thought about things and come up with the following action plan: A Brigade from the Northern Force will be moved to Sapporo and the division there moved to reinforce the Marianas. This is the last major reinforcement I can scrounge for a while in this area. At Formosa the newly arrived division there will prepare to assault Tomini at Sulawesi, it will be accompanied by a engineer regiment at Manila. I got a plan for how I'm going to execute this cunning counter attack. Ground units from various bases are being air lifted into Kendari and shipped by barge to the enemy base at Makale. Over time we will swamp the enemy and force him to keep his carriers on station or perish. A large aviation regiment and 2 base forces are being moved from India and Burma to the SRA. They will be accompanied by 1 engineer regiment and 3 SNLF/Guard units that will bolster defensive and offensive capabilities on Borneo. A strong naval bomber / fighter formation will be based on Java and kept in readiness. If Andy sticks around for too long we will whip him again [;)] 3 excess base force units are being moved from the Palaus/PI to Borneo as well. All these redeployments does not weaken our defense in the Marianas - it actually strengthens it [:D] It also provides a strong counter-attack force, as well as defensive LCUs for the SRA. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/14/44 Invasions The Brigade is ashore at Makale: Coastal Guns at Makale, 32,67, firing at TF 65 TF 65 troops unloading over beach at Makale, 32,67 8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese ground losses: 63 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub/ASW Attacks Troop convoys to the Marianas are shielded from enemy subs by their escorts. ASW attack at 60,59 Japanese Ships MSW W.27 MSW W.25 MSW W.2 PC Etoforu Allied Ships SS Grenadier, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 60,57 Japanese Ships PC Ch 21, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage sinks PC Ch 29 PC Shonan Maru #7 PC Shonan Maru #6 PC Fumi Maru PC Aguni PC Awaji APD APD-46 Allied Ships SS Drum Sub attack at 60,59 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Japanese Ships AP Bokuyo Maru MSW W.27 MSW W.25 MSW W.2 PC Etoforu Allied Ships SS Grenadier, hits 4, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Tomini and Makale are getting a lot of heat now. Day Air attack on Tomini , at 34,65 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 35 Ki-21 Sally x 111 Ki-49 Helen x 24 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 21 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 48 Port hits 1 Port supply hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 503rd USA Para Regiment, at 34,65 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14 Ki-21 Sally x 18 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 36 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 3rd NZ/C Division, at 32,67 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 27 Ki-49 Helen x 15 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 12 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damaged transport is finshed of, sparing my loaded ships. Day Air attack on TF at 33,68 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 7 SB2C Helldiver x 20 TBM Avenger x 5 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Minowa Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I sent my unloaded transports out first - they attracted most of the attention. Day Air attack on TF at 33,68 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 8 Corsair IV x 4 SB2C Helldiver x 26 TBM Avenger x 16 Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AP Kembu Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AP Meisho Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire AP Anrugu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AP Koei Maru, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage AP Kunimitsu Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy has joined his TF's and we had just too few attack ac to inflict damage. Day Air attack on TF at 32,71 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 25 D4Y Judy x 16 G4M2 Betty x 18 P1Y Frances x 27 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 22 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 27 F6F Hellcat x 53 Corsair IV x 16 F6F-5N Hellcat x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 25 destroyed D4Y Judy: 4 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 18 destroyed P1Y Frances: 23 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 22 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 6 damaged F6F Hellcat: 7 destroyed, 11 damaged Corsair IV: 6 damaged F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 damaged Allied Ships CVE Anzio LCT LCT-134 Aircraft Attacking: 1 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 43,73 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 5 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed Allied Ships AK Admiral Gove, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat Ground combat at Makale Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 2010 troops, 30 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 168 Defending force 6021 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strike Force Position No sign of the enemy, have stood down all search planes as they work both ways. Will head into the stormy parts of the North Pacific and hang out there for a while. Have to consider whether to RTB or sortie again if Andy doesn't catch us. Suggestions? [image]local://upfiles/1466/CC20DAA648464E5BB02B89E3253BDDE4.jpg[/image]

Nemo121 -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 8:43:03 PM)
Return to base, put out a Glen-equipped picket line and await further opportunities. As I see it logically speaking your aims with this operation were as follows: 1. Actually inflict actual loss on enemy forces. 2. Establish that a risk does exist against enemy SLOCs such that the Allies must apportion more of their forces to escort/nodal reaction force duties. 3. Weaken the forces available to cover the Allied main thrust by drawing them off into escort and nodal reaction force duties. You have inflicted actual loss BUT that risk only continues to exist if your force gets away relatively cleanly. If it is met by an Allied carrier force and suffers damage and loss then Andy will know the chances of you mounting further raids will be much lower and will be forced to divert much smaller forces to escort/nodal reaction duties. In essence you have crossed the threashold from KB being a major threat to Allied combat forces to one where it is a major threat only to unescorted/lightly escorted forces. That threat ONLY continues if your carriers remain in action. They may be in port but so long as they haven't been sunk Andy MUST divert forces to cover for the possibility that they may sortie. In short, based on my understanding of your tactical, operational and strategic goals from this operation you have succeeded. To stay around risks losing what you have gained for almost no chance of gaining any further advantage. Therefore pull back to base, rebuild your squadrons and sortie again at a time and place of your choosing for a repeat performance.

Arstavidios -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 8:49:48 PM)
The point is that US carriers are gonna swarm out of PH like angry hornets burning for revenge.....

FeurerKrieg -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 9:30:33 PM)
I agree completely with Nemo - the threat is worth more than the damage inflicted, so make every attempt to RTB!

PzB74 -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/1/2006 10:06:39 PM)
An excellent analysis Nemo: very much the same conclusion I've reached. 2 days after the strike and still no sign of the enemy. The Strike Force has rejoined the Replenishment Group and refuelled. We're now in the vaunted t-storm belt and we will head west and try to reach Marcus Island within 10 days or so. In a few weeks we should be able to field: 6 fleet carriers and 3 light carriers - a substantial force that can handle an enemy force of 2-3 Essex fleet carriers and 1-2 light carriers. Within 2 weeks the defensive preparations in the Marianas will be complete. Saipan has been sown with 5000 mines. The 2 MLEs are working overtime [:D] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/15/44 Surface Combat More enemy destroyers surge into the 'arm' leading in to Makale and sink several barges loaded with troops. Night Time Surface Combat, near Makale at 32,67 Japanese Ships AG AG-109 AG AG-121 AG AG-5050 AG AG-5068 AG AG-5087 AG AG-5117, Shell hits 2, and is sunk AG AG-2049, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AG AG-2055, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk AG AG-2065 AG AG-2089 AG AG-2091 AG AG-2098 Allied Ships DD Charles Badger DD McCalla DD Drayton Japanese ground losses: 278 casualties reported Guns lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Enemy PT boats and barges really doesn't have anything to do this far from their bases! [:'(] Night Time Surface Combat at 32,71 Japanese Ships AG AG-115 AG AG-5033, Shell hits 2 AG AG-5088, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AG AG-2090, Shell hits 8, on fire AG AG-2097 Allied Ships PT PT-522 PT PT-523 PT PT-524 PT PT-525 Japanese ground losses: 146 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Becoming more and more reckless Andy moves his carriers next to Makale. This triggers a few more strikes that are all stopped cold by the CAP. Several carrier strikes punish the now empty and damaged transports trapped in the 'arm'. On the other side Japanese Army Air Force bombers punish Tomini and Makale, destroying more than 30 enemy ac on the ground. It seems like Andy is having difficulties operating out of the damaged dirt strip at Tomini. We also launch several ground and port strikes to keep the enemy weak. Day Air attack on Tomini , at 34,65 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 34 Ki-21 Sally x 113 Ki-49 Helen x 27 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 5 destroyed Spitfire VIII: 4 destroyed P-47D Thunderbolt: 7 destroyed Allied ground losses: 72 casualties reported Vehicles lost 2 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 37 Port supply hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Makale , at 32,67 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 45 Ki-21 Sally x 76 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 10 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed Allied ground losses: 15 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 36th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 32,67 Japanese aircraft J1N1-S Irving x 13 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 6 F6F Hellcat x 11 Corsair IV x 2 F6F-5N Hellcat x 5 TBM Avenger x 28 Japanese aircraft losses J1N1-S Irving: 10 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 59 casualties reported Guns lost 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 36th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 32,67 Japanese aircraft J1N1-S Irving x 3 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 5 Japanese aircraft losses J1N1-S Irving: 4 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 1st Timor Garrison Battalion, at 32,67 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 27 Ki-49 Helen x 10 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed Allied ground losses: 31 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 33,68 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 11 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 9 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 22 F6F Hellcat x 42 Corsair IV x 7 F6F-5N Hellcat x 16 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 4 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 9 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 33,68 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 16 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 25 Ki-30 Ann x 19 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 22 F6F Hellcat x 37 Corsair IV x 7 F6F-5N Hellcat x 16 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 8 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 23 destroyed Ki-30 Ann: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 31,70 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 17 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Netsuda Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 2 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3 Allied aircraft SB2C Helldiver x 18 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Anbo Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 33,68 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 6 F6F Hellcat x 9 Corsair IV x 2 SB2C Helldiver x 28 F6F-5N Hellcat x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Minto Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AP Nihonkai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire AP Nichiryu Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AP Ryugi Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Macassar at 30,69 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 5 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships PG Hakkaisan Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 33,68 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 9 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4 Ki-30 Ann x 13 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 20 F6F Hellcat x 33 Corsair IV x 5 F6F-5N Hellcat x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 45,74 Japanese aircraft Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 19 Allied aircraft Beaufighter Mk 21 x 2 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-45 KAIb Nick: 1 damaged Allied Ships AK George H. Williams, Shell hits 8 Allied ground losses: 101 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Makale Offensive This strange offensive has entered a new - and close - phase. Sending carriers into harms way together with unescorted convoys close to several Japanese bases is extremely reckless. I've decided to try and stop this once and for all. These carriers need to be dispatched off! The Imperial Japanese Naval Air Force will take the job [:-] [image]local://upfiles/1466/20312DA846F54C31BF8B94EADC9A19DE.jpg[/image]

Fishbed -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/2/2006 12:53:34 AM)
Well should I cross fingers again? I did it today already for France vs Brazil, hope Ive got some good luck-credit left for you [:D] [;)]

PzB74 -> RE: Enemy troop convoy struck, CVE sunk! (7/2/2006 1:23:15 AM)
Think you should... [;)] T-storms for tomorrow & we need one BIG strike - not 3 small ones [:'(] The carrier strike was such a beauty really. It didn't inflict that much damage, but all the planning was followed up by a perfectly executed strike! 1. Slipped through enemy search planes. 2. Scout sub spotted enemy convoy. 3. Strike Force closed within 1 hex of enemy convoy. 4. 2 perfect strikes with a high hit % were launched despite of t-storm warnings. 5. Strike Force faded away into the waste of the Pacific. This is what makes WitP SO great [&o] [:D] Btw: Congrats on the place in the Semis Fish! [8D] Will meet Germany in a grand finale...(Italy is out of favor with me because they beat Norway in the qualics;-)

PzB74 -> Nakajima C6N1-S Saiun "Myrt" (7/2/2006 2:50:50 AM)
I've just upgraded my Irving Recon units to the new 'Myrt'. Decided to read more about this type and found some interesting info here: Myrt Can paste in the text and highlight the interesting stuff: Nakajima's C6N Saiun was among the finest carrier-based reconnaissance aircraft to operate during World War II. Soon after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Japanese naval leaders acknowledged that standard torpedo bombers made poor reconnaissance aircraft. A new, fast airplane designed and built specifically to conduct long-range scouting missions was needed. In the spring of 1942, Nakajima Hikoki K. K. received a new specification from the Naval Staff. It described a 3-seat aircraft with a maximum speed of 648 kph (403 mph), a normal range of 2,780 km (1,727 mi), and a maximum range of 4,956 km (3,078 mi). Landing speed must not exceed 130 kph (81 mph), and the airplane must climb from sea level to 6000 m (19,685 ft) in less than 8 minutes. Engineers Yasuo Fukuda and Yoshizo Yamamoto originally envisioned a pair of 1000 horsepower engines buried in the fuselage of the new design and driving propellers mounted on the leading edge of the wings, via extension shafts. Thankfully, the Nakajima Homare engine was about to be introduced. Its relatively small diameter, coupled with a high power rating, allowed Fukuda and Yamamoto to meet the specified speed and range goals using a single engine. The original power arrangement would probably have been unreliable and a maintenance nightmare. The vertical stabilizer was canted forward to keep the overall length of the aircraft within the dimensions of existing carrier deck elevators. The two Nakajima engineers used both Fowler flaps and split flaps to keep the landing speed low. The 3-man crew (pilot, observer, and radioman/gunner) sat beneath a long canopy. In flight, the observer viewed the earth below through windows in the bottom and sides of the fuselage. Nakajima completed the first prototype in March 1943 and flew it first on May 15. From the start, the Homare engine failed to generate the specified power at altitude and suffered other problems endemic to most new engines. While the aircraft handled well, the power loss meant that the speed requirements could not be met. The speed that was achieved, 639 kph (397 mph), was still far better than any other similar airplane. The Navy ordered the Saiun into production in the spring of 1944. By war's end, Nakajima had built 463 C6N aircraft at the company's two factories in Koizuma and Handa. Nakajima's slender, elegant design saw its first combat during the battles for the Marianas. By carrying a torpedo-shaped gas tank of 730 liters (193 gal), the C6N1 Saiuns (or MYRT as the Allies called them) could fly more than 4,830 km (3,000 mi). Range of this magnitude, combined with high speed, generally kept them safe from intercepting U. S. Navy Grumman Hellcat fighters (see NASM collection). MYRT crews could shadow the U.S. fleet with impunity. Nakajima also worked on a torpedo-carrying variant, the C6N1-B, but this model was not needed after Japan lost most of its carriers. As Allied forces closed in on the home islands, there arose a critical need for good night fighters. Nakajima created the C6N1-S by eliminating the observer and installing two oblique-firing 20 mm cannon in his place. These weapons weighed about the same as the observer, so performance suffered little. The C6N1-S was the fastest Japanese night interceptor but it had no air-to-air radar equipment. Only a few of the type were built. Other designs C6N variants were contemplated but none left the drafting boards. A MYRT was the last aircraft shot down in World War II, at 5:40 a.m. on August 15, 1945, five minutes before the hostilities ended. The National Air and Space Museum's Saiun is the last example remaining of this fine aircraft. It is one of the C6N1-S night-fighter variants armed with oblique-firing 20 mm cannon and crewed by two men. The aircraft was part of the shipment of 145 Japanese aircraft sent to the U.S. for technical evaluation. It transited the Pacific aboard the escort carrier USS "Barnes" and arrived at Langley Field, Virginia on December 8, 1945. It is not known why the Navy transferred this airplane to the Army Air Forces (AAF) but Army personnel overhauled the MYRT at the air depot at Middletown, Pennsylvania, then flight-tested the airplane. Details about the test flights remain unknown. On August 22, 1946, an AAF pilot flew the Saiun to the foreign aircraft storage area at Orchard Place Airport, Park Ridge, Illinois. The Air Force turned over the MYRT and all other assets at Park Ridge to the National Air Museum in 1949. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It therefore seems that: 1. The Myrt should be carrier capable, giving the IJN carriers an invaluable recon asset. 2. The Myrt was faster than what Matrix has given it credit for - should be 397 and not 379 mph! 3. A torpedo carrying verions should be available. 4. The Myrt should be able to operate with more impunity than what is the case in WitP. I produce 140 Dinah IIIs pr month and can barely not keep up with losses [:(] [image]local://upfiles/1466/F0D2EF57CF2548CA90B57661A9C9D47A.jpg[/image]

PzB74 -> Industry Overview May 1944 (7/2/2006 3:11:56 AM)
I've compared industry output for May 1944 with that of last month. Industry Overview May 1944 [image]local://upfiles/1466/E3A43AC38ADF48F0B25CC22611512FD0.jpg[/image] Aircraft engine output has increased by almost 300 units to 3415. It's still very difficult to produce a pool since ac production increases with the same pace as engine production can be increased. Aircraft production is up by almost 400 units! From 2262 to 2631 + some 450 RD. The armament pool has decreased by over 30000 units after I halted several factories. Have to restart some of them. Merchant shipyard is up by 2500, most likely because most of the accelerated CVE's have been finished. Naval shipyard pool is still at 0, should increase when the last few accelerated cv's have been finished. Oil pool is up by almost 470k units! [X(] From 1294609 to 1776250! This is excellent but somewhat surprising news!? How long will such a reserve last if the SRA is cut off? The resource pool is stable at some 2080000 units. Heavy industry is up 100k units! [X(] From a mere 15k to 115k units. Most amazing, the only truly important change I've done is to halt several armaments factories. Manpower reserves are down by some 80k units from 1620000 to 1547000. Lots of new units have been deployed over the last month. Fuel reserves are up by 127k units from 5250000 to 5377000. Supply reserves are down by 230k units from 5130000 to 490000. The large increase in ac/engine production, conversion of ac factories and the shipment of 200k units to the perimeter bases must be the reason for this drop. In short: reserves are substantial and if we can increase the HI and shipping pools, we may be stocked for a long siege. Just how long is something I have to ask you logistics guru's about [;)]

PzB74 -> RE: Industry Overview May 1944 (7/2/2006 4:27:14 AM)
Afraid you spent all your luck asking for that win over Brasil Fish [:'(] Most of my Zekes followed a strike against the enemy carriers now in Makale port... Somehow only 30 of 130 bombers followed - and of these 2 of the units with the lowest morale decided to strunt along. It's just not possible to get of proper Jap strikes anymore, they're all messed up one way or another. Today we could have won a major victory. An attack on Kendari by Lightnings and a few Libs indicates that the place will be crushed by heavies any time now. The trained Zekes in Kendari performed exceptionally badly today, were shot down in drowes and inflicted only a few kills. Starting to think that I don't have to train them anymore either. Trained Frank, George and Jacks and untrained Zekes and Oscars sounds like a plan for the future. Comments? (Of course I have to trian the carrier based Zekes) We make another effort tomorrow: New Zekes are in place and the bombers are rested and capable. Some good news: Strike Force I is heading west and no sign of the enemy [8D] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/16/44 Air Combat 63 CAP fighters vs 24 Lightnings. Losses: 18 CAP fighters and 2 P-38's. 1-9 ratio. New 'bad record'...and the Zekes were flown by TRAINED pilots! Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 52 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 6 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 5 Allied aircraft Mosquito PR.IX x 2 P-38J Lightning x 24 F-5A Lightning x 2 F-5C Lightning x 4 PB4Y Liberator x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 12 destroyed, 5 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 2 destroyed D4Y Judy: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged F-5C Lightning: 1 damaged PB4Y Liberator: 6 damaged Japanese ground losses: 14 casualties reported Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Makale at 32,67 72 escort fighters vs 67 CAP fighters. Losses: 62 escort fighters and 9 CAP fighters. A 1-7 ratio. Most horrible... Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 50 D4Y Judy x 13 G4M1 Betty x 3 G4M2 Betty x 10 P1Y Frances x 6 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 22 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 19 F6F Hellcat x 34 Corsair IV x 5 F6F-5N Hellcat x 9 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 43 destroyed D4Y Judy: 2 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 5 destroyed P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 18 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged Corsair IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged F6F-5N Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Anzio CVE Sangamon CL Adelaide Aircraft Attacking: - 7 bombers got through...imagine if it had been 70! [:o] 2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Fishbed -> RE: Industry Overview May 1944 (7/2/2006 9:06:08 AM)
Dummy! [X(][:(]

pauk -> RE: Industry Overview May 1944 (7/2/2006 1:12:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB It's just not possible to get of proper Jap strikes anymore, they're all messed up one way or another. Today we could have won a major victory. From the picture attached it seems that you didn't overstack Kendari. Stupid usual guestions (i'm sure that you did everything well but i need to be catious before i start rant about another anti-Jap conspiracy[;)]) - enough supply, moral status of the bombers...? I don't get it and i'm starting to suspect that there is some hidden code "penalty for jap air strike in late war period"....[&:] quote: ORIGINAL: PzB The trained Zekes in Kendari performed exceptionally badly today, were shot down in drowes and inflicted only a few kills. Starting to think that I don't have to train them anymore either. Trained Frank, George and Jacks and untrained Zekes and Oscars sounds like a plan for the future. Comments? (Of course I have to trian the carrier based Zekes) From experience learnt last few days it seems that you are right. One small trick just in case that you didn't aware of it. Check your Sentais which upgrades to Frank and disband other crack groups to them. That will allow you to have 2x crack pilots than you would have with "normal" upgrade. Just disband those groups (or even better fragments of those groups) before you upgrade sentais to the Frank.... quote: reserves are substantial and if we can increase the HI and shipping pools, we may be stocked for a long siege. Just how long is something I have to ask you logistics guru's about Not a bad situation in your industry, indeed. I calculated and now you have a reserves for another 4 months of full production (1.770.000 oil / 14 979 = 119 days)... Here some thoughts (based on ac production previously posted too): 1. I do not know what is your merchie fleet status - do you have enough APs, AKs...if you think that you have them enough you can turn off some merch shipyards to save HI points 2. I see that you still count on new CVs. Probably there are lots of DDs which need to be produced too. Once when majority of these ships are finished (not before) you can turn off some naval shipyard points too (NS are great consumer of HI!) 3. ac production: i see that you have app 1200 Georges (monthly rate: 186) - you could turn off some Georges (30?)... you will not save a lot HI points but it will save your engines... You have more then 1000 Judy in reserve as well, but produciton of 86 doesn't guarantee you will be able to replace losses in the short time (after "decisive kamikaze battle"[8\|]), but you may consider temperarely turn off some ac types. My favourites are Tojos (almost 500 in the pool, but you will need a lot Nakajima engines once when Frank goes into producition..... My advice to you: ship all oil you can get it from SRA to Japan while you can! As you may see you don't need a lot of reserves with your current HI production (latter you can turn off some HI after you turn off shipyards) so do everything you can to protect your oil fields)... you have 2895 oil - which is enough for supporting more than 17.000 HI. Some oilfields are "closed" for shipment (Sorong, Amboina) so lets assume that you can count on 2.500 oil - which is enough for 15K HI... IMO, you shouldnt expand HI anymore, you need to have a decent stockpile of the oil (when your industry runs into trouble you can, as i mentioned before turn off some industry....) Despite the failure of the your recent strikes on enemy CVs, you are doing a good job. If his AFs at Sulawesi are closed he can't airlift troops! he would be forced to send ships which makes him vunerable to your naval and air force... if he stays with his CVEs near sooner or latter he could make a mistake (what about escort of these CVs - if he stays in same hex for two or three days you could found him with strong CA TF and.... booom!)...

castor troy -> RE: Nakajima C6N1-S Saiun "Myrt" (7/2/2006 2:34:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PzB I've just upgraded my Irving Recon units to the new 'Myrt'. Decided to read more about this type and found some interesting info here: Myrt Can paste in the text and highlight the interesting stuff: Nakajima's C6N Saiun was among the finest carrier-based reconnaissance aircraft to operate during World War II. Soon after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Japanese naval leaders acknowledged that standard torpedo bombers made poor reconnaissance aircraft. A new, fast airplane designed and built specifically to conduct long-range scouting missions was needed. In the spring of 1942, Nakajima Hikoki K. K. received a new specification from the Naval Staff. It described a 3-seat aircraft with a maximum speed of 648 kph (403 mph), a normal range of 2,780 km (1,727 mi), and a maximum range of 4,956 km (3,078 mi). Landing speed must not exceed 130 kph (81 mph), and the airplane must climb from sea level to 6000 m (19,685 ft) in less than 8 minutes. Engineers Yasuo Fukuda and Yoshizo Yamamoto originally envisioned a pair of 1000 horsepower engines buried in the fuselage of the new design and driving propellers mounted on the leading edge of the wings, via extension shafts. Thankfully, the Nakajima Homare engine was about to be introduced. Its relatively small diameter, coupled with a high power rating, allowed Fukuda and Yamamoto to meet the specified speed and range goals using a single engine. The original power arrangement would probably have been unreliable and a maintenance nightmare. The vertical stabilizer was canted forward to keep the overall length of the aircraft within the dimensions of existing carrier deck elevators. The two Nakajima engineers used both Fowler flaps and split flaps to keep the landing speed low. The 3-man crew (pilot, observer, and radioman/gunner) sat beneath a long canopy. In flight, the observer viewed the earth below through windows in the bottom and sides of the fuselage. Nakajima completed the first prototype in March 1943 and flew it first on May 15. From the start, the Homare engine failed to generate the specified power at altitude and suffered other problems endemic to most new engines. While the aircraft handled well, the power loss meant that the speed requirements could not be met. The speed that was achieved, 639 kph (397 mph), was still far better than any other similar airplane. The Navy ordered the Saiun into production in the spring of 1944. By war's end, Nakajima had built 463 C6N aircraft at the company's two factories in Koizuma and Handa. Nakajima's slender, elegant design saw its first combat during the battles for the Marianas. By carrying a torpedo-shaped gas tank of 730 liters (193 gal), the C6N1 Saiuns (or MYRT as the Allies called them) could fly more than 4,830 km (3,000 mi). Range of this magnitude, combined with high speed, generally kept them safe from intercepting U. S. Navy Grumman Hellcat fighters (see NASM collection). MYRT crews could shadow the U.S. fleet with impunity. Nakajima also worked on a torpedo-carrying variant, the C6N1-B, but this model was not needed after Japan lost most of its carriers. As Allied forces closed in on the home islands, there arose a critical need for good night fighters. Nakajima created the C6N1-S by eliminating the observer and installing two oblique-firing 20 mm cannon in his place. These weapons weighed about the same as the observer, so performance suffered little. The C6N1-S was the fastest Japanese night interceptor but it had no air-to-air radar equipment. Only a few of the type were built. Other designs C6N variants were contemplated but none left the drafting boards. A MYRT was the last aircraft shot down in World War II, at 5:40 a.m. on August 15, 1945, five minutes before the hostilities ended. The National Air and Space Museum's Saiun is the last example remaining of this fine aircraft. It is one of the C6N1-S night-fighter variants armed with oblique-firing 20 mm cannon and crewed by two men. The aircraft was part of the shipment of 145 Japanese aircraft sent to the U.S. for technical evaluation. It transited the Pacific aboard the escort carrier USS "Barnes" and arrived at Langley Field, Virginia on December 8, 1945. It is not known why the Navy transferred this airplane to the Army Air Forces (AAF) but Army personnel overhauled the MYRT at the air depot at Middletown, Pennsylvania, then flight-tested the airplane. Details about the test flights remain unknown. On August 22, 1946, an AAF pilot flew the Saiun to the foreign aircraft storage area at Orchard Place Airport, Park Ridge, Illinois. The Air Force turned over the MYRT and all other assets at Park Ridge to the National Air Museum in 1949. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It therefore seems that: 1. The Myrt should be carrier capable, giving the IJN carriers an invaluable recon asset. 2. The Myrt was faster than what Matrix has given it credit for - should be 397 and not 379 mph! 3. A torpedo carrying verions should be available. 4. The Myrt should be able to operate with more impunity than what is the case in WitP. I produce 140 Dinah IIIs pr month and can barely not keep up with losses [:(] [image]local://upfiles/1466/F0D2EF57CF2548CA90B57661A9C9D47A.jpg[/image] Why do you upgrade the Irving to the Myrt if the Irving has a range of 13 and the Myrt only 10?

pauk -> RE: Nakajima C6N1-S Saiun "Myrt" (7/2/2006 2:45:48 PM)
I dig it on the net for data about Myrt. Actually looked at my favourite site which proved as quite good... speed for Myrt is listed as it have in WiTP (609 kmph) but unfortunatly there is no number of produced subvariants of these fine aircraft... http://www.lemaire.happyhost.org/avion/avion1/354.html#103085

PzB74 -> RE: Nakajima C6N1-S Saiun "Myrt" (7/2/2006 3:28:41 PM)
Again a half hearted raid on the enemy carriers of Makale - we hit 2 escort carriers today though. We got one more chance before Andy's pulling out. There are now bombers at several bases and subs are blocking the path of the enemy CV group. I've changed bomber pilot commanders that are 'cautious' - aggression before competence now, want to take out this carrier group. Still, I don't want to committ ac that are needed to stave of Andy's next major offensive - which I'm sure will materialize shortly. Way to quiet on all other fronts. Even our Strike Force has been left in peace and quiet! [8D] I think all my Tojo groups upgrade to the Frank Pauk! [:)] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/17/44 Surface Combat Sent a destroyer to Tomini, hoped to find some easy kills. Found 3 PT boats...fortunately the Hamanami is a capable ship and dispatched of them all! Day Time Surface Combat, near Tomini at 34,65 Japanese Ships DD Hamanami, Shell hits 4 Allied Ships PT PT-526, Shell hits 23, and is sunk PT PT-527, Shell hits 27, and is sunk PT PT-529, Shell hits 1, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub/ASW Attacks Ouch! That was a 16000 cap tanker loaded with oil! Fortunately it can be docked in Tawi Tawi 1 hex away. Sub attack at 37,61 Japanese Ships TK Akatsuki Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire MSW Shanan Maru #16 MSW Hinode Maru #20 MSW W.13 Allied Ships SS Shark -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Combat Trying to disturb enemy activities at Namlea, not sure if it got any effect. Night Air attack on Wasile , at 41,69 Japanese aircraft J1N1-S Irving x 27 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses J1N1-S Irving: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged Allied aircraft losses Runway hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Todays attack on Tomini was ravaged by enemy CAP fighters... Day Air attack on Tomini , at 34,65 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 35 Ki-21 Sally x 109 Ki-49 Helen x 27 Allied aircraft Spitfire VIII x 1 P-40N Warhawk x 18 P-47D Thunderbolt x 2 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 9 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 10 destroyed, 5 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged Allied aircraft losses Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed P-40N Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged P-47D Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed Allied ground losses: 48 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Vehicles lost 2 Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 23 Port supply hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Even worse over Makale: Day Air attack on Makale , at 32,67 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2 Ki-21 Sally x 16 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 3 Spitfire VIII x 12 P-38J Lightning x 15 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 13 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged Spitfire VIII: 3 damaged P-38J Lightning: 1 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 4000 feet 1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 4000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 16 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 5 Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 15 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 3 Allied aircraft Mosquito PR.IX x 2 P-38J Lightning x 12 F-5A Lightning x 2 F-5C Lightning x 4 PB4Y Liberator x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed, 9 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed Ki-45 KAIb Nick: 2 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 1 damaged P1Y Frances: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Mosquito PR.IX: 1 damaged PB4Y Liberator: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 8 casualties reported Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Supply levels at Noemfoor are still some 10k. Really difficult for Andy to get anywhere here! [:)] Day Air attack on Noemfoor , at 45,76 Allied aircraft Kittyhawk III x 6 P-40N Warhawk x 6 PB4Y Liberator x 10 B-24J Liberator x 71 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 16 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 83 Port supply hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 3rd NZ/C Division, at 32,67 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 39 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 3 Spitfire VIII x 12 P-38J Lightning x 15 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 8 destroyed, 11 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged Spitfire VIII: 4 damaged P-38J Lightning: 7 damaged Allied ground losses: 5 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Tomini at 34,65 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 1 F6F Hellcat x 2 TBM Avenger x 6 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 5 damaged Japanese Ships - again the Hamanami extract herselv from trouble! Lucky ship indeed. DD Hamanami -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Enemy carriers are still expending energy on the empty troop ships of Makale. Day Air attack on TF at 32,71 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 3 F6F Hellcat x 3 Corsair IV x 1 SB2C Helldiver x 27 TBM Avenger x 8 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 2 damaged Japanese Ships PG Aso Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AP Anrugu Maru, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage AP Kunimitsu Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Macassar at 30,69 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 7 F6F Hellcat x 9 Corsair IV x 2 SB2C Helldiver x 15 F6F-5N Hellcat x 6 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Nichiryu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AP Ryugi Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AP Minto Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 32,71 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3 Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 14 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 2 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 5 F6F Hellcat x 6 Corsair IV x 1 TBM Avenger x 5 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AP Kunimitsu Maru, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Todays main event: after being grounded by weather in the AM turn the bombers sortied against the enemy carriers - this time near Pomala! Again a fair number of fighters took of, but only 1/3 of the available bombers followed suit. Still, the Zekes performed better today and most of the bombers got through the CAP and 2 CVE's were hit by torpedoes. I know the Wasp and Formidable? are part of this TF, but no ac have still attacked the. Day Air attack on TF, near Pomala at 32,69 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 48 G4M2 Betty x 17 P1Y Frances x 28 Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 17 F6F Hellcat x 24 Corsair IV x 5 F6F-5N Hellcat x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 25 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged P1Y Frances: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 14 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 9 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 2 damaged Corsair IV: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged F6F-5N Hellcat: 5 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Sangamon CVE Long Island, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CVE Anzio CVE Corregidor, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CL Tromp ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground Combat It's going to be difficult to root out the evil in Makale - need some really heavy mining tool to get the job done! Ground combat at Makale Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 1990 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 279 Defending force 6199 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 122 Japanese ground losses: 10 casualties reported --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Trying to upload a screenie here, but the Matrix net isn't responding...will add it later! Got it, upload speed in bits today. [image]local://upfiles/1466/63AE27C44C5E4CE5AB771E99C776A806.jpg[/image]

PzB74 -> RE: Nakajima C6N1-S Saiun "Myrt" (7/2/2006 3:36:09 PM)
Regarding the Myrt: I only got 3 groups and I hoped they would be carrier capable. Also thought the Irving they upgraded from had a range of 9? May be wrong, but it doesn't matter. Irving factories have auto converted and most of my search plane groups are equipped with the Dinah III that got a range of 13-14. This is actually a problem: if you try to produce an ac like the Irving after the factory has auto upgraded it's impossible to change it back....cause it will auto upgrade again. This has forced me to upgrade several transport groups to the Hickory, same with the Ann dive bomber. Auto upgrades to an even more crappy design [:'(] With the introduction of the Grace we will have a carrier based plane with a max range of 10 hexes. This will be very handy as we can 'sniff out' the enemy long before he sees us! There were probably several versions of the Myrt Pauk, difficult when there's only one in game version of the plane. Will get a night fighter version later on, can put em on LRCAP in daylight I guess....

Fishbed -> RE: Nakajima C6N1-S Saiun "Myrt" (7/2/2006 3:49:16 PM)
We have to investigate somewhat these awful air combat results. One year ago or so in the solomons, KB Zeroes had disposed of Hellcats quite efficiently, so why should such a comparable situation should be different now? Is Fatigue the main difference? I dont think so, I am sure there is some way to optimize the use of altitude and tactics when it comes to use diffenrent types of IJN and IJA planes together. But I have nothing to conduct tests myself :( But there must be a way to do something about that... That can't only be a dice roll thing...

PzB74 -> RE: Nakajima C6N1-S Saiun "Myrt" (7/2/2006 4:01:53 PM)
Thx for the input regarding production Pauk! 4 months of reserves...if we could increase this to 6 within 6 months. Then Andy would have only 6 months to be able to shut us down. Not sure he can do that. I've halted all AK/AP but continue to build TKs. This is the first time the merchant yards are producing surplus points. Want to have a pool before I turn them off. So let's say another 2-3 months of production? I've halted Sally prodiuction, not sure I can halt the others. Will receive many 48 ac George Daitais over the next months and I want at least 2000 in the pools. Same with Judys, when the Kamikaze is triggered they will be needed in droves. Will soon produce 470 Franks pr month, need as many as possible of this fine ac. Believe me, we're shipping all the oil we can from the SRA [;)]Ambonie and Sorong got very small oil fields, seldom moved my tankers here anyway. It's very, very difficult to keep the enemy airfields at Sulawesi closed. Andy simply moves in more ac and our Army bombers and Oscars can't defend themselves efficiently. Not sure I would like to use the Combined Fleet to do the job. We could win a victory here, but then we would not be able to field a strong fleet and air force to oppose a landing elsewhere. This is most likely what Andy wants to achieve. Still, we can delay his buildup and make it very costly with relatively few resources. Within 1 month there will be dozens of new LCU's in the area, making ALL remaining bases very difficult to occupy. With dozens of bases in the PI/SRA, it will not be possible to defend them all against an all out offensive. This is an option ONLY for the Marianas with the few bases there. So I think we're following the correct doctrine for this? Comments? Strategic overview: SRA After 6 attempts I managed to upload another screenie! [image]local://upfiles/1466/A8207AC3EB63436191EE8C333D71DD33.jpg[/image]

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