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racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/22/2005 5:36:56 PM)
SITUATION REPORT: 2-11-44 SWPAC: SWPAC forces capture Sansapor and the remnants of the Japanese defenders are forced to retreat into the interior jungles of New Guinea: Ground combat at Sansapor Allied Shock attack Attacking force 52804 troops, 456 guns, 135 vehicles Defending force 2388 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 7 Allied assault odds: 732 to 1 (fort level 7) Allied forces CAPTURE Sansapor base !!! Japanese ground losses: 98 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 67 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! SWPAC has completed offensive operations in New Guinea and now prepares for the Philippines. Curiously, a flight of Emilys attacks the Allied transports off Sansapor. This could be possibly the 1st Japanese kamikaze attack of the war: Day Air attack on TF, near Sansapor at 44,74 Japanese aircraft H8K Emily x 8 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 8 F6F Hellcat x 4 Hellcat II x 5 F4U-1 Corsair x 10 Spitfire Vb x 2 Kittyhawk III x 6 Mosquito FB.VI x 8 Japanese aircraft losses H8K Emily: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Mosquito FB.VI: 1 damaged CENTPAC: Allied heavy and medium bombers continue to work over the defenders on Guam from their bases in the Palaus and the Caroline Islands: Day Air attack on 7th Division, at 62,66 Allied aircraft PBY Catalina x 2 P-38J Lightning x 32 PB4Y Liberator x 28 B-24J Liberator x 186 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 565 casualties reported Guns lost 15 Day Air attack on 7th Division, at 62,66 Allied aircraft F-5C Lightning x 2 B-25C Mitchell x 58 B-25J Mitchell x 149 Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 5 damaged B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 421 casualties reported Guns lost 9 The IJA 7th Division suffers nearly 1000 casualties. [image]local://upfiles/14495/A064689C791041AEB8002F78F777DE8C.jpg[/image]

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/24/2005 5:29:45 AM)
SITUATION REPORT: 2-17-44 SOUTH CHINA SEA A brutal ASW/SUB confrontation has been raging for the last 2 weeks in the South China Sea and surrounding waters: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/17/44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 32,65 Japanese Ships AK Shinsei Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS KVIII -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 32,66 Japanese Ships AK Sinno Maru Allied Ships SS KVII -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 37,53 Japanese Ships TK Kokuyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire PC Amakusa PC Oki APD APD-36 APD APD-32 DD Asanagi Allied Ships SS Guavina -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 46,54 Japanese Ships AK Sakura Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Tang No quarter is asked for or given by either side. Finally the weather clears enough for the naval bombers at Saigon to seek retribution on an IJN ASW TF: Day Air attack on TF at 35,54 Allied aircraft Beaufighter VIC x 24 Beaufighter Mk 21 x 42 B-25J Mitchell x 6 Allied aircraft losses Beaufighter Mk 21: 2 damaged Japanese Ships MSW W.10, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage APD APD-2 DD Wakaba, Bomb hits 3, on fire APD APD-38, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PC Ch 13 PC Kyo Maru #7, Bomb hits 1, on fire [image]local://upfiles/14495/32C968B4EA8045249B148B17ECD1D54E.jpg[/image]

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/24/2005 7:39:09 PM)
SITUATION REPORT: 2-20-44 SEAC: In a scene eerily reminiscient of December 7th, 1941.....only the starting positions are virtually reversed.....SEAC commences the long awaited offensive to capture The Malay peninsula with a powerfull deliberate assault on heavily fortified Alor Star: Ground combat at Alor Star Allied Shock attack Attacking force 177257 troops, 1530 guns, 1140 vehicles Defending force 58499 troops, 523 guns, 120 vehicles Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5 Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 5) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4 Japanese ground losses: 1786 casualties reported Guns lost 61 Vehicles lost 2 Allied ground losses: 2975 casualties reported Guns lost 99 Vehicles lost 9 [image]local://upfiles/14495/FC0022A862E04EF7A7E3EF8269E2DBA9.jpg[/image]

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/24/2005 10:42:23 PM)
SITUATION REPORT: 2-21-44 SEAC: On the 2nd day of the battle for Alor Star SEAC breaks through the defenses and captures the base....albeit with heavy casualties. 63,000 IJA retreat towards Georgetown: Ground combat at Alor Star Allied Shock attack Attacking force 171794 troops, 1383 guns, 1131 vehicles Defending force 55745 troops, 437 guns, 115 vehicles Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2 Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 2) Allied forces CAPTURE Alor Star base !!! Japanese ground losses: 1006 casualties reported Guns lost 27 Vehicles lost 2 Allied ground losses: 4877 casualties reported Guns lost 122 Vehicles lost 6 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! [image]local://upfiles/14495/E3D2E4BB20BB47AAB2AA52AE074CF279.jpg[/image]

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/25/2005 5:24:14 AM)
SITUATION REPORT: 2-25-44 SEAC: SEAC troops bulldoze their way through Taiping to capture the base. The IJA retreats towards Georgetown to cut their own lines of communication. The 33,000 IJA isolated in Georgetown will now be annihilated. Allied Shock attack Attacking force 100521 troops, 733 guns, 659 vehicles Defending force 3452 troops, 7 guns, 46 vehicles Allied assault odds: 2949 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Taiping base !!! Japanese ground losses: 970 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Vehicles lost 40 Allied ground losses: 116 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Vehicles lost 1 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! [image]local://upfiles/14495/141A9BDBF1534668AD063B70E7A71D45.jpg[/image]

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/25/2005 5:42:22 PM)
SITUATION REPORT: 2-27-44 SOUTH CHINA SEA The battle for the South China Sea rages on both above and below the surface as Japan desperately attempts to maintain its line of supply to its oil production centers: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/27/44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 37,59 Japanese Ships MSW Wa 104 MSW Wa 102 Allied Ships SS Scamp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 34,54 Japanese Ships AK Morioka Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Allied Ships SS Sculpin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 33,54 Japanese Ships TK Itsukushima Maru, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Peto Day Air attack on TF at 33,54 Allied aircraft Beaufighter VIC x 23 Beaufighter Mk 21 x 24 B-25J Mitchell x 8 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Kogane Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire AK Morioka Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire AP Tempei Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage AP Nekka Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage AP Tsuiba Maru AP Ronsan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Day Air attack on TF at 33,54 Allied aircraft Beaufighter VIC x 14 Beaufighter Mk 21 x 13 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Ronsan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AP Tempei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AP Nekka Maru, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage AP Kogane Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Day Air attack on TF at 33,54 Allied aircraft Beaufighter VIC x 17 Beaufighter Mk 21 x 9 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Morioka Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AP Nekka Maru, on fire, heavy damage AP Ronsan Maru, on fire, heavy damage AP Kogane Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage [image]local://upfiles/14495/424E69B59609489EAC564EB22C663688.jpg[/image]

Belphegor -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/25/2005 6:50:36 PM)
With the fall of Saigon I've been reduced to a very small corridor, loaded with subs. My ASW has been working overtime the last few months and many need time in port to recover. I've lost a lot of shipping to subs, and now to aircraft as well. It is only a matter of time until the DEI is closed to me as the Malaya campaign has started. A new feature in this battle... the Allies have started to mine my routes and ports. I have had at least 4 tankers damaged by mines (none sunk but out of action). I've had to add more minesweepers and more air cover to my transports. I'm running in as much oil as I can. One more Allied sub sinks. My 'safe transit area' is the area inside the red where I don't have to worry about too much aircraft, but there are tons of subs in there. I don't always use that area as his air gets in there too. [image]local://upfiles/11973/80D7E48AD9A14DB3B06F8A9F39E1A733.jpg[/image]

Belphegor -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/25/2005 8:29:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Belphegor quote: ORIGINAL: Belphegor To date Mid May '43 45 Allied subs confirmed sunk. Salmon went down yesterday near port, Whale and Tambor hit and sunk near Formosa. It is now 5 months later... 74 confirmed Allied sub kills. It has been one heck of an ASW fight between Luzon and Formosa, and just off the Japanese Home Islands. I've lost a lot of tankers, and had many damaged. 5 more months. 106 confirmed Allied sub kills. That's 61 subs in 10 months... mostly near the PI, and on my resource shipping routes. About 1 sub every 5 days. It hasn't been enough.

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/28/2005 4:21:00 AM)
WARPLANS: SPRING 1944 MARIANAS CAMPAIGN With the first B-29s scheduled to roll off the assmbly lines in the near future, USAAF General Hap Arnold has insisted that suitable bomber bases be secured within range of Japan. In a joint operation, CENTPAC and SOPAC will combine assets to capture the Mariana Island group. Less heavily defended Guam and Tinian will be taken 1st. Then air and naval bases will be built up to reduce Saipan. Recon has identified over 25 seperate units based at Saipan and an additional 2-3 months will be required to prepare that island for invasion. Covering the invasion force will again be the job of Admiral Spruances' 5th Fleet consisting of Admiral Mitscher's Fast Carrier TF 58 with 8 CVs and 8 CVLs and Admiral Lee's BB TF 54 with 15 BBs and 22 CAs. Direct air support for the invasion will be provided by 15 CVEs in Admiral Turner's Escort TF. With the threat of massive kamikaze intervention, heavy bombers based at Palau and Ulithi have suppressed the airfields on Saipan and Tinian while medium bombers from Woleia have worked over the ground units on Guam. [image]local://upfiles/14495/F60BA444981C4DCF8E91BC1E63490E6B.jpg[/image]

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/28/2005 5:03:56 AM)
SITUATION REPORT: 3-5-44 MARIANAS CAMPAIGN...INVASION OF GUAM: D-DAY- ONE The action started early when Bombardment TF #1038 ventured into a minefield leaving 2 CAs damaged: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/05/44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1038 encounters mine field at Guam (62,66) Allied Ships DMS Zane CA Salt Lake City, Mine hits 1, on fire CA New Orleans, Mine hits 1 Then the Bombardment TF worked over a hapless AK before shelling the island: Night Time Surface Combat, near Guam at 62,66 Japanese Ships AK Toyohasi Maru, Shell hits 39, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Colorado BB Warspite BB Revenge BC Repulse CA Indianapolis CA Chicago CA Salt Lake City, on fire CA Quincy CA Suffolk CA Exeter CL Mauritius CA New Orleans DD Porter DD Isaac Sweers DMS Zane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Guam, at 62,66 Allied Ships CA New Orleans CL Mauritius CA Exeter CA Suffolk CA Quincy CA Salt Lake City, on fire CA Chicago CA Indianapolis BC Repulse BB Revenge BB Warspite BB Colorado Japanese ground losses: 426 casualties reported Guns lost 9 Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 79 Port hits 16 Port supply hits 37 Allied heavy bombers based at Ulithi continued to suppress the airfield at Saipan: Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 12 PB4Y Liberator x 29 B-24J Liberator x 205 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 12 damaged Japanese ground losses: 302 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 22 Airbase supply hits 14 Runway hits 302 while bombers based at Palau continued to pummel the airfield at Tinian: Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft F-5C Lightning x 2 PB4Y Liberator x 58 B-24J Liberator x 64 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-15 Babs: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses PB4Y Liberator: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged B-24J Liberator: 9 damaged Japanese ground losses: 80 casualties reported Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 182 Admiral Mitscher' Fast Carrier TF 58 worked over Japanese shipping off Tinian: Day Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 62,65 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 F6F Hellcat x 20 TBM Avenger x 34 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Japanese Ships PC PC-2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AP Kashiwara Maru AP Hikawa Maru AP Ayato Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PC Kurahashi Japanese ground losses: 30 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Day Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 62,65 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 12 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 3 damaged Japanese Ships PC PC-2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PC Nomi, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 62,65 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 10 F4U-1 Corsair x 8 F4U-1D Corsair x 3 TBM Avenger x 42 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 2 damaged Japanese Ships PC PC-2, on fire, heavy damage AP Ayato Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AP Kashiwara Maru PC Nomi, on fire, heavy damage AP Hikawa Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage PC Kurahashi Japanese ground losses: 138 casualties reported Guns lost 8 and off Saipan: Day Air attack on TF, near Saipan at 63,64 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 F6F Hellcat x 25 TBM Avenger x 12 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Yae Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage SEAC: SEAC troops continued to reduce the Japanese pocket at Georgetown killing another 3500 IJA: Ground combat at Georgetown Allied Shock attack Attacking force 132007 troops, 879 guns, 977 vehicles Defending force 21465 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 169 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 3564 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Allied ground losses: 469 casualties reported Guns lost 14 Vehicles lost 1 [image]local://upfiles/14495/0728BD9E0434421B9CBEBE0B9F12693F.jpg[/image]

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/28/2005 5:47:23 AM)
SITUATION REPORT: 3-6-44 MARIANAS CAMPAIGN...INVASION OF GUAM: D-DAY The invasion commenced with Allied Mine Warfare TFs beginning to clear out the massive minefields: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/06/44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1230 encounters mine field at Guam (62,66) Allied Ships MSW Caraquet MSW Bellechasse MSW Nipigon MSW Bungaree MSW Mildura MSW Strive MSW Oracle MSW Starling MSW Horsham MSW Cessnock MSW Arnidale MSW Kalgoorlie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1230 encounters mine field at Guam (62,66) Allied Ships MSW Caraquet MSW Bellechasse MSW Nipigon MSW Bungaree MSW Mildura MSW Strive MSW Oracle MSW Starling MSW Horsham MSW Cessnock MSW Arnidale MSW Kalgoorlie DD Nizam, Mine hits 1, on fire Then the Japanese 7th Division at Guam was worked over by both naval air: Day Air attack on 7th Division, at 62,66 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 27 F6F Hellcat x 5 Hellcat II x 5 F4U-1D Corsair x 2 TBM Avenger x 24 Avenger II x 8 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 37 casualties reported and land based air: Day Air attack on 7th Division, at 62,66 Allied aircraft PBY Catalina x 3 P-38J Lightning x 31 PB4Y Liberator x 27 B-24J Liberator x 152 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 382 casualties reported Guns lost 2 TF 58 finds more shipping off Saipan to interdict: Day Air attack on TF at 62,63 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 F6F Hellcat x 39 TBM Avenger x 28 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 4 damaged Japanese Ships AP Kashiwara Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage PC Kurahashi, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 62,63 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 F6F Hellcat x 37 TBM Avenger x 10 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AP Kashiwara Maru, on fire, heavy damage AP Hikawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Assault TF #1291 carrying SOPAC troops goes ashore: TF 1291 encounters mine field at Guam (62,66) TF 1291 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66 Allied Ships MSW Eland Dubois MSW Guysborough MSW Wasaga MSW Quatsino MSW Cairns MSW Tern MSW Rail MSW Turkey MSW Tumult MSW Token MSW Chief MSW Sage MSW Pursuit MSW Whyalla MSW Ararat MSW Pirie DD Isis DD Pope DD Sterett DD Edwards DD Barton DD Monssen DD Nicholson DD Alden DD McCalla AP Van Landsberge, Mine hits 1, on fire APD Overton APD Crosby APD Gregory DD Benham DD Hughes DD Pillsbury Allied ground losses: 5 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Coastal Guns at Guam, 62,66, firing at TF 1291 106 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships DD Monssen LST LST-452 CL Richmond DD Edwards DD Laffey Japanese ground losses: 2 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 2994 casualties reported Curiously, Assault TF 1292 carrying CENTPAC troops decides to refuel 120 miles east of Guam missing D-Day all together. The Japanese response is muted as SOPAC puts 25,000 troops ashore: Ground combat at Guam Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 10260 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles Defending force 25364 troops, 311 guns, 63 vehicles SEAC: The naval bombers based out of Saigon continue to interdict Japanese transport TFs in the South China Sea: Day Air attack on TF at 27,54 Allied aircraft Beaufighter Mk 21 x 14 Allied aircraft losses Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Syozin Maru AK Ryuzin Maru AK Onoe Maru AK Nitiran Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Day Air attack on TF at 27,54 Allied aircraft Beaufighter VIC x 10 Beaufighter Mk 21 x 14 B-25J Mitchell x 8 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Onoe Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire AK Nitiran Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire AK Ryuzin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire AK Syozin Maru An Allied shock attack at Georgetown reduces the Japanese pocket by another 10,000 troops: Ground combat at Georgetown Allied Shock attack Attacking force 131810 troops, 869 guns, 977 vehicles Defending force 17532 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 116 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 10804 casualties reported Guns lost 9 Allied ground losses: 432 casualties reported Guns lost 5 The end is near in Georgetown. [image]local://upfiles/14495/8C719798ADC74FFA90ABC70F08C15067.jpg[/image]

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/28/2005 6:32:26 AM)
SITUATION REPORT: 3-7-44 MARIANAS CAMPAIGN...INVASION OF GUAM The CENTPAC troops aboard TF 1292 finally show up at Guam a day late for the invasion. Over 70 Allied MSWs are trying to clear the minefields around Guam but by the end of the day DD Nizam falls victim to the mines: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/07/44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1291 encounters mine field at Guam (62,66) TF 1291 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66 Allied Ships MSW Eland Dubois MSW Guysborough MSW Wasaga MSW Quatsino MSW Cairns MSW Tern MSW Rail MSW Turkey MSW Tumult MSW Token MSW Chief MSW Sage MSW Pursuit MSW Whyalla MSW Ararat MSW Pirie DD Alden DD Barton DD Monssen AP Van Landsberge, Mine hits 4, on fire, heavy damage APD Gregory DD Duncan DD Laffey APD Overton DD Hughes APD Crosby DD McCalla DD Nicholson DD Pillsbury DD Edwards DD Isis Allied ground losses: 84 casualties reported Coastal Guns at Guam, 62,66, firing at TF 1291 69 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships DD Laffey DD Duncan CL Richmond Allied ground losses: 263 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1230 encounters mine field at Guam (62,66) Allied Ships MSW Caraquet MSW Bellechasse MSW Nipigon MSW Bungaree MSW Mildura MSW Strive MSW Oracle MSW Starling MSW Horsham MSW Cessnock MSW Arnidale MSW Kalgoorlie DD Fox DD Nizam, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Mine Warfare TF 1275 somehow strays into the coastal guns at Tinian while attempting to clear minefields at Guam: TF 1275 encounters mine field at Tinian (62,65) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 398 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships MSW Courtenay, Shell hits 28, on fire, heavy damage MSW Lockeport, Shell hits 26, on fire, heavy damage MSW Ungava, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage MSW Lark, Shell hits 34, on fire, heavy damage MSW Vigilance, Shell hits 31, on fire, heavy damage MSW Motive, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage MSW Impeccable MSW Herald, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage MSW Swallow, Shell hits 1, on fire MSW Wollongong MSW Wagga, Shell hits 30, on fire, heavy damage MSW Strahan, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage MSW Lithgow, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage Meanwhile, MSWs continue to clear minefields at Guam: TF 1292 encounters mine field at Guam (62,66) Allied Ships MSW Robin MSW Townsville MSW Penguin MSW Oriole MSW Buoyant MSW Saunter MSW Salute MSW Triumph MSW Sheldrake MSW Competent MSW Prevail MSW Spear MSW Revenge MSW Requisite MSW Lismore MSW Gladstone MSW Echuca MSW Dubbo MSW Cootamundra DMS Howard DMS Palmer DMS Dorsey DMS Southard DD Caldwell DD Halligan AP Van Neck, Mine hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 15 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1136 encounters mine field at Guam (62,66) Allied Ships DMS Hamilton DD Aulick, Mine hits 1, on fire DD Abbot Now the 2 brand new Iowa Class BBs....BB New Jersey and BB Iowa employ their 16"/50 main batteries for the 1st time by bombarding Guam: Naval bombardment of Guam, at 62,66 Allied Ships CA Vincennes CL Marblehead CL Perth CA Pittsburgh CA Baltimore CA San Francisco CA Louisville CA Houston BB New Jersey BB Iowa BB Massachusetts Japanese ground losses: 258 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 48 Port hits 19 Port supply hits 15 Guam's coastal guns continue to fire as 65,000 Allied troops make it ashore by the end of the 2nd day: Coastal Guns at Guam, 62,66, firing at TF 1291 TF 1291 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66 Allied Ships DD Duncan Allied ground losses: 21 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Guam, 62,66, firing at TF 1292 TF 1292 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66 68 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships DD Caldwell Allied ground losses: 1777 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Vehicles lost 1 Task Force 58 finds more shipping for target practice off Tinian: Day Air attack on TF at 62,61 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 7 F6F Hellcat x 121 SB2C Helldiver x 71 TBM Avenger x 11 No Allied losses Japanese Ships PC Nomi, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage AP Kashiwara Maru, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage SEAC: 18,000 IJA are killed as the Georgetown pocket is liquidated. After losing nearly 40,000 troops at Georgetown the back of the Japanese defense in Malaya is nearly broken. [image]local://upfiles/14495/6EA7881A97FF4BD093B82AEE3078E629.jpg[/image]

Belphegor -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/28/2005 6:38:01 AM)
I missed that part. I wondered why your minesweepers were suddenly sinking all over the place. quote: TF 1275 encounters mine field at Tinian (62,65) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 398 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships MSW Courtenay, Shell hits 28, on fire, heavy damage MSW Lockeport, Shell hits 26, on fire, heavy damage MSW Ungava, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage MSW Lark, Shell hits 34, on fire, heavy damage MSW Vigilance, Shell hits 31, on fire, heavy damage MSW Motive, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage MSW Impeccable MSW Herald, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage MSW Swallow, Shell hits 1, on fire MSW Wollongong MSW Wagga, Shell hits 30, on fire, heavy damage MSW Strahan, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage MSW Lithgow, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/28/2005 7:24:29 AM)
SITUATION REPORT: 3-8-44....GREAT MARIANAS TURKEY SHOOT Evidently, the Japanese partially repaired the airfield at Saipan and staged in several hundred aircraft to mount their largest kamikaze attack of the war. In coodination with the massive kamikaze strikes, a powerful surface TF built around BB Yamato, BB Musashi and BB Ise sortied to the Marianas to attempt to intercept the Allied transports unloading off Guam. Fast Carrier TF 58 was under a rain squall for the entire day and not only was not spotted by the kamikaze pilots but was unable to launch any offensive strikes on the BBs or provide LRCAP to support the invasion forces at Guam for most of the day. Instead the invasion forces covered by 15 CVEs were spotted and targeted by the multiple kamakaze waves and over 230 Japanese planes were shot down: Day Air attack on TF, near Guam at 62,66 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 13 A6M5 Zeke x 23 J2M Jack x 32 Ki-21 Sally x 19 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 117 F6F Hellcat x 7 Hellcat II x 9 F4U-1 Corsair x 51 F4U-1D Corsair x 19 P-38J Lightning x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 13 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 21 destroyed J2M Jack: 31 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 19 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged Hellcat II: 1 damaged F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged Day Air attack on TF, near Guam at 62,66 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 26 D4Y Judy x 6 G4M2 Betty x 3 Ki-21 Sally x 3 Ki-48 Lily x 7 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 114 F6F Hellcat x 7 Hellcat II x 9 F4U-1 Corsair x 49 F4U-1D Corsair x 17 P-38J Lightning x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 26 destroyed D4Y Judy: 6 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed Ki-48 Lily: 7 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 2 damaged Hellcat II: 1 destroyed F4U-1 Corsair: 3 damaged Day Air attack on TF, near Guam at 62,66 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 21 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 114 F6F Hellcat x 56 Hellcat II x 8 F4U-1 Corsair x 49 F4U-1D Corsair x 17 P-38J Lightning x 1 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 21 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 6 damaged F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 5 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Guam at 62,66 Japanese aircraft Ki-48 Lily x 18 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 114 F6F Hellcat x 101 Hellcat II x 8 F4U-1 Corsair x 48 F4U-1D Corsair x 17 P-38J Lightning x 1 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-48 Lily: 18 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 3 damaged F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged Day Air attack on TF, near Guam at 62,66 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 3 J2M Jack x 4 Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 32 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 8 FM-2 Wildcat x 114 F6F Hellcat x 121 Hellcat II x 8 F4U-1 Corsair x 48 F4U-1D Corsair x 17 P-38J Lightning x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed J2M Jack: 4 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 32 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed Multiple Allied Bombardment TFs pound Guam while the coastal guns continue to fire back: Coastal Guns at Guam, 62,66, firing at TF 1292 TF 1292 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66 62 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships LCI(G) LCI-64 DD Halligan, Shell hits 1 DD Jenkins CL Sumatra Allied ground losses: 1858 casualties reported Vehicles lost 5 Naval bombardment of Guam, at 62,66 Allied Ships CA Concord CL Glasgow CL Leander CA Australia CA Boston CA Wichita CA Astoria CA Northampton BB Alabama BB Indiana BB South Dakota BB Washington Japanese ground losses: 387 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 113 Port hits 22 Port supply hits 25 Naval bombardment of Guam, at 62,66 Allied Ships CA Hobart CL Newcastle CL Emerald CL Java CA Frobisher CA Hawkins CA Cornwall CA Devonshire CA Sussex CA Shropshire BC Renown BB Royal Sovereign BB Queen Elizabeth BB Prince of Wales Japanese ground losses: 340 casualties reported Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 96 Port hits 17 Port supply hits 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Coastal Guns at Guam, 62,66, firing at TF 1292 TF 1292 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 62,66 43 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships DD Jenkins CL Sumatra CL Raleigh Allied ground losses: 1065 casualties reported Land based bombers continue to work over the defenders on Guam: Day Air attack on 7th Division, at 62,66 Allied aircraft PBY Catalina x 3 P-38J Lightning x 27 PB4Y Liberator x 30 B-24J Liberator x 163 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 214 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Day Air attack on 7th Division, at 62,66 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 12 F-5C Lightning x 2 B-25C Mitchell x 42 B-25J Mitchell x 177 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 105 casualties reported With over 100,000 troops ashore the Allies order a shock attack and capture the base: Ground combat at Guam Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 9885 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles Defending force 102760 troops, 1088 guns, 568 vehicles -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Guam Allied Shock attack Attacking force 99440 troops, 1088 guns, 568 vehicles Defending force 11734 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 7) Allied forces CAPTURE Guam base !!! Japanese ground losses: 956 casualties reported Guns lost 11 Allied ground losses: 789 casualties reported Guns lost 19 Vehicles lost 8 Admiral Spruance calculates that the powerful Japanese surface TF with the super battleships Yamato and Musashi will retreat since they have been detected and so consequently orders Admiral Mitschers' Task Force 58 due north at full speed in an attempt to intercept tomorrow. [image]local://upfiles/14495/85C5EE2261F348D1AC99CE8A54A9D859.jpg[/image]

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/28/2005 4:57:14 PM)
SITUATION REPORT: 3-9-44 MARIANAS CAMPAIGN....THE END OF BB MUSASHI Fast Carrier TF 58 races north and catches the retreating Japanese BBs. A massive naval strike is launched but BB Yamato and BB Ise slip under a rain squall just before the bombers arrive. BB Musashi and BB Haruna suffer the full fury of the strike: Day Air attack on TF at 64,57 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 F6F Hellcat x 108 SB2C Helldiver x 182 TBF Avenger x 13 TBM Avenger x 131 No Allied losses Japanese Ships BB Musashi, Bomb hits 20, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage BB Haruna sinks quickly but BB Musashi remains afloat to absorb incredible punishment. Finally after taking 20 direct hits with 1000 lb bombs and 6 torpedoes, BB Musashi rolls over and slides beneath the surface taking all hands with her. Day Air attack on TF at 64,57 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 TBM Avenger x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships BB Musashi, on fire, heavy damage Allied heavy bombers seek retribution for yesterdays kamikaze attack by pounding the airfields at Saigon: Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 19 PB4Y Liberator x 33 B-24J Liberator x 206 Japanese aircraft losses J2M Jack: 15 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 20 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 6 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 4 destroyed A6M2-N Rufe: 3 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 7 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 6 damaged Japanese ground losses: 330 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Airbase hits 26 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 216 Additional heavy bombers work over a troop transport TF off Saipan: Day Air attack on TF, near Saipan at 63,64 Allied aircraft PB4Y Liberator x 12 B-24J Liberator x 41 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AP Daigen Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AP Fusemi Maru, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage AP Burisuben Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage AP Daifuku Maru AP Bokuyo Maru, Bomb hits 1 AP Chicago Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AP Chihaya Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire AP Batavia Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire AP Buenos Aires Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire Japanese ground losses: 621 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Meanwhile the ground battle rages on on Guam: Ground combat at Guam Allied Shock attack Attacking force 100366 troops, 1082 guns, 559 vehicles Defending force 11261 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 61 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 748 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 801 casualties reported Guns lost 32 Vehicles lost 11 [image]local://upfiles/14495/1B7A38F361FF4B189E3CED5BC260FFA7.jpg[/image]

Bradley7735 -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/28/2005 5:15:03 PM)
Thanks for keeping up this AAR. It's almost like a great novel.

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/29/2005 7:04:44 AM)
Bradley....thanks for your comments. This AAR is more an "Action" report than a "Strategy" report since both sides are using it. Belphegor and I are both having a great time with it. SITUATION REPORT: 3-10-44 MARIANAS CAMPAIGN...BATTLE FOR GUAM The fast carriers of TF 58 race back south in an attempt to intercept the increasingly large numbers of Japanese transports heading towards Saipan and Tinian .....evidently a full scale IJN operation is under way to reinforce the Marianas. unfortunately, TF 58 is again hidden in a rain squall and misses most of the action. Allied subs and surface ships are sent to Saipan to intercept the transports. An Allied sub finds some prey there: Sub attack near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships AP Heiwa Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS S-23 Japanese ground losses: 29 casualties reported Guns lost 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Saipan at 63,64 Japanese Ships AK Kenkon Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Allied Ships SS S-23 Japanese ground losses: 63 casualties reported ....but the RN Surface TF sent to Saipan finds only a minefield: TF 1182 encounters mine field at Saipan (63,64) Allied Ships DD Vampire CA Shropshire, Mine hits 1 Japanese ground losses: 149 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied land based air locates and attacks the transports: Day Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 62,65 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 3 PB4Y Liberator x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Kiyoshima Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 34 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Day Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 62,65 Allied aircraft PB4Y Liberator x 7 B-24J Liberator x 22 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Reiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire AK Katsukawa Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Taikei Maru, Bomb hits 1 AK Teisen Maru AP Taijima Maru AP Nissho Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire AK Taiko Maru #3 AK Fukuyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Japanese ground losses: 215 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Day Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 62,65 Allied aircraft PB4Y Liberator x 3 B-24J Liberator x 2 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Enju Maru AP Daifuku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Allied land based air also works over the kamakaze groups based at Saipan: Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 3 PB4Y Liberator x 14 B-24J Liberator x 111 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 10 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 6 destroyed J2M Jack: 9 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 6 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed A6M2-N Rufe: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 97 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 14 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 95 and the IJA 7th Division at Guam: Day Air attack on 7th Division, at 62,66 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 12 F-5C Lightning x 2 B-25C Mitchell x 40 B-25J Mitchell x 188 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 80 casualties reported The Allies continue to wear down the Japanese ground forces at Guam: Ground combat at Guam Allied Shock attack Attacking force 99510 troops, 1061 guns, 558 vehicles Defending force 9226 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 189 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 983 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 463 casualties reported Guns lost 20 Vehicles lost 1 SEAC: SEAC troops led by their armored spearhead easily push aside the IJA roadblock at Kuala Lampur and continue to race south towards Singapore: Ground combat at Kuala Lumpur Allied Shock attack Attacking force 80470 troops, 601 guns, 508 vehicles Defending force 2921 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 3368 to 1 (fort level 1) Allied forces CAPTURE Kuala Lumpur base !!! Japanese ground losses: 1083 casualties reported Guns lost 8 Allied ground losses: 160 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/29/2005 7:30:24 AM)
SITUATION REPORT: 3-11-44 THE GREAT MARIANAS TRANSPORT SHOOT Evidently the massive kamikaze and surface TF intervention by the IJN were meant to cover an even larger IJA transport reinforcement operation of the Mariana Islands. While the USN CVs raced north to pummel the IJN BBs, the IJN transports were heading south towards Saipan and Tinian....opposed only by Allied land based air. ALL USN CVs, CVLs and CVEs were now ordered to strike the scores of transports and the RN BB TF was ordered to Tinian where a series of surface actions continued throughout the night: Night Time Surface Combat, near Tinian at 62,65 Japanese Ships AP Hakozaki Maru, Shell hits 49, and is sunk AP Fukko Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales BB Queen Elizabeth BB Royal Sovereign BC Renown CA Shropshire CA Sussex CA Devonshire CA Cornwall, Shell hits 1 CA Hawkins CA Frobisher CL Java CL Newcastle CA Hobart DD Gillespie DD Vampire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Tinian at 62,65 Japanese Ships AK Kenkon Maru, Shell hits 5, and is sunk AK Chile Maru, Shell hits 29, and is sunk AP Heito Maru, Shell hits 17, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales BB Queen Elizabeth BB Royal Sovereign, Shell hits 1 BC Renown CA Shropshire CA Sussex CA Devonshire CA Cornwall CA Hawkins CA Frobisher CL Java CL Newcastle CA Hobart DD Gillespie DD Vampire Japanese ground losses: 186 casualties reported Guns lost 10 Night Time Surface Combat, near Tinian at 62,65 Japanese Ships AP Heiwa Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AP Huso Maru, Shell hits 36, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk AP Kiyoshima Maru, Shell hits 47, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales BB Queen Elizabeth BB Royal Sovereign BC Renown CA Shropshire CA Sussex CA Devonshire CA Cornwall CA Hawkins CA Frobisher CL Java CL Newcastle CA Hobart DD Gillespie DD Vampire Japanese ground losses: 27 casualties reported Night Time Surface Combat, near Tinian at 62,65 Japanese Ships AK China Maru AK Clyde Maru, on fire AP Kitano Maru, Shell hits 20, and is sunk AK Naples Maru, on fire AP Nissho Maru, Shell hits 25, and is sunk AK Menado Maru AK Bisaku Maru, Shell hits 10, and is sunk AP Taijima Maru, on fire AK Tsukuba Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire AK Sansho Maru, on fire, heavy damage AK Shino Maru, Shell hits 1 AK Naruo Maru AK Junpo Maru, Shell hits 13, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales BB Queen Elizabeth BB Royal Sovereign BC Renown CA Shropshire CA Sussex CA Devonshire CA Cornwall CA Hawkins CA Frobisher CL Java CL Newcastle CA Hobart DD Gillespie DD Vampire Japanese ground losses: 24 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Night Time Surface Combat, near Tinian at 62,65 Japanese Ships AP Burisuben Maru, Shell hits 9, and is sunk AP Hakuyo Maru, Shell hits 44, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales BB Queen Elizabeth BB Royal Sovereign BC Renown CA Shropshire CA Sussex CA Devonshire CA Cornwall CA Hawkins CA Frobisher CL Java CL Newcastle CA Hobart DD Gillespie DD Vampire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Tinian at 62,65 Japanese Ships AK Kenkoku Maru, Shell hits 63, and is sunk AK Minato Maru, Shell hits 61, and is sunk AK Kakuzan Maru, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk AK Taikei Maru, Shell hits 14, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales BB Queen Elizabeth BB Royal Sovereign BC Renown CA Shropshire CA Sussex, Shell hits 1 CA Devonshire CA Cornwall CA Hawkins, Shell hits 1 CA Frobisher CL Java CL Newcastle CA Hobart DD Gillespie DD Vampire Night Time Surface Combat, near Tinian at 62,65 Japanese Ships AK Koho Maru, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage AK Katsukawa Maru, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AK Reikai Maru, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk AK Tsurushima Maru, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales BB Queen Elizabeth BB Royal Sovereign BC Renown CA Shropshire CA Sussex CA Devonshire CA Cornwall, Shell hits 1 CA Hawkins CA Frobisher CL Java CL Newcastle CA Hobart DD Gillespie DD Vampire Night Time Surface Combat, near Tinian at 62,65 Japanese Ships AK Kinmo Maru, Shell hits 48, and is sunk AK Rokkosan Maru, Shell hits 30, and is sunk AK Oita Maru AK Shinshu Maru, Shell hits 1 AK Bunzan Maru, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales BB Queen Elizabeth, Shell hits 2 BB Royal Sovereign BC Renown CA Shropshire CA Sussex CA Devonshire CA Cornwall CA Hawkins CA Frobisher CL Java CL Newcastle CA Hobart DD Gillespie DD Vampire Night Time Surface Combat, near Tinian at 62,65 Japanese Ships AK Horei Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire AK Narita Maru AK Teisen Maru, Shell hits 37, and is sunk AK Arisan Maru, Shell hits 2 AK Misaki Maru, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales BB Queen Elizabeth BB Royal Sovereign, Shell hits 1 BC Renown CA Shropshire CA Sussex CA Devonshire CA Cornwall CA Hawkins CA Frobisher CL Java, Shell hits 1 CL Newcastle CA Hobart DD Gillespie DD Vampire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Tinian at 62,65 Japanese Ships AK Nissyo Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire AP Reiyo Maru, Shell hits 47, and is sunk AP Sanko Maru, Shell hits 22, and is sunk AK Thames Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales BB Queen Elizabeth BB Royal Sovereign BC Renown CA Shropshire CA Sussex CA Devonshire CA Cornwall CA Hawkins CA Frobisher CL Java CL Newcastle CA Hobart 23 Japanese APs and AKs sink during the night. As dawn arrives, the Allied naval and land based bombers gather to continue hammering the transports: Day Air attack on TF at 62,64 Allied aircraft SB2C Helldiver x 124 TBM Avenger x 118 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AP Taijima Maru, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Sansho Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK China Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Clyde Maru, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Shino Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Menado Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Naples Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Naruo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Tsukuba Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 31 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Day Air attack on TF at 62,64 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 2 TBM Avenger x 8 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Clyde Maru, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 62,64 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 3 TBM Avenger x 8 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Menado Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 62,64 Allied aircraft SB2C Helldiver x 20 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Menado Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 62,64 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 F6F Hellcat x 31 SB2C Helldiver x 14 TBM Avenger x 14 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Bunzan Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 63,65 Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Tsurushima Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 62,65 Allied aircraft PB4Y Liberator x 6 B-24J Liberator x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Oita Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Day Air attack on TF at 62,64 Allied aircraft PB4Y Liberator x 3 B-24J Liberator x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Misaki Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Horei Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire Day Air attack on TF at 62,64 Allied aircraft SB2C Helldiver x 27 TBM Avenger x 12 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Thames Maru, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 62,65 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 45 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Batavia Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage AP Buenos Aires Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 62,65 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 18 B-24J Liberator x 10 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Sanwa Maru, on fire AK Taiko Maru #3, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage AK Noborikawa Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire Day Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 62,65 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 12 B-24J Liberator x 18 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Risen Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage AK Eizan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire AK Fukuyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Chosen Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 62,64 Allied aircraft SB2C Helldiver x 17 TBF Avenger x 12 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Nissyo Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 62,65 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 38 F6F Hellcat x 3 Hellcat II x 2 F4U-1D Corsair x 18 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Shinshu Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 66,66 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 FM-2 Wildcat x 29 F6F Hellcat x 36 Hellcat II x 1 F4U-1D Corsair x 6 SB2C Helldiver x 185 TBF Avenger x 12 TBM Avenger x 192 Allied aircraft losses SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AP Chicago Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage AP Enju Maru, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AP Bokuyo Maru, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AP Daigen Maru, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AP Chihaya Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AP Daifuku Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AP Fusemi Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 66,66 Allied aircraft FM-2 Wildcat x 4 TBM Avenger x 4 Avenger II x 8 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Daifuku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Day Air attack on TF at 66,66 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 6 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AP Daifuku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Another 22 Japanese transports sink throughout the day and many more will continue to sink over the next few days. Interestingly, the P-38s drop 1000lb bombs while the Corsairs and the heavy bombers drop 500 lb bombs. Ground combat on Guam is again inconclusive but the airfield there is now operational: Ground combat at Guam Allied Shock attack Attacking force 100008 troops, 1058 guns, 569 vehicles Defending force 7671 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles Allied assault odds: 260 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 641 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 254 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Vehicles lost 4 [image]local://upfiles/14495/401338EEC2E544F0B28535009A03EB2D.jpg[/image]

Belphegor -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/29/2005 3:50:27 PM)
My surface combat TF was there for two reasons: 1. To try to disrupt the landings on guam 2. To distract the Allies from the approaching transport TFs. I knew there would be casualties. It was painful to see all 4 battleships of the surface TF lost without even coming close to scoring any hits. I thought they might make it in under cover of the bad weather; making it out would have been difficult and I knew that. In the event they were discovered just prior to making their attack run, bombed and forced to turn back. They did succeed beyond my wildest dreams in mission 2 however. 73 IJN transports loaded with 2 full strength Bdes + some other things were missed in the bad weather and the pursuit of my surface forces. These transports were loaded lightly so they could completely unload in one phase (all the leeway I expected to get), I lost very little coming in and even the scores of bombers overhead had so many targets that no ship suffered fatal damage prior to unloading. It was short lived however. Once discovered the response, as I expected, was overwhelming. I lost every transport sent to surface forces redirected from Guam, and to constant air attack... but they had their one phase of unloading and 95% of them were empty when sunk. Was it worth it? I certainly hope so. I sacrificed a lot of naval power to get those needed troops there. We shall see in the coming month or so if they will cost the Allied player in time as well as casualties to take Tinian and Saipan.

Capt. Harlock -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/29/2005 10:37:44 PM)
quote: 73 IJN transports loaded with 2 full strength Bdes + some other things were missed in the bad weather and the pursuit of my surface forces. These transports were loaded lightly so they could completely unload in one phase (all the leeway I expected to get), I lost very little coming in and even the scores of bombers overhead had so many targets that no ship suffered fatal damage prior to unloading. That explains why so few Japanese troops were lost when the transports were hit. Nice move!

Belphegor -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (9/30/2005 5:50:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock quote: 73 IJN transports loaded with 2 full strength Bdes + some other things were missed in the bad weather and the pursuit of my surface forces. These transports were loaded lightly so they could completely unload in one phase (all the leeway I expected to get), I lost very little coming in and even the scores of bombers overhead had so many targets that no ship suffered fatal damage prior to unloading. That explains why so few Japanese troops were lost when the transports were hit. Nice move! Thanks. It cost a lot, but hopefully it was a good investment.

Belphegor -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (10/1/2005 7:57:42 PM)
I was fortunate today. I snuck some Kamikazes back to Saipan and managed to find a small TF transporting an HQ unit to Guam or Palau... the combination of regular attack and Kamikaze had the defenders confused, letting both get through... no air cover to be seen. 2 ships sunk outright; the DE and a transport, with the other two limping to port. Unfortunately I didn't get the whole convoy, but it is the first successful Kamikaze attack this game.

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (10/2/2005 4:19:28 AM)
SITUATION REPORT: 3-21-44 MARIANAS CAMPAIGN....GUAM SECURED After a week of heavy fighting the last Japanese stragglers are mopped up on Guam. Several convoys of Seabees and supplies were immediately sent to Guam to build up the bases. Consecutive days of poor weather grounded the USAAF and Japanese engineers were able to reopen the airfield on Saipan. Kamikaze squadrons were staged into Saipan and have been wreaking havoc with Allied transports. The USAAF is back at work trying to suppress the airfields on Saipan and Tinian: Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 1 A6M5c Zeke x 1 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 37 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed A6M5c Zeke: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft PB4Y Liberator x 24 B-24J Liberator x 183 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged B-24J Liberator: 12 damaged Japanese ground losses: 177 casualties reported Guns lost 8 Airbase hits 56 Airbase supply hits 14 Runway hits 355 Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65 Allied aircraft Mosquito PR.IX x 4 F-5A Lightning x 4 F-5C Lightning x 7 PB4Y Liberator x 33 B-24J Liberator x 9 Allied aircraft losses Mosquito PR.IX: 1 damaged F-5C Lightning: 1 damaged PB4Y Liberator: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Airbase hits 2 The IJN lost 4 BBs and over 60 transports in an attempt to reinforce the Marianas. In February there were fewer than 20,000 troops on Tinian but now there are over 64,000 troops. Even more troops are entrenched on Saipan so CENTPAC and SOPAC forces have a bloody road in front of them. SEAC: Seac troops rushed down the entire length of the Malay peninsula to rout the IJA out of Johore Bharu. The Allied forces charged across the causeway to Singapore in pursuit of the Japanese but have suffered heavy casualties in consective shock attacks. In conjuction with the ground assaults the RAF has been pounding the defenses of Singapore: Day Air attack on 42nd Naval Guard Unit, at 23,50 Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 26 Allied aircraft Thunderbolt II x 14 Vengeance I x 54 P-40N Warhawk x 21 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 15 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Vengeance I: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged P-40N Warhawk: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 41 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Day Air attack on 43rd Division, at 23,50 Japanese aircraft Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 11 Allied aircraft Beaufighter VIC x 38 P-40N Warhawk x 21 B-25J Mitchell x 52 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-40N Warhawk: 1 damaged B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 52 casualties reported Guns lost 10 Ground combat at Singapore Allied Shock attack Attacking force 156907 troops, 857 guns, 1104 vehicles Defending force 59782 troops, 281 guns, 108 vehicles Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4) Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3 Japanese ground losses: 1699 casualties reported Guns lost 28 Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 2934 casualties reported Guns lost 44 Vehicles lost 5 SWPAC: Allied naval bombers based at Weda/Wasile in the DEI fight their way through CAP of 22 Zekes to land 5 bombs on CVE Unyo leaving her ablaze from stem to stern: Day Air attack on TF at 37,61 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 22 Allied aircraft Beaufighter Mk 21 x 35 P-40N Warhawk x 21 PB4Y Liberator x 8 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Beaufighter Mk 21: 9 destroyed, 6 damaged P-40N Warhawk: 1 damaged PB4Y Liberator: 3 damaged Japanese Ships CVE Unyo, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage AO Iro APD APD-1 [image]local://upfiles/14495/9CCB3481B5904A16ABAACD402A4D3EDD.jpg[/image]

Belphegor -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (10/3/2005 1:08:10 AM)
Bypassed bases are sometimes still dangerous. After the success of Saipan kamikazes, Truk airfields become active again. 3 Allied ships, 2AKs, 1DD sunk off Truk. Bad weather prevents followup attacks in the afternoon. Everyone digs in for reprisals. Day Air attack on TF, near Emirau Island at 60,84 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 3 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Emirau Island at 60,84 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 7 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged Allied Ships MSW Warrnambool AK Empire Darwin, Torpedo hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 61,78 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 23 G4M2 Betty x 24 P1Y Frances x 12 H8K Emily x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged G4M2 Betty: 9 destroyed, 6 damaged P1Y Frances: 2 damaged H8K Emily: 3 destroyed Allied Ships AK Marcus Daly, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AK Christopher Greenup, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD LaVallette, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Josiah Snelling AK Carolinian AK Cape Constance AK Arkansan AK Henry S Grove DD Murray Aircraft Attacking: 3 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet 2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet 4 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet 4 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet 4 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet 3 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet 4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet [image]local://upfiles/11973/D3EE3A55D44B440C8FF793B3BA7083D0.jpg[/image]

Belphegor -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (10/4/2005 3:45:57 PM)
Another Kamikaze success, this one finds a troop convoy. I still haven't really done any damage to capital ships, but the practice is good. Day Air attack on TF, near Victoria Point at 25,39 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 8 Allied aircraft Spitfire VIII x 21 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Spitfire VIII: 2 damaged Allied Ships AK Samphill, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Johore Bahru at 22,49 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 12 Ki-21 Sally x 18 Ki-48 Lily x 4 Ki-46-III Dinah x 9 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 12 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 18 destroyed Ki-48 Lily: 4 destroyed Ki-46-III Dinah: 9 destroyed Allied Ships AK Samovar, Kamikaze hits 8, on fire, heavy damage AK Sambridge, Kamikaze hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Empire Dirk, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Samoa, Kamikaze hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AK Sampip, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 63 casualties reported Guns lost 4

Belphegor -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (10/7/2005 7:22:56 AM)
Singapore falls, I will soon have no safe transport routes for my resources and oil... The end is near.

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (10/7/2005 7:58:22 PM)
SITUATION REPORT: 4-11-44 MARIANAS CAMPAIGN The invasion of Tinian has been delayed due to massive Japanese reinforcement of the island in early March. Allied transports have been busy bringing up additional troops and supplies for the inevitable assault. Allied bombers from Ulithi, Palau and Guam have hitting the airfields at Saipan on a daily basis in an unsuccessful effort to keep the base closed while 3 bombardment TFs have been working over Tinian. Recon showed that the Japanese staged over 500 kamikaze aircraft into Saipan so a bombardment TF was ordered to rototill the airfield in a night bombardment: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/11/44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1038 encounters mine field at Saipan (63,64) Allied Ships DMS Zane BB Warspite, Mine hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Saipan, at 63,64 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 14 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 20 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 5 destroyed J2M Jack: 11 destroyed Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 9 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 9 destroyed Ki-48 Lily: 1 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 8 destroyed Allied Ships CL Mauritius CL Tromp CA Exeter CA Suffolk CA Quincy CA Salt Lake City CA Chicago CA Indianapolis BC Repulse BB Valiant BB Warspite BB Colorado Japanese ground losses: 9492 casualties reported Guns lost 80 Airbase hits 17 Airbase supply hits 8 Runway hits 228 Then every medium and heavy bomber in range was ordered to bomb the Saipan airfields: Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 8 F4U-1 Corsair x 6 F4U-1D Corsair x 16 P-38J Lightning x 19 B-25C Mitchell x 40 B-25J Mitchell x 267 PB4Y Liberator x 25 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 12 destroyed Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 4 destroyed J2M Jack: 2 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 185 casualties reported Airbase hits 22 Airbase supply hits 8 Runway hits 400 Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 30 PB4Y Liberator x 47 B-24J Liberator x 223 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 4 destroyed Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 2 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed J2M Jack: 1 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses PB4Y Liberator: 1 destroyed B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 207 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 38 Airbase supply hits 12 Runway hits 362 Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64 Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft F-5C Lightning x 10 PB4Y Liberator x 80 B-24J Liberator x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed J2M Jack: 1 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 23 casualties reported Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 117 Over 250 kamikaze AC are destroyed on the ground. Meanwhile, another bombardment TF pummels Tinian: Naval bombardment of Tinian, at 62,65 Allied Ships CA Hobart CL Newcastle CA Frobisher CA Hawkins CA Cornwall CA Devonshire CA Sussex CA Shropshire BC Renown BB Royal Sovereign BB Queen Elizabeth BB Prince of Wales Japanese ground losses: 924 casualties reported Guns lost 10 Airbase hits 4 Runway hits 48 Port hits 5 Port supply hits 1 The long awaited invasion of Tinain is now less than a week away. SEAC: Singapore is finally secured and another 65,000 Japanese troops are bagged. Bombers will now be staged into Singapore and a strategic bombing campaign will be launched to take out the oil production centers of the DEI. [image]local://upfiles/14495/E5EE51BE0F8F45758C35868E7E7E8DD0.jpg[/image]

Capt. Harlock -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (10/7/2005 10:18:06 PM)
quote: Allied Ships CL Mauritius CL Tromp CA Exeter CA Suffolk CA Quincy CA Salt Lake City CA Chicago CA Indianapolis BC Repulse BB Valiant BB Warspite BB Colorado Japanese ground losses: 9492 casualties reported Guns lost 80 Airbase hits 17 Airbase supply hits 8 Runway hits 228 Wow -- I don't think I've ever seen that level of casualties from bombardment before. And you didn't even use any of the modern 16" BB's! Did you set off an ammo dump?

Belphegor -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (10/8/2005 2:12:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock [ Wow -- I don't think I've ever seen that level of casualties from bombardment before. And you didn't even use any of the modern 16" BB's! Did you set off an ammo dump? Hard to find shelter on that crowded little Island. [;)] I look forward to his landing casualty lists..

racndoc -> RE: THEY WERE EXPENDABLE: Nagumo vs Spruance PBEM (10/9/2005 5:51:45 AM)
Capt. Harlock... Based on my previous experiences with bombardments, I think that the 1st bombardment of the hex produces the most casualties. Successive bombardments become increasingly ineffective. Notice my bombardment results for the current turn. I have seen previous Japanese bombardments in the AARs cause 9000 casualties...I think at Batavia and Soerabaja so I think that the casualty level may initially be partially based on the number of ground troops present in the hex. SITUATION REPORT: 4-16-44 MARIANAS CAMPAIGN ....INVASION OF TINIAN The first two operational B-29 groups arrive on the west coast of the US and immediately stage into Kwajalein. The invasion of Tinain had been put on hold for over a month due to the massive Japanese reinforcement of the island but now the immediate capture of airfields within B-29 range of Japan becomes imperative. A combined CENTPAC/SOPAC operation is launched against Tinian but in one of the largest SNAFU/FUBAR events of the war only the CENTPAC assault reaches Tinian today....SOPAC assault troops will reach tomorrow. The largest concentration of Allied warships and shipping to date concentrates in the Philippine Sea to both assault Tinain and resist the kamikaze groups: 9 CVs, 8 CVLs, 22 CVEs, 10 BBs, 2 BCs, 22 CAs and hundreds of support ships. ORDER OF BATTLE: 5TH FLEET ADMIRAL SPRUANCE FAST CARRIER TF 58 ADM MITSCHER TF 58.1 2 CV, 2 CVL TF 58.2 3 CV, 1 CVL TF 58.3 2 CV, 3 CVL TF 58.4 2 CV, 2 CVL BOMBARDMENT TF 48 ADMIRAL LEE TF 48.1 3 BB, 1 BC, 7 CA, 1 CL TF 48.2 3 BB, 1 BC, 6 CA, 2 CL TF 48.3 4 BB, 6 CA, 1 CL CARRIER ESCORT TF 1261 CPT DODD 6 CVE, 2 CL, 7 DD AMPHIBIOUS COMMAND AND ESCORT TF #1020 AGC MOUNT OLYMPUS w/ V AMPHIBIOUS FORCE RADM RK TURNER 9 CVE 1 CL 9 DD AMPHIBIOUS COMMAND AND ESCORT TF #1218 AGC ROCKY POINT w/ VII AMPHIBIOUS FORCE RADM D BARBEY 7 CVE 1 CLAA 10 DD AMPHIBIOUS ASSAULT TF 1291 ADM CONOLLY 1 CL, 13 DD, 11 MSW, 75 TRANSPORT AND ASSAULT SHIPS AMPHIBIOUS ASSAULT TF 1291 ADM DRAEMEL 2 CL, 6 DD, 4 DMS, 19 MSW, 69 ASSAULT AND TRANSPORT SHIPS AMPHIBIOUS ASSAULT TF 1010 CPT FLYNN 1 CL, 20 DD, 7 APD, 2 DE, 3 MSW, 67 TRANSPORT AND ASSAULT SHIPS ASSAULT FORCES: US ARMY XIV CORPS HQ MGEN THOMPSON US ARMY 38TH INFANTRY DIVISION US ARMY 93RD INFANTRY DIVISION US ARMY AMERICAL DIVISION US ARMY 43RD DIVISION USMC 1ST INFANTRY DIVISION USMC 3RD INFANTRY DIVISION US ARMY 34TH RCT US ARMY 153RD RCT US ARMY 111 RCT US ARMY 18TH ENGINEER REGIMENT US ARMY 138TH RCT US ARMY 147TH RCT USA 193RD TANK BN USMC 2ND ARMORED BN V USMC ARTILLERY REGIMENT US ARMY 30TH ART REGIMENT US ARMY 72ND ART REGIMENT US ARMY 40TH ART REGIMENT US ARMY 147TH ART REGIMENT USMC 2ND RAIDER BN USMC 1ST PARA BN USMC 1ST ARMORED BN The invasion of Tinian commenced with Allied warships entering the numerous minefields: AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/16/44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1038 encounters mine field at Tinian (62,65) Allied Ships DMS Zane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1095 encounters mine field at Tinian (62,65) Allied Ships MSW Agra MSW Wollongong MSW Bobolink MSW Grebe MSW Baroda MSW Impeccable MSW Igonish MSW Toowoomba MSW Quail MSW Zeal MSW Skylark MSW Kapunda DD Kilty DE Osterhaus DD Craven DD John D. Ford, Mine hits 1 Then the BBs commenced with a horrific bombardment: Naval bombardment of Tinian, at 62,65 Allied Ships CA Concord CL Glasgow CA Australia CA Boston CA Wichita CA Astoria CA Northampton BB Alabama BB Indiana BB South Dakota BB Washington Japanese ground losses: 221 casualties reported Guns lost 6 Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 31 Port hits 5 Port supply hits 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Tinian, at 62,65 Allied Ships CL Mauritius CL Tromp CA Exeter CA Suffolk CA Quincy CA Salt Lake City CA Chicago CA Indianapolis BC Repulse BB Valiant BB Warspite BB Colorado Japanese ground losses: 26 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Runway hits 53 Port hits 9 Port fuel hits 1 Port supply hits 3 Naval bombardment of Tinian, at 62,65 Allied Ships CA Hobart CL Newcastle CA Frobisher CA Hawkins CA Cornwall CA Devonshire CA Sussex CA Shropshire BC Renown BB Royal Sovereign BB Queen Elizabeth BB Prince of Wales Japanese ground losses: 63 casualties reported Guns lost 8 Airbase hits 6 Runway hits 67 Port hits 4 Port supply hits 3 Allied minesweeper TFs begin to clear the shipping lanes: TF 1230 encounters mine field at Tinian (62,65) Allied Ships MSW Caraquet MSW Bellechasse MSW Nipigon MSW Bungaree MSW Mildura MSW Tanager MSW Strive MSW Oracle MSW Heed MSW Starling MSW Horsham MSW Cessnock MSW Arnidale MSW Kalgoorlie DE Seid DD Rotherham DD Relentless DD Barker And the Allied assault TFs head towards the beaches: TF 1292 encounters mine field at Tinian (62,65) Allied Ships MSW Robin MSW Townsville MSW Penguin MSW Oriole MSW Buoyant MSW Saunter MSW Salute MSW Triumph MSW Sheldrake MSW Competent MSW Prevail MSW Spear MSW Revenge MSW Requisite MSW Lismore MSW Gladstone MSW Echuca MSW Dubbo MSW Cootamundra DMS Howard DMS Palmer DMS Dorsey DMS Southard DD Jenkins DD Chauncey AP J. Franklin Bell, Mine hits 1, on fire DD Wickes Allied ground losses: 8 casualties reported AMPHIBIOUS COMMAND AND ESCORT TF 1020 enters the minefields with AGC Mount Olympus striking a mine. Even though Mount Olympus is afire and taking on water, RADM Richmond Kelly Turner orders "Damn the mines and full speed ahead" to keep in position to direct the amphibious assault: TF 1020 encounters mine field at Tinian (62,65) Allied Ships DD Ingersoll DD Haraden DD Cogswell DD Capps DD Black AGC Mount Olympus, Mine hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 8 casualties reported The USN CVs launched their bombers to soften up the defenses: Day Air attack on 5th South Seas Det. , at 62,65 Allied aircraft SB2C Helldiver x 284 TBM Avenger x 127 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 75 casualties reported Guns lost 3 And then the land based bombers from Guam , Palau and Ulithi got into the act: Day Air attack on 48th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 62,65 Allied aircraft F4U-1D Corsair x 12 P-38J Lightning x 20 B-25C Mitchell x 25 B-25J Mitchell x 207 PB4Y Liberator x 26 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 116 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Day Air attack on 48th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 62,65 Allied aircraft PB4Y Liberator x 38 B-24J Liberator x 215 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 148 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Day Air attack on 48th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 62,65 Allied aircraft Mosquito PR.IX x 1 F-5A Lightning x 1 PB4Y Liberator x 36 B-24J Liberator x 34 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 14 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Day Air attack on 61st/C Division, at 62,65 Allied aircraft Mosquito PR.IX x 1 P-38J Lightning x 2 F-5A Lightning x 1 PB4Y Liberator x 31 B-24J Liberator x 14 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 6 casualties reported Guns lost 2 USN assault craft begin unloading on the beaches: TF 1026 encounters mine field at Tinian (62,65) TF 1026 troops unloading over beach at Tinian, 62,65 Allied Ships DE Fair DE Dempsey TF 1292 encounters mine field at Tinian (62,65) TF 1292 troops unloading over beach at Tinian, 62,65 Allied Ships MSW Robin MSW Townsville MSW Penguin MSW Oriole MSW Buoyant MSW Saunter MSW Salute MSW Triumph MSW Sheldrake MSW Competent MSW Prevail MSW Spear MSW Revenge MSW Requisite MSW Lismore MSW Gladstone MSW Echuca MSW Dubbo MSW Cootamundra DMS Howard DMS Palmer DMS Dorsey DMS Southard DD Jenkins DD Wickes DD Halligan AP Zealandia, Mine hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DD Caldwell Allied ground losses: 49 casualties reported Coastal Guns at Tinian, 62,65, firing at TF 1292 91 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CL Raleigh DD Jenkins DD Flusser, Shell hits 5 Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 1751 casualties reported Guns lost 1 With the communication SNAFU between SOPAC and CENTPAC only 31,000 troops make it ashore the 1st day but they easily hold off Japanese counterattacks: Ground combat at Tinian Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 27124 troops, 257 guns, 0 vehicles Defending force 31182 troops, 466 guns, 111 vehicles Allied ground losses: 12 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Meanwhile, Japanese kamikaze groups stage into Yap Island and work their way through ineffective Allied CAP to strike USN replenishment CVEs at Ulithi: Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67 Japanese aircraft Ki-46-III Dinah x 3 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 18 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-46-III Dinah: 3 destroyed Allied Ships LCT LCT-359 Day Air attack on TF, near Ulithi at 55,67 Japanese aircraft H8K Emily x 2 Ki-21 Sally x 21 Allied aircraft P-38J Lightning x 18 Japanese aircraft losses H8K Emily: 2 destroyed Ki-21 Sally: 21 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38J Lightning: 1 damaged Allied Ships CVE Breton, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CVE Barnes CVE Altamaha, Kamikaze hits 6, on fire, heavy damage SEAC: RAF bombers based at Singapore pound Japanese shipping and oil production facilities at Palembang: Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55 Allied aircraft Thunderbolt II x 12 P-40N Warhawk x 55 B-25J Mitchell x 85 Allied aircraft losses B-25J Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Oil hits 36 Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55 Allied aircraft P-40N Warhawk x 22 B-25J Mitchell x 12 Allied aircraft losses B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged Oil hits 9 Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55 Allied aircraft Thunderbolt II x 11 Blenheim IV x 20 Liberator VI x 72 Beaufort V-IX x 6 P-40N Warhawk x 22 B-24J Liberator x 17 Allied aircraft losses Liberator VI: 2 damaged Japanese Ships PG Tamo Maru #6, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage PG Zuiko Maru, Bomb hits 17, on fire, heavy damage AK Namba Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage Port hits 5 Port fuel hits 3 Port supply hits 7 Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55 Allied aircraft Beaufighter VIC x 12 P-40N Warhawk x 20 Allied aircraft losses Beaufighter VIC: 2 damaged Japanese Ships PG Tamo Maru #6, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage [image]local://upfiles/14495/03D19674A6874E9CB384F841786AA83F.jpg[/image]

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