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RE: I just don't understand land combat - 12/27/2005 3:54:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Feinder

Or they could just include (at least) the adjusted odds in the combat report. THAT isn't hard. If you really want to see the status of the individual units, you can sit thru the replay. But just adding the base/adjusted for each side to to combat report would be VERY useful.

But it's not like that hasn't been asked before.

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Along with the land search results in the ops file. You know, the report of how many enemy planes came up to meet your search planes.

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RE: I just don't understand land combat - 12/27/2005 4:06:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is the thread from WPO forum. Guess the same might be applied to WITP as well...

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1017768



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RE: I just don't understand land combat - 12/27/2005 5:00:36 PM   
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I have "HypersnapDX" program that takes screenshots when I press certain key (my choice).

Thus, after land combat I have few pictures instead of move (I take pictures when data on screen changes). I know that this is more troublesome than Oleg's move but it is 1000x smaller and easier to analyze...



Yes but your method requires you to be present and actually watch the screen waiting for the allmighty "adjusted assault value". Whole idea (for me) is not to have to wait, to go somewhere while the battle goes on and analyse the AVI later

Anyway, I can't remember the name of the applet I use, as I am on the road with my laptop and don't have it installed here, sorry... There are several nice free applications that will capture your screen and make AVIs....

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RE: I just don't understand land combat - 12/27/2005 5:21:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just do it like Mac Oleg......tell your subordinates to succeed or don't bother coming back.

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RE: I just don't understand land combat - 12/27/2005 9:40:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		The fact that the assult odds are hidden is one of the worst features.

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RE: I just don't understand land combat - 12/27/2005 10:32:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		After someone offered to pay Matrix $1000, Matrix promised to unhide the assault odds in War Plan Orange:

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RE: I just don't understand land combat - 12/28/2005 5:03:37 AM   
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Hi, The poor game catches if from both directions. People say it is too fast but when 50,000 troops don't just all die in one day the system is also questioned.
If you have 200,000 versus 50,000 I'm willing to bet your not actually losing 5,000 for 1000 (your getting disabled while Chinese are getting killed)
In the combat report troops who disabled are listed as casualties but they return to combat status in a day or two (if you have supply)
Out of supply units cannot recover
It takes a while to kill 50,000 troops even when they are out of supply and out numbered 4 to 1. Certain units don't surrender easy and Chinese in the countryside are among the hardest to kill.


Maybe you are right Mogami. I tend to think all numbers displayed in the report are real casaulties when in reality the FoW obscures not only oponent casaulties but also my own (which seems pretty strange and causes a lot of confusion). Anyway as it is in CHS playing against AI the chinese war could not be described as japanese blitzkrieg - which actually makes it more enjoyable. I gave those examples not because I think I should be able to destroy entire Chinese army in one day but because they really seem strange. It is different story when you attack head on on the well supplied, fortified force, and different story when you want to squeeze the small pocket of resistance. Chinese units seem to defend (without supply, heavy equipment and entrenchments) more valiantly than US or british troops. My guess is that this is the effect of the maltitude of chinese HQs. It can also be some misteroius hard coded modifier.

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RE: I just don't understand land combat - 12/28/2005 5:18:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lt. Calley

After someone offered to pay Matrix $1000, Matrix promised to unhide the assault odds in War Plan Orange:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1017768


So, how much is it going to cost to have them do the exact same code change to WiTP?

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RE: I just don't understand land combat - 12/30/2005 5:50:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dtravel


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lt. Calley

After someone offered to pay Matrix $1000, Matrix promised to unhide the assault odds in War Plan Orange:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1017768


So, how much is it going to cost to have them do the exact same code change to WiTP?





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