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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 12/22/2006 4:15:15 AM   
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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 12/22/2006 4:55:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: von Shagmeister

Sgt R. Shannon is listed twice with 540 Sqn. I've completely exited the game 4 times and they are there every time.

I've just noticed there is no space between the R. and Shannon - R.Shannon. Don't know if that effects the way the editor reads the name.


No Space == generated names. The game keeps a count of surname use to allow some balancing, but not initial or within units, so it's just coincidence...



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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 12/22/2006 5:00:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		yea but a odd one to be getting doubles 4 times in a row in the same squadron ?

which, it could of been a bad name (easy to miss the space when inputting) but I not finding it

so do not think it is a data side thing


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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 12/22/2006 1:12:08 PM   
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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 12/23/2006 12:11:06 AM   
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this is what I have for 540 (before the corrections and add ins)

I do not find a R. Shannon, or R.Shannon any where in the data base

(I can check by squadron, by name, by nation)






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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 12/23/2006 1:16:58 AM   
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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 12/23/2006 1:59:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		yeap, and that is what VS had said

that is a uncorrected dump, won't have a new one till next week

I don't really want to post the screens from in game yet

there were two Hamitons too


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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 1/14/2007 5:14:55 PM   
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Here are the pilots serving with 2 Sqn as of 17Aug43 (it consisted of 3 Flights, hence the high number of pilots). Note they are all officers - no NCO pilots (this seems to be standard on all TacR Sqns during this period). I haven't such detailed info on these guys, hence the vague exp figures and lack of first names.

Name; Rank; Suggested Exp

Andrews, R.H.; F/O; Exp 70-80
Black, W.A.; F/O; Exp 55-65
Cooper, Ronald Cecil; F/O; Exp 70-80
Corrigan, G.H.; F/O; Exp 55-65
Day, J.B.; F/O; Exp 55-65
Dunkerley, M.P.; F/O; Exp 70-80
Egan-Wyer , B.O.C.; S/L (C/O); Exp 65-75
Gent, R.G.; F/O; Exp 55-65
Harris, I.W.; F/O; Exp 55-65
Hay-Neave, P.A.; F/O; Exp 70-80
Hope, F.J.; F/O; Exp 50-60
Jean-Hansen, C.F; Capt (Supernumerary Ldr?); Exp 60-70
Joy, H.F.C.; F/O; Exp 70-80
Leah, P.W.; F/O; Exp 70-80
Levanton, H.D.; F/O; Exp 50-60
Lumsden, M.S.; F/O; Exp 55-65
Maitland, C.E.; F/O; Exp 70-80
McPherson, G.I.H.; F/O; Exp 65-75
Meek, T.B.; F/O; Exp 70-80
Percival, G.A.; F/O; Exp 50-60
Redman, W.; F/O; Exp 50-60
Reich, D.G.; F/O; Exp 55-65
Shayle-George, S.J.; F/O; Exp 50-60
Shepherd, W.; F/L (Flt Cdr); Exp 75-85
Skinner, H.H.J.; F/O; Exp 70-80
Tonkin, Peter; F/O; Exp 70-80
Tufte-Johnsen, E.; Capt (Flt Cdr?); Exp 70-80
Wakefield, H.W.; F/L (Flt Cdr?); Exp 70-80
Weighill, R.H.G.; F/O; Exp 50-60

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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 1/24/2007 6:36:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Shaggy
sorry for the delay, I been working on something else

got them added, thanks




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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 4/28/2007 3:42:02 PM   
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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 4/28/2007 8:45:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: von Shagmeister

Pilots highlighted in bold already included

Donner, Konrad Von; Stab II./JG 26; Olt; 3 Kills
Galland, Wilhelm-Ferdinard; Stab II./JG 26; Maj (Gr.Kdr.); 54 Kills
Hummel, Otto; Stab II./JG 26 or 5./JG 26; Lt; 0 Kills
Schmidt, Karl-Heinz; Stab II./JG 26 or 4./JG 26; Lt; 0? Kills

Falkner, Gerhard; 4./JG 26;Uffz; 0 Kills
Gasser, Franz; 4./JG 26; Uffz; 0 Kills
Günther, Martin; 4./JG 26; Uffz; 0 Kills
Hanke, Erwin; 4./JG 26; Uffz; 0 Kills
Bürger, Walter; 4./JG 26; Uffz; 0 Kills
Butzmann, Hermann; 4./JG 26; Uffz; 0 Kills
Glunz, Adolf; 4./JG 26; Ofw; 39 Kills
Roth, Willi; 4./JG 26; Ofw; 19 Kills
Heinemann, Ernst; 4./JG 26; Lt; 1 Kill
Hoppe, Helmut; 4./JG 26; Lt (St.Kap.); 15 Kills
Weyrich, Rudolf; 4./JG 26; Fw; 0 Kills

Wyrich, Heinz; 4/9/43 4./JG 26; Gefr; 0 Kills
Przybyl, Leo; ?/8/43 ?4./JG 26?; Obgefr; 0 Kills
Fischer, Hans; Instr duties or 4./JG 26; Lt; 1 Kill

Gomann, Heinz; 5./JG 26; Uffz; 6 Kills
Krieg, Heinrich; 5./JG 26; Uffz; 1 Kill
Hoffmann, Werner; 5./JG 26; Uffz; 0 Kills
Kubon, Harry; 5./JG 26; Uffz; 0 Kills
Sternberg, Horst; 5./JG 26; Olt (St.Kap.); 19 Kills
Günther, Alfred; 5./JG 26; Ofw; 0 Kills
Lange, Friedrich; 5./JG 26; Lt; 3 Kills
Kehl, Dietrich; 5./JG 26; Lt; 1 Kill
Kipping, Peter; 5./JG 26; Lt; 0 Kills
Matoni, Walter; 5./JG 26; Lt or Olt; 6 Kills
Crump, Peter; 5./JG 26; Fw; 10 Kills
Pittmann, Hans; 5./JG 26; Fw; 0 Kills
Freuwörth, Wilhelm; 5./JG 26; Fw or Ofw; 58 Kills
Gräve, Alfons; 5./JG 26 or 12./JG 26; Ofw; 1 Kill


Maletz, Gerhard; ?5./JG 26?; Uffz; 0 Kills
Scheu, Johann; ?5./JG 26?; Uffz; ? Kills
Berg, Heinrich; ?/8/43 ?5./JG 26?; Uffz; 0 Kills
Steinkühler, Werner; ?/8/43 ?5./JG 26?; Uffz; 0 Kills

Schilling, Franz; 6./JG 26; Uffz; 0 Kills
Scholz, Erwin; 6./JG 26; Uffz; 0 Kills
Berger, Walter; 6./JG 26; Uffz; 0 Kills
Jörg, Adolf; 6./JG 26; Uffz or Fw; 0 Kills
Radener, Waldemar; 6./JG 26; Lt; 5 Kills
Lörzer, Hans-Günther; 6./JG 26; Lt; 0 Kills
Naumann, Johannes; 6./JG 26; Hptm (St.Kap.); 20 Kills
Mayer, Wilhelm; 6./JG 26; Fw; 4 Kills
Vogt, Gerhard; 6./JG 26; Fw; 13 Kills
Zeschke, Karl-Heinz; 6./JG 26; Fw; 0 Kills
Ehret, Karl; 6./JG 26; Fw; 0 Kills

Georgi, Rudolf; ?6./JG 26?; Uffz; 0 Kills
Wölfert, Hans; ?6./JG 26?; Lt; 0 Kills




just to be sure, we got a uffz Walter Burger and a uffz Walter Berger ?



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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 4/28/2007 9:08:42 PM   
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Uffz Walter Berger 6./JG 26
Uffz Walter Bürger 4./JG 26

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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 4/29/2007 4:29:09 AM   
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just wanted to be sure of the 2nd letter, wasn't sure if the fancy U may not of been seen as a E to one person and not to another

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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 6/3/2007 7:46:14 PM   
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Here is a really good reference site for adding real 8th AAF FC pilot names.

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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 6/3/2007 9:45:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Augenstein,

Thanks for the link but we've got 99.9% of 8FC pilots, both initial pilots and replacement pilots, it's just a matter of Sarge finding the time to enter them all.

However do keep searching as there are still huge gaps (ie no where near such good coverage for 9FC as for 8FC or for the bombers and coverage for RAF/CW Sqns is hit or miss).

Will have good coverage for the Jagdwaffe (eventually) when everything is cross referenced.

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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 6/3/2007 10:06:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Augenstein

http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/

Here is a really good reference site for adding real 8th AAF FC pilot names.




yea that is a great site, I have been going there since before this started :) and I have talked with some of the people who supply info to that site, I like the pictures

and as Shaggy says, the main hassle areas, are CW (and IXth is shaky)

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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 7/9/2007 5:12:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Please include 2Lt Donald W. Stoulil (Pilot) for the 303rd BG(H). He was the pilot of Knockout Dropper. Two kills: Ju-88 and FW-190 by S/Sgt Kenneth L. Holder (BTG)


[harleyedit - sorry, the URL width was bugging me. I put in the image tags, too]

Thirty-three dispatched (30 credited) Combat missions flown by Captain Donald W. Stoulil:

Two as CoPilot with combat orientation Crew: 90 (20 Dec 43) & 91(AS) - With 1Lt LeRoy E. Daub Crew (Other Stoulil crew members stood down)

Fourteen First Pilot regular crew missions: 92 (AS) (24 Dec 43), 93, 95, 98, 99, 100, 101, 103(A), 104, 107(A), 109, 110, 111, 112, 115, 121(A) & 122 (18 Mar 44)

Fourteen as Lead Crew CoPilot or Pilot while assigned as a PFF (Pathfinder) Lead crew with the 305th BG(H) at Chelveston: 136 (18 Apr 44) - Major Glynn F. Shumake, 303rdBG (P), 140 - Col Smith 384th BG (P), 144 - B/G Travis , 41stCBW (CP), 147 - LtCol Rohr, 379th BG (P) 153 -LtCol Rohr, 379th BG (P), 155 (unknown pilot) 379th BG (CP), 158 -LtCol Lyle, 303rd BG (P), 159 - LtCol Rohr, 379th BG (P), 161 - LtCol Lyle, 303rd BG (P),167- Capt Daub, 359th BS (CP), 170 - Capt Heller, 359th BS (CP),172 - Maj Shumake, 303rd BG (CP),174 B/G Travis, 41st CBW (P), 183 - Col Stevens, 303rd BG (CP) 18 June 44)
(AS) Credited abortive sortie - no bombs dropped -- (A) Non-Credited abortive missions
For mission dates and targets see the missions list.
Note: The Stoulil crew members who served on TDY with the 305th BG(H) as PFF Lead crewmen were never happy with the assignment. While assigned to a Squadron they were never made to feel a part of the 305th and were also considered as outsiders by many in the 303rd. The Stoulil crewmen were made to feel like "men without a country."
Crew Notes (ranks and grades at time of last combat mission):

Capt Donald W. Stoulil (P) - Graduated from Advanced Pilot School as 2ndLt 12 April 43, Class 43-D, Roswell, NM. B-17 Transition school, Hobbs, NM, Crew Phase Training at Ephrata, WA & Gieger Field, WA. Crew assigned 359th BS 17 Nov 1943. Completed 30 mission combat tour on 24 May 1944. Recalled to active duty during Korean Was. Served as Psychological Warfare Unit for 18 months. Transferred to Minnesota Air National Guard and USAF Reserve. Retired 4 Jan 1981 as LtCol.

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DONALD W. STOULIL CREW - 359th BS
B-17F Knockout Dropper #41-24605 (BN-R)
(crew assigned 359BS: 17 Nov 1943 - photo: 28 Nov 1943)





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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 7/9/2007 7:47:36 PM   
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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 8/11/2007 1:09:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi,
I am playing Bob and 12 o`clock high, which seems to be the European version of Bombing the Reich for abaut 5 years with some interruptions, so I am really an addicted one

It is a pleasure for me to have found some persons on this planet which are still interested in the game.

So, I hope you will answer my following question. I posted it to this thread because the question I think fits in this topic.

Is the any possibiltiy to influence the allocation of new pilots to squadrons. I suffer the pain that some squadrons are get 40 pilots regradless of the available machines in the squadrons. Also when I upgrade from one plane to another one, (e.g Me 110 to He 219 Uhu) then the squadron will be filled with up to 30 planes. As a result I update the Stab-Squadrons first in order to avoid such strange things from happen.

But the major problem are the pilots... so is there any possibilty or patch which gives me the opportunity to influence the allocation? Or, what are the internal mechanics of the program for the replenishment of pilots?

Thanks in advance

Best Regards,

CHRIS from Austria

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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 8/11/2007 9:44:37 PM   
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(should of post this a new question, but I will reply here)

no, it is how the game replaces pilots, the player does not really have any control over it

and the same with the plane replacements, other then you can change planes with a few units and the game will split the planes between them (IE, if you have 60 P-40s, you give them to one FG it will get 60 planes, if you give them to two units you will get 30 in each and so on)




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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 9/14/2007 11:16:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here are the pilots flying with 7PRMG (7PRG) as of 17Aug43 and suggested exp levels based on their known careers

HQ/7PRMG
 
Lt Col Hall, James (C/O); Exp 95 – WWI pilot with 3 kills
Capt Wright, James S. (Exec & Ops Off.); Exp 65-75

As there are no HQ flights in the game these two pilots could be included with the 13PS as they are both ex 13PS
 
13PS/7PRMG
 
1/Lt? Beckley, Raymond E.; Exp 60-70
1/Lt? Clark, Robert R.; Exp 60-70
FO Gonzalez, Hector; Exp 65-75 – previously flew with RCAF
Capt Luber, Vernon; Exp 70-80
Capt? Mitchell, Raymond C.; Exp 70-80
Capt Nielson, Howard R. (Ops Off.); Exp 65-75
Capt? Owen, George; Exp 65-75
Capt Parsons, Hershell (C/O); Exp 70-80
1/Lt Shade, Walter Dale; Exp 60-70
1/Lt? Tooke, Walter; Exp 60-70
1/Lt? Wagner, Harvey M.; Exp 60-70
1/Lt? Watts, John Harvey; Exp 60-70
2/Lt? Witt, Harry; Exp 65-75 – previously flew with RAF

More to follow

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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 9/16/2007 3:11:00 PM   
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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 9/25/2007 8:41:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bernard Proko joined 13PS 29Oct43

14PS/7PRMG – All pilots except Campbell have no combat experience

FO Adams, Gerald M.; Exp 55-65                                  
?/Lt Alston, Robert C.; Exp 50-60                                   
Capt Bliss, Kermit E.; Exp 60-70                                  
Capt Campbell, James; Exp 65-75  -  Only pilot in this Sqn to have flown in combat
FO Davidson, Verner K.; Exp 50-60                              
FO Diderickson (Didericksen?), Robert W.; Exp 50-60     
FO Eaton, Wilbur B.; Exp 50-60                                   
?/Lt Fricke, Harlan J.; Exp 50-60                                   
FO Graves, Willard; Exp 50-70                                       
FO Nelson, Robert R.; Exp 50-60                                  
Capt Nesselrode, George; Exp 60-70                             
1/Lt Sheble, Richard; Exp 55-65                                   
Capt Simon, Walter J.; Exp 60-70                                 
Maj Wayne, Marshall (C/O); Exp 70-80                         
Capt Weitner, Walter L. (Ops Off.); Exp 60-70    

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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 10/3/2007 3:05:33 PM   
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sorry for the delay, you would not believe the RL stuff going on

show you how my week/month been going, a Truck ran over my car yesterday

a bug flew into his cab, and he went to wave it away, and lost control of his truck and ran over my car

at least, nobody was hurt


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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 10/3/2007 5:56:47 PM   
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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 10/10/2007 4:42:24 PM   
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Wife is back in the hosp

still waiting on the insur for the car (they working, gave me a rental, but need to do the estamite and then find a shop to repair it)

lost my G Drive yesterday, now having trouble when I boot up the computer (it wants to go to the A drive ?)

as a just in case, I have moved all my needed files to my removeable drive, if my main drive blows, I will still be able to get to my files !!!!




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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 11/7/2007 1:59:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		41 Sqn (17Aug43)
suggested exp levels are based on known biographical data (which isn’t always complete)
 
F/O Birbeck, Clive Robert; Exp 65-75
F/O Boyd, Robert James; Exp 80-85
P/O Cook, Arthur Charles; Exp 50-55
F/O Cowell, Peter; Exp 65-75
F/O Davies, David Douglas; Exp 70-75
F/L Fearon, David N. (Supernumerary); Exp 70-80
P/O Fisher, Douglas Percy; Exp 65-75
F/O Galitzine, Prince Emanuel V.; Exp 70-75
F/O Glen, Arthur Allan; Exp 85-90
Sgt Graham, Peter Bartlemy; Exp 50-60
F/S Gray, James Arthur Bryce; Exp 55-65
P/O Harding, Ross Philip; Exp 50-60
F/O Haywood, Douglas; Exp 75-85
F/L Hone, Douglas Harold (Flt Cdr); Exp 75-85
Sgt Hope, Alan; Exp 55-65
S/L Ingham, Bernard (C/O); Exp 80-85
F/L? Inness, Richard Frederick (Supernumerary); Exp 80-85
F/O Johnson, Ronald; Exp 70-75
F/L Lane, Roy (Supernumerary); Exp 70-80
F/O Loweth, Ronald Arthur; Exp 60-70
F/S May, S.H.; Exp 65-75
F/O Moffett, Hubert Bruce; Exp 65-75
F/O Newman, Benjamin Bernard; Exp 70-75
F/L Parry, Hugh Lawrence (Flt Cdr); Exp 70-80
Sgt Payne, James Charles Joseph; Exp 50-60
F/O ****ett, Leslie Alfred; Exp 75-80
F/O Smith, Donald Hamilton; Exp 75-80
F/O Solak, Jerzy Jakub; Exp 75-80
Sgt Vann, W.H.; Exp 50-60
F/O Wagner, Herbert Appleton; Exp 60-70
Sgt Wall, Peter R.; Exp 55-65



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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 11/7/2007 2:06:12 PM   
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F/O ****ett, Leslie Alfred; Exp 75-80

should read P r i c k ett (Papa, Romeo, India, Charlie, Kilo, Echo, Tango, Tango)

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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 11/7/2007 7:15:12 PM   
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RE: Real Life Pilots For Inclusion - 11/7/2007 7:48:13 PM   
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Stanley Henry May

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