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RE: Resource Types - 2/12/2008 1:06:13 AM   
Shannon V. OKeets

 

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I planned on having the names size 4 (or 3) color black. I'm not sure using varying colors would be a good idea.
I would have liked the text to be not longer that the width of the resource icon, or maybe a little more, only ledgible at very high level of zooms (6-8).

I think size 4 would be better than 3. If the name is longer than the width of the icon, it won't be that bad. More than half of the resources have labels that are 6 or less characters.

I do not want to change fonts. The one we are using (Verdana) was chosen to have minimal loss of legibility through different levels of zoom. I don't want to go through that again for another font (even if it is only used for zoom 6, 7, and 8).

Italics may or may not work. If you want to do that, then you need to assign a unique color (not used else where) so the program can detect that it is suppose to be italicized - that is how the rivers are done.

I suggested the different colors primarily because of the different terrain backgrounds and wanting something that contrasts better. If we use just one color, that won't be possible. Some backgrounds are light (clear) and other dark (mountains and forest). The point is that we are using a small font with low contrast, which might make the label difficult to read.

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RE: Resource Types - 2/12/2008 1:34:44 AM   
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I agree, the colours are a bit much, a simple (small) label in perhaps italics would suffice.

Marcus: The problem with the Calgary resource is there isnt a predominant mineral there (other then Oil). I would suggest either "Livestock" or "Grain" as these were the main resources of Alberta aside from Oil. Personally, I'd go with Livestock. Gotta feed those GI's.

Or simply "Food", as for the Netherlands ?


I like "Livestock" personally, that way it covers not just food, but other animal products that were used in war industy, ie Nitrates, Leather, Wool, Glue, Fertilizer, Medical Supplies, and most importantly, Horses... which were used in WW2 by every single nation. The Wehrmact alone used 3 million+ horses throughout the war.

-Little known fact #1: WW2 saw an estimated 17 million horses killed.

-Little known fact #2: The wool linings of every cold-weather flight suit used by Bomber Command was produced by a single Scottish sheep farm that became known as "Lancaster Farms" and was awarded a citation by the British Govt post war.

Could probably use the same "Livestock" term for the Netherlands.

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RE: Resource Types - 2/12/2008 10:49:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		My brother-in-law started his academic career at Calgary and I well remember him telling me years ago about the famous rodeo there (biggest in the world?).  So, I suggest it is labelled simply 'cattle' as I'm sure that is what most people associate with the place.

But 'livestock' might be better to include horses.

The Netherlands main export was dairy products (milk and especially cheese) so 'livestock' would not be appropriate. I suggested 'Food' just because it is shorter than 'Dairy Products' and it is at a very crowded point of the map.

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RE: Resource Types - 2/12/2008 11:55:14 AM   
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The Netherlands main export was dairy products (milk and especially cheese) so 'livestock' would not be appropriate. I suggested 'Food' just because it is shorter than 'Dairy Products' and it is at a very crowded point of the map.


Pie is even shorter!

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RE: Resource Types - 2/12/2008 6:14:02 PM   
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RE: Resource Types - 2/12/2008 6:25:08 PM   
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victuals

Main Entry: 1vict·ual
Pronunciation: \ˈvi-təl\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English vitaille, victuayle, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin victualia, plural, provisions, victuals, from neuter plural of victualis of nourishment, from Latin victus nourishment, way of living, from vivere to live.
Date: 15th century

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RE: Resource Types - 2/12/2008 7:00:47 PM   
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the famous rodeo there (biggest in the world?). 


The Calgary Stampede.

I've been to a couple. The second one I was at tallied 1.1 million tourists during the 10 day long festivities. Do those cowboys know how to party or what?

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RE: Resource Types - 2/12/2008 7:15:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mziln

Instead of food how about...

victuals

Main Entry: 1vict·ual
Pronunciation: \ˈvi-təl\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English vitaille, victuayle, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin victualia, plural, provisions, victuals, from neuter plural of victualis of nourishment, from Latin victus nourishment, way of living, from vivere to live.
Date: 15th century

Well, 'victuals' (I have never seen the singular used in print) always makes me think of Daniel Boone in the wilds of Tennessee circa 1700's. Perhaps for a game about the French & Indian War (sorry for the 'misnomer' Patrice) or the American Revolution, but by WW II they were using C-rations.

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RE: Resource Types - 2/12/2008 7:19:31 PM   
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RE: Resource Types - 2/13/2008 12:44:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Well, 'victuals' (I have never seen the singular used in print) always makes me think of Daniel Boone in the wilds of Tennessee circa 1700's. Perhaps for a game about the French & Indian War (sorry for the 'misnomer' Patrice) or the American Revolution, but by WW II they were using C-rations.


Army Operational Rations - Historical Background

1940 where it was subjected to stern field trials. From that test emerged a range of criticisms: the cans were too large and bulky; the meat lacked variety, was too rich, and contained too many beans. Yet, there was agreement that the new C ration was nutritionally adequate and was "one of the best field rations . . . ever issued to the Army."


But the K Ration was more popular.

The Army quickly noted the success of the new ration with the paratroops and in 1942 the item was adopted for all-service use as Field Ration, Type K.39 The instantaneous success of the ration with attendant popular publicity, was a source of amazement to the developers.


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RE: Resource Types - 2/18/2008 2:36:03 PM   
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RE: Resource Types - 2/18/2008 2:51:52 PM   
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No tungsten in China?



See Post 1. Pre-war, China (Fukien) produced 48% of the world's tungsten. The problem is that Harry never put a resource symbol anywhere near Fukien. We are allowed to identify resource types, but to move a resource symbol to a more accurate location is treated as close to sacrilege.

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RE: Resource Types - 2/18/2008 3:11:46 PM   
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RE: Resource Types - 2/18/2008 7:02:46 PM   
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No tungsten in China?



See Post 1. Pre-war, China (Fukien) produced 48% of the world's tungsten. The problem is that Harry never put a resource symbol anywhere near Fukien. We are allowed to identify resource types, but to move a resource symbol to a more accurate location is treated as close to sacrilege.

Yes, there are no RP in Fukien.
As for the sacrilege, I've moved more resources these last weeks than I did for the past 2 years.

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