Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: wmcalpine

Lee,

The screenshot of AGC with FOW turned off was scary. A veritable sea of Soviet troops. Were many of those brigades or divisions?

Thank you for the very entertaining AAR.

Bill

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ORIGINAL: elmo3

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ORIGINAL: Zort

It looks like your fort units have not done as well as expected. Wonder if the soviet losses will be so bad that they will falter in 42?

The fortified zone units were disappointing, as Joel predicted. I wonder if we'll still have an army at all in '42?

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ORIGINAL: critter

Thanks for the AAR
Elmo whats your take on the fortfied zones? Worthless? What do you think their next evolution will be? Aren't they supposed to represent heg hogs?
As per ComradeP Q, what did the soviet rear area look like? Was the AI shipping its units to the front?

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Aren't they supposed to represent heg hogs?

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The fortified regions are really special static combat units designed to help with fortification construction, supplement line units while building defenses, and allow the allocation of more support units (directly attached) for defense. They are not worthless, it's just that I'm not sure how to use them effectively yet.

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Just to be clear, a fortified zone is not a fort. It is a unit, that contains around 2000k, of which 270 are labor. The rest are about 2 companies of men and support troops. That's when they are up to full strength. They will help increase the fortification level of the hex (because like all troops they will dig), but not by a bunch. Units adjacent to the enemy dig less than those in the rear (since they can't spend all their time digging but have to worry about the enemy).

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Why Hitler called off the attack on Leningrad in 41 I'll never know...

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ORIGINAL: Captain B

Elmo aka Lee,

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A couple of items...are you going to send the designers some notes with your observations? ... Also, did the blizzard affect the soviet at all? Having been on an ARTEP during a blizzard in Germany (in modern tanks mind you), you cannot operate at any level of efficiency and coordination. May need to be an increase in the modifier for the soviets movement as well during blizzard? Don't know, guess you will find out in your next round!

Viel Gluck!

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ORIGINAL: von Jaeger

...Do you need to order them to dig in or does it happen naturally, as it were?   And why no gradual increase in level?    ...What do you think?

Thanks again
Stuart

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ORIGINAL: ComradeP

The Soviets did seem to be quite strong suddenly in winter, even though the average Rifle division still only had an attack strength of 2 according to the screenshots. German defensive strength didn't really seem to have much of an impact.

Your reserve, like that Panzer division in Smolensk, also didn't seem to do anything at all, whilst the Soviets were not really troubled by the winter.

The effectiveness of Rifle formations might be too high in the blizzard. Even if they had adequate winter gear (which is a big if considering the state Soviet logistics were in at the end of 1941, and considering that in the Winter War frostbite casualties were fairly serious), their tactical doctrine (or lack thereof I should say) would still quickly nullify an relative increase in strength due to having that winter equipment. The Germans might be freezing, but they still have a solid operational and tactical doctrine. The Soviets, even though not freezing, wouldn't suddenly become expert tacticians. For example, the Soviet way of removing Germans from a village was to send groups of men out to literally stamp a path into the snow towards the German-held village (predictably, casualties were horrible in those groups), human-waving to reach the village and then cleaning the village house by house.

Considering that most of elmo's formations were in a much better shape than their historical counterparts if the casualty figures are an indication, Soviet effectiveness against almost full strength German formations might be too high currently.