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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/4/2011 1:39:32 AM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/6/2011 8:14:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Adding to the helmet is easy enough. It was not cost effective polygon wise, once upon a time.

The bigger prob with the helmet IMO is the inside not being there.

At any rate I made a high res helmet(more than one version --the second was even higher res). That higher res one can be swapped to any figure in the game (using a 3d editor). That good helmet hangs on the sides of certain ger vehicles IIRC.

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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 1:50:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		It wasn't so much how many polygons there are, as how they are used - the point, in opposition to the horizon is more obvious than a flat plane with the same/fewer polygons would be (IMO). I feel the same about the tendency to use mirrored modelling in high(ish) poly models for flight-sims - the top line should be flattened somewhat to eliminate the most obvious 'tell' on the top centre-line of canopies, panels and engine decks. I also prefer flat topped circles/cylinders, for gauges and barrels etc. where feasible where polygons are limited (ie a rotation of 1/2 side from the typical).

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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 4:49:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did some works to improve the Pz IIIs and I added the grass (that I modified in a few minutes) on a map to take these screenshots.

A Pzkpfw IIIJ on the move:




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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 5:01:11 PM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 5:04:43 PM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 5:11:07 PM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 5:11:56 PM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 5:14:18 PM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 5:17:46 PM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 6:01:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		That looks wonderful!  That grass really makes a difference in immersion if I may say so.

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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 8:04:49 PM   
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That looks wonderful!  That grass really makes a difference in immersion if I may say so.



I agree! Is grass a permanent feature in the game?

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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 9:03:39 PM   
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That looks wonderful!  That grass really makes a difference in immersion if I may say so.



I agree! Is grass a permanent feature in the game?


Yep! Stridor just added this feature this morning and as you can see, some folks jumped on it right away. It's added to each map by the map designer when he makes a map.

Thanks
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/7/2011 9:34:40 PM   
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Full marks for the grass. It elbows the graphics up into a higher plane. Really good.

Is this something you can easily add yourself via the editor?

Cheers,
Lancer

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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/8/2011 9:36:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent. I agree with the others. That grass looked very sharp. Nice addition.

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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/8/2011 9:43:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I finally got to see it today. If you like using the Commander view it is pretty cool to give your tank a move order and view the grass and flowers as you move along.

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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/9/2011 5:46:52 AM   
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I finally got to see it today. If you like using the Commander view it is pretty cool to give your tank a move order and view the grass and flowers as you move along.


There is a "commander view" in the game? I didn't know that. That is one cool feature.

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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/9/2011 8:52:28 AM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/9/2011 7:15:09 PM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/9/2011 7:33:24 PM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/9/2011 8:48:42 PM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/10/2011 12:48:19 AM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/10/2011 12:52:01 AM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/10/2011 1:51:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		The screenshots look excellent. I am very pleased with the progress. This is well worth waiting for.

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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/12/2011 4:18:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just finished to improve the Pzkpfw III Ausf G, the first thing you can see is the old suspension system (narrow tracks, different drive sprocket and idler) and the lack of the additional armor on the front hull. I am testing the decal system so the SS could be not so nice that those above.




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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/12/2011 5:19:41 PM   
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Brothers in Arms!

Or a fight to the Death!

Here one of my squads is trying to take a building that one of Von Staudt's HMG's is defending. At the moment we are negotiating tenants rights.

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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/12/2011 9:05:33 PM   
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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/12/2011 10:33:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey MR, how long would you figure it takes to turn out a decent 2kmx2km map from scratch? I have watched the 2 part videos but am wondering what you think that you spend in time on a typical map of this size.
By the way, everything is looking splendid.

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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/13/2011 5:06:58 AM   
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Hey MR, how long would you figure it takes to turn out a decent 2kmx2km map from scratch? I have watched the 2 part videos but am wondering what you think that you spend in time on a typical map of this size.
By the way, everything is looking splendid.


It takes longer to locate the location you want to put in your map in the Google Earth locator window in Map Maker. Once you find the ground you want on your map it takes less than 10 minutes total to import both the height and terrain maps into MM and combine them into your map.

Now, having said that, you can spend DAYS fixing your map up with all the little bells and whistles....not that I know anybody that's done that....

One interesting thing, that most of us have tried at one time or another, is to make your own neighborhood.

From start to finish on a 2km map with normal amounts of terrain but not many buildings, they take the most time, I probably put a 2km map together and be mostly finished with it in 20 hours or less. Two lane roads cost me alot of time because I hand make the wheel tracks and the inner space.

Buildings will be time consuming for newer builders. There are certain rules that you have to pay attention to when putting buildings on the map. Single trees as well. There are certain settings that you make sure are in place. After you redo a map with about 200 trees on it you learn. Or have a tank drive through one of your buildings. Which wouldn't have been so bad but it was my opponents tank that drove through one of MY buildings.

By your 3rd map you will be making medium detailed 2k maps without lots of roads or buildings in 20 hours or less. Of course you can make these maps as detailed as you like and then the time just seems to fly by.



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RE: Screenshot of the day... - 1/13/2011 5:32:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Trees and houses are pretty quick. Lining up RR tracks and power lines is a bit of work, especially on those large 2km maps.

As MR said finding the exact right spot can also take some time. I've had to redo several maps as the area I was doing turned out the be the wrong spot the more I researched the scenario. There are 3 Kolomak maps because I hit the wrong spot the first two times and they were pretty nice looking maps. They all can be used for random battles as they represent the general area west of Kharkov.

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