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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/13/2019 9:17:42 AM   
Alfred

 

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ORIGINAL: obvert


...He'll get a lot and drop some of mine, (more critical probably) if he takes Chungking and Chengtu. I'm playing to defend those at all costs, but the supply situation is making it tough.

The one thing that will help is if he continues to play with his daylight bombing and give me ether occasional 300-400 point haul of 4E and fighter VPs. He still hasn't really touched Tokyo, other than with atomics, so maybe that could yield some VPs too.


Whilst the total loss of the China bases will impact negatively on the denominator, I do think you are over emphasising the impact. I still maintain that come the final turn your denominator is unlikely to decrease much, and probably will increase from what it currently is. Consider these calculations.

1. Your last VP screenshot is post #3456 as at 7 Nov 1945. Then you had 204 bases which provided 9704 base points.

2. Lose all the base points brings the then denominator down to approx. 79k. But this is never going to happen as the overwhelming number of Japanese controlled bases, which provide the bulk of the non Chinese base points, are on the Home Islands.

3. The worst case scenario of losing all your Chinese bases is a loss of approx. 8k in base points. This is if they have all been fully built up and all are at full supply, which I suspect is not the case, and that the Allies spend the time to capture all of them, including the ones way up north like Urumchi etc. Troops mopping up China are not available for the more dangerous operations involved in invading the Home Islands.

4. The more realistic estimate is that by late Feb/early March, you will have lost Chungking, Chengtu, Kunming, Tsuyung, Lanchow and Sining. If they have been fully built up (and were fully supplies on 7 Nov), the denominator will be reduced by 7.8k. Now that represents about a daily loss of approx. 80 VPs. You are averaging a daily gain which is significantly greater than this.

5. The last 4 screenshots of aircraft losses are shown on posts #3459, 3462, 3467 and 2468 for Nov 9, 10, 15 and 17 respectively. Those four days alone show 372 downed Allied aircraft, of which aprox. 138 were 4E Beasties. Thus your average daily aircraft points gain is about 127 VPs. Which all go directly to the denominator. So even if my time estimate in 4 above is very wrong and you lose all those Chinese cities by 1 Jan 1946, aircraft points will at least equal lost base points. And after you have lost the Chinese bases you will still accrue aircraft points and where will the Allies further reduce your base points? Only from Korea and Japan proper, not an easy task not to mention the army points loss involved.

6. It is the denominator, not the numerator, which is critical. Increasing the numerator requires the Allies destroying much more of your devices. Here the Japanese benefit from having better multipliers. Allied non Soviet/Chinese devices are twice as expensive than Japanese devices. IOW if the Japanese lose 12 device but destroy 3 non-Soviet/Chinese devices, Japan still comes out ahead because the Allies gain only a 2:1 VP benefit when the Allies need to gain, on average, better than a 2:1 ratio to get the overall score to the auto victory threshold (which we already knows only earns at best an Allied Marginal Victory).


7. The fact is that the Allies need to gain


  • the Chinese bases
  • the Korean bases
  • continue the strategic bombing of Japan


to have any hope of reaching the auto victory threshold. In all three instances significant opportunities to at leat cover the decrease of the denominator, and in fact even slightly increase the denominator, present themselves. Come 1 Jan 1946, the Japanese denominator will still hover around the 88k mark. How much do you think the numerator will be? My guestimate is that it will have moved from appro 131.5k on 7 Nov to approx. 142k, a monthly average gain of approx. 6k.

8. Extrapolating from 7 above, one can envisage Japan having a denominator around 90k come the end of May 1946. The numerator by then might be only around 175k. That results in a Draw (as per post 3476).


Alfred

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/13/2019 12:50:21 PM   
obvert


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I've tried to keep getting anything I can to increase the denominator. I've also reduced the options for him getting easy points in the numerator by sequestering my remaining ships in TFs in the inland sea and at Tokyo. I've had some surface combat units at Nagasaki for months with no reaction from the Allies, but I think it might be time to get them back as well.

Yamato is repairing at Hiroshima and hasn't yet been a target for any bombing raids there. Very few other ships are in port, so strikes would have to be naval, thus more susceptible to CAP reduction and lack of coordination. There are a lot of shipping VPs stilll afloat though, so I wonder how long it'll be until he tries to target them.

He's gaining fast as some more troops are destroyed at Shanghai, and will have more opportunities to get others in China. He's gotten the far NW bases down to Sining and Lanchow, but hasn't broken through those yet.

It'll be an interesting ending.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/13/2019 3:22:18 PM   
obvert


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On the 18th big strikes against Nagasaki during the day. It gets messy, and the CAP does do some damage, but strikes do get through and hit hard.

Overall The Allies again lose some big numbers of planes, with around 75-80 4Es among the casualties. Damage to the base is extensive and still burning. This is though what. Hope for, which is some significant points gained for the losses.

Night strikes also hit other more minor bases, incurring losses to flak and NF as well.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 18, 1945
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Night Air attack on Matsuyama , at 105,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 6
P1Y2-S Frances x 8
Ki-102c Randy x 11

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 15 damaged

Resources hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Takamatsu , at 107,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 17
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 6
Ki-102c Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 13 damaged

Manpower hits 48
Fires 25935

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Iwaki , at 116,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 42

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 11 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 27
J2M5 Jack x 13
J7W1 Shinden x 3
N1K5-J George x 56
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 15
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 2
Ki-84r Frank x 10
Ki-100-II Tony x 15
Ki-102b Randy x 13

Allied aircraft
F8F-1 Bearcat x 35
FR-1 Fireball x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F8F-1 Bearcat: 1 destroyed
FR-1 Fireball: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x F8F-1 Bearcat sweeping at 26000 feet
2 x FR-1 Fireball sweeping at 26000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 15
J2M5 Jack x 9
J7W1 Shinden x 3
N1K5-J George x 46
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 13
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 7
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 2
Ki-84r Frank x 10
Ki-100-II Tony x 15
Ki-102b Randy x 10

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 127
P-47N Thunderbolt x 24
P-51D Mustang x 18
P-51H Mustang x 11
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 4 destroyed, 70 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak
P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed
P-51H Mustang: 1 destroyed
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 2 damaged

Resources hits 2
Light Industry hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Banzai! - Eto U. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a B-17G Fortress for the Emperor
Banzai! - Goto S. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a B-17G Fortress for the Emperor
Banzai! - Inokuchi T. in a Ki-100-II Tony rams a B-17G Fortress for the Emperor
Banzai! - Hashiguchi B. in a Ki-100-II Tony rams a B-17G Fortress for the Emperor
Banzai! - Hidaka B. in a Ki-102b Randy rams a B-17G Fortress for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kurihara E. in a N1K5-J George rams a B-17G Fortress for the Emperor
Banzai! - Chiyoshima O. in a J2M5 Jack rams a B-17G Fortress for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kado W. in a Ki-43-IV Oscar rams a B-17G Fortress for the Emperor

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 9
J2M5 Jack x 5
J7W1 Shinden x 3
N1K5-J George x 34
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 4
Ki-84b Frank x 2
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Ki-100-II Tony x 4
Ki-102b Randy x 3

Allied aircraft
Tempest F.2 x 16
P-38L Lightning x 72

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 7 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Tempest F.2 sweeping at 11000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 8
J2M5 Jack x 4
J7W1 Shinden x 3
N1K5-J George x 29
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 3
Ki-84b Frank x 2
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Ki-100-II Tony x 4
Ki-102b Randy x 3

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 Spcl x 15
Lancaster B.1 FE x 35
Thunderbolt II x 18
B-24J Liberator x 143
B-29-25 Superfort x 37
B-29B Superfort x 7
P-38L Lightning x 25
P-47N Thunderbolt x 72
P-51D Mustang x 133
P-51H Mustang x 101

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 Spcl: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Lancaster B.1 FE: 5 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 54 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 7 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 5 destroyed
P-51H Mustang: 1 destroyed

Manpower hits 6
Resources hits 75
Naval Shipyard hits 19
Fires 11055

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Lancaster B.1 Spcl bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 12000 lb GP Bomb

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/13/2019 3:23:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nagasaki is reeling. I have to send air groups to Hiroshima to replace depleted airframes now.






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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 11/13/2019 3:42:21 PM   
obvert


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A few quieter turns on the 19th and 20th. I managed to hit Cam Ran Bay with some Frances, but they couldn't really do much effective damage. Likely no sinking there. Also got CL Naka into the Sulu Sea before it was detected and attacked by some Barracudas. The small Oscar CAP at Tarakan helped out, but one bomb got through. Naha will look for opportunities with light damage.

On the 21st another massive daylight strike hits Nagoya. Again big Allied losses, over 200 planes total with about 140 4E shot down. So that's good.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 19, 1945
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Night Air attack on Kanoya , at 102,61

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y2 Frances x 26
Ki-83 x 24

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y2 Frances: 4 destroyed
P1Y2 Frances: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK Samburgh, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK King Hathaway, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK William Allen White, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Samspring, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 11000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 20, 1945
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Submarine attack near Babeldaob at 96,85

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-5
xAK Toei Maru
xAK Sanuki Maru
xAK Midori Maru
E No.36
E Kanawa

Allied Ships
SS L-18, hits 15, and is sunk

SS L-18 is sighted by escort
L-18 diving deep ....
E No.36 attacking submerged sub ....
SS L-18 forced to surface!
E No.36 firing on surfaced sub ....

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 21, 1945
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Night Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 17

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 3 damaged

Manpower hits 179
Fires 90390

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 54 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 14

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged

Manpower hits 183
Fires 182850

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Tottori , at 109,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 9
P1Y2-S Frances x 1
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 8
Ki-102c Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 6 damaged

Resources hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Morning Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 67,91

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
Barracuda II x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Barracuda II: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Naka, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Barracuda II bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 53 NM, estimated altitude 42,700 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 18
A6M8 Zero x 22
A7M2 Sam x 54
J2M5 Jack x 58
N1K5-J George x 54
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 38
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 20
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 6
Ki-83 x 44
Ki-84a Frank x 7
Ki-84b Frank x 74
Ki-84r Frank x 140
Ki-100-I Tony x 8
Ki-102b Randy x 43

Allied aircraft
F8F-1 Bearcat x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F8F-1 Bearcat: 2 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 67,91

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
Barracuda II x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Barracuda II: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Naka

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Barracuda II bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 16
A6M8 Zero x 20
A7M2 Sam x 43
J2M5 Jack x 52
N1K5-J George x 46
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 28
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 16
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 6
Ki-83 x 38
Ki-84a Frank x 6
Ki-84b Frank x 66
Ki-84r Frank x 133
Ki-100-I Tony x 7
Ki-102b Randy x 34

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 Spcl x 12
Lancaster B.1 FE x 29
B-24J Liberator x 4
B-29-25 Superfort x 9
P-38L Lightning x 67
P-47N Thunderbolt x 87
P-51D Mustang x 52

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 Spcl: 4 destroyed, 8 damaged
Lancaster B.1 FE: 2 destroyed, 19 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
P-38L Lightning: 3 destroyed
P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed

Light Industry hits 2
Heavy Industry hits 9
Mitsubishi Ha-32 hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Lancaster B.1 Spcl bombing from 9000 feet *
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 10
A6M8 Zero x 14
A7M2 Sam x 23
J2M5 Jack x 42
N1K5-J George x 36
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 18
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 11
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 4
Ki-83 x 26
Ki-84a Frank x 4
Ki-84b Frank x 46
Ki-84r Frank x 112
Ki-100-I Tony x 6
Ki-102b Randy x 25

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 FE x 24
B-24J Liberator x 3
B-29-25 Superfort x 15
P-38L Lightning x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 FE: 6 destroyed, 15 damaged
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
P-38L Lightning: 4 destroyed

Heavy Industry hits 28
Light Industry hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb, 6 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 5
A6M8 Zero x 8
A7M2 Sam x 17
J2M5 Jack x 22
N1K5-J George x 23
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2
Ki-83 x 17
Ki-84a Frank x 3
Ki-84b Frank x 27
Ki-84r Frank x 65
Ki-100-I Tony x 3
Ki-102b Randy x 17

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 64
B-29-25 Superfort x 4
P-38L Lightning x 17
P-47N Thunderbolt x 51
P-51D Mustang x 143

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M8 Zero: 2 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-83: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 destroyed, 34 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed by flak
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 3 destroyed

Mitsubishi Ha-32 hits 22
Heavy Industry hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 63 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
A6M8 Zero x 5
A7M2 Sam x 12
J2M5 Jack x 14
N1K5-J George x 14
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 7
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2
Ki-83 x 8
Ki-84a Frank x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 50
Ki-100-I Tony x 2
Ki-102b Randy x 8

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 destroyed by flak

Mitsubishi Ha-32 hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagoya , at 111,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
A6M8 Zero x 5
A7M2 Sam x 11
J2M5 Jack x 11
N1K5-J George x 10
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 1
Ki-83 x 6
Ki-84b Frank x 11
Ki-84r Frank x 45
Ki-100-I Tony x 2
Ki-102b Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 75

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 6 destroyed, 43 damaged

Resources hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Nice!

You should take comfort in the fact that, as of November 22, 1945 you have outscored the Allies in aircraft points lost, army points lost and points for ships sunk. Three very nice hallmarks of a well-fought campaign, obvert.

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ORIGINAL: obvert

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Nice!

You should take comfort in the fact that, as of November 22, 1945 you have outscored the Allies in aircraft points lost, army points lost and points for ships sunk. Three very nice hallmarks of a well-fought campaign, obvert.


I'm hiding away most of the remaining ships in the hope I can get equal airframe points for them if he does ever try a naval strike into the Home Islands.

One thing I've contemplated in my Allied games (keep this on the down low, although I've already ruled it out in my other games, I'm pretty sure) is some method of getting into the inland sea. I think the weak point of the fortress system is Yura. It only has 8 x 15cm CD and 2 x 14cm CD guns. Since it's in the non-base hex and has no forts it might be possible to dismantle some of these by a large 4E strike followed by a concentrated BB infiltration.

This would only get the Allies to Kobe, which has a much better fort with 2 x 25cm CD guns as well as a bunch of other cruiser sized and smaller guns, and will likely be fortified plus having x4 defensive terrain. Still, a bombardment of Kobe and destruction of anything sitting there would be a good point haul, plus it might be an interesting and less defended invasion point. I for one don't have larger forces there as I've concentrated o keeping the likely clear hex landing spots defended, and the inland sea seems like the last place the Allies would try. I do have a bunch of units sitting in Strat mode ready to go though, and many would make it there within a turn, so it would be a very risky move.

Oita is possible too, but has more guns, plus forts, and probably mines. It would allow a deeper penetration, but Hiroshima has a very large contingent of 12.7 DP guns. For invasions though a few of the other nearby bases to the West would be ideal.

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The Allies mostly concentrate on milk-runs in China and ground action reducing Hangchow and Kukong these days. There is a limited Strat bombing strike at Hakodate that gets fires over 300k and still doesn't burn out all of the industry there. Odd. I have no defences on this base, and have limited NF in the area which didn't react. I'm prioritising the bigger targets now.

A shown below, supply drops for the first time below 1 million. Things are getting lean. Plenty of fuel and HI though!
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Night Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 35

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 3 damaged

Manpower hits 261
Fires 164189

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Kukong (79,57)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 43975 troops, 822 guns, 1116 vehicles, Assault Value = 1164

Defending force 16696 troops, 113 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 326

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 611

Japanese adjusted defense: 859

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1274 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 91 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 7 (4 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
246 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
1st Guards Airborne Div /3
9th Australian Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
6th Marine Division
4th Armoured Bde /8
168th Field Artillery Regiment
55th Heavy Regiment
134th (East Ang) Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
7th Australian Div /9

Defending units:
94th Division
26th RGC Temp. Division
8th Area Army
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment

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Ground combat at Hangchow (90,55)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 143950 troops, 1926 guns, 5168 vehicles, Assault Value = 4533

Defending force 45052 troops, 350 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 1179

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 2432

Japanese adjusted defense: 1105

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4613 casualties reported
Squads: 81 destroyed, 167 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 65 (14 destroyed, 51 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
1599 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 160 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 45 (5 destroyed, 40 disabled)
Vehicles lost 71 (5 destroyed, 66 disabled)

Assaulting units:
93rd Infantry Division
CenPac Amphib Tank Brigade
371st Rifle Division
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
68th NKVD Regiment
73rd Tank Brigade
144th Rifle Division
37th Infantry Division
395th Guards SU Regiment
33rd Tank Battalion
378th Guards SU Regiment
335th Guards SU Regiment
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
5th Guards Tank Corps
103rd Rifle Division
74th Tank Brigade
3rd Motorized Rifle Regiment
2nd/307th Gd.Mortar Regiment
56th Rifle Corps
107th Hvy.Howitzer Brigade
1137th Howitzer Regiment
20th Guards Mortar Brigade
550th BM Howitzer Regiment
50th Cannon Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
1133rd Howitzer Regiment
15th Guards Cannon Brigade
934th Aviation Grp EAB /2

Defending units:
301st Ind.Infantry Battalion
117th Division
60th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Ind.Mixed Rgt /2
III/84th Naval Guard Unit
60th Division
3rd RGC Division
Oshima Naval Guard Unit
5th Ind.Infantry Brigade
107th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st RGC Division
I/66th Nav Gd /1
184th JAAF AF Bn
117th AA Regiment
15th Base Force
4th Base Force
185th JAAF AF Bn

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Hiroshima is a target on the 24th. I love when Allied players forget about balloons and set B-29s to 6k! Thanks.

This is an example of why I don't like to set daylight planes to night CAP. It probably helped with deterring and damaging bombers, but the losses for Ki-102b FB are extreme compared to virtually the same model plane in the Randy Ki-102c NF, and each have similar pilots. There are more Randy b but still, it's not productive for the defense.

Hangchow falls on the 24th. It's tough to lose all of these troop points, but I see no way to avoid it. The supply cost of moving and then feeding them outweigh the VP hit of losing them at this point, even if I could air transport some out.

On the 25th nothing of note happens, and even some of the millruns in China take the day off.

On the 26th Kukong falls and Chikhiang is shocked over the river. Due to supply issues the big negative the Allies achieve isn't as damaging as I'd like. Such is late 45.
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Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 106,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 9
P1Y2-S Frances x 9
Ki-102b Randy x 74
Ki-102c Randy x 8

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 Spcl x 3
Lancaster B.1 FE x 3
B-24J Liberator x 12
B-29-25 Superfort x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102b Randy: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 Spcl: 2 damaged
Lancaster B.1 FE: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29-25 Superfort: 9 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 10
Fires 6250

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Lancaster B.1 Spcl bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 12000 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 106,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 9
P1Y2-S Frances x 9
Ki-102b Randy x 45
Ki-102c Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7
B-29-25 Superfort x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 1
Fires 7260

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 106,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 12
P1Y2-S Frances x 9
Ki-102b Randy x 34
Ki-102c Randy x 10

Allied aircraft
Mosquito B.35 x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Mosquito B.35: 3 destroyed

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Night Air attack on Hiroshima/Kure , at 106,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 3
P1Y2-S Frances x 1
Ki-102b Randy x 5
Ki-102c Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Manpower hits 2
Fires 154880

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Hangchow (90,55)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 170712 troops, 2431 guns, 5387 vehicles, Assault Value = 4684

Defending force 40189 troops, 335 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 870

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 2219

Japanese adjusted defense: 497

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Hangchow !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84b Frank: 7 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-83: 2 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4004 casualties reported
Squads: 159 destroyed, 287 disabled
Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 77 disabled
Engineers: 100 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 80 (47 destroyed, 33 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
1482 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 179 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 38 (1 destroyed, 37 disabled)
Vehicles lost 57 (2 destroyed, 55 disabled)

Assaulting units:
5th Guards Tank Corps
371st Rifle Division
378th Guards SU Regiment
37th Infantry Division
73rd Tank Brigade
93rd Infantry Division
103rd Rifle Division
144th Rifle Division
33rd Tank Battalion
345th Rifle Division
335th Guards SU Regiment
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
74th Tank Brigade
68th NKVD Regiment
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
CenPac Amphib Tank Brigade
395th Guards SU Regiment
3rd Motorized Rifle Regiment
1137th Howitzer Regiment
56th Rifle Corps
1133rd Howitzer Regiment
550th BM Howitzer Regiment
2nd/307th Gd.Mortar Regiment
107th Hvy.Howitzer Brigade
XXXIII Indian Corps
20th Guards Mortar Brigade
50th Cannon Regiment
15th Guards Cannon Brigade
1122nd Cannon Regiment
934th Aviation Grp EAB /2

Defending units:
5th Ind.Infantry Brigade
60th Division
107th Ind.Mixed Brigade
117th Division
60th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Oshima Naval Guard Unit
185th JAAF AF Bn
III/84th Nav Gd /1
184th JAAF AF Bn
4th Base Force
1st RGC Division
15th Base Force
3rd RGC Division
117th AA Regiment
I/66th Nav Gd /1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 26, 1945
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Ground combat at Kukong (79,57)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 43908 troops, 821 guns, 1120 vehicles, Assault Value = 1157

Defending force 14286 troops, 102 guns, 77 vehicles, Assault Value = 165

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 597

Japanese adjusted defense: 77

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Kukong !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3060 casualties reported
Squads: 92 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 247 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 54 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 44 (44 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 64 (64 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
1st Guards Airborne Div /3
6th Marine Division
9th Australian Division
4th Armoured Bde /8
55th Heavy Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
7th Australian Div /9
134th (East Ang) Regiment
2nd British Div /6

Defending units:
94th Division
8th Area Army
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment

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Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 30894 troops, 332 guns, 1452 vehicles, Assault Value = 979

Defending force 24667 troops, 185 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 731

Allied adjusted assault: 325

Japanese adjusted defense: 1789

Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
523 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1527 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 136 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 26 (4 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Vehicles lost 35 (7 destroyed, 28 disabled)

Assaulting units:
255th Indian Tank Brigade
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps

Defending units:
54th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th Cavalry Brigade
108th Division
6th Garrison Unit
774th Ind.Infantry Battalion
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
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Fires still burning and damaging stuff at Hiroshima two turns after the night strike.




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Maebashi takes a bit hit from the beasts. A lot of front line fighter factories wiped out, but I do have good pools and still have more producing elsewhere for now. At Matsuyama the Allies again head in for the balloons at 6k and a lot of 4Es go down to ops and too flak.

The Allied armies are still stuck at the crossing point NW of Sian near Tienshui. Supply is nearly gone but this DA is repelled for larger Allied losses.

At Kweilin I've decided to send troops in by air to stop the single armoured unit there and force a larger army to move in if he wants it. I don't like the idea of this area be swarmed yet.

At Chanteh an Indian ID crosses and is stopped by a solid IJA force defending the river.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 27, 1945
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Night Air attack on Matsuyama , at 105,59

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 4
P1Y2-S Frances x 8
Ki-102c Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 FE x 11
B-24J Liberator x 26
B-29-25 Superfort x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 FE: 2 damaged
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 9 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged

Resources hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb, 6 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 32
P1Y2-S Frances x 15
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 8
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 14
Ki-102c Randy x 27

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102c Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 7000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 29
P1Y2-S Frances x 11
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 12
Ki-102c Randy x 28

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 15
B-29-25 Superfort x 62
B-29B Superfort x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed
Ki-102c Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 5 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 4 damaged

Ki-84r Frank factory hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 88289 troops, 1497 guns, 1876 vehicles, Assault Value = 2011

Defending force 61392 troops, 529 guns, 824 vehicles, Assault Value = 1585

Allied adjusted assault: 858

Japanese adjusted defense: 3595

Allied assault odds: 1 to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3158 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 109 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
Guns lost 71 (21 destroyed, 50 disabled)
Vehicles lost 31 (14 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
2496 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 251 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 37 disabled
Guns lost 61 (5 destroyed, 56 disabled)
Vehicles lost 79 (4 destroyed, 75 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
754th Tank Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
763rd Tank Battalion
4th Marine Division
33rd Infantry Division
Americal Infantry Division
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
5th Indian Division
85th Medium Regiment
I Corps Artillery
IV Indian Corps
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
77th Coast AA Regiment
87th Medium Regiment
86th Medium Regiment
Tenth US Army
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
94th Coast AA Regiment
251st Field Artillery Battalion
205th Coast AA Regiment
4th Field Artillery Battalion
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
Southwest Pacific
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XI Corps Artillery
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
18th Division
16th Division
1st Tank Division
55th Division
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
16th AA Regiment
12th Army
121st AA Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
69th Field AA Battalion

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Ground combat at Kweilin (76,54)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1044 troops, 0 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Defending force 687 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 27

Allied adjusted assault: 50

Japanese adjusted defense: 55

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion

Defending units:
2nd RGC Route Brigade

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Ground combat at Changteh (81,50)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 14128 troops, 129 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 401

Defending force 28628 troops, 211 guns, 489 vehicles, Assault Value = 885

Allied adjusted assault: 172

Japanese adjusted defense: 891

Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
654 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 112 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled

Assaulting units:
14th Indian Division

Defending units:
4th Tank Division
7th Ind.Infantry Brigade
5th Division
8th Base Force

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 28, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 28,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 31

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 5 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-83 sweeping at 26530 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on 73rd Division, at 102,58 (Nagasaki/Sasebo)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 10
N1K5-J George x 12
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 5
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-100-II Tony x 3
Ki-102b Randy x 3

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 24
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 13 destroyed, 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A-26B Invader bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Banzai! - Ikura M. in a N1K5-J George rams a A-26B Invader for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kanno L. in a N1K5-J George rams a A-26B Invader for the Emperor

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Ground combat at Kweilin (76,54)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1044 troops, 0 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Defending force 675 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Allied adjusted assault: 92

Japanese adjusted defense: 23

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion

Defending units:
2nd RGC Route Brigade

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A good day in the air. Maebashi is a bit beaten up, but it's much harder to destroy factories with direct tartgeting rather than manpower strikes.




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Status: offline 		There is a chance that I might get this plane, the Ki-94, by the end of December of the factories aren't knocked out before then. I have never used it so it would be great to give it a try. The issue is that I'll be fighting F-80s by then too!




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Nagano, Nagasaki, Akita and Sendai are all on the target list for night strikes on the 29th. Still some B-17G set to 6k which really helps the defense.

Over Manila the Ki-83 find more CAP and have their way again. This is gaining me valuable points. The IJN has worse luck as the CL Sendai witch was supposed to flank in last turn didn't make the whole journey and was probably sighted, giving time for the Allies to hide the precious fat transports away in the port. Only got one LST.

Dan is so careful, so diligent in only moving as a giant pack of hundred of ships covered by the full DS, that it's been next to impossible to find targets at this stage. It slows his pace incredibly, so there is a downside to that tactic for the Allies. I'll keep looking though. he has to be vulnerable somewhere. He still has left a lot of bases in his rear LOC which have good supply and decent airfields.

Kweilin holds in a minor victory for the IJA. The Allies shock and fail miserably to take the base after the tanks are bombed and more of the 2nd ID flies in.

At Chikhiang the Allies also fail to get a positive and suffer a bit, and near Tienshui a tank only assault backfires. A few positive VPs ta balance heavy losses elsewhere.
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Manila at 79,77, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai

Allied Ships
LST-221, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Reduced sighting due to 21% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 21% moonlight: 10,000 yards

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Lubang at 78,78, Range 15,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai, Shell hits 3

Allied Ships
DD Knapp

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 21,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 15,000 yards

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 32,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 27

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 4
Corsair IV x 3
P-51D Mustang x 22
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2
F6F-5 Hellcat x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 4 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-83 sweeping at 26530 feet

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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 44,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 29

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 2
Corsair IV x 2
P-51D Mustang x 8
P-40N5 Warhawk x 1
F6F-5 Hellcat x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 3 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet

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Ground combat at Kweilin (76,54)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1044 troops, 0 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Defending force 2088 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 86

Allied adjusted assault: 80

Japanese adjusted defense: 77

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
220 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion

Defending units:
2nd RGC Route Brigade
2nd Guards Div /1

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 2

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 Spcl x 3
Lancaster B.1 FE x 6
B-24J Liberator x 15
B-29-25 Superfort x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 Spcl: 1 damaged
Lancaster B.1 Spcl: 1 destroyed by flak
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Manpower hits 3
Fires 915

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Lancaster B.1 Spcl bombing from 16000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 12000 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 10 damaged

Manpower hits 14
Fires 5110

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Akita , at 117,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 33

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 12 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagano , at 113,58

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y2-S Frances x 13
Ki-102c Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 38

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 8 damaged

Resources hits 36

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11844 troops, 445 guns, 697 vehicles, Assault Value = 1842

Defending force 58732 troops, 494 guns, 805 vehicles, Assault Value = 1385

Allied adjusted assault: 113

Japanese adjusted defense: 2887

Allied assault odds: 1 to 25

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
182 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 14 (5 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 11 (5 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 79 (7 destroyed, 72 disabled)

Assaulting units:
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
4th Marine Division
763rd Tank Battalion
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
33rd Infantry Division
5th Indian Division
86th Medium Regiment
Southwest Pacific
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
251st Field Artillery Battalion
77th Coast AA Regiment
4th Field Artillery Battalion
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
85th Medium Regiment
205th Coast AA Regiment
IV Indian Corps
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
85th British AT Gun Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
87th Medium Regiment
Tenth US Army
XI Corps Artillery
94th Coast AA Regiment
I Corps Artillery
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
1st Tank Division
18th Division
16th Division
55th Division
3rd RF Gun Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
16th AA Regiment
12th Army
121st AA Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
69th Field AA Battalion

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Ground combat at Kweilin (76,54)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 896 troops, 0 guns, 77 vehicles, Assault Value = 45

Defending force 3262 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 128

Allied adjusted assault: 9

Japanese adjusted defense: 223

Allied assault odds: 1 to 24 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion

Defending units:
2nd RGC Route Brigade
2nd Guards Div /1

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Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 61485 troops, 515 guns, 3531 vehicles, Assault Value = 2478

Defending force 39225 troops, 348 guns, 201 vehicles, Assault Value = 1047

Allied adjusted assault: 1595

Japanese adjusted defense: 2269

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1009 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 28 disabled
Guns lost 15 (4 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1329 casualties reported
Squads: 27 destroyed, 182 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 61 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 55 (3 destroyed, 52 disabled)
Vehicles lost 117 (11 destroyed, 106 disabled)

Assaulting units:
255th Indian Tank Brigade
766th Tank Battalion
111th Tank Division
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
150th RAC Regiment
710th Tank Battalion
735th SU Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
172nd Brigade
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
254th Armoured Brigade
43rd Tank Brigade
2nd Indian Medium Regiment

Defending units:
774th Ind.Infantry Battalion
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
6th Garrison Unit
54th Ind.Mixed Brigade
108th Division
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
102nd Division
4th Cavalry Brigade
49th Ind.Mixed Bde /2
122nd AA Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th RF Gun Battalion
9th RF Gun Battalion

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December. Never thought I'd play to this point in an AE game. If I can make 46 with some fighting ability I'll be over the moon.

Things get worse every day somewhere. Troops being gradually culled by Soviet airstrikes near Peiping. Supply dwindling along the length of the Korean defensive lines. Troops gradually crumbling after months of holding a defensive position in the mountains North of Sian. A huge army now besieging and breaking down the defences at the key holding point of Chikhiang.

it's been a while since I've played allies in China in 42, but this is worse, from what I remember. The air strikes are many hundreds of modern 2Es and hundreds more 4Es. The ground troops are T-34 and 44 USA/MC infantry, Pershings, 155mm Long Toms and Soviet rockets brigades. With some supply there would be holding places still, but even with industry mostly intact (due to the HR in China Torsten asked for in the beginning) the output and availability is reducing daily.

On the 1st the Allies scrapped some more VPs from the CAP at Manila. Every little bit counts.

On the 2nd the Allies strike at Toyama, massively. The whole shebang. They pretty much wipe out the industry but do lose some planes to flak, although seem to have figured out not to set them below 7k now to avoid the balloons. They also send three groups of 2E from China to Nagasaki where they are completely wiped out by the CAP. I'm assuming this is a mistake setting. Often when bombing ground troops if something moves some planes will reset to no target.

So, the good news is that there is still supply in the major centres on Honshu, although Kyushu is getting low now. Still, I can fill in CAP groups with new airframes, which is my only really effective tactic now to gain points.
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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 47,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 29

Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 7
Corsair IV x 3
P-51D Mustang x 6
P-40N5 Warhawk x 1
F6F-5 Hellcat x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet

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Night Air attack on Toyama , at 112,57

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102c Randy x 4

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 56

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 10 damaged

Manpower hits 1
Fires 620

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 7000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 3rd Guards Division, at 102,58 (Nagasaki/Sasebo)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 25
J7W1 Shinden x 3
N1K5-J George x 45
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-84r Frank x 10
Ki-102b Randy x 3

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 15
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 5
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 6 destroyed
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 3 destroyed
PBJ-1J Mitchell: 3 destroyed

Banzai! - Kawahara M. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a PBJ-1D Mitchell for the Emperor
Banzai! - Hashimoto K. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a A-26B Invader for the Emperor
Banzai! - Maeda J. in a Ki-84r Frank rams a A-26B Invader for the Emperor
Banzai! - Asada L. in a N1K5-J George rams a PBJ-1J Mitchell for the Emperor

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Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 150759 troops, 1741 guns, 5032 vehicles, Assault Value = 4519

Defending force 38223 troops, 342 guns, 201 vehicles, Assault Value = 977

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 3029

Japanese adjusted defense: 973

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2389 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 135 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 22 disabled
Guns lost 76 (20 destroyed, 56 disabled)
Vehicles lost 28 (7 destroyed, 21 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1887 casualties reported
Squads: 32 destroyed, 261 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 89 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 49 disabled
Guns lost 51 (1 destroyed, 50 disabled)
Vehicles lost 91 (18 destroyed, 73 disabled)

Assaulting units:
111th Tank Division
735th SU Regiment
5th Australian Division
710th Tank Battalion
255th Indian Tank Brigade
766th Tank Battalion
9th Indian Division
172nd Brigade
43rd Tank Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
254th Armoured Brigade
150th RAC Regiment
23rd Indian Division
32nd Infantry Division
50th Tank Brigade
7th Indian Division
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
25th Mechanized Brigade
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
XV Indian Corps
2nd Indian Medium Regiment

Defending units:
54th Ind.Mixed Brigade
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
4th Cavalry Brigade
108th Division
102nd Division
6th Garrison Unit
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
774th Ind.Infantry Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th RF Gun Battalion
9th RF Gun Battalion
122nd AA Regiment
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
49th Ind.Mixed Bde /2

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When did the Allies exceed the Japanese 'Aircraft Points Lost' threshhold? It seems to me relatively recently? Since then you've built a 2500 point buffer in that category. Hopefully, ongoing Allied air points lost will make it impossible for the Allies to get another (unanswered) 39k VPs surplus within the next month.

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Obvert,

When did the Allies exceed the Japanese 'Aircraft Points Lost' threshhold? It seems to me relatively recently? Since then you've built a 2500 point buffer in that category. Hopefully, ongoing Allied air points lost will make it impossible for the Allies to get another (unanswered) 39k VPs surplus within the next month.


I think the Allied air loss points exceeded the Japanese air loss points in early October. (On one info screen I found the difference was something like 500 VPs on Sept 22 in favour of the Allies).

The main uptick in Allied VPs recently was from the Bomb dropped on Tokyo. I think that was something like 28k. I'd have to look back. Strat bombing has been another big contributor, and the LCU loss VPs.

He's dropped two bombs, so as Alfred mentioned, if he drops another the Allies can only achieve a draw.

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Niigata, Iwaki and Toyama are targeted on the 3rd. Sometimes thunderstorms are the best defence.

No bombing on the 4th, but lots against the troops in China. It's whittling them away so that even in good defensive positions, there isn't much hope to take a decent chunk off of the Allied masses. the IJA defenders did manage to take out some tanks in an armour only attack near Tiensui.

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Night Air attack on Niigata , at 114,57

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Iwaki , at 116,59

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 7
B-29-25 Superfort x 55

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 6 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Toyama , at 112,57

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 15
B-29-25 Superfort x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged

Resources hits 7
Fires 1938

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet *
City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11604 troops, 442 guns, 699 vehicles, Assault Value = 1895

Defending force 63307 troops, 510 guns, 792 vehicles, Assault Value = 1509

Allied adjusted assault: 71

Japanese adjusted defense: 1630

Allied assault odds: 1 to 22

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
295 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (3 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 100 (26 destroyed, 74 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th Marine Division
Americal Infantry Division
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
3rd Cavalry Regiment
33rd Infantry Division
763rd Tank Battalion
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
754th Tank Battalion
5th Indian Division
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
Southwest Pacific
251st Field Artillery Battalion
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
85th Medium Regiment
86th Medium Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
XI Corps Artillery
4th Field Artillery Battalion
205th Coast AA Regiment
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
IV Indian Corps
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
77th Coast AA Regiment
Tenth US Army
I Corps Artillery
94th Coast AA Regiment
28th Group Army
87th Medium Regiment
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
55th Division
1st Tank Division
16th Division
18th Division
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
16th AA Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Army
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd RF Gun Battalion
121st AA Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
69th Field AA Battalion

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Ground combat at 79,58 (near Kukong)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 736 troops, 12 guns, 91 vehicles, Assault Value = 122

Defending force 9593 troops, 62 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 104

Allied adjusted assault: 52

Japanese adjusted defense: 83

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th Armoured Bde /8

Defending units:
94th Division
8th Area Army
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment

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Still getting some decent Allied air points even on quieter turns. Supply is holding around 900k+ for now. Fingers crossed. (At least the scarcity of resources is not as much of the problem when half of the LI has been bombed out).




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It's now been exactly four years of this campaign. Seven plus in real time.

Not much on the 5th, but big strikes at Yokohama commence on the 6th . The fires don't get much over 50k in the night, but there are residual fires still burning each day and that will mean continued damage. The flak does well, both in limiting the strikes and hitting planes. The NF are getting worn down though, and most are bleeding from Tokyo, so it's weakening that base as well, not that he'll ever decide to strike it!

North of Sian the Allies get a 1:1 and I think it's all over, but then they only manage a 1:2 the next day, so maybe it'll still hold for a bit.

Chikhiang falls dramatically. Lots of Allied troops here.

Most of the action is still ground bombing in China, so not too exciting to report.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 5, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 43,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 23

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 3
P-40N5 Warhawk x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 5 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet

CAP engaged:
No.2 Sqn RIAF with Corsair IV (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 22000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 22000.
Raid is overhead
8th FG/36th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 11 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes

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Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 87132 troops, 1493 guns, 1865 vehicles, Assault Value = 1892

Defending force 62879 troops, 502 guns, 775 vehicles, Assault Value = 1491

Allied adjusted assault: 1342

Japanese adjusted defense: 1231

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1881 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 145 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 44 (6 destroyed, 38 disabled)
Vehicles lost 89 (13 destroyed, 76 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1479 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 61 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 26 (1 destroyed, 25 disabled)
Vehicles lost 26 (7 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Assaulting units:
33rd Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
4th Marine Division
Americal Infantry Division
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
763rd Tank Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
5th Indian Division
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
I Corps Artillery
85th British AT Gun Regiment
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
94th Coast AA Regiment
86th Medium Regiment
4th Field Artillery Battalion
Southwest Pacific
251st Field Artillery Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
28th Group Army
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
85th Medium Regiment
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
Tenth US Army
205th Coast AA Regiment
IV Indian Corps
77th Coast AA Regiment
87th Medium Regiment
XI Corps Artillery
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
1st Tank Division
16th Division
55th Division
18th Division
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Army
16th AA Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
121st AA Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
69th Field AA Battalion

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Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 201822 troops, 3222 guns, 6560 vehicles, Assault Value = 5772

Defending force 35201 troops, 316 guns, 193 vehicles, Assault Value = 799

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 3442

Japanese adjusted defense: 334

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Chihkiang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
12347 casualties reported
Squads: 286 destroyed, 165 disabled
Non Combat: 329 destroyed, 77 disabled
Engineers: 45 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 179 (169 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 195 (195 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 14

Allied ground losses:
1825 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 83 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 31 disabled
Guns lost 43 (8 destroyed, 35 disabled)
Vehicles lost 99 (4 destroyed, 95 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
5th Australian Division
23rd Indian Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
150th RAC Regiment
6th Australian Division
7th Indian Division
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
766th Tank Battalion
111th Tank Division
7th Australian Division
50th Tank Brigade
43rd Tank Brigade
255th Indian Tank Brigade
735th SU Regiment
172nd Brigade
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
710th Tank Battalion
32nd Infantry Division
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
9th Indian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
25th Mechanized Brigade
131st Field Artillery Battalion
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
X Corps Artillery
8th Medium Regiment
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
98th Coast AA Regiment
1st Medium Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
208th Coast AA Regiment
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
17th AA Division
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
1141st Cannon Regiment
408th PVO AA Battalion
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
461st Mortar Regiment
XV Indian Corps
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
165th Field Artillery Battalion
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
152nd Cannon Brigade
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
37th VVS Base Force

Defending units:
6th Garrison Unit
108th Division
102nd Division
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
774th Ind.Infantry Battalion
9th RF Gun Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
54th Ind.Mixed Brigade
122nd AA Regiment
4th Cavalry Brigade
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
4th RF Gun Battalion
49th Ind.Mixed Bde /2


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Night Air attack on Yokohama/Yokosuka , at 113,61

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 33
P1Y2-S Frances x 14
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 22
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 14
Ki-102b Randy x 12
Ki-102c Randy x 21

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 FE x 8
B-24J Liberator x 32
B-29-25 Superfort x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 FE: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 16 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29-25 Superfort: 4 damaged

Manpower hits 2
Fires 660

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb, 6 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 86090 troops, 1492 guns, 1859 vehicles, Assault Value = 1754

Defending force 61089 troops, 489 guns, 750 vehicles, Assault Value = 1338

Allied adjusted assault: 832

Japanese adjusted defense: 964

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3481 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 117 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 49 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 38 (4 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (12 destroyed, 25 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2110 casualties reported
Squads: 75 destroyed, 56 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 51 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 44 disabled
Guns lost 61 (4 destroyed, 57 disabled)
Vehicles lost 32 (2 destroyed, 30 disabled)

Assaulting units:
33rd Infantry Division
Americal Infantry Division
4th Marine Division
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
763rd Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
5th Indian Division
I Corps Artillery
86th Medium Regiment
87th Medium Regiment
77th Coast AA Regiment
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
4th Field Artillery Battalion
Tenth US Army
94th Coast AA Regiment
IV Indian Corps
85th British AT Gun Regiment
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
85th Medium Regiment
205th Coast AA Regiment
251st Field Artillery Battalion
28th Group Army
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XI Corps Artillery
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Southwest Pacific
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
16th Division
18th Division
1st Tank Division
55th Division
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Army
16th AA Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd RF Gun Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
121st AA Regiment
69th Field AA Battalion

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More Yokohama strikes. More burning. Fires this time get up over 100k in the night phase. A lot of flak losses for the allies, but the base is suffering.

Near Tienshui in the NW the IJA holds again, and both sides are being slowly ground down. Kweilin falls in the South and Liuchow will be reinforced. There is now a partial retreat happening along holding points between Indochina, Burma and China. I need some of those IDs back now and so I'll let a few of the Chinese hordes begin to move. It's time to pull back to a tighter, more dense formation to attempt a defense of Chungking and the central plains.
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Night Air attack on Yokohama/Yokosuka , at 113,61

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 26
P1Y2-S Frances x 13
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 17
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 9
Ki-102b Randy x 9
Ki-102c Randy x 23

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 FE x 7
B-24J Liberator x 20
B-29-25 Superfort x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 14 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged

Manpower hits 8
Fires 7492

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb, 6 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 76,50 (near Kweiyang)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1256 troops, 0 guns, 92 vehicles, Assault Value = 2716

Defending force 15555 troops, 126 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 201

Allied adjusted assault: 31

Japanese adjusted defense: 40

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
280 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
255th Indian Tank Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
766th Tank Battalion
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
50th Tank Brigade
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
150th RAC Regiment
111th Tank Division
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
710th Tank Battalion
172nd Brigade
735th SU Regiment
43rd Tank Brigade
25th Mechanized Brigade

Defending units:
102nd Division
108th Division
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th Cavalry Brigade
4th RF Gun Battalion
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
6th Garrison Unit
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
122nd AA Regiment
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment

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Ground combat at 79,50 (near Chihkiang)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 10000 troops, 69 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 373

Defending force 5013 troops, 29 guns, 416 vehicles, Assault Value = 215

Allied adjusted assault: 478

Japanese adjusted defense: 700

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 15 (7 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
364 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
17th Motorised Division

Defending units:
4th Tank Division

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 9, 1945
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Night Air attack on Yokohama/Yokosuka , at 113,61

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 18
P1Y2-S Frances x 12
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 9
Ki-102b Randy x 4
Ki-102c Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 FE x 17
B-24J Liberator x 35
B-29-25 Superfort x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 15 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
AMc Ayaha Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Manpower hits 2
Fires 24961

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb, 6 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Yokohama/Yokosuka , at 113,61

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2
Ki-102b Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged

Manpower hits 1
Fires 101677

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Kweilin (76,54)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 31392 troops, 521 guns, 583 vehicles, Assault Value = 933

Defending force 13578 troops, 131 guns, 67 vehicles, Assault Value = 340

Allied adjusted assault: 861

Japanese adjusted defense: 299

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Kweilin !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
5049 casualties reported
Squads: 100 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 73 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 31 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 38 (30 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (37 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Allied ground losses:
314 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
6th Rifle Division
9th Colonial Division
2nd Armoured Brigade

Defending units:
105th Division
2nd Guards Div /1
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd RGC Route Brigade
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion

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Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 85312 troops, 1493 guns, 1869 vehicles, Assault Value = 1690

Defending force 58333 troops, 457 guns, 732 vehicles, Assault Value = 1118

Allied adjusted assault: 906

Japanese adjusted defense: 1000

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1181 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 151 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 27 (6 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 29 (14 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
2134 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 177 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 58 disabled
Guns lost 35 (4 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Vehicles lost 69 (10 destroyed, 59 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Americal Infantry Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
763rd Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
33rd Infantry Division
4th Marine Division
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
5th Indian Division
IV Indian Corps
251st Field Artillery Battalion
205th Coast AA Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
86th Medium Regiment
I Corps Artillery
Tenth US Army
77th Coast AA Regiment
4th Field Artillery Battalion
28th Group Army
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
85th Medium Regiment
XI Corps Artillery
87th Medium Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
94th Coast AA Regiment
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
Southwest Pacific
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
18th Division
16th Division
1st Tank Division
55th Division
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
3rd RF Gun Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
121st AA Regiment
12th Army
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
69th Field AA Battalion
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No Strat bombing these turns. I imagine there are a lot of damaged 4Es now.

The retreating forces held near Kweiyang, which may mean several fully intact and rested divisions could play a strong part in the defence here in a x2 base with 6 forts. Could at least provide a stumbling block.

Liuchow is reinforced and should also be able to hold for a while.
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Ground combat at 75,50 (near Kweiyang)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6954 troops, 24 guns, 521 vehicles, Assault Value = 2068

Defending force 40433 troops, 331 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 924

Allied adjusted assault: 200

Japanese adjusted defense: 124

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
406 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Allied ground losses:
176 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
50th Tank Brigade
255th Indian Tank Brigade
172nd Brigade
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
150th RAC Regiment
766th Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
254th Armoured Brigade
710th Tank Battalion
735th SU Regiment
111th Tank Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
43rd Tank Brigade
25th Mechanized Brigade

Defending units:
21st Division
39th Division
102nd Division
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
122nd AA Regiment
68th JNAF AF Unit
108th Division
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
15th Army
6th Garrison Unit
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
36th Field AA Battalion
60th Construction Battalion
86th JAAF AF Bn

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 11, 1945
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Ground combat at 75,50 (near Kweiyang)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 73994 troops, 1593 guns, 4121 vehicles, Assault Value = 5850

Defending force 34512 troops, 261 guns, 150 vehicles, Assault Value = 835

Allied adjusted assault: 953

Japanese adjusted defense: 754

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4746 casualties reported
Squads: 113 destroyed, 249 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 34 disabled
Guns lost 66 (12 destroyed, 54 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (3 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
422 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 78 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 45 (4 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th Australian Division
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
172nd Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
43rd Tank Brigade
762nd Tank Battalion
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
255th Indian Tank Brigade
9th Indian Division
23rd Indian Division
766th Tank Battalion
111th Tank Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
710th Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
6th Australian Division
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
32nd Infantry Division
7th Indian Division
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
735th SU Regiment
5th Australian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
25th Mechanized Brigade
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
8th Medium Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
152nd Cannon Brigade
131st Field Artillery Battalion
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
461st Mortar Regiment
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
17th AA Division
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
1141st Cannon Regiment
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
408th PVO AA Battalion
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
1st Medium Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
165th Field Artillery Battalion
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
X Corps Artillery
1917th AA Regiment
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
208th Coast AA Regiment
98th Coast AA Regiment
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
3rd Front

Defending units:
21st Division
102nd Division
39th Division
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
122nd AA Regiment
15th Army
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
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Nagasaki gets pummelled for the hundredth time. Amazing there is something left here to hit.

During the day the Allies send masses of only P-51H and P-47N (with a few Bearcats thrown in) at SW Honshu and Kyushu. It's effective and gets about a 2:1, overwhelming the CAP eventually. He still hasn't then followed with airfield strikes, which would be devastating with all of those damaged on the ground. Happy about that.

The Chinese who have walked across the Himalayas and finally pushed all of the way toward Chengtu got past my last blockade there, magically carrying all of their necessary supply for months through the mountains. Luckily my forces retreated into Chengtu which will have enough to thwart the impending shock and have some more flying in to help.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 12, 1945
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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 3

No Allied losses

Manpower hits 32
Fires 61415

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 3

No Allied losses

Manpower hits 1
Fires 189215

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shimonoseki , at 104,57

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 47,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 38
N1K2-J George x 21
N1K5-J George x 31
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 35
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 34
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-83 x 27
Ki-84a Frank x 6
Ki-84b Frank x 45
Ki-84r Frank x 6
Ki-100-I Tony x 35
Ki-100-II Tony x 26
Ki-102a Randy x 44
Ki-102b Randy x 15

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Shimonoseki , at 104,57

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 27
N1K2-J George x 15
N1K5-J George x 27
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 28
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 25
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-83 x 21
Ki-84a Frank x 3
Ki-84b Frank x 33
Ki-84r Frank x 6
Ki-100-I Tony x 28
Ki-100-II Tony x 23
Ki-102a Randy x 35
Ki-102b Randy x 15

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Shimonoseki , at 104,57

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 9
N1K2-J George x 7
N1K5-J George x 6
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 6
Ki-83 x 7
Ki-84b Frank x 8
Ki-84r Frank x 2
Ki-100-I Tony x 2
Ki-100-II Tony x 10
Ki-102a Randy x 14
Ki-102b Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
P-51H Mustang x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51H Mustang: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x P-51H Mustang sweeping at 41600 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 43,700 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 68
J7W1 Shinden x 3
N1K5-J George x 37
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 7
Ki-84r Frank x 8
Ki-102b Randy x 8

Allied aircraft
F8F-1 Bearcat x 49

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 5 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F8F-1 Bearcat: 4 destroyed

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Ground combat at 74,41 (near Chengtu)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 50261 troops, 190 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1695

Defending force 5095 troops, 18 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 194

Allied adjusted assault: 305

Japanese adjusted defense: 217

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker: supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
847 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 48 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1284 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 121 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled

Assaulting units:
77th Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese Corps
88th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
50th Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
89th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
1st Group Army

Defending units:
12th Tank Regiment
65th/B Division

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 13, 1945
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Ground combat at 74,41 (near Chengtu)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 49389 troops, 190 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1591

Defending force 5532 troops, 18 guns, 247 vehicles, Assault Value = 185

Allied adjusted assault: 326

Japanese adjusted defense: 145

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1032 casualties reported
Squads: 45 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 96 (43 destroyed, 53 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
709 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 121 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
34th Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
50th Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese Corps
77th Chinese Corps
88th Chinese Corps
89th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
1st Group Army

Defending units:
12th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
65th/B Division

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The Chinese who have walked across the Himalayas and finally pushed all of the way toward Chengtu got past my last blockade there, magically carrying all of their necessary supply for months through the mountains.

Lichens. They ate lichens.

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

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The Chinese who have walked across the Himalayas and finally pushed all of the way toward Chengtu got past my last blockade there, magically carrying all of their necessary supply for months through the mountains.

Lichens. They ate lichens.




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Massive strikes both at night and during the day on Fukuoka and Shimoneseki. Huge fires, up to 600k and 300k respectively.

Some daylight sweeps are dealt with well by the IJ CAP so at least I got a few points back this turn. P-51D didn't do well against the bleeding CAP here. Interesting there were no planes in hex and the radar called all of these in soon enough to deal with the sweeps effectively.

The Allies crash across at Nanning again, and this time the IJA is well reduced, giving the attackers a 1:1, but at least they took significant disablements. I should have left another ID here, but they'll still have to move into Liuchow eventually as well, which will be more well defended.

At Kweiyang the Allies DA and don't lower forts, so that is good. We'll see how much more is coming as a few units are still moving here. I also have two more IDs to add in. Supply is still very low, so it won't be a long stand I fear.

Near Tienshui the IJA is finally pushed back after a few months of stalemate. I'll use the remainder of these troops to attempt a defense at Lanchow since it still has decent supply and since they retreated that way.
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Night Air attack on Shimonoseki , at 104,57

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 2
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 4
Ki-102c Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 FE x 3
B-24J Liberator x 35
B-29-25 Superfort x 11
B-29B Superfort x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 7 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged

Manpower hits 214
Fires 112625

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb, 6 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6
B-29-25 Superfort x 51
B-29B Superfort x 14

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged

Manpower hits 327
Fires 191100

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 3

No Allied losses

Manpower hits 29
Fires 559700

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Shimonoseki , at 104,57

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 Spcl x 5

No Allied losses

Manpower hits 1
Fires 318366

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Lancaster B.1 Spcl bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 12000 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 46,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 8
N1K5-J George x 41
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 12
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 9
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 14

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 44,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 5
N1K5-J George x 37
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 5
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 17

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 44,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
N1K5-J George x 23
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 13
Ki-100-II Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 6 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 46,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 1
N1K5-J George x 16
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 8
Ki-100-II Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Allied aircraft
F8F-1 Bearcat x 16
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 6

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 4 damaged

Light Industry hits 1
Fires 244080

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 120932 troops, 1083 guns, 398 vehicles, Assault Value = 3832

Defending force 16229 troops, 146 guns, 80 vehicles, Assault Value = 507

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 1611

Japanese adjusted defense: 1437

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
734 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 128 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 34 (2 destroyed, 32 disabled)
Vehicles lost 26 (1 destroyed, 25 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
4557 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 537 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Guns lost 46 (2 destroyed, 44 disabled)

Assaulting units:
3rd New Chinese Corps
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
20th Indian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
49th Chinese Corps
11th (East African) Division
6th New Chinese Corps
32nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Belfast Heavy AA Regiment
2nd West African AA Regiment

Defending units:
6th Division
14th Tank Regiment
56th Field AA Battalion
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion

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Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 84849 troops, 1493 guns, 1873 vehicles, Assault Value = 1644

Defending force 55542 troops, 400 guns, 712 vehicles, Assault Value = 964

Allied adjusted assault: 933

Japanese adjusted defense: 343

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
13835 casualties reported
Squads: 343 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 569 destroyed, 118 disabled
Engineers: 30 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 81 (79 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 178 (88 destroyed, 90 disabled)
Units retreated 7

Allied ground losses:
931 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 82 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled
Guns lost 36 (4 destroyed, 32 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
4th Marine Division
33rd Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
763rd Tank Battalion
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
5th Indian Division
I Corps Artillery
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XI Corps Artillery
251st Field Artillery Battalion
87th Medium Regiment
IV Indian Corps
94th Coast AA Regiment
Southwest Pacific
85th British AT Gun Regiment
205th Coast AA Regiment
28th Group Army
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
86th Medium Regiment
Tenth US Army
4th Field Artillery Battalion
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
77th Coast AA Regiment
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
85th Medium Regiment
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
1st Tank Division
55th Division
18th Division
16th Division
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Army
121st AA Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment


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Ground combat at Kweiyang (74,49)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 102727 troops, 1907 guns, 5411 vehicles, Assault Value = 5833

Defending force 79362 troops, 595 guns, 296 vehicles, Assault Value = 1944

Allied adjusted assault: 1937

Japanese adjusted defense: 5305

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1811 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 200 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 32 (3 destroyed, 29 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (20 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1099 casualties reported
Squads: 45 destroyed, 113 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 127 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 34 (4 destroyed, 30 disabled)
Vehicles lost 222 (20 destroyed, 202 disabled)

Assaulting units:
710th Tank Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
9th Indian Division
5th Australian Division
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
150th RAC Regiment
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
255th Indian Tank Brigade
735th SU Regiment
193rd Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
32nd Infantry Division
23rd Indian Division
766th Tank Battalion
7th Indian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
172nd Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
111th Tank Division
43rd Tank Brigade
6th Australian Division
7th Australian Division
25th Mechanized Brigade
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
131st Field Artillery Battalion
461st Mortar Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
208th Coast AA Regiment
X Corps Artillery
1141st Cannon Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
1st Medium Regiment
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
165th Field Artillery Battalion
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
152nd Cannon Brigade
134th Field Artillery Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
408th PVO AA Battalion
98th Coast AA Regiment
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
17th AA Division
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
3rd Front

Defending units:
40th Division
3rd Tank Regiment
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
39th Division
21st Division
102nd Division
2nd Division
35th/B Division
60th Construction Battalion
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
15th Army
68th JNAF AF Unit
122nd AA Regiment
108th Division
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
36th Field AA Battalion
6th Garrison Unit
86th JAAF AF Bn

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Instead of a Strat bombing run on the 15th the Allies go for a night strike on the Kagoshima fields. Our night strike rules don't seem so misplaced (as several have claimed) seeing the results of this hit.

The Allies just keep chugging at Kweiyang without a break and get a fort reduction this time. Damn. They do take significant disablements. I just hope to reduce them for the final battle at Chungking. Hopefully I can get it into the 2:1 AV range where it would be a much harder siege.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 15, 1945
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Night Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 7 destroyed on ground
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-102b Randy: 2 destroyed on ground
B7A2 Grace: 3 destroyed on ground
E15K1 Norm: 1 destroyed on ground
D4Y4 Judy: 3 destroyed on ground
E13A1b Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 29
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 36

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground
D4Y4 Judy: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 81st Division, at 102,58 (Nagasaki/Sasebo)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 3
J7W1 Shinden x 11
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 1
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 1
Ki-84r Frank x 29

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 3
B-24J Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 46,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 6
N1K5-J George x 23
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 8
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 3
Ki-84b Frank x 6
Ki-100-II Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 2 destroyed

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Ground combat at Kweiyang (74,49)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 205308 troops, 3214 guns, 6352 vehicles, Assault Value = 5699

Defending force 76917 troops, 588 guns, 276 vehicles, Assault Value = 1740

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 2674

Japanese adjusted defense: 2483

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3666 casualties reported
Squads: 40 destroyed, 158 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 43 disabled
Guns lost 64 (4 destroyed, 60 disabled)
Vehicles lost 21 (3 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
3016 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 405 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 87 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 54 disabled
Guns lost 86 (6 destroyed, 80 disabled)
Vehicles lost 146 (4 destroyed, 142 disabled)

Assaulting units:
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
5th Australian Division
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
7th Australian Division
762nd Tank Battalion
254th Armoured Brigade
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
193rd Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
710th Tank Battalion
44th Tank Battalion
23rd Indian Division
735th SU Regiment
43rd Tank Brigade
32nd Infantry Division
150th RAC Regiment
111th Tank Division
172nd Brigade
6th Australian Division
9th Indian Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
766th Tank Battalion
7th Indian Division
50th Tank Brigade
25th Mechanized Brigade
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
408th PVO AA Battalion
165th Field Artillery Battalion
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
1st Medium Regiment
17th AA Division
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
152nd Cannon Brigade
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
1141st Cannon Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
98th Coast AA Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
131st Field Artillery Battalion
461st Mortar Regiment
208th Coast AA Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
X Corps Artillery
3rd Front

Defending units:
21st Division
102nd Division
2nd Division
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
39th Division
40th Division
3rd Tank Regiment
35th/B Division
6th Garrison Unit
68th JNAF AF Unit
122nd AA Regiment
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
15th Army
60th Construction Battalion
36th Field AA Battalion
108th Division
86th JAAF AF Bn

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Fukuoka continues to be pummelled. The Chinese begin to break down Nanning. I'll pull back to Liuchow with everything now.

The Allies do try some daylight raiding again, which is very welcomed. Still no attention to airfields in Japan. Only Strat bombing.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 16, 1945
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Night Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 Spcl x 6
Lancaster B.1 FE x 17
B-24J Liberator x 25
B-29-25 Superfort x 9
B-29B Superfort x 4

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 FE: 4 damaged
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged

Manpower hits 164
Fires 141325

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Lancaster B.1 Spcl bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 12000 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 7
N1K5-J George x 27
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 12
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 5
Ki-84b Frank x 10
Ki-100-II Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 43,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 5
N1K5-J George x 22
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 9
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 5
Ki-84b Frank x 11
Ki-100-II Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
N1K5-J George x 16
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 5
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 9
Ki-100-II Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 142
P-51H Mustang x 135
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 20 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak
P-51H Mustang: 2 destroyed
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 4 damaged

Light Industry hits 21
Fires 151935

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Fukuoka , at 103,57

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 1
N1K5-J George x 7
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 9
P-51H Mustang x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
P-51H Mustang: 1 destroyed

Fires 115864

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Kweiyang (74,49)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30451 troops, 1368 guns, 1201 vehicles, Assault Value = 6804

Defending force 83677 troops, 707 guns, 309 vehicles, Assault Value = 1880

Allied adjusted assault: 93

Japanese adjusted defense: 2995

Allied assault odds: 1 to 32 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
393 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
218 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 83 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 59 (6 destroyed, 53 disabled)
Vehicles lost 111 (12 destroyed, 99 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
766th Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
254th Armoured Brigade
43rd Tank Brigade
255th Indian Tank Brigade
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
7th Indian Division
52nd Rifle Division
150th RAC Regiment
111th Tank Division
762nd Tank Battalion
6th Australian Division
32nd Infantry Division
172nd Brigade
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
2nd British Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
9th Indian Division
Tenth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
First Army Combat Engineer Regiment
7th Australian Division
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
735th SU Regiment
193rd Tank Battalion
44th Tank Battalion
50th Tank Brigade
23rd Indian Division
710th Tank Battalion
5th Australian Division
25th Mechanized Brigade
408th PVO AA Battalion
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
98th Coast AA Regiment
1st Indian Medium Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
1st Medium Regiment
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
131st Field Artillery Battalion
152nd Cannon Brigade
17th AA Division
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
XIV US Corps
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
208th Coast AA Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
1141st Cannon Regiment
461st Mortar Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
X Corps Artillery
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
XV Indian Corps
8th Medium Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
165th Field Artillery Battalion
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
3rd Front

Defending units:
105th Ind.Mixed Brigade
40th Division
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
38th Ind.Mixed Brigade
55th Ind.Mixed Brigade
21st Division
3rd Tank Regiment
39th Division
2nd Division
35th/B Division
15th Army
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
60th Construction Battalion
36th Field AA Battalion
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
68th JNAF AF Unit
86th JAAF AF Bn

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 17, 1945
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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 123942 troops, 1104 guns, 462 vehicles, Assault Value = 3465

Defending force 28815 troops, 240 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 763

Allied adjusted assault: 1994

Japanese adjusted defense: 1123

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1235 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 138 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled
Vehicles lost 37 (12 destroyed, 25 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2867 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 277 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 42 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 37 (4 destroyed, 33 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
3rd New Chinese Corps
20th Indian Division
49th Chinese Corps
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
1st New Chinese Corps
11th (East African) Division
6th New Chinese Corps
1304th Construction Regiment
175th USAAF Base Force
2nd West African AA Regiment
32nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Belfast Heavy AA Regiment
137th USA Base Force
47th Construction Regiment
Eighth USAAF 3rd Division

Defending units:
1st Ind.Infantry Brigade
14th Tank Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
25th Ind.Mixed Brigade
6th Division
91st Naval Guard Unit
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
56th Field AA Battalion
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion

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obvert


Posts: 14050
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From: PDX (and now) London, UK
Status: offline 		December 18, 1945

On the 18th the Allies continue at night and during the day at Fukuoka. Got some 4Es but the base is burning away.

Huge crushing attacks now at Nanning and at Kweiyang. At least the Allies are also taking some damage.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 18, 1945
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Night Air attack on Fukuyama , at 107,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 14
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 7
Ki-102c Randy x 8

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 8 damaged

Resources hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Toyama , at 112,57

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102c Randy x 4

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102c Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 4 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagaoka , at 114,58

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y2-S Frances x 15
Ki-102b Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 51

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y2-S Frances: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 37 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Resources hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Fukuyama , at 107,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 17
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 7
Ki-102c Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Resources hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shimonoseki , at 104,57

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 7
J2M5 Jack x 31
N1K2-J George x 21
N1K5-J George x 16
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 29
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 28
Ki-83 x 23
Ki-84a Frank x 5
Ki-84b Frank x 40
Ki-84r Frank x 6
Ki-100-I Tony x 33
Ki-100-II Tony x 20
Ki-102a Randy x 44
Ki-102b Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
F8F-1 Bearcat x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F8F-1 Bearcat: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x F8F-1 Bearcat sweeping at 15000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Shimonoseki , at 104,57

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 3
J2M5 Jack x 26
N1K2-J George x 17
N1K5-J George x 22
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 20
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 17
Ki-83 x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 3
Ki-84b Frank x 26
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Ki-100-I Tony x 20
Ki-100-II Tony x 17
Ki-102a Randy x 31
Ki-102b Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Shimonoseki , at 104,57

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 1
J2M5 Jack x 17
N1K2-J George x 9
N1K5-J George x 18
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 14
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 8
Ki-83 x 12
Ki-84a Frank x 2
Ki-84b Frank x 18
Ki-84r Frank x 2
Ki-100-I Tony x 12
Ki-100-II Tony x 10
Ki-102a Randy x 19
Ki-102b Randy x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 118
P-38L Lightning x 100
P-51D Mustang x 69
P-51H Mustang x 39
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 5 destroyed, 49 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed
P-51D Mustang: 5 destroyed
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Refinery hits 78
Fires 44

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PB4Y-2 Privateer bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shimonoseki , at 104,57

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 7
N1K2-J George x 8
N1K5-J George x 10
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 6
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 2
Ki-83 x 10
Ki-84a Frank x 2
Ki-84b Frank x 5
Ki-100-I Tony x 5
Ki-100-II Tony x 2
Ki-102a Randy x 9
Ki-102b Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 7
P-51D Mustang x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed

Fires 66

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Kweiyang (74,49)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 295099 troops, 4301 guns, 7796 vehicles, Assault Value = 8243

Defending force 91822 troops, 716 guns, 324 vehicles, Assault Value = 2264

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 4829

Japanese adjusted defense: 2745

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
4680 casualties reported
Squads: 83 destroyed, 296 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 140 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 52 disabled
Guns lost 117 (43 destroyed, 74 disabled)
Vehicles lost 69 (37 destroyed, 32 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3743 casualties reported
Squads: 158 destroyed, 576 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 310 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 215 disabled
Guns lost 144 (17 destroyed, 127 disabled)
Vehicles lost 247 (32 destroyed, 215 disabled)

Assaulting units:
255th Indian Tank Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
9th Indian Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
32nd Infantry Division
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
254th Armoured Brigade
710th Tank Battalion
Tenth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
43rd Tank Brigade
5th Australian Division
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
First Army Combat Engineer Regiment
6th Australian Division
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
73rd Tank Brigade
735th SU Regiment
52nd Rifle Division
150th RAC Regiment
XXIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
762nd Tank Battalion
172nd Brigade
111th Tank Division
6th Marine Division
23rd Indian Division
7th Australian Division
44th Tank Battalion
2nd British Division
193rd Tank Battalion
7th Indian Division
25th Mechanized Brigade
766th Tank Battalion
9th Australian Division
1141st Cannon Regiment
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
461st Mortar Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
131st Field Artillery Battalion
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
249th Field Artillery Battalion
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
17th AA Division
XV Indian Corps
152nd Cannon Brigade
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
165th Field Artillery Battalion
XIV US Corps
1st Indian Medium Regiment
98th Coast AA Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Medium Regiment
408th PVO AA Battalion
1917th AA Regiment
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
208th Coast AA Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
X Corps Artillery
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
3rd Front

Defending units:
38th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
3rd Tank Regiment
55th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Division
39th Division
105th Ind.Mixed Brigade
40th Division
27th Division
35th/B Division
68th JNAF AF Unit
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
15th Army
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
60th Construction Battalion
36th Field AA Battalion
86th JAAF AF Bn

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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 121981 troops, 1103 guns, 462 vehicles, Assault Value = 3210

Defending force 27540 troops, 239 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 632

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 1846

Japanese adjusted defense: 1453

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2761 casualties reported
Squads: 27 destroyed, 224 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 24 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 44 (14 destroyed, 30 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (3 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1524 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 162 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 40 (1 destroyed, 39 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Assaulting units:
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
11th (East African) Division
3rd New Chinese Corps
20th Indian Division
49th Chinese Corps
1st New Chinese Corps
6th New Chinese Corps
47th Construction Regiment
1304th Construction Regiment
2nd West African AA Regiment
8th Belfast Heavy AA Regiment
32nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
175th USAAF Base Force
137th USA Base Force
Eighth USAAF 3rd Division

Defending units:
1st Ind.Infantry Brigade
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
6th Division
25th Ind.Mixed Brigade
91st Naval Guard Unit
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
56th Field AA Battalion
14th Tank Regiment
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
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Posts: 14050
Joined: 1/17/2011
From: PDX (and now) London, UK
Status: offline 		December 19-20, 1945

The Allies build pressure everywhere in China and break through at Nanning. Kweiyang is hit next and it's bloody, but at least on both sides.

The Allies keep trying some daylight raids and this time the CAP is up to the job. These are the only points I'll gain other than a few room losses if I'm lucky, so it's good to rack them up where I can. His pilots must be a mess by this time in game, as all of this for a year and a half has been over Japanese bases.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 19, 1945
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Ground combat at Kweiyang (74,49)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 247255 troops, 4201 guns, 6262 vehicles, Assault Value = 8131

Defending force 99363 troops, 788 guns, 359 vehicles, Assault Value = 2236

Japanese ground losses:
246 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
25th Mechanized Brigade
6th Australian Division
7th Indian Division
50th Tank Brigade
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
6th Marine Division
9th Australian Division
193rd Tank Battalion
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
766th Tank Battalion
32nd Infantry Division
111th Tank Division
2nd British Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
5th Australian Division
First Army Combat Engineer Regiment
XXIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
73rd Tank Brigade
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
23rd Indian Division
9th Indian Division
52nd Rifle Division
43rd Tank Brigade
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
762nd Tank Battalion
254th Armoured Brigade
710th Tank Battalion
44th Tank Battalion
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
Tenth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
172nd Brigade
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
150th RAC Regiment
735th SU Regiment
7th Australian Div /11
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
152nd Cannon Brigade
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
8th Medium Regiment
461st Mortar Regiment
1141st Cannon Regiment
XIV US Corps
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
1917th AA Regiment
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
XV Indian Corps
165th Field Artillery Battalion
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
17th AA Division
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
X Corps Artillery
1st Medium Regiment
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
408th PVO AA Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
98th Coast AA Regiment
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
1st Indian Medium Regiment
208th Coast AA Regiment
3rd Front

Defending units:
2nd Division
39th Division
55th Ind.Mixed Brigade
27th Division
37th Division
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
105th Ind.Mixed Brigade
40th Division
35th/B Division
38th Ind.Mixed Brigade
3rd Tank Regiment
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
60th Construction Battalion
68th JNAF AF Unit
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
36th Field AA Battalion
15th Army
86th JAAF AF Bn

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Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 120608 troops, 1102 guns, 462 vehicles, Assault Value = 3066

Defending force 25182 troops, 219 guns, 89 vehicles, Assault Value = 453

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 2204

Japanese adjusted defense: 547

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Nanning !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
7578 casualties reported
Squads: 288 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 312 destroyed, 84 disabled
Engineers: 100 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 91 (84 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 80 (80 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 8

Allied ground losses:
984 casualties reported
Squads: 29 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
49th Chinese Corps
20th Indian Division
11th (East African) Division
3rd New Chinese Corps
1st New Chinese Corps
6th New Chinese Corps
137th USA Base Force
2nd West African AA Regiment
1304th Construction Regiment
32nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
47th Construction Regiment
175th USAAF Base Force
8th Belfast Heavy AA Regiment
Eighth USAAF 3rd Division

Defending units:
6th Division
1st Ind.Infantry Brigade
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
25th Ind.Mixed Brigade
14th Tank Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
56th Field AA Battalion
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion

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Ground combat at Tuyun (74,51)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15051 troops, 208 guns, 374 vehicles, Assault Value = 530

Defending force 6432 troops, 51 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 153

Allied adjusted assault: 299

Japanese adjusted defense: 115

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 6)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
181 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
81st (West African) Division
134th (East Ang) Regiment
88th Medium Regiment

Defending units:
24th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Ind. Engineer Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 20, 1945
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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 Spcl x 11
Lancaster B.1 FE x 29
Liberator B.VI x 3
B-24J Liberator x 25

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 FE: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged

Manpower hits 111
Fires 113557

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Lancaster B.1 Spcl bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 12000 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
Mosquito B.35 x 7

Allied aircraft losses
Mosquito B.35: 1 damaged

Manpower hits 4
Fires 296250

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Mosquito B.35 bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 15
J7W1 Shinden x 30
N1K5-J George x 66
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 4
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 1
Ki-84r Frank x 88

Allied aircraft
F8F-1 Bearcat x 14
FR-1 Fireball x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FR-1 Fireball: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x F8F-1 Bearcat sweeping at 15000 feet
2 x FR-1 Fireball sweeping at 15000 feet *

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 12
J7W1 Shinden x 30
N1K5-J George x 55
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 5
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 1
Ki-84r Frank x 85

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 30
P-51D Mustang x 72

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 9 destroyed, 13 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 2 destroyed by flak
P-51D Mustang: 5 destroyed

Manpower hits 9
Fires 121671

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 11
J7W1 Shinden x 23
N1K5-J George x 50
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 5
Ki-84r Frank x 68

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 14
P-51D Mustang x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak
P-51D Mustang: 8 destroyed

Manpower hits 6
Fires 167364

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 4
J7W1 Shinden x 14
N1K5-J George x 22
Ki-84r Frank x 37

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-303 Hikotai with N1K5-J George (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters to 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
S-308 Hikotai with N1K5-J George (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 23110.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
Kaga-1 with J7W1 Shinden (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
Soryu-1 with N1K5-J George (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
18th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
951 Ku S-2 with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
1001 Ku U-1 with N1K5-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
S-315 Hikotai with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
55th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 4
J7W1 Shinden x 10
N1K5-J George x 20
Ki-84r Frank x 28

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 28
P-51D Mustang x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 2 destroyed, 17 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 2 destroyed by flak
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed

Manpower hits 7
Fires 157960

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
J7W1 Shinden x 7
N1K5-J George x 12
Ki-84r Frank x 10

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
J7W1 Shinden: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Kweiyang (74,49)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 313900 troops, 4661 guns, 8672 vehicles, Assault Value = 8330

Defending force 98429 troops, 781 guns, 358 vehicles, Assault Value = 2201

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 4827

Japanese adjusted defense: 2007

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
6966 casualties reported
Squads: 123 destroyed, 358 disabled
Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 213 disabled
Engineers: 21 destroyed, 65 disabled
Guns lost 116 (34 destroyed, 82 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (3 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
5548 casualties reported
Squads: 51 destroyed, 741 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 243 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 200 disabled
Guns lost 166 (21 destroyed, 145 disabled)
Vehicles lost 334 (17 destroyed, 317 disabled)

Assaulting units:
50th Tank Brigade
2nd British Division
7th Indian Division
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
150th RAC Regiment
25th Mechanized Brigade
6th Marine Division
73rd Tank Brigade
Tenth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
XXIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
44th Tank Battalion
6th Australian Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
5th Australian Division
9th Australian Division
762nd Tank Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
735th SU Regiment
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
52nd Rifle Division
First Army Combat Engineer Regiment
43rd Tank Brigade
193rd Tank Battalion
32nd Infantry Division
254th Armoured Brigade
710th Tank Battalion
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
172nd Brigade
23rd Indian Division
766th Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
9th Indian Division
111th Tank Division
7th Australian Div /11
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
1st Medium Regiment
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
208th Coast AA Regiment
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
168th Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
408th PVO AA Battalion
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
98th Coast AA Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1141st Cannon Regiment
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
XIV US Corps
134th Field Artillery Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
152nd Cannon Brigade
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
XV Indian Corps
165th Field Artillery Battalion
8th Medium Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
IX Corps Artillery
131st Field Artillery Battalion
17th AA Division
249th Field Artillery Battalion
461st Mortar Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
X Corps Artillery
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
1st Indian Medium Regiment
3rd Front

Defending units:
105th Ind.Mixed Brigade
38th Ind.Mixed Brigade
27th Division
40th Division
37th Division
39th Division
55th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Division
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
35th/B Division
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
68th JNAF AF Unit
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
60th Construction Battalion
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
36th Field AA Battalion
3rd Tank Regiment
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
15th Army
86th JAAF AF Bn

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A large night strike on Osaka/Kyoto sees the largest concentration of NF yet to meet the Allied bombers. They do hit hard, but it doesn't matter so much I the end, as fires get going to over 200k by the end.

At Kweiyang the next shock only gets a 1:2, and I think it was only a portion of the stack. I'll try to start bugging out to Chungking on the off chance he only bombards on the 22nd.

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Night Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 40
P1Y2-S Frances x 6
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 53
Ki-102b Randy x 21
Ki-102c Randy x 17

Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 FE x 10
B-24J Liberator x 27
B-29-25 Superfort x 9
B-29B Superfort x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 2 destroyed
Ki-102c Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 FE: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 6 destroyed, 12 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 destroyed by flak
B-29-25 Superfort: 8 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29B Superfort: 4 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 3
Fires 2020

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb, 6 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Ominato , at 119,54

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17G Fortress x 25

Allied aircraft losses
B-17G Fortress: 11 damaged
B-17G Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17G Fortress bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 4
P1Y2-S Frances x 2
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 5
Ki-102b Randy x 5
Ki-102c Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged

Manpower hits 25
Fires 107300

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 4
P1Y2-S Frances x 2
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 5
Ki-102b Randy x 5
Ki-102c Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 3
Fires 210960

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Kweiyang (74,49)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 311119 troops, 4663 guns, 8882 vehicles, Assault Value = 7634

Defending force 90833 troops, 751 guns, 348 vehicles, Assault Value = 1781

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 562

Japanese adjusted defense: 887

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
4130 casualties reported
Squads: 71 destroyed, 107 disabled
Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 54 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 33 disabled
Guns lost 49 (15 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (9 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
725 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 120 disabled
Guns lost 11 (8 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 87 (14 destroyed, 73 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2nd British Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
XXIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
32nd Infantry Division
Tenth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
111th Tank Division
52nd Rifle Division
25th Mechanized Brigade
766th Tank Battalion
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
73rd Tank Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
Eighth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
150th RAC Regiment
762nd Tank Battalion
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
254th Armoured Brigade
7th Indian Division
First Army Combat Engineer Regiment
9th Australian Division
172nd Brigade
193rd Tank Battalion
6th Marine Division
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
735th SU Regiment
710th Tank Battalion
43rd Tank Brigade
5th Australian Division
44th Tank Battalion
9th Indian Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
23rd Indian Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
6th Australian Division
7th Australian Div /11
1141st Cannon Regiment
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
1st Medium Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
XIV US Corps
461st Mortar Regiment
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
408th PVO AA Battalion
165th Field Artillery Battalion
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
152nd Cannon Brigade
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
98th Coast AA Regiment
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
1917th AA Regiment
X Corps Artillery
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
XV Indian Corps
17th AA Division
168th Field Artillery Regiment
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
IX Corps Artillery
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
208th Coast AA Regiment
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
1st Indian Medium Regiment
3rd Front

Defending units:
39th Division
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
55th Ind.Mixed Brigade
37th Division
40th Division
27th Division
2nd Division
35th/B Division
105th Ind.Mixed Brigade
60th Construction Battalion
38th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
36th Field AA Battalion
15th Army
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
3rd Tank Regiment
68th JNAF AF Unit
86th JAAF AF Bn
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Over two hundred 4E shot down in the last two days. Probably around 230 if the reports are close to correct.




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