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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/30/2016 12:08:40 AM   
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Tracker not working is a function of the upgrade.

You either take the fresh start, or I think there is a file that needs moving.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/30/2016 12:10:56 AM   
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Isn't 440 point of Armaments a little lowish?

252 Armor seems a little high.



Good catch, he should have 620 or so in armament.


The last time I made it this far I made the mistake of turning them off in 44 with only around 100k in the pool, IIRC. But, the problem there was supply to fill out units once I did get into 45. I still had pools enough. So I think rather than expending more supply to increase armaments I'll keep it running and building up.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/30/2016 12:12:57 AM   
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Isn't 440 point of Armaments a little lowish?

252 Armor seems a little high.



Good catch, he should have 620 or so in armament.


The last time I made it this far I made the mistake of turning them off in 44 with only around 100k in the pool, IIRC. But, the problem there was supply to fill out units once I did get into 45. I still had pools enough. So I think rather than expending more supply to increase armaments I'll keep it running and building up.


Try not to lose 20 divisions.

Looking at my charts, and guessing at yours...you can be ok I think -- at least till the Russians.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/30/2016 12:38:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Isn't 440 point of Armaments a little lowish?

252 Armor seems a little high.



Good catch, he should have 620 or so in armament.


The last time I made it this far I made the mistake of turning them off in 44 with only around 100k in the pool, IIRC. But, the problem there was supply to fill out units once I did get into 45. I still had pools enough. So I think rather than expending more supply to increase armaments I'll keep it running and building up.

Ah with "should" I meant thats the number you start with.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/30/2016 12:41:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: obvert


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Isn't 440 point of Armaments a little lowish?

252 Armor seems a little high.



Good catch, he should have 620 or so in armament.


The last time I made it this far I made the mistake of turning them off in 44 with only around 100k in the pool, IIRC. But, the problem there was supply to fill out units once I did get into 45. I still had pools enough. So I think rather than expending more supply to increase armaments I'll keep it running and building up.


Try not to lose 20 divisions.

Looking at my charts, and guessing at yours...you can be ok I think -- at least till the Russians.


I had hubris, didn't know about reserve mode movement and still only missed saving all of those by ONE turn!! It was silly, yes.

Here is some stuff from my Jocke game. Just reread a nice portion dealing with late game results of excessive supply expenditure. So good to look at now.

This shows that I had the points even into April 45, but just didn't have the supply. My Armaments were only at 465 that game and I had turned them off as I mentioned.





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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/30/2016 12:42:44 AM   
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Here is the rest of the necessary info for that post.





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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/30/2016 12:51:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin


quote:

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ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin


quote:

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Isn't 440 point of Armaments a little lowish?

252 Armor seems a little high.



Good catch, he should have 620 or so in armament.


The last time I made it this far I made the mistake of turning them off in 44 with only around 100k in the pool, IIRC. But, the problem there was supply to fill out units once I did get into 45. I still had pools enough. So I think rather than expending more supply to increase armaments I'll keep it running and building up.

Ah with "should" I meant thats the number you start with.


I see!

Well, mine are only able to produce 420 right now. Don't think I converted many (if any) to vehicle. Certainly not 200.





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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/30/2016 4:18:00 AM   
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You did something with the armament factories.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/30/2016 4:48:02 AM   
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Since Armament factories are -180 from start and Vehicle factories are +180 from start, I guess you did change some.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/30/2016 8:11:08 AM   
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Since Armament factories are -180 from start and Vehicle factories are +180 from start, I guess you did change some.


That sounds pretty logical!

Are vehicles only 72 at start? Wow. It's been around 3 years since I thought about all of that. So weird in this game to try to remember what you did in the start of a long PBEM.

Anyway, it seems like they're making enough. In the next year I could make 160,600 if I leave them on. That seems like a pretty good (possibly excessive) cushion.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/30/2016 2:33:49 PM   
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Your VEH production is ok, maybe a bit higher than many would choose, but still within norms.

The issue is that your ARM production may NOT be enough. You'll need to monitor that closely. Make small increases sooner rather than waiting too long and have to make a big purchase is the guidance I can give.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 5/1/2016 4:00:35 AM   
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I concur. Bump up your ARM a bit. Not a lot, but a bit. Want to show us what the LCU Production->Armaments graph in Tracker looks like?

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 5/1/2016 8:27:30 AM   
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Your VEH production is ok, maybe a bit higher than many would choose, but still within norms.

The issue is that your ARM production may NOT be enough. You'll need to monitor that closely. Make small increases sooner rather than waiting too long and have to make a big purchase is the guidance I can give.


Judging by tracker I shouldn't really have to increase. We're taking about late 45 needs here and I'm wary of building more, as if I actually make it that far I'll also likely maintain an ability to produce armaments for longer as well, rather than having to produce them all early.

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I concur. Bump up your ARM a bit. Not a lot, but a bit. Want to show us what the LCU Production->Armaments graph in Tracker looks like?


Here is the tracker page. Am I wrong in how I read this, that I've got a pool to surpass reinforcements already?

I know many late divisions show up partially filled out, but since there is already a cushion over reinforcements and I've got well over a year to keep producing at full capacity, it seems like this would be covered. Can't say from experience because I didn't have enough last time of either ARM points or supply to see what it would take.





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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 5/1/2016 1:29:05 PM   
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Glad to see I'm not the only one that's committed to the Peggy T. I'm convinced the initial investment is well worth it, seeing as the IJA bombers tend to become impractical to use in the face of Allied flak. Giving the IJA an effective way to sink big ships is well worth the time sink in training NavT pilots, and with some careful planning you don't even need to bother with NavB training for Peggy T pilots.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 5/1/2016 2:10:42 PM   
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3 November, 1943


SUBS: Most subs heading back to bases to replenish and for any repairs needed. I'll send a few out for recon in Cent Pac, in the IO and along the OZ coasts.

BURMA: The Allies get moving by sweeping Mandalay and bombing the piece of a para unit there. It's doomed, and that's okay, I'll just wait for him to conquer it again and then bombs away on the fields. He has a lot of troops nearby, so that won't last forever, but could stall a bit longer.

CENT PAC: Netties bombed at Marcus and wreacked havoc on the US forces there. The combo of overstacking, disablements and disruption led to hugs losses; 82 squads destroyed and 116 newly disabled. I'll keep this rolling!

SW PAC: Some xAK unloading at Rekata Bay are hit by our Kates flying at 5k with bombs. Accuracy was not what I'd hoped, but I kept them high not knowing what was here. Two hit and fuel cargo burning could still leave two xAK in trouble. I'll send in some search to see where they go. If they stay put another surprise will arrive in the night.

CHINA: I've decided to go for Paoshan. It is isolated from other Allied areas and cut off from supply for the time being by a small para fragment left from it's drop on Bhamo. It has 12k troops, and I'm sending a tank division first to check things out, with three more IDs walking forward down the slow road. this place is great defensive territory, but of course prone to heavy air strikes. I like the small LI there for local supply production though, and it'll just give him another thing to think about.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR November 3, 42
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Morning Air attack on 25th Infantry Division, at 123,85 (Marcus Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 26
G4M1 Betty x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
913 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 43 destroyed, 74 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 15 (7 destroyed, 8 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
26 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
18 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 146th USA Base Force /1 ...
Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ...

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Morning Air attack on 1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division, at 123,85 (Marcus Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
399 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 18 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 143rd USA Base Force ...
Also attacking 1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division ...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rekata Bay at 113,134

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 18
B5N2 Kate x 14

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK Empire Condor, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Empire Grenfell, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AM Bombay

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 16 (7 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF-441 with F4U-1 Corsair (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 16000.
Raid is overhead

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Empire Condor
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Chinese units have made it to Ledo and look to be moving into India to refit and fill out. This is the option I gave Joe picking up the game and I think it's fine. They still cannot be used in Burma for combat, and must move back to China to fight.



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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 5/1/2016 2:15:19 PM   
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Glad to see I'm not the only one that's committed to the Peggy T. I'm convinced the initial investment is well worth it, seeing as the IJA bombers tend to become impractical to use in the face of Allied flak. Giving the IJA an effective way to sink big ships is well worth the time sink in training NavT pilots, and with some careful planning you don't even need to bother with NavB training for Peggy T pilots.


This time around I think I'll be better prepared, and as I think Lowpe suggested, I can train some search first before they come online to have a good selection of half trained pilots. I liked the plane in my previous late game situation, but it didn't fly often. I think this could be down to lower experienced pilots and maybe messy HQ settings. I may play with this in tests to see if things work there. It'll be good to see how yours goes too!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 5/1/2016 3:10:59 PM   
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Glad to see I'm not the only one that's committed to the Peggy T. I'm convinced the initial investment is well worth it, seeing as the IJA bombers tend to become impractical to use in the face of Allied flak. Giving the IJA an effective way to sink big ships is well worth the time sink in training NavT pilots, and with some careful planning you don't even need to bother with NavB training for Peggy T pilots.


This time around I think I'll be better prepared, and as I think Lowpe suggested, I can train some search first before they come online to have a good selection of half trained pilots. I liked the plane in my previous late game situation, but it didn't fly often. I think this could be down to lower experienced pilots and maybe messy HQ settings. I may play with this in tests to see if things work there. It'll be good to see how yours goes too!


I've been impressed so far, given the less than ideal circumstances of half-baked pilots.

It's great in that it takes a great deal of pressure off the IJN. For that alone I think it's a must-have plane for the IJA. The IJN 2E force is always pressed into several roles, and having an abundance of an IJA airframe that can hit ground or naval targets is a massive boon.

I've some crazy ideas floating around as to the future, but that's for the future.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 5/1/2016 3:53:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Your VEH production is ok, maybe a bit higher than many would choose, but still within norms.

The issue is that your ARM production may NOT be enough. You'll need to monitor that closely. Make small increases sooner rather than waiting too long and have to make a big purchase is the guidance I can give.


Judging by tracker I shouldn't really have to increase. We're taking about late 45 needs here and I'm wary of building more, as if I actually make it that far I'll also likely maintain an ability to produce armaments for longer as well, rather than having to produce them all early.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

I concur. Bump up your ARM a bit. Not a lot, but a bit. Want to show us what the LCU Production->Armaments graph in Tracker looks like?


Here is the tracker page. Am I wrong in how I read this, that I've got a pool to surpass reinforcements already?

I know many late divisions show up partially filled out, but since there is already a cushion over reinforcements and I've got well over a year to keep producing at full capacity, it seems like this would be covered. Can't say from experience because I didn't have enough last time of either ARM points or supply to see what it would take.






Ok, what exactly does No.Destroyed mean? 6 AFVs??? You need 100 vehicle points to replace the 6 destroyed which makes sense.

Armaments 1494 able to be rebuilt?

Dest pool dev: destroyed pool that needs and is eligible for rebuilding? Perhaps you have destroyed units not purchased back and that is the difference between destroyed and dest pool?


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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 5/1/2016 4:52:48 PM   
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Probably. I just did buy back a small armored car unit from the Marcus invasion.

The columns in the lower part I'm looking at are the Delay A & V points and the Strength %. Some divisions come complete, others need to be filled out, especially the late ones in mid-45. So from the points that I know I'll need here I'd ike to calculate what I would need to fill out the divisions that come half filled and still have a pool for destroyed squads de to combat.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 5/1/2016 5:35:32 PM   
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In one of my games, you figure out which one, I don't even want to look at that tracker page.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 5/2/2016 6:41:21 PM   
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4-5 November, 1943


SUBS: Sent Ise and Fuso back for a refit from Babeldaob and got a scare when DD Asanagi ran over SS Wahoo. No damage to either side though.

BURMA: Trying to get my 43 upgrades for divisions down here. Some are working, others seem reluctant. The Southern Army is here, and Rabaul and several other bases have good supply. Read the manual and it just says units need to be near bases with double their supply requirements. Some have upgraded outside bases, but not all, so I'm curious if there is anything else I'm neglecting to do? Or does it just happen 1-2 units at a time in the region?

CENT PAC: Marcus continues to get pumeled. I'll think about a DA here soon. My units haven't recovered, but they are in great morale and have no pressures on them, unlike the overstacked and harassed Allies.


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR November 4, 42
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Morning Air attack on 25th Infantry Division, at 123,85 (Marcus Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
249 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 23 (16 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
18 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion ...
Also attacking 25th Infantry Division ...

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Ground combat at Marcus Island (123,85)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3740 troops, 41 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 101

Defending force 10231 troops, 124 guns, 199 vehicles, Assault Value = 125

Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 7th SNLF
62nd Naval Guard Unit
Kwajalein Base Force
2nd South Seas Gsn
78th Naval Guard Unit
34th Ind. Engr Rgt /1

Defending units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
1st USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
143rd USA Base Force /1
25th Infantry Division
146th USA Base Force /1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR November 5, 42
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Morning Air attack on 1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division, at 123,85 (Marcus Island)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 20
G4M1 Betty x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
451 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 5 (4 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (7 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
11 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Marcus Island (123,85)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3783 troops, 43 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 103

Defending force 9533 troops, 118 guns, 183 vehicles, Assault Value = 100

Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
2nd South Seas Gsn
Sasebo 7th SNLF
62nd Naval Guard Unit
Kwajalein Base Force
34th Ind. Engr Rgt /1

Defending units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
25th Infantry Division
143rd USA Base Force /1
146th USA Base Force /1
1st USMC Amphb Tank Bn /1

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 5/7/2016 12:35:57 AM   
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6-7 November, 1943


CENT PAC: Marcus Island is cleared of Allied troops! All remaining units are destroyed by our two half-strength guard units with a haul of 1522 squads in total. That's a good bite out of the Allied cause for no gain of territory!

Of course he'll buy those back, or may have smaller elements that were pulled out earlier. Regardless, the VPs won't go away. Looks like 409 total on the day!

There are heavy signals at PH, (an 8/8 DL but no sensitive info shown), and I'm sure Joseph is taking time to regroup after that debacle and plan the next ops. By the time he starts going he should have a significant lead in CVs, so I'll have to consider a few options for how to defend without the luxury of being able to dance with the Death Star head to head.

SUBS: The O21 picked off one of my little subchasers near Soerabaja. The first sign of Allied subs hunting in a while.

BURMA: Nothing going on but troops still not all upgraded. Supply is over 20k in several bases and the Southern Army HQ is here. Any thoughts about what else to do to get these upgraded to 43 squads?

SW PAC: I noticed some resupply efforts around Portland Roads and Horn Island. No fighters were listed in either base so I set Judys from Merauke to strike. They wiped the area clean with AM and PM sorties. Always a plus. Several small xAK down. A four plane packet ended up dropping from 10k. Never seen that form DB, and these are well trained with crews in the mid-50s EXP and 70 skill.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR November 7, 42
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Horn Island at 91,128

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 23
D4Y1 Judy x 18

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Ic: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAK Hoihow, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Hunan, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk

AM Wagga
xAK Ho Kiang, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.30 Sqn RAAF with Beaufighter Ic (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Ho Kiang
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Hunan

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Portland Roads at 91,132

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 22
D4Y1 Judy x 18

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAKL Wear, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
xAKL Ngakuta, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
YMS BYMS-2015, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk


Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
10 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.83 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk III (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Wear
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Ngakuta

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Ground combat at Marcus Island (123,85)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3947 troops, 43 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 103

Defending force 8821 troops, 108 guns, 171 vehicles, Assault Value = 88

Japanese adjusted assault: 40

Allied adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
291 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
9779 casualties reported
Squads: 200 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 946 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 124 (124 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 241 (241 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 4


Assaulting units:
62nd Naval Guard Unit
Sasebo 7th SNLF
2nd South Seas Gsn /2
Kwajalein Base Force
34th Ind. Engr Rgt /1

Defending units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
143rd USA Base Force /1
25th Infantry Division
1st USMC Amphb Tank Bn /1

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Ground combat at Kirakira (116,140)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 138 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Defending force 397 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 14

Allied adjusted assault: 2

Japanese adjusted defense: 13

Allied assault odds: 1 to 6 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st Australian Para Bn /1
6th RAAF Base Force /3

Defending units:
II/84th Nav Gd /1
1st JNAF Coy /1

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If I had to guess the last four planes dropping from 10k did so because the ships were sunk or obscured by smoke and they jettisoned their bombs.

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If I had to guess the last four planes dropping from 10k did so because the ships were sunk or obscured by smoke and they jettisoned their bombs.


Could be. Good detail if thats the case.

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8-10 November, 1943


BURMA: Some boring days as Joseph gets going. I'm just maneuvering in the background with a few pinpricks to keep him thinking. In this area another division finally upgrades to 43 squads. Only about four to go. Think I need a big supply dump.

CENT PAC: Marcus units are recovering and the base still has 5 forts. I'm going to leave it there rather than building to 6 again. I thikn he'll avoid the place on principle.

SW PAC: Hit Rekata Bay airfield where the Allies have a construction unit and one other unit, but a small one. I might paradrop here just to make sure nothing happens easily, and as it doesn't look like much combat strength. His only major base in the Solomons is Lunga.

On the New Guinea side I hit Lae to close the field a bit and see what is trying to walk to Finchafen. Looks like an Aussie Brigade. I'll have about 200AV here with 4 forts in a few days, so no worries just yet. Major troop reinforcements arrive in Tokyo in a few days as well.

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SIG INT REPORT FOR Nov 09, 43

Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Pearl Harbor (180,107).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Pearl Harbor (180,107).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Pearl Harbor (180,107).

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Something big happening here at PH, but the 8/8 DL doesn't give me anything good from the rollover.





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Here is some of the R & D as it is now. I've just had the A6M5c move up to 1/44and think it's time to switch to the A6M8. With 5 x 30 this should come forward quickly. I'll then have to think of whether I should commit them to another Gen 3 plane like the Ki-94 or the J7M. I have one J7M x 30 factory repairing. No Ki-94 as yet. I also have 3 x 30 Ki-83 repairing, which is a fantastic plane.

I'd like to be prudent, and I don't need so many A6M8 that I should send all of these to production with the A7M coming in early 45 most likely.

I also just switched up to the J2M5 at x 30, so that'll be arriving in late 44 I'd say. The N1K5 has one x 3 factory researching and will have two more in about 10 days when the N1K2 model is ready.





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CHINA: The tank division reached Paoshan and made a deliberate attack here, but didn't have it's way and didn't lower forts. Somewhat surprising considering it's only a few construction units, base forces and HQ here, totaling 91 AV. There are two divisions, arty and HQ moving in so I'll wait a few turns and attack with all of them. I don't want to shock and ruin the LI and resources needlessly.

This of course opens the door for some bombing of my troops. Not looking forward to that, but maybe in this terrain it'll be slightly less strong. He has a lot of 4E here and P-47s.

CENT PAC: Another big SIGINT hit at PH. No sign of anything worth mentioning in rollover though.

SW PAC: At Kirakira the small IJ units are trying to beat down the tiny Aussie para fragment. It's silly. Only one or two disablements from a shock attack. It must be taking a while for them to find each other there are so few on this island.

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Ground combat at Paoshan (65,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12170 troops, 128 guns, 626 vehicles, Assault Value = 371

Defending force 8722 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 91

Japanese adjusted assault: 377

Allied adjusted defense: 430

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
213 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled


Assaulting units:
3rd Tank Division

Defending units:
13th Construction Regiment
7th Construction Regiment
7th Chinese Base Force
10th Group Army
20th Chinese Base Force
2nd Construction Regiment
6th Construction Regiment
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India - You are saying that the Chinese can be rebuilt here, but no combat except in China itself. Right? Can he keep those small Corps in India as garrison troops freeing up all his Indian troops?

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India - You are saying that the Chinese can be rebuilt here, but no combat except in China itself. Right? Can he keep those small Corps in India as garrison troops freeing up all his Indian troops?


Great question! Yes, no combat for them outside China, and the same for my restricted IJA China Command troops.

We didn't talk about this, but since he is losing a few months of prep reorganizing everything in the middle of the game maybe it's fine.

Unless you think this is something we should discuss? Not sure what impact the small units would have other than just being able to hit more locations. He'd still have to buy them out though right? So if he buys those he may not be able to buy the bigger units?

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BURMA: We've finally got a little bit of action happening! Sqz sends in the P-47s and Corsairs over Tsuyung, and I know it's going to be a bad day!

Our Tojo IIa group is LR CAPing over the tank division at Paoshan and only gets 4 planes into the mix, so that when a few dozen 4Es follow there's no protection. There is no AA up here either, so the fields take a beating. We lose around 10 Tojos and the fields are 65% damaged. Luckily the group can rail to Kunming, which will be beefed up and ready tomorrow, just in case. I'll be sending in Georges and Jacks, plus some low level Oscars for bait.

Our raid on Paoshan attracted some LR CAPing Corsairs, and the escorts got them through safely to hit the Chinese troops for about 2 disabled squads.

SW PAC: New troops are now arriving and about half will head down here. I'll create a few strong points if possible and then try to garrison everything to make sure it has to be prepped for and planned a bit.

ECON: Ship fuel use is down to around 10k/day. What is a good working number for this in late 43-44? No idea what I should be looking for here. I just know 20k is too much!

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Morning Air attack on Tsuyung , at 68,46

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 19
F4U-1 Corsair x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
54th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 7000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Tsuyung , at 68,46

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 15
B-17F Fortress x 11
B-24D Liberator x 18
P-40N5 Warhawk x 20
F4U-1 Corsair x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 40
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 97

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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I've been doing some recon around the map to see if things are-a-changin. Here in NW OZ Tennant Creek is attracting some new settlers, although Daly Waters is still empty. I'll think I'll discourage air dropping of anything by wiping out the fields soon. I have a special surprise in the works first though and don't want to spoil that by drawing attention here.






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