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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/6/2017 6:36:19 PM

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What do your runways look like?

Dollars to donuts he is headed for the clear terrain island, and probably some others around it.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/7/2017 8:07:02 AM

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What do your runways look like?

Dollars to donuts he is headed for the clear terrain island, and probably some others around it.

I've got two level 9 bases at Sapporo and Ominato. I've got some level 4-5 around Hokkaido, and Hakodate is going toward 7. Etorofu and Urruppa are 3-4. Para and Onneketon are level 3.

I'll not be hitting the DS anytime soon from LBA unless there is a serious reduction in CAP. There are other ways to skin a cat.

He may be interested in the clear hex base, which is fine since it's so close to the many big bases that it would be harder to support. Whatever happens up here, there is no way with the discrepancy in CVs between the sides to stop landings. I simply have to take a tithe for every step, make it painful, and to start doing that I need to get ships in place, subs under the DS, and prepare some nice CAP traps and other distractions. I need to chip away first, then see if I get any toys based on reinforcements or kamis.

That's the goal for today.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/7/2017 8:18:37 AM

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quote:

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What do your runways look like?

Dollars to donuts he is headed for the clear terrain island, and probably some others around it.

I've got two level 9 bases at Sapporo and Ominato. I've got some level 4-5 around Hokkaido, and Hakodate is going toward 7. Etorofu and Urruppa are 3-4. Para and Onneketon are level 3.

I'll not be hitting the DS anytime soon from LBA unless there is a serious reduction in CAP. There are other ways to skin a cat.

He may be interested in the clear hex base, which is fine since it's so close to the many big bases that it would be harder to support. Whatever happens up here, there is no way with the discrepancy in CVs between the sides to stop landings. I simply have to take a tithe for every step, make it painful, and to start doing that I need to get ships in place, subs under the DS, and prepare some nice CAP traps and other distractions. I need to chip away first, then see if I get any toys based on reinforcements or kamis.

That's the goal for today.

Yep, you are never really going to stop an Allied invasion in mid 44. They can suffer massive losses and still at least claim a bridgehead. By this stage of the war any asset lost by the Allies (including CVs which are near impossible to sink now anyway) can be readily replaced whereas the IJN is a rapidly diminishing resource in terms of quality and quantity.

Completely agree with your strategy- really it is the only viable course of action.

The cruel slog that we know all too well (especially Lowpe and I) is about to begin but it is still fun in a twisted way.

- FYI-having a lot of success in my recent game with the recon version of the Judy as a kamikaze. The hit rate is so high I actually think there could be a bug involved but still great to see Allied ships burn

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/7/2017 6:28:39 PM

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What do your runways look like?

Dollars to donuts he is headed for the clear terrain island, and probably some others around it.

I've got two level 9 bases at Sapporo and Ominato. I've got some level 4-5 around Hokkaido, and Hakodate is going toward 7. Etorofu and Urruppa are 3-4. Para and Onneketon are level 3.

I'll not be hitting the DS anytime soon from LBA unless there is a serious reduction in CAP. There are other ways to skin a cat.

He may be interested in the clear hex base, which is fine since it's so close to the many big bases that it would be harder to support. Whatever happens up here, there is no way with the discrepancy in CVs between the sides to stop landings. I simply have to take a tithe for every step, make it painful, and to start doing that I need to get ships in place, subs under the DS, and prepare some nice CAP traps and other distractions. I need to chip away first, then see if I get any toys based on reinforcements or kamis.

That's the goal for today.

Yep, you are never really going to stop an Allied invasion in mid 44. They can suffer massive losses and still at least claim a bridgehead. By this stage of the war any asset lost by the Allies (including CVs which are near impossible to sink now anyway) can be readily replaced whereas the IJN is a rapidly diminishing resource in terms of quality and quantity.

Completely agree with your strategy- really it is the only viable course of action.

The cruel slog that we know all too well (especially Lowpe and I) is about to begin but it is still fun in a twisted way.

- FYI-having a lot of success in my recent game with the recon version of the Judy as a kamikaze. The hit rate is so high I actually think there could be a bug involved but still great to see Allied ships burn

Interesting. The Judy-C?

I never even considered using recons as kami, and didn't know it was even possible. Have you also tried the Dinah-III? Or the NF Dinah-Kai? They're so fast that I could imagine they'd be good too, if a plane that doesn't carry a bomb can be effective!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/7/2017 9:37:25 PM

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June 1, 1944

I'm glad I didn't shock. The 14th tank didn't stop the Allied units from the NW moving in, and the Allies end up with 4.6k AV in hex.

The troops one hex away railing in stopped and began to unpack. Odd, since the unit railing in from Rangoon made it just fine. Hmmm.

Either way, I'll see how the next few turns go. The Allied reinforcements are the below:

9th Australian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
5th Indian Division
72nd British Brigade

The Allies bombarded and lost a chunk of arty. So I've turned bombardments on and I'll wait for all units to get into the hex before deciding how to proceed.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 1, 1944
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Ground combat at Prome (55,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5400 troops, 297 guns, 178 vehicles, Assault Value = 4613

Defending force 110066 troops, 1172 guns, 1328 vehicles, Assault Value = 3130

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 54 (25 destroyed, 29 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Assaulting units:
23rd Indian Division
9th Australian Division
40th Infantry Division
27th Infantry Division
1st New Chinese Corps
29th British Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
81st (West African) Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
26th Indian/B Division
14th Army Engineer Battalion
39th Indian Division
Americal Infantry Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
14th Indian Division
193rd Tank Battalion
41st Infantry Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
5th Indian Division
754th Tank Battalion
19th Indian Division
72nd British Brigade
9th Indian Division
26th Indian/A Division
26th Indian/C Division
197th Coast AA Regiment
208th Coast AA Regiment
198th Field Artillery Battalion
X' Force
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st West African AA Regiment
XXXIII Corps RIASC Base Force
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment
I/14th Army RIASC Base Force
205th Coast AA Regiment
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
16th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
96th Coast AA Regiment
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
Southeast Asia
77th Coast AA Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
175th USAAF Base Force
23rd AA Bde
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
226th Field Artillery Battalion
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
70th Coast AA Regiment
1st RM Heavy AA Regiment
8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment
78th Coast AA Regiment
IV Indian Corps
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
858th Engineer Aviation Battalion

Defending units:
18th Tank Regiment
55th Division
11th Tank Regiment
24th Ind.Mixed Brigade
3rd RTA Division
5th Division
2nd Division
1st Tank Division
14th Tank Regiment
31st Division
4th RTA Division
6th RTA Division
53rd Field AA Battalion
7th RF Gun Battalion
11th Air Defense AA Battalion
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
23rd AA Regiment
18th Army
52nd Field AA Battalion
60th Field AA Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
11th Air Defense AA Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
50th Field AA Battalion
15th Const Co
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
44th Ind.AA Gun Co
3rd Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd Air Defense AA Regiment
43rd Const Co
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
51st Field AA Battalion
36th JNAF AF Unit

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/7/2017 9:53:52 PM

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June 1, 1944

In the North, the Allies close in and tighten up the fleets. It looks like the middle Kuriles will be the target, or they'll move past and head for Shikuka.

I set some long range and high 2E TB to just past Uruppa. This shouldn't be in range, but if anything small comes hunting, they could get em. Also, I have a few small CAP traps going, but they're probably just Fletcher bait.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/7/2017 10:23:17 PM

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Having been through this with Jocke I know all too well the tremendous effort it takes to keep going through the turns when the Allies are breaking down the doors in every corner. Its a grind but there are good days!
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Yes your game with Jocke was an epic one and highly enjoyable. Also provided a multitude of lessons learnt for us all especially around supply consumption.

I started off by using the Judy-C due to its great range. Only takes two hits from them to sink a Fletcher despite not having any payload. It will be interesting to hear others experience.

good luck, good hunting

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/7/2017 11:53:49 PM

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I�ve almost forgot what a land based Death Star looked like. That is a huge stack at Prome.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/8/2017 1:42:16 AM

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Do you have any notion how much of that 4.6K AV is fresh?

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/8/2017 6:20:01 AM

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Do you have any notion how much of that 4.6K AV is fresh?

The units I listed above. Here they are again.

The Allied reinforcements that were not in the last combat are the below:

9th Australian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
5th Indian Division
72nd British Brigade

So about 1800-1900 of the AV total.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/8/2017 2:53:52 PM

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Ah, I missed that. So a substantial portion, then.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/9/2017 12:39:45 PM

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Good call at Prome.

My thoughts now would be to think about pulling back into the jungle, once Prome cannot be defended by air anymore. Otherwise it is a great attrition base. And of course I would always be worried about a landing...but with the Kuriles in play that is certainly not likely.

I had to go back a page to find a map of Burma, and you didn't press W (for shame), but it also seems like there is at least one Chinese unit heading deeper east into China. I would be cautious about Chinese infiltrating the mountains aiming SE to the coast and Vietnam.

Looks like the invasion has veered to the north and will target the Kuriles, the safer play, rather than Hokkaido. Probably a mistake on CR's part, as it guarantees a longer tougher fight -- it certainly will define the game.

Kuriles, then in sixty days another big invasion invasion...it seems to me you are in pretty decent position for having lost carriers on day 2. Most likely you will keep oil/fuel shipments to the HI for the the bulk of the game.

Nicely played.

Given the date, you are in great shape here.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/9/2017 6:16:43 PM

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Good call at Prome.

My thoughts now would be to think about pulling back into the jungle, once Prome cannot be defended by air anymore. Otherwise it is a great attrition base. And of course I would always be worried about a landing...but with the Kuriles in play that is certainly not likely.

I had to go back a page to find a map of Burma, and you didn't press W (for shame), but it also seems like there is at least one Chinese unit heading deeper east into China. I would be cautious about Chinese infiltrating the mountains aiming SE to the coast and Vietnam.

Looks like the invasion has veered to the north and will target the Kuriles, the safer play, rather than Hokkaido. Probably a mistake on CR's part, as it guarantees a longer tougher fight -- it certainly will define the game.

Kuriles, then in sixty days another big invasion invasion...it seems to me you are in pretty decent position for having lost carriers on day 2. Most likely you will keep oil/fuel shipments to the HI for the the bulk of the game.

Nicely played.

Given the date, you are in great shape here.

I'll update more soon.

There is a move into China. It's mainly through the direct mountains, and not toward Into-China. There is one unit walking down the road toward Chang Mai, but I have 3-4 weeks to deal with that.

I've got tabs on all the units coming to China and I've moved an ID onto every river crossing hex I could get to in time that is also on a road. The road to Paoshan is a big IJA parking lot, with an ID/hex. The Chinese don't like forts, x3 defensive terrain or tanks. a few tank regiments are on the way.

It's funny that I want him to strike Prome from the air! I would never have thought that, but Allied losses to flak have been around 20% at Prome, and for little effect. Lots of radar and 12cm guns.

I do have to watch out, and the manoeuvre battle is just beginning. I'll hold until my Taung Gui units arrive back near Toungou, then make a call on how long to stay put. Prome has served it's purpose, as has Burma in general. It's tied up a massive Allied army away from oil or infrastructure until mid-44, so I can now make some other plans.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/10/2017 7:50:05 AM

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Given the date, you are in great shape here.

+1

Yeah, June 44 and the allies are just starting something, but not going for the jugular (Hokkaido) ...
you should be able to tie up key allied assets in the Kuriles for the next 18 months ...
15 months prep time for the SOV ...

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/10/2017 4:14:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Given the date, you are in great shape here.

+1

Yeah, June 44 and the allies are just starting something, but not going for the jugular (Hokkaido) ...
you should be able to tie up key allied assets in the Kuriles for the next 18 months ...
15 months prep time for the SOV ...

Or...

Is the Kuriles a move to tie up key Japanese assets for the next 18 months?

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/10/2017 4:39:13 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

quote:

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Given the date, you are in great shape here.

+1

Yeah, June 44 and the allies are just starting something, but not going for the jugular (Hokkaido) ...
you should be able to tie up key allied assets in the Kuriles for the next 18 months ...
15 months prep time for the SOV ...

Or...

Is the Kuriles a move to tie up key Japanese assets for the next 18 months?

If my assets are tied up for 18 months that's 6 months longer than I've played the game yet!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/12/2017 3:58:32 PM

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June 2, 1944

So no landings yet on the 2nd. The Allies move slowly North. A small TF unloading supply is defended well at Etorofu, downing about 25+ Hellcats and some Avengers.

In Burma some small air skirmishes. The defenders go high today, diving on Corsairs to gain a small advantage on the day, which is nice, and should at least make him reconsider settings.

Bombardments at Prome are about equal, which means no way I'm doing anything there for a while.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 2, 1944
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Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 85

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 17
F4U-1A Corsair x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Corsair II sweeping at 30000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Prome , at 55,50

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 77

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Uruppu-jima at 130,52

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 7
A6M5b Zero x 19
J2M3 Jack x 16
N1K2-J George x 32
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 28

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Avenger II: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 17 destroyed

Japanese Ships
xAK Tuyama Maru
LST T-116, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Avenger II launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo

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Ground combat at Prome (55,50)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 82256 troops, 797 guns, 825 vehicles, Assault Value = 3620

Defending force 263069 troops, 4178 guns, 4367 vehicles, Assault Value = 4747

Japanese ground losses:
131 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
144 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (6 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st Tank Division
18th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
3rd RTA Division
14th Tank Regiment
14th Division
5th Division
2nd Division
4th RTA Division
55th Division
31st Division
24th Ind.Mixed Brigade
6th RTA Division
11th Air Defense AA Regiment
52nd Field AA Battalion
43rd Const Co
18th Army
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
7th RF Gun Battalion
23rd AA Regiment
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
5th Mortar Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
60th Field AA Battalion
50th Field AA Battalion
11th Air Defense AA Battalion
53rd Field AA Battalion
2nd Air Defense AA Regiment
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
15th Const Co
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
44th Ind.AA Gun Co
51st Field AA Battalion
3rd Ind.AA Gun Co
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
36th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
3rd Cavalry Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
29th British Brigade
40th Infantry Division
72nd British Brigade
14th Army Engineer Battalion
39th Indian Division
26th Indian/B Division
14th Indian Division
26th Indian/A Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
41st Infantry Division
19th Indian Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
23rd Indian Division
193rd Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
5th Indian Division
9th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
27th Infantry Division
9th Australian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
754th Tank Battalion
81st (West African) Division
26th Indian/C Division
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
1st West African AA Regiment
205th Coast AA Regiment
1st RM Heavy AA Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
208th Coast AA Regiment
198th Field Artillery Battalion
8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment
I/14th Army RIASC Base Force
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
96th Coast AA Regiment
197th Coast AA Regiment
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
77th Coast AA Regiment
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
X' Force
226th Field Artillery Battalion
XXXIII Indian Corps
16th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
23rd AA Bde
85th British AT Gun Regiment
175th USAAF Base Force
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
20th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
70th Coast AA Regiment
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment
XXXIII Corps RIASC Base Force
78th Coast AA Regiment
Southeast Asia
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
IV Indian Corps
858th Engineer Aviation Battalion

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Ground combat at Prome (55,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5268 troops, 278 guns, 176 vehicles, Assault Value = 4723

Defending force 125682 troops, 1290 guns, 1398 vehicles, Assault Value = 3609

Japanese ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/12/2017 5:39:59 PM

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June 3, 1944

The Allied fleet inches North. It's increasingly looking like he's either just baiting me or heading for Shikuka. I have always thought the latter would be a prime target. It's unfortunately almost but not quite level 7 forts, but only just about 2 divisions. I think the Allies will bring everything, so nothing anywhere right now will be enough. If he does land there it is interesting though, since that leaves some opportunity on his LOC flank through the Kuriles. I'll begin sending more our there as I can, and I've already tried to beef up Toyohara, but it may be too late to get it together since forts are only just below level 5.

Peggys announce their presence by hitting a gaggle of leading YMS.

In Burma the Allies have a very bad bombardment. Lots of guns wiped out, which is nice. for the Commonwealth troops sometimes this becomes final since reinforcements are not plentiful.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 3, 1944
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ASW attack near Ketoi-jima at 133,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-159, hits 12, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Colahan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Chester
CA Houston
CLAA Reno
DD Halligan
DD Hailey
DD Heermann
DD Healy
DD Haraden

SS I-159 launches 8 torpedoes at DD Colahan
I-159 diving deep ....

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 127,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 49
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
YMS-128, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
YMS-393, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
YMS-221, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 127,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 49
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
YMS-343, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
YMS-273, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
YMS-275

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Ground combat at Prome (55,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5292 troops, 277 guns, 176 vehicles, Assault Value = 4831

Defending force 139053 troops, 1423 guns, 2145 vehicles, Assault Value = 4051

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 48 (39 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
255th Indian Tank Brigade
14th Army Engineer Battalion
41st Infantry Division
9th Australian Division
19th Indian Division
9th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
193rd Tank Battalion
14th Indian Division
Americal Infantry Division
27th Infantry Division
40th Infantry Division
26th Indian/B Division
29th British Brigade
39th Indian Division
72nd British Brigade
5th Indian Division
754th Tank Battalion
23rd Indian Division
81st (West African) Division
26th Indian/A Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
1st New Chinese Corps
26th Indian/C Division
70th Coast AA Regiment
205th Coast AA Regiment
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
175th USAAF Base Force
1st RM Heavy AA Regiment
1st West African AA Regiment
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
16th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Southeast Asia
8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment
23rd AA Bde
85th British AT Gun Regiment
IV Indian Corps
X' Force
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
226th Field Artillery Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
78th Coast AA Regiment
I/14th Army RIASC Base Force
208th Coast AA Regiment
77th Coast AA Regiment
96th Coast AA Regiment
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment
XXXIII Corps RIASC Base Force
198th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
197th Coast AA Regiment
858th Engineer Aviation Battalion

Defending units:
2nd Tank Division
5th Division
11th Tank Regiment
4th RTA Division
1st Tank Division
14th Division
3rd RTA Division
18th Tank Regiment
31st Division
55th Division
2nd Division
14th Tank Regiment
24th Ind.Mixed Brigade
6th RTA Division
12th Air Defense AA Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
51st Field AA Battalion
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
50th Field AA Battalion
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
53rd Field AA Battalion
18th Army
44th Ind.AA Gun Co
11th Air Defense AA Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Const Co
2nd Air Defense AA Regiment
43rd Const Co
52nd Field AA Battalion
3rd Ind.AA Gun Co
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
23rd AA Regiment
11th Air Defense AA Battalion
60th Field AA Battalion
7th RF Gun Battalion
36th JNAF AF Unit

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The 36K Peggy strike....that will really cause a little rejiggering of the altitudes of the deathstar CAP I bet.

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Angels 36, and they made a torpedo attack? AND 22 of them hit something as small as a yard ship...6 times?!? A 30% hit rate was simply unheard of, even by KB's best, against capital ships. Against yard boats

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Shikuka, eh?

If he parks the deathstar one hex SW, then you can't selectively aerially strike the invasion beach. Even Jakes flying 0 hex from Shikuka will search out a couple of hexes (and be shot down). You could try flying Glens from Iboats to target the edge of Shikuka....and work a strike that way if you are so inclined.

But it might present an opportunity to race in a few destroyers at night thru the hex to the SE of Shikuka.

Even only 2 destoyers might cause a lot of reaction movements slowing down the invasion or causing collisions.

Wargamr just did this Sakhalin invasion against Mr. Kane, you might want to check his AAR.

Size 7 forts are pretty tough, if you have lots of units there to absorb the initial bombardments you might do ok. Here is a thought, break one division down into 1/3rds, the full division will bear the brunt of the naval bombardment, and the fractional division will be relatively unhurt. Another option would be to park some worthless planes there so the bombardments focus on the runways rather than the troops.

Of course you need lots of units there, especially artillery to stand any chance, and even armor. I doubt you have a lot there. Stopping what is most likely a 5 division invasion is super tough. I wouldn't feel bad about railing in troops from Toyohara...given the size 7 forts, no initial shock attack, etc.

You might get a shot at some ammo depleted surface groups after he bombards.

Your air lift should be around 500 AV or better by now per day.

Course local supply stockpiles will most likely determine your defense.

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That assumes that the USN CVs don't launch any strikes. If they launch strikes, they will be automatically detected and subject to strikes (in the PM phase) from obvert's LBA, regardless of obvert's search patterns.

Also, CVE CAP (if there is any here) would interdict air transport. LRCAP from the CVs is a little less reliable to intercept.

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Both Shikuka and Toyohara are level 1 fields, so only FP could go there. I've not planned to defend in any way other than the 8cm DP guns, MTBs, midget subs and the forts, which by the way are almost level 7, but not quite. I think I'd need another to weeks to get them there, so probably won't get it.

Either way, if he wants it he'll take it without SL in mid-44. I'm happier for him to take 1-2 bases though that still need to be supported and then try as much as possible to strengthen the Kuriles against further invasions. Unless he has some of those still in mind and prepped as well, but it seems not for right this moment.

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June 4, 1944

The Allied fleet slowly move in on Shikuka. It's amazing to watch, even more so on this day. The USN DDs moved in first and took out the majority of the MTBs. One survived, burning, and fled into the ocean.

As MTB-846 fought it's fire it had a front row seat to watch what looks like the entire Allied armada slide past. Pics posted in succession below. Always good to have a view before complete annihilation.

The Allies flew and sank a retreating cargo TF. I'm kicking myself I didn't have better LR CAP here. Won't make that mistake again. Bleeding CAP just didn't arrive, and this was a golden opportunity to reduce the DS a bit. Mad at myself.

At Prome the Allied bombardment destroyed two of their units! Siege guns doing their job!

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Shikuka at 126,45, Range 30,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-846, heavy fires

Allied Ships
CV Enterprise
CV Hornet
CV Essex
CV Bunker Hill
CVL Independence
CVL Princeton
CVL Belleau Wood
BB Washington
CA Indianapolis
CLAA Atlanta
DD Sampson
DD Warrington
DD Benham
DD Ellet
DD Lang
DD Stack
DD Sterett
DD Clark
CL Houston II

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Shikuka at 126,45, Range 30,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-846, heavy fires

Allied Ships
CV Saratoga
CV Yorktown
CV Intrepid
CV Emperor Norton I.
CVL Monterey
CVL Langley
CVL Bataan
BB Alabama
CA Salt Lake City
CLAA Juneau
CL Montpelier
DD Ingraham
DD Welles
DD Bailey
DD Henley
DD Craven
DD Gridley
DD Maury
DD Porter

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Shikuka at 126,45, Range 30,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-846, heavy fires

Allied Ships
CV Franklin
CL Richmond
DD Isherwood
DD Johnston
DD Kidd
DD Kimberly
DD Knapp
DD Gansevoort
DD Gillespie
DD Hobby
CL Vincennes II

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Shikuka at 126,45, Range 14,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-846, Shell hits 13, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DMS Dorsey
DMS Long

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 18,000 yards
Range closes to 26,000 yards...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Wakkanai at 123,48

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 20

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 10
F4U-1A Corsair x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 160
SBD-5 Dauntless x 62
TBM-1C Avenger x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Avenger II: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Monji Maru, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAK Yamabuki Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
SC CHa-37, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Eihuku Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Tateisi Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Hankow Maru, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk
xAK Mito Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PB Kensin Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Avenger II launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Bihoro at 124,49

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3
J2M3 Jack x 14

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 105
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 31
SBD-5 Dauntless x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-42, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SC CHa-39, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

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Ground combat at Prome (55,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5133 troops, 243 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 3897

Defending force 139199 troops, 1429 guns, 2149 vehicles, Assault Value = 4062

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
328 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 44 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 59 (52 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (15 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

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Looks like tomorrow will be D-Day.

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Sure enough, Shikuka is invaded!

Interesting it's only Shikuka and not also Toyohara. Does he have it prepped? I can't imagine he wouldn't. I'm flying in troops fast, but increasing AV about 100/day there.

I think in the below landing report I count 6 x ID!! That will be a one and done shock and Shikuka will go to the Allies.

The coastal guns create a bit of disruption and hurt some LSTs, but other than that this is pretty smooth as landings go. All decent CD guns are on Hokkaido and in the Marianas. Those are moving up soon to Hokkaido and Honshu bases.

One mini-sub takes out an LST. That's it.

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Amphibious Assault at Shikuka (126,43)

TF 483 troops unloading over beach at Shikuka, 126,43

Allied ground losses:
506 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 108 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 52 (1 destroyed, 51 disabled)
Vehicles lost 21 (5 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Motorized Support accidentally lost during unload of 25th Infantry Div
13 troops of a USMC Rifle Squad 43 lost overboard during unload of 2nd Marine Div
3" Mortar 43 lost in surf during unload of 5th Australian Div /3
Motorized Support accidentally lost during unload of 3rd Australian Div /7
15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 2nd Marine Div /5
11 troops of a AIF Inf Section 43 lost from landing craft during unload of 5th Australian Div /6
Motorized Support lost in surf during unload of 2nd Marine Div /9
13 troops of a USA Rifle Squad 43 accidentally lost during unload of 24th Infantry Div /4
Motorized Support accidentally lost during unload of 93rd Infantry Div /5
13 troops of a USA Rifle Squad 43 lost from landing craft during unload of 98th Infantry Div
Motorized Support dropped into water during unload of 98th Infantry Div /8

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Submarine attack near Shikuka at 126,43

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-45

Allied Ships
LST-245, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

LST-245 is sighted by SSX Ha-45
SSX Ha-45 launches 2 torpedoes at LST-245

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Ground combat at Shikuka (126,43)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 21735 troops, 233 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 731

Defending force 143426 troops, 1808 guns, 2924 vehicles, Assault Value = 4257

Japanese ground losses:
346 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
20th Division
109th Div /1
39th Const Co
26th Special Base Force

Defending units:
192nd Tank Battalion
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
2nd Marine Division
364th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
18th Combat Engr Rgt /1
93rd Infantry Division
3rd Regiment
12th NZ Brigade
112th Cavalry Regiment
31st Infantry Regiment
208th USA Battalion
766th Tank Battalion
706th Tank Battalion
24th Infantry Division
3rd Australian Division
25th Infantry Division
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
111th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
5th Australian Division
4th Armoured Brigade
2nd Regiment
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
98th Infantry Div /28
131st Field Artillery Battalion
4th Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Regiment
Provisional GMC Grp /1
148th Field Artillery Battalion
VII US Fighter Cmnd
V US Bomber Cmnd
227th USN Base Force /8
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
82nd Mortar Battalion
Pacific Ocean Areas /1
98th Field Artillery Battalion
31st Infantry Div /18
225th Field Artillery Battalion
South Pacific /2
I Corps Artillery
7th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th Infantry Div /31
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The Allies shock and take Shikuka. They are also smart and land at Toyohara, meaning the Shikuka troops do not retreat. No flying them out now.

Also, it looks like the rest of the kitchen sink at Toyohara. I will not have enough there in time to save that base either. The good part is that I'm attritting the DS CAP slightly (while also getting some 2E TB shredded for no hits) and I will try some sweeps. He landed a few units outside of the base as well, so I have a target. I'm hoping to catch bleeding CAP and then possibly, a KB strike!!

Night Frances attack but no hits on the DS. Nice to see them find the big boys though.

I also had Peggys and Judys going at Toyohara in the day, and they were slaughtered. Not unexpected though. I did get to see that the high setting didn't make much difference on its own, but might later with the addition of other low and mid level settings. Some did miraculously get through, but Allied flak is horrific at this point too.

The KB is ready, and will move to a distant possible attack position, well protected by extra LBA on LR CAP over the surface combat TFs. I won't throw all LBA at them too, since the strike position is not advantageous in case he holds back and they end up attacking alone. I don't think they'll move forward, but the sweeps and large KB strike on forward shipping could do well to weaken the DS.

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Night Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 125,45

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 15

Allied aircraft
F4U-2 Corsair x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 12 damaged
P1Y1 Frances: 4 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown
CV Intrepid
CV Emperor Norton I.
CVL Bataan

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Night Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 125,45

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 5

Allied aircraft
F4U-2 Corsair x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 3 damaged
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown
CVL Bataan

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 124,46

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 117 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 13
D4Y1 Judy x 25
J2M3 Jack x 36
N1K2-J George x 36
Ki-84a Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 120
F6F-3 Hellcat x 264

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 18 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 5 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 124,46

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 81 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 10
D4Y3 Judy x 25
J2M2 Jack x 27
N1K2-J George x 9
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 49

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 93
F6F-3 Hellcat x 208

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
D4Y3 Judy: 17 destroyed
J2M2 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAP Santa Inez

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 124,46

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 198 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 54 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 8
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 96
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 9

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 62
F6F-3 Hellcat x 129

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 17 destroyed
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAK Sophocles

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 31000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Toyohara (124,46)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12920 troops, 92 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 421

Defending force 40811 troops, 672 guns, 1245 vehicles, Assault Value = 1569

Japanese ground losses:
98 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
109th Div /2
Karafuto Mixed Brigade
72nd Div /1
38th Const Co

Defending units:
3rd NZ Armoured Sqn
110th Combat Engineer Battalion
711th Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Bn /1
6th Infantry Div /15
I Corps Cmbt Engr Rgt /6
31st Infantry Div /7
670th Tank Destroyer Battalion
4th USMC Tank Battalion
194th Tank Bn /1
5th USMC Tank Battalion
15th NZ Bde /10
223rd USN Base Force /1
XI Corps Artillery
51st Marine Def Bn /4
11th USMC FA Bn /1
Southwest Pacific /3
2/198th Coast AA Bn /1
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XIV Corps Artillery /1
119th USAAF Base Force /2
VII US Bomber Cmnd /1
224th USN Base Force /5
177th USAAF Base Force /4
17th Marine Def Bn /3

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Ground combat at Shikuka (126,43)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 138839 troops, 1809 guns, 2882 vehicles, Assault Value = 4305

Defending force 24567 troops, 254 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 674

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 4999

Japanese adjusted defense: 86

Allied assault odds: 58 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Shikuka !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
9516 casualties reported
Squads: 330 destroyed, 208 disabled
Non Combat: 53 destroyed, 126 disabled
Engineers: 132 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 150 (123 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 33 (31 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
4461 casualties reported
Squads: 38 destroyed, 357 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 91 disabled
Engineers: 29 destroyed, 72 disabled
Guns lost 71 (4 destroyed, 67 disabled)
Vehicles lost 90 (13 destroyed, 77 disabled)

Assaulting units:
98th Infantry Division
24th Infantry Division
111th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
766th Tank Battalion
706th Tank Battalion
3rd Regiment
2nd Marine Division
18th Combat Engineer Regiment
2nd Regiment
192nd Tank Battalion
4th Armoured Brigade
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
364th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
112th Cavalry Regiment
31st Infantry Regiment
3rd Australian Division
208th USA Battalion
25th Infantry Division
93rd Infantry Division
5th Australian Division
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
12th NZ Brigade
4th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
82nd Mortar Battalion
31st Infantry Div /18
225th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Regiment
227th USN Base Force
Provisional GMC Grp
South Pacific /2
I Corps Artillery
VII US Fighter Cmnd
V US Bomber Cmnd
98th Field Artillery Battalion
7th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
Pacific Ocean Areas /1
6th Infantry Div /31
XI US Corps /6

Defending units:
20th Division
109th Div /1
39th Const Co
26th Special Base Force
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I forgot to copy the air loss totals. We lost about 260+ planes, mostly Judys, Oscars and Peggys. All planes I have massive pools for which is nice. Not bad actually for hitting the DS unexpectedly.

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June 7, 1944

The 7th starts with the Frances again finding the DS. They're like the guard dogs, barking at the fences that alert everyone to the position of the intruder. On this night they may have helped guide subs to their target. Initially this resulted in two subs being crushed by ASW and one getting hit by a USN boat with 3 fish. Ouch.

After this the old BBs bombard Toyohara, an IJN sub hits a mine and then gets crushed by ASW, and the IJN dishes a bit of payback by hitting SS Guitarro with one.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 7, 1944
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Sub vs Sub: SS Mingo attacking SS I-185 at 126,48 - near Toyohara

Japanese Ships
SS I-185, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Mingo

SS Mingo launches 6 torpedoes at 1,000 yards

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ASW attack near Shikuka at 125,45

Japanese Ships
SS I-176, hits 15, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DE Weaver
xAK George Middlemas
xAK Benjamin Waterhouse

SS I-176 launches 6 torpedoes at DE Weaver
DE Weaver fails to find sub, continues to search...

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Night Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 125,45

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 7

Allied aircraft
F4U-2 Corsair x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 3 damaged
P1Y1 Frances: 2 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CV Illustrious

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Night Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 125,45

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 6

Allied aircraft
F4U-2 Corsair x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 3 damaged
P1Y1 Frances: 2 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CVE Natoma Bay
CVE Liscome Bay

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x P1Y1 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Submarine attack near Toyohara at 124,46

Japanese Ships
SS I-18, hits 27, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
CA Wichita
CL Nashville
DD Halsey Powell
DD Renshaw
DD Remey
DD Abner Read

SS I-18 is sighted by escort

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Night Naval bombardment of Toyohara at 124,46

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 8 damaged
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
CA Wichita
CL Nashville
DD Renshaw
DD Remey
DD Abner Read
DD Pringle
DD Prichett
DD Halsey Powell

Japanese ground losses:
369 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled

Manpower hits 7
Light Industry hits 1
Fires 4876
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 17
Port hits 19
Port supply hits 2

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Mississippi

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Sub vs Sub: SS I-183 attacking SS Guitarro at 127,46 - near Shikuka

Japanese Ships
SS I-183

Allied Ships
SS Guitarro, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

SS I-183 launches 6 torpedoes at 3,000 yards

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Submarine attack near Shikuka at 126,44

Japanese Ships
SS I-179, hits 34, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
CA Wichita
CL Nashville
DD Prichett
DD Renshaw
DD Remey
DD Abner Read

SS I-179 is sighted by escort
DD Renshaw attacking submerged sub ....
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/13/2017 11:03:31 AM

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June 7, 1944

After a night of tracking, daybreak reveals the entire USN DS in the periscope sight of I-183!!

The skipper does the quick calculations, waits just that extra moment to be sure, then lets fly with a spread of 6 Type 95 torpedoes. The wait is agonising, but at last a flash of water shoots above the flight deck and the sound man yells a "Banzai!"

Only one hit, but as the commander continued to monitor for a few lasts moments before crash diving, maybe a moment too long, there was a secondary explosion that rocked the carrier and sent debris flying out across the water.

Exhilerated and shaking, he ordered a dive and immediate change of course. Sadly, it was too late for this crew ...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR June 7, 1944
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Sub attack near Shikuka at 125,45

Japanese Ships
SS I-183, hits 21, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CV Franklin, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Vincennes II
DD Hobby
DD Gillespie
DD Gansevoort
DD Knapp

Fuel storage explosion on CV Franklin
SS I-183 launches 6 torpedoes at CV Franklin
DD Hobby fails to find sub and abandons search
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An ammo storage explosion should make this hit debilitating enough to require a trip back to the yards. That means essentially 4-6 months without CV Franklin, which is fantastic.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 12/13/2017 11:47:23 AM

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While sinking an Allied CV would be great, at this point in time just damaging one enough to require it to be withdrawn from the DS is enough, IMO.

BANZAI!!

If you have the time, can you lay out your plans for defending the Kuriles??

Can you do anything about his staging bases in western Aleutians?

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