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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 3/23/2018 4:47:45 PM

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You should give us a picture of your economic graphic from tracker...and then do it again once monthly so we can track the effectiveness of the Allied strategic bombing campaign...

I am curious to see how well an effective attritional air game can slow down/mitigate this deep invasion tactic. My guess is pretty well.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 3/23/2018 7:49:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

You should give us a picture of your economic graphic from tracker...and then do it again once monthly so we can track the effectiveness of the Allied strategic bombing campaign...

I am curious to see how well an effective attritional air game can slow down/mitigate this deep invasion tactic. My guess is pretty well.

I haven't reinstalled tracker on my new machine, so I haven't been using it at all. I might try this weekend. It's a good idea. I've been collecting scenes of the info and air losses to compare over time, but there is a lot of changeability and FOW in air losses.

I am pretty sure that about 100 B-29-1 have been destroyed in about the last 45 days.

I'm also putting together a sheet of approximate airframe totals at this point and what has been lost by best estimates.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 3/23/2018 7:53:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Nick D has radar?

Sorry, I meant it's using base radar from Matsuyama. Somehow they ended up there in number from Hiroshima, so that's my guess. Those reactions weren't happening a month ago, which confused me at first, because I was so used to them working from my last game. I realised how much earlier this was and that a lot of the IJNAF base forces were still all over the map. Now every major base with industry has at least one radar and most likely 3-4 of various types.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 3/26/2018 11:29:14 AM

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July 31, 1944

The Allies go for the Kuriles airfields at last. I was wondering when this would happen. Currently all of the bases are defended by big base forces with lots of 12cm and 8cm DP guns. This strike at 8k feet resulted in decent hits to the fields but also a lot of 4Es damaged. I would guess some didn't make it back.

Shasukotan has nearly 200 engineers so this damage will be fixed quickly and they'll hopefully be back to building forts and enlarging the airfield to size 4 within a day or two. Maybe the Allies will come back, but it will be a difficult campaign to continue keeping damage on fields and inhibiting fort building. Para and Onneketon are nearing forts 6, with just a few days to go. A few other bases, the middle three, are still only approaching forts 5, but have a ton of engineers. Uruppa and Etorofu are all set with forts 6 and full garrisons of 1,100-1,200AV.

It's nearly August 44. On August 7 it'll be two full months of Allied occupation on Sakhalin.

In August the Japanese get a lot of nice new airframes. The J2M5 is coming online. This will also increase Jack production from 75 to 105. The Frank Ki-84b is arriving, adding another 90 Franks to the fighter pools each month. The Myrt will be producing for recon, switching from the Judy line. Also, the Randy Ki-102b FB will take over as frontline FB from the Nick Ia that's been going since 42. I'll be making 30 of those but I'll keep making 34 Nick Ia, since I plan to convert a few more MB groups to FB (using PPs).

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR July 31, 1944
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Morning Air attack on Shasukotan , at 135,49

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 41,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Shasukotan , at 135,49

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
B-24J Liberator x 25
P-38J Lightning x 23
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 14
F4U-1 Corsair x 17
F4U-1A Corsair x 18
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed on ground
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 5 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 43

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shasukotan , at 135,49

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 10
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shasukotan , at 135,49

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shasukotan , at 135,49

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shasukotan , at 135,49

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shasukotan , at 135,49

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/5/2018 3:25:50 PM

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August 1-4, 1944

Ok. A lot of ground to cover. We were away for Easter and although turns have been continuing, I haven't had time to update. There has been a bit more action lately.

The attacks on the Kuriles were either postponed or rained out for a few days, but began again on the 4th of August. I had set two groups of Georges in a low CAP trap on Shimushiri-Jima, and although there was no recon, the Allies recommenced right there. They got the better of the Georges, though. I think this is when I realise having multiple airframe types do what they do best at each level of the CAP is really the best practice.

The Georges got some back when the bombers and their escorts arrived. He's using good fighters to escort, which gets the bombers through, but I'll take 8 Corsairs for a strike on a non-industrial target. These islands are built up, and only really need more forts at this point. If he's going to lose 4Es and 3rd gen fighters to bomb them, that's all good by me, especially since the damage is cleaned up after a day or two with 200+ engineers on each base.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 4, 1944
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Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 37,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 76

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Uruppu-jima , at 130,52

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11
P-38J Lightning x 23
F4U-1A Corsair x 36
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Uruppu-jima , at 130,52

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 31

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 9 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 32

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 18
B-24J Liberator x 11
F4U-1A Corsair x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 8 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged
F4U-1A Corsair: 4 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 16

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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With 4-5 B-24s lost, many more damaged, about 12-15 Corsairs downed, the day was definitely worth the loss of 25 Georges. The Japanese don't have extensive pools, but this is loss without significant VP gain or destruction of industry, and that is good at this point in game. The defensive war continues, but it won't for ever. More offensive weapons and opportunities are on the horizon.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/5/2018 9:31:44 PM

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August 5-7, 1944

I've got some catching up to do here. I'l try to get current by the weekend at least, but Dan has suddenly been sending turns more frequently. I guess with only one game going he can do that now and still get out for some mountain walking!

During these turns the Allies picked Onneketon-Kima to pound with the 4Es. Flak does it's job though, limiting hits and taking out a handful of 4Es, including some B-29s, while damaging many more. A few bombers lost on the ground for the IJ, but nothing major. I'll move the ASW crews back for now.

No strikes on the 7th, but lost a TK to the Golet near Daito. A rare sub hit on something important.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 5, 1944
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Morning Air attack on Onnekotan-jima , at 136,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
B-24J Liberator x 28
P-38J Lightning x 36
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 16
P-51B Mustang x 16
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 2 destroyed on ground
B6N1 Jill: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 8 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 8 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 8 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Onnekotan-jima , at 136,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
B-24J Liberator x 9
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 16
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed on ground
B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Onnekotan-jima , at 136,48

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 6, 1944
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Morning Air attack on Onnekotan-jima , at 136,48

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 24
B-29-1 Superfort x 9
P-38L Lightning x 24
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 8
P-51B Mustang x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 7 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 55,51 (near Prome)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2103 troops, 98 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 4411

Defending force 109687 troops, 1117 guns, 1082 vehicles, Assault Value = 3176

Japanese ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
46th Indian Brigade
Guides Cavalry Regiment
32nd Infantry Division
27th Infantry Division
25th Indian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
23rd Chindit Brigade
14th Chindit Brigade
193rd Tank Battalion
5th Chinese Corps
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
50th Indian Para Brigade
754th Tank Battalion
255th Indian Tank Brigade
6th Chinese Corps
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Indian AA Bde
8th Medium Regiment
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
197th Coast AA Regiment
33rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment

Defending units:
31st Division
1st Tank Division
14th Tank Regiment
48th Division
18th Division
55th Division
5th Division
2nd Division
23rd AA Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
70th Field AA Battalion
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
51st Field AA Battalion
43rd Const Co
16th AA Regiment
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
60th Field AA Battalion
69th Field AA Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion

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A shot of Burma. I've moved back out of Prome, and the Thais have gone home. A few brigades arrived to combine into divisions with some here, so that helped plug a few holes. It looks like the Allies might try a river crossing one hex outside of Rangoon. I'm curious about that. I'll make sure a lot of tanks and heavy arty are there digging, and we'll wait and see what happens.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/6/2018 9:03:09 AM

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August 8, 1944

Tough day in the air as the Allies go for Kushiro and get about 3:1 with numerous sweeps. I had a fourth band for my low CAP settings here, but I think it messed up the balance a bit. I'll go back to normal 9k-7k-5k. Still he does lose a lot more than these reports would indicate, based on my watching of the replay, and the ops losses from damaged planes heading home should be high as well. At least we only lose 30 or so pilots KIA. I am getting short on the pools right now. I need training groups!! This is early to be having fights over the Home Islands and it messes up Japanese training programs completely.

Still, I have faith that with the numerous groups available I can keep rotating, recovering, flying CAP in rear bases with rookies, and whittling down the Allied pools. He will be getting low on P-47D2 soon, and the P-47N doesn't start until earl 45. The Corsairs are plentiful though, and he's using them liberally and effectively. Hopefully this is limiting the numbers and pools for CV use later.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 8, 1944
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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 40,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 18
A6M8 Zero x 8
N1K2-J George x 81
Ki-84a Frank x 98

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 39,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 16
A6M8 Zero x 8
N1K2-J George x 73
Ki-84a Frank x 84

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 40,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 12
A6M8 Zero x 6
N1K2-J George x 63
Ki-84a Frank x 75

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 9
A6M8 Zero x 6
N1K2-J George x 54
Ki-84a Frank x 62

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
12 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
5 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 49,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 7
A6M8 Zero x 5
N1K2-J George x 45
Ki-84a Frank x 47

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 5
A6M8 Zero x 4
N1K2-J George x 32
Ki-84a Frank x 36

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x P-38L Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
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Ouch.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/6/2018 1:05:40 PM

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Try not to use the slow 5c in a layered CAP....it seems to me the slow speed really makes the low cap under perform. Oscar IV which is a bit faster is as slow as I would go when mixed with Franks.

They 5c makes for great anti carrier cap traps as it still can shoot down Hellcats and even Corsairs that are escorting bombers, deep bomber defense and also good for escort of slower kamikazes...whenever you get them.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/8/2018 12:36:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Try not to use the slow 5c in a layered CAP....it seems to me the slow speed really makes the low cap under perform. Oscar IV which is a bit faster is as slow as I would go when mixed with Franks.

They 5c makes for great anti carrier cap traps as it still can shoot down Hellcats and even Corsairs that are escorting bombers, deep bomber defense and also good for escort of slower kamikazes...whenever you get them.

Thanks. Could be that. I usually have Oscars or A6M8 or Tojo down there. Actually the Tojo and Oscar IV seem to work the best, so that supports what you're saying. Nice since I have a lot of those.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/8/2018 12:55:52 PM

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August 9-12, 1944

The 9th is mostly quiet, with strikes at Urruppa-Jima and Liauyuan in Manchuria. I fully support the B-29s being used for these kinds of strikes!! Quite a few are damaged on the day, and very little damage recorded in spite of eh low altitudes against the industry.

On the 10th Ketoi-Jima is the main target with a few more strikes at Uruppa. Several B-24J lost on the day, and a lot more damaged. The Allies bombard near Prome, getting about equal losses since the IJA hasn't yet dug in completely.

On the 11th Allied DDs run in and sink two good E torpedo boats. Didn't see them coming and I've moved my DBs out since the air strikes are walking closer to Para now.

More 4E lost to flak as the Allies target Simushiri-Jima.

On the 12th the Allies furiously strike at Rangoon and Sapporo with massive sweeps. The losses on both sides are huge, but the IJ pilots hold their own and get close to 1:1 on the day. The Corsairs were tough, the Hellcats vulnerable, and the P-47s got about 1:1 only, which is the point of the low CAP.

About 55 pilots lost on the day, but I bet the Allies lost more. Lets see what happens tomorrow. I'll switch out groups, but keep CAP going at both bases.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 9, 1944
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Morning Air attack on Uruppu-jima , at 130,52

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 12
B-29-1 Superfort x 21
P-38J Lightning x 25
P-51B Mustang x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 5

No Allied losses

Resources hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 3000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 7

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 3000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Liaoyuan , at 105,40

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 15

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged

Light Industry hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 3000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Ketoi-jima , at 134,50

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 12
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 32

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 3 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 11 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Ketoi-jima , at 134,50

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 20

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 10 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Uruppu-jima , at 130,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 7
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 55,51 (near Prome)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 141312 troops, 1300 guns, 1180 vehicles, Assault Value = 4433

Defending force 109747 troops, 1117 guns, 1082 vehicles, Assault Value = 3178

Japanese ground losses:
169 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Guides Cavalry Regiment
193rd Tank Battalion
27th Infantry Division
32nd Infantry Division
14th Chindit Brigade
5th Chinese Corps
50th Indian Para Brigade
1st New Chinese Corps
25th Indian Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
23rd Chindit Brigade
754th Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
46th Indian Brigade
6th Chinese Corps
2nd Indian AA Bde
197th Coast AA Regiment
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
8th Medium Regiment
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
33rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment

Defending units:
48th Division
1st Tank Division
55th Division
18th Division
31st Division
5th Division
14th Tank Regiment
2nd Division
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion
69th Field AA Battalion
43rd Const Co
70th Field AA Battalion
60th Field AA Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
23rd AA Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
16th AA Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
51st Field AA Battalion
11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 11, 1944
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Paramushiro-jima at 139,47, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E Hatsukari, Shell hits 19, heavy fires, heavy damage
E Tomozuru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Stevens
DD Isaac Sweers

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 26,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 18,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
DD Stevens engages E Tomozuru at 13,000 yards

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Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Liberator B.VI x 9
B-24J Liberator x 11
B-25H Mitchell x 23
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 9 damaged

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 41,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 36
N1K1-J George x 45
N1K2-J George x 90
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 20
Ki-84a Frank x 20

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 42,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 32
N1K1-J George x 39
N1K2-J George x 72
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 20
Ki-84a Frank x 17

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 36,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 29
N1K1-J George x 37
N1K2-J George x 68
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 16
Ki-84a Frank x 16

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Corsair II sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 37,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 42
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 77
Ki-84a Frank x 54

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 38,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 23
N1K1-J George x 36
N1K2-J George x 60
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 14
Ki-84a Frank x 14

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 40,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 20
N1K1-J George x 30
N1K2-J George x 53
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 14
Ki-84a Frank x 12

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 10 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 41
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 72
Ki-84a Frank x 51

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 40
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 60
Ki-84a Frank x 49

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 7 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 16
N1K1-J George x 24
N1K2-J George x 49
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 11
Ki-84a Frank x 11

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 34
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 54
Ki-84a Frank x 37

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 9 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 48,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 14
N1K1-J George x 21
N1K2-J George x 45
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 11
Ki-84a Frank x 10

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 7 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 4
B-24J Liberator x 18
P-38J Lightning x 18
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 15
P-51B Mustang x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 8 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 23
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 24
Ki-84a Frank x 25

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 9
N1K1-J George x 17
N1K2-J George x 17
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 5
Ki-84a Frank x 8

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed

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August 13, 1944

Big sweeps again. Not much else to say. The Japanese hold their own, and on the day it's a positive result, with a lot of success against Mustang early versions and complete annihilation of the two P-40N sweeps.

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 41,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 17
N1K1-J George x 14
N1K2-J George x 62
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 19
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 34
Ki-84a Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 41,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 15
N1K1-J George x 13
N1K2-J George x 55
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 11
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 22
Ki-84a Frank x 11

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 41,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 10
N1K1-J George x 6
N1K2-J George x 47
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 11
Ki-84a Frank x 7

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 8
N1K1-J George x 5
N1K2-J George x 39
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 9
Ki-84a Frank x 6

Allied aircraft
P-51B Mustang x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51B Mustang: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 55
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 55
Ki-84a Frank x 54

Allied aircraft
P-40N5 Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N5 Warhawk: 12 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 52
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 54
Ki-84a Frank x 54

Allied aircraft
P-40N5 Warhawk x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N5 Warhawk: 12 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 47,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 50
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 52
Ki-84a Frank x 52

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 47,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 6
N1K1-J George x 3
N1K2-J George x 32
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 9
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 8
Ki-84a Frank x 6

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 42
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 45
Ki-84a Frank x 44

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 35
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 39
Ki-84a Frank x 38

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 27
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 29
Ki-84a Frank x 30

Allied aircraft
P-51B Mustang x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51B Mustang: 5 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-51B Mustang sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Ketoi-jima , at 134,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 26
P-38J Lightning x 25
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 16
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 29

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 9 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 36

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Ketoi-jima , at 134,50

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 10
B-24J Liberator x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 4 damaged
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
87 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 25
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 22

Allied aircraft
P-51A Mustang x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51A Mustang: 6 destroyed
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August 14, 1944

On the 14th the Allies fly only a few Hurri sweeps and one by Spit VIII. None do well. I'm surprised by how well the defence has handled the Spit VIII in particular. This airframe is usually among the toughest. Maybe the RAF pilots are not as strong?

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 14, 1944
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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 39,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 25
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 46
Ki-84a Frank x 27

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 23
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36
Ki-84a Frank x 21

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 36,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 22
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 29
Ki-84a Frank x 17

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 6 destroyed
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The current scene in Burma. He still looks to be moving into the jungle hex just outside of Rangoon for a shock across the river. We'll see.

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August 15, 1944

Almost caught up. Only about five more days to go over to get to the present turn. It's a lot of the same right now, the Allies trying to wear down Japanese defences. I've kept the bases being attacked to a strict limit of CAP for a few reasons. I could flood Sapporo with 500 fighters, but I want to both encourage continuing sweeps and continue to get close to 1:1 in losses. Over our bases this should mean we are winning the pilot quality battle as well, as Allied aces go KIA/MIA in enemy territory. Managing the low CAP seems to work better with smaller numbers, somewhere between 200-300 planes. More than that and the big bad Corsair sweeps really accumulate more losses.

I also want to win the airframe battle, but it'll be hard for the next few months. I won't be able to field only Franks and Georges to deal with what the Allies are using. Oscars and Tojos have an important place as low CAP, and they have larger pools right now. I am completely out of Georges after adding to depleted groups this turn, and Franks are near the end of he pools, but I have the 90 Frank Ki-84b that have just come online and I've just fleshed out my first group of those, so this should keep me flying Franks as top of the low CAP for a good while. The J2M5 is also producing, and once those are more plentiful, I'll put those in the middle 7k band and/or on the top 9k band of CAP.

The next and last edition of the George, the N1K5, will begin production in late September I am predicting, so about a month from now. That'll double George production (up to 240) and fill in nicely as we wait for the Ki-84r that will arrive in late Nov or early Dec 44.

On the 15th the Allies sent the sweeps again. Corsairs are tough!! Luckily he sent Hellcats and Lightnings too. The Allies win the day, but only 118-95. How long can we each sustain 70-100 fighter losses a day?

In OZ the Allies move on Katherine and take it easily. They'll have Darwin within a few weeks. Then what?

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 15, 1944
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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 38,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 36
N1K1-J George x 16
N1K2-J George x 50
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 36
Ki-84a Frank x 77

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 40,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 34
N1K1-J George x 15
N1K2-J George x 46
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 32
Ki-84a Frank x 71

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Corsair II sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 44,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 28
N1K1-J George x 13
N1K2-J George x 40
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 21
Ki-84a Frank x 61

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 5 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 38800 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 44,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 24
N1K1-J George x 12
N1K2-J George x 32
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 20
Ki-84a Frank x 53

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 36,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 19
N1K1-J George x 9
N1K2-J George x 29
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 46

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 15
N1K1-J George x 7
N1K2-J George x 27
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 14
Ki-84a Frank x 34

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 12
N1K1-J George x 4
N1K2-J George x 25
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 11
Ki-84a Frank x 25

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 48,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 7
N1K1-J George x 3
N1K2-J George x 22
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10
Ki-84a Frank x 20

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 40,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 7
N1K1-J George x 2
N1K2-J George x 21
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10
Ki-84a Frank x 16

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 5
N1K1-J George x 2
N1K2-J George x 13
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 8
Ki-84a Frank x 10

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 40,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 3
N1K1-J George x 1
N1K2-J George x 9
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 5
Ki-84a Frank x 6

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 40,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 26
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 49
Ki-84a Frank x 25

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed

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Ground combat at Katherine (76,128)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8595 troops, 136 guns, 61 vehicles, Assault Value = 199

Defending force 1356 troops, 14 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 39

Allied adjusted assault: 111

Japanese adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Katherine !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
753 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
4th Australian/A Division
10 RAAF Base Force
13th Australian Hvy AA Regiment

Defending units:
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
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August 16, 1944

A lot of sweeps again at Sapporo and a few more at Rangoon. Corsairs continue to do a lot of damage and the other airframes struggle. I'll switch to trying some high CAP to get above Corsairs soon, but then the P-47 and P-38 will do better. Always a compromise!

Urruppa is hit again, but a lot of 4Es damaged. Forts continue to build after cleanup at other Kuriles bases.

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August 17, 1944

Sweeps continue. Shocked still at how well the Japanese are handling the Spit VIII. In one sweep the CAP at Rangoon took out almost a whole 18 plane group.

Corsairs pick off a lot of A6M8 I forgot to limit range on after moving CAP out of Sapporo. Silly, but it happens. The 4Es suffered a lot from Flak taking on Shasukotan. Not bad overall, getting 5 4E and 29 Spit VIII altogether.

In OZ the Allies move quickly to take Fenton. I might have to fly in a garrison unit to Darwin just to hold them off for a while. Delay, delay, delay.

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 39,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 32

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 42,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 28
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 47
Ki-84a Frank x 30

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18
Hurricane IIc Trop x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 3 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Shasukotan , at 135,49

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 22
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 16 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 13 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 61

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 45,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 28
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36
Ki-84a Frank x 27

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 60 NM, estimated altitude 44,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 25
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 26
Ki-84a Frank x 24

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 8 destroyed

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Ground combat at Fenton (76,126)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1077 troops, 0 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Defending force 1621 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 49

Allied adjusted assault: 21

Japanese adjusted defense: 2

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Fenton !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
488 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2/7th Armoured Regiment

Defending units:
16th Naval Guard Unit
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August 18, 1944

Today the high CAP was tried at Sapporo for the first time. It didn't do badly against Corsairs, but did suffer more as expected during P-47 sweeps. On the day though it was a huge success, as the Allies decided to try a limited bombing strike there, using mostly RAF Libs. The almost intact CAP that didn't lose it's strength fighting the gullwings decimated the Hellcat escorts before digging into the bombers. A few were shot down, a few more damaged and then killed off by Flak, and the strike got almost no hits against the base.

If not for 25 Judys lost on the ground in the Kuriles the Japanese would have had a big positive in air loss points, but still do well where it counts. I'll be counting up airframes soon to see what Allied pools might look like now, but I have to think he'll be running thin on Corsairs, Hellcats, P-47s and earlier P-38s by now.

Very little progress has been made in strat bombing VPs over the last month as defences have stiffened. On July 28 the total was 2508 compared to 2526 on Aug 18. This gives me hope that a tough Japanese air defence can fight off the one base kitchen sink landing at shizuoka and at least make him take some risks to extend that foothold, creating some opportunities for Japan.

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 36,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 46
A6M8 Zero x 66
J2M3 Jack x 36
N1K1-J George x 7

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 41,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 39
A6M8 Zero x 64
J2M3 Jack x 36
N1K1-J George x 7

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 39,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 21
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 37
Ki-84a Frank x 31

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 38,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 21
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36
Ki-84a Frank x 31

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 36,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 20
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 34
Ki-84a Frank x 29

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 36
A6M8 Zero x 58
J2M3 Jack x 35
N1K1-J George x 7

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M8 Zero: 3 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 19
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 30
Ki-84a Frank x 29

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 48,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 34
A6M8 Zero x 45
J2M3 Jack x 31
N1K1-J George x 6

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 4 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 15
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 23
Ki-84a Frank x 23

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 12
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 16

Allied aircraft
P-51B Mustang x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51B Mustang: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P-51B Mustang sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 39,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 32
A6M8 Zero x 34
J2M3 Jack x 23
N1K1-J George x 5

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M8 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 63 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 29
A6M8 Zero x 26
J2M3 Jack x 18
N1K1-J George x 4

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 10
Liberator GR.VI x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.III: 8 damaged
Liberator B.III: 1 destroyed by flak
Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Resources hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 23
A6M8 Zero x 26
J2M3 Jack x 16
N1K1-J George x 4

Allied aircraft
Liberator GR.VI x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed

Resources hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 15
A6M8 Zero x 13
J2M3 Jack x 12
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M8 Zero: 2 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 8
A6M8 Zero x 5
J2M3 Jack x 7
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed
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Corsair sweeps hit the CAP hard to start off on the 19th.

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The CAP is still strong as the bombers arrive, and the escorts are whittled down to the point that the 4Es are hit before the bombing runs.

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The second B-29 run is really hit hard, with quite a few being shot down and many more damaged and more susceptible to Flak and ops losses.

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August 19, 1944

Back to the grind on the 19th. Amazing this has been going so long. Knowing Dan, and having read many of his AARs, I would guess he is interested in "attriting" the Japanese air force, but it feels to me with the average losses being nearly equal over the past 8-10 days, the Allies will be hurting more than the Japanese at this point. One indication is seeing 400+ auxiliary aircraft at Shikuka, and fighter numbers dipping below 600 (from a previous 850). This means a lot have been lost and a lot are being patched up (many of the auxiliaries, and probably lots of 4Es in that number too).

Today the Allies went for Kushiro, and again the CAP was strong, lasting through the Corsair purges to strike the main bomber formations hard. Of 32 B-29-1 sent out today, about 11 were destroyed or lost to damage.

The Allies did hit the resources, getting 250+ strat VPs, but there was a big price in airframes, and he used P-47D25 groups to escort which were crushed for almost 40 lost. A very good day for the defences!

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 2
N1K2-J George x 16
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 38
Ki-84a Frank x 18

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 39,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 45
J2M3 Jack x 32
N1K2-J George x 84
Ki-84a Frank x 71

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 2 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 46,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 2
N1K2-J George x 16
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36
Ki-84a Frank x 15

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 45,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 2
N1K2-J George x 12
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 31
Ki-84a Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 43,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 2
N1K2-J George x 11
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 8

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 38,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 35
J2M3 Jack x 32
N1K2-J George x 79
Ki-84a Frank x 67

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 63

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet
14 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet
14 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 41,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 32
J2M3 Jack x 30
N1K2-J George x 71
Ki-84a Frank x 61

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 28
J2M3 Jack x 29
N1K2-J George x 66
Ki-84a Frank x 55

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 10
B-29-1 Superfort x 15
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29-1 Superfort: 8 damaged
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed

Resources hits 72

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 23
J2M3 Jack x 24
N1K2-J George x 53
Ki-84a Frank x 52

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 17
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 3 destroyed, 12 damaged
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed

Resources hits 28

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 18
J2M3 Jack x 14
N1K2-J George x 44
Ki-84a Frank x 40

Allied aircraft
B-25H Mitchell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 17
J2M3 Jack x 13
N1K2-J George x 36
Ki-84a Frank x 37

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 6 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 39,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 16
J2M3 Jack x 11
N1K2-J George x 30
Ki-84a Frank x 34

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 2 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Corsair II sweeping at 36900 feet

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Ground combat at 75,125 (near Darwin)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1077 troops, 0 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Defending force 1343 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 41

Allied adjusted assault: 14

Japanese adjusted defense: 44

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
2/7th Armoured Regiment

Defending units:
16th Naval Guard Unit

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What is the Allied Navy doing?

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What is the Allied Navy doing?

There are still numerous TFs protecting Shikuka. I counted at least 3-4 cruiser TFs, 2-3 DD TFs, 1-2 BB TFs, and a bunch of PTs. The notes scroll off the page though, so I have no idea what I'm missing.

He has sent a few 2 DD TFs to Para to interdict ASW ops. I've now put those back away since subs have been reduced significantly through air and seas efforts.

As for the big guns and CVs, I have a feeling they'll show up when the damaged CVs are back in action. He may not want to risk another effort without having the full DS. Dan is a kitchen sink guy.

Alternatively, he could be moving on Sumatra as I write!

I have vacated most of my ground and air forces from the DEI, so if he's noticed, and cares, he might consider that an opportunity. I think it'd be risking a lot to leave the troops at Shikuka for that long. Especially since his fighters are now being worn down. I'm curious how long he'll keep up these efforts. I have a good reserve on Honshu, and the KB is resting, so soon there may be an opportunity to get them back in action. Managed to upgrade CAs and a few CVEs and BBs during the lull.

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Now that the KAI Dinah is online I have two more IJAAF night fighter groups I can use. I've just upgraded them to the NF line from recon, and now they will head back to the HI to defend rear areas like Nagasakie and Fukuoka.

The AA has been more evenly distributed now, and most bigger bases are fairly well defended with NF in range, day fighters at base, and AA for all altitudes.

I'm also building all bases that I can afford to a port/airfield combo of 7 to activate balloons, and getting forts built up as well to make more balloons active. I'll burn through a lot of supply, but I've been conservative so far on airframe factory changes/increases and RnD builds. There have also been a lot of periods of relative inactivity over the years, so I think I'm in a position now to make crisis decisions and use some of the reserve for necessary Home Island defences.

I won't be doing any more building farther South than Formosa or Iwo Jima. Most bases that need them have had forts built and are only there now to delay Allied advances.

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Updates tomorrow. Lots of action to report. Allies going big air in the North and the South.

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August 20-21, 1944

Ok. I wasn't able to post until now. Too many turns to do and too much travel.

The B-29s hit Sapporo at night for a bit of damage, but NF and flak have their say too. This kind of strike will quickly wear down his numbers, as about another 7-8 are destroyed on the night.

Other than this the only other action is a lot of island bombing at Onneketon-Jima, with a lot of damaged 4Es, and an Allied attack that failed at Darwin. It won't be long though, and then what?

On the 21st the Allies hit Urruppa-Jima, and again, not much else. The island bombing is slowing some fort building, but everything is still steadily moving upward. All of the middle Kuriles are approaching forts 5, and while the NE and SW edge bases are approaching forts 6, with Para going for forts 7.

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Night Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 13
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 10

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 2
Fires 560

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 13
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 10

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Manpower hits 1
Fires 2055

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 11
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 5

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 3 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 50
Fires 12040

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 11
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 5

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 3 damaged

Manpower hits 2
Fires 31275

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Fenton (76,126)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 5040 troops, 52 guns, 43 vehicles, Assault Value = 148

Defending force 491 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Allied adjusted assault: 262

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 262 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
716 casualties reported
Squads: 29 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th Australian/A Division

Defending units:
Maizuru 2nd SNLF

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Still a lot of surface forces protecting Shikuka. Not sure how many, still. Not so many subs these days though, which is positive.

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August 22-23, 1944

Some tough sweeps on the 22nd at Sapporo, but the CAP weathers the storm.

On the 23rd I move some fresh groups in and they perform really well. I also set some CAP on the millruns in the Kuriles, and catch some nice fat 4Es.

On the day a lot of 4Es and escorts shot down. Love that these escorts are first line fighters too. Forgot to copy the info air losses screen, but from the reports you get an idea.

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Afternoon Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 40,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 54
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 54
Ki-84a Frank x 86

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 4 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 41,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 38
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 29
Ki-84a Frank x 58

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Corsair II sweeping at 36900 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 38,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 13
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 3
Ki-84a Frank x 16

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Ketoi-jima , at 134,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 63 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 9
Liberator B.VI x 5
Liberator GR.VI x 5
B-24J Liberator x 23

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.III: 2 damaged
Liberator B.VI: 1 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 22 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 46

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Liberator B.III bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR August 23, 1944
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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 39,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 26
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 47
Ki-84a Frank x 81

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 36,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 19
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 26
Ki-84a Frank x 51

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 41,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 16
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 22
Ki-84a Frank x 47

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 36800 feet

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Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 21
N1K2-J George x 21
Ki-84a Frank x 28

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 11
Liberator GR.VI x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.III: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
Liberator B.III: 1 destroyed by flak
Liberator GR.VI: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Liberator B.III bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator GR.VI x 10
B-24J Liberator x 24
B-25D1 Mitchell x 15
B-25H Mitchell x 3
B-25J1 Mitchell x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator GR.VI: 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 8 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 4 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25J1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 59

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 13000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 19
N1K2-J George x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 26

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 5
Liberator GR.VI x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Liberator GR.VI bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 17
N1K2-J George x 16
Ki-84a Frank x 22

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 19
B-24J Liberator x 15
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 15 damaged
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Shimushiri-jima , at 132,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 7
N1K2-J George x 10
Ki-84a Frank x 12

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 4/24/2018 2:59:28 PM

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Invasion of Sakhalin was D-day in Normandy.

Here we are closing in on Sept 4th...so the next big invasion must be looming with everybody at 100% prep or darn close. I am not reading CR's AAR...so I have no clue what the Allied next invasion will be...

go for the throat into Hokkaido/Honshu
go for forward fighter base islands
clean up supply line back to Alaska
Korea...very tough terrain
Thailand/Malaya

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 4/24/2018 8:52:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Invasion of Sakhalin was D-day in Normandy.

Here we are closing in on Sept 4th...so the next big invasion must be looming with everybody at 100% prep or darn close. I am not reading CR's AAR...so I have no clue what the Allied next invasion will be...

go for the throat into Hokkaido/Honshu
go for forward fighter base islands
clean up supply line back to Alaska
Korea...very tough terrain
Thailand/Malaya

I'm wary. Stuff is on in North Australia, so something will likely come there. I just can't do much about it right now.

Hokkaido/Honshu: This would be tough for him, and would release an invasion package as well as activating kamis. Sapporo just reached level 9 forts. Bihoro is nearing level 8. The rest have good terrain and at least 6 forts, and there is about 5k AV on Hokkaido, plus a lot of CD guns.

Fighter base islands: This is entirely possible, but again, those are Home Island bases, and would release the package plus activate kamis. I'm building all nearby islands up now with forts at around 3-4 and troops installed. If he came close I'd start flying more to Sadagashima and others. He'd have to really commit to get some, but I could make it messy.

Clean LOC: This means Kuriles. This is what I'm planning and hoping for really. They are ready. If he has 7-8k of invasion troops at Sakhalin, to take them quickly he would have to commit 3k AV to Para, 2k to most others. These are now more well defended than I've ever gotten the Marianas. Helps to be close to home!

Korea is building along all coasts. The Eastern bases are in tough terrain, and have very good divisions installed. More could rail to wherever a landing took place within a few days. it's also close to lots of Japanese bases. I'd say this is not high on his list, but I've been wrong before.

Thailand Malaya: Yes. This makes complete sense. I would have done it last month, but maybe the troops aren't available, at least if he was planning for stage two in the North, maybe everything is up there. It would probably still be tough, and LBA could be transferred quickly to help out.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 4/24/2018 9:08:48 PM

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August 25, 1944

This is a good day i the air for Japan. The Allies send massive strikes on Sapporo and Pegu in the North and South. Both are met with a persistent CAP that lasts through sweeps and hits bombers hard. The tough combo of canon mounted fighters and big gun flak decimates Allied 4E and 2E!!

This should but a damper on the bombing efforts for a while, but unfortunately no B-29s were involved. He did get to the HI in Sapporo, but the price is too high for the 60-70 strat points gained.

On the day nearly 250 Allied planes are shot down and about 75 4Es lost.

To top it off a Chinese unit walking up the mountains decides to try to open a river bedside and shocks into 1,000AV of well entrenched Japanese troops and tanks. It's not going to make it back.

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Night Air attack on Shikuka , at 126,43

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 112 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 10

Allied aircraft
P-61A Black Widow x 20
F6F-3N Hellcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 3 destroyed
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 3 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 11000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 40,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 28
J2M5 Jack x 40
N1K2-J George x 48
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 27
Ki-84a Frank x 41
Ki-100-I Tony x 26

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 53

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet
13 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 36900 feet

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Morning Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 56 NM, estimated altitude 36,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 36
N1K2-J George x 23
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 88
Ki-84a Frank x 46

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 35
N1K2-J George x 22
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 83
Ki-84a Frank x 45

Allied aircraft
B-25D Mitchell x 24
B-24D Liberator x 5
B-24J Liberator x 10
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D Mitchell: 7 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-25D Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25D Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 25
J2M5 Jack x 32
N1K2-J George x 46
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 22
Ki-84a Frank x 39
Ki-100-I Tony x 18

Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 14
B-24J Liberator x 3
B-25H Mitchell x 21
P-51B Mustang x 13
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
P-51B Mustang: 4 destroyed
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 20 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 5
Resources hits 1
Light Industry hits 1
Fires 7

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 22
J2M5 Jack x 22
N1K2-J George x 39
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 11
Ki-84a Frank x 30
Ki-100-I Tony x 13

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 11
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 destroyed by flak

Resources hits 1
Fires 9

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 32
N1K2-J George x 18
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 76
Ki-84a Frank x 40

Allied aircraft
Liberator GR.VI x 3
B-25C Mitchell x 16
B-25C Mitchell x 16
B-25D1 Mitchell x 28
B-25J1 Mitchell x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed
Liberator GR.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25C Mitchell: 7 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25D1 Mitchell: 14 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 destroyed by flak
B-25J1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 23
N1K2-J George x 13
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 44
Ki-84a Frank x 22

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 22
N1K2-J George x 13
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 42
Ki-84a Frank x 19

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 8 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 45,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 19
N1K2-J George x 13
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 38
Ki-84a Frank x 17

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 6
N1K2-J George x 6
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 14
Ki-84a Frank x 7

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 33
B-25D1 Mitchell x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 14 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed by flak
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 4
N1K2-J George x 1
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 5

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
B-25H Mitchell x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25H Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 52 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 15
J2M5 Jack x 21
N1K2-J George x 33
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 6
Ki-84a Frank x 25
Ki-100-I Tony x 10

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 14
P-38J Lightning x 18
P-38L Lightning x 9
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 3 destroyed, 9 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
P-38J Lightning: 2 destroyed
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Fires 4

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Sapporo , at 120,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 9
J2M5 Jack x 13
N1K2-J George x 24
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 19
Ki-100-I Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Fires 9

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 67,44 (near Tsuyung)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 8080 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 221

Defending force 32423 troops, 212 guns, 249 vehicles, Assault Value = 1058

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 4504

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), supply(-)

Allied ground losses:
3603 casualties reported
Squads: 272 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 352 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
60th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
2nd Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
110th/B Division
110th/A Division
23rd Tank Regiment
13th Division
110th/C Division

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_Sq... - 4/24/2018 9:19:56 PM

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The Chinese troops coming from india are slowing flooding up and into the Japanese lines. This was the first attack by any of them, and if more come this way, I have a feeling it won't end well for them.

There are some spots where they've moved around the rivers, but are still facing well fortified Japanese divisions in x3 terrain.

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