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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/30/2017 7:09:55 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/30/2017 8:19:42 PM   
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As for why more British managers don't go abroad for work, from the Football League down you run into the island nation mentality... it means learning a new language, getting used to a new culture, and getting used to a different footballing culture.

The three English managers that have coached my Portuguese team (CF Belenenses), only one (John Mortimere) learned Portuguese. With Jimmy Melia and Jimmy Hagan I don't recall have heard them speaking a word in Portuguese. Jimmy Hagan the only two words he would say were "No comments". All of them stayed several years (with success) in Portugal. Not only they have adapted to our culture but also brought new ideas, new concepts to the Portuguese football.
Maybe they are a little more "lazy" today, but English managers brought a lot to football.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/30/2017 9:27:57 PM   
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Lloyd's back from his stint in Edinburgh... enjoy...

Every Premier League Fan in 90 Seconds Week 3

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Good to have him back. Arsenal, Brighton, Bournemouth are all good


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/31/2017 6:59:49 AM   
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Sanchez and Coutinho press conferences...

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/31/2017 8:04:51 AM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/31/2017 8:05:43 AM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/31/2017 8:58:10 AM   
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As for why more British managers don't go abroad for work, from the Football League down you run into the island nation mentality... it means learning a new language, getting used to a new culture, and getting used to a different footballing culture.

The three English managers that have coached my Portuguese team (CF Belenenses), only one (John Mortimere) learned Portuguese. With Jimmy Melia and Jimmy Hagan I don't recall have heard them speaking a word in Portuguese. Jimmy Hagan the only two words he would say were "No comments". All of them stayed several years (with success) in Portugal. Not only they have adapted to our culture but also brought new ideas, new concepts to the Portuguese football.
Maybe they are a little more "lazy" today, but English managers brought a lot to football.

Those three managers are all old school. In their playing careers, they played at the top level.

There is no question that England produced some very good managers, we still do but as players they are effectively barred from the top level and as managers they now ply their trade in the EFL and VNL. A few still get exported although the tendency these days is to go further afield than Europe: Napal, Guam, India etc and they are, in general, very successful ... but there is no movement en masse.

At the top level though, the evidence so far is that the pampered princes of the Premier League either leave the game, court the "meedja", or enter into a kind of voluntary zoochosis; exotic breeds thriving only in the rarefied stratosphere of high fantasy and camouflaged by corporate identity.

Football in England, for players, managers, and fans, is very much alive and well. And, as a bonus, we get to watch the pretties for a few minutes before the film starts.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/31/2017 9:00:08 AM   
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Has anyone spotted Harry Redknapp leaning his head out of his car yet?

Not yet, but it will come.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/31/2017 6:30:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		So let's recap. We have bought a right-back with an attitood and disciplinary problem, a goalkeeper that Danny Rose will need to Google, and two central defenders, one of whom is 12 years old and also requires an internet search function.....

Right....so that'll solve our problem of being unable to unlock defences...

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/31/2017 8:14:14 PM   
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So let's recap. We have bought a right-back with an attitood and disciplinary problem, a goalkeeper that Danny Rose will need to Google, and two central defenders, one of whom is 12 years old and also requires an internet search function.....

Right....so that'll solve our problem of being unable to unlock defences...

Well, at the other end of the table, Chelsea are have having trouble attracting players as well...

Best wishes,
Steve

Late news: UEFA have just opened a formal investigation of PSG under the Fair Play Rules following their recent transfer activity. One wonders about the outcome of any investigation. Whitewash anyone?

Late, late news: I have just watched Malta v England. You can certainly understand why Neymar went for £200m, since £35m can't even buy you a player with a first touch...

And then there is this: Why are Premier League fans converting to non-league?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHlSAbSzOJw

Late, late, late news: Life is still good in Braintree...

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/2/2017 8:41:03 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/3/2017 10:58:20 AM   
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Well done Wales! You've kept your hopes alive with that one

A must win game against a decent Austrian side. Rode their luck a bit, particularly in the first half apparently, but got the win they needed.

Two really strange sights this weekend so far.

The first in Malta where Ryan Bertrand obviously needs to work on his goal celebration routine.

And the second was Italy going to Madrid and welded to the idea of playing 4-2-4 against the Spanish. It was the master plan that the Italians were going to stick to come hell or high water. While they didn't get the high water that drenched out a lot of football in the east, they certainly got the hell. I suspect that hot water will follow...

Northern Ireland v Czech Republic looks like a tasty game on Monday. The Netherlands can do Sweden a big favour and England can do Scotland a favour...

Ireland didn't play well in Georgia and were lucky to get a draw. They need to play better against Serbia because you have to fancy Wales in Moldova.

Hungary v Portugal is on the box tonight. Quite looking forward to that game.

Best wishes,
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PS: And Portugal struggle to beat the ten men and assorted elbows of Hungary 0-1. I am thinking bad karma for having the ugliest away strip seen this weekend....


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/4/2017 5:01:50 PM   
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Mourinho... The Portugeeezer...

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/4/2017 7:33:42 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/5/2017 7:04:42 AM   
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Group A
I can't see who Sweden's last penultimate game is against, but the last game vs Holland is likely to be a decider for something. France may well have memories of Bulgaria (who could still get a play-off place) David Ginola and 1993.... squeaky bum time in that group.

Group B
Portugal vs Switzerland. With a superior goal difference for Portugal that is likely to be winner takes all.

Group C
Northern Ireland. What can you say?

Group D
I can't see all the fixtures but Wales vs Ireland will be massive. Serbia likely to have done enough for top spot unless the Irish can pull something out of the bag tonight.

Group F
England look to have done enough but Scotland are still in there scrapping. Two tough games to go but.....

Group I
Come on Iceland!!

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/5/2017 8:13:59 AM   
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Group F
England look to have done enough but Scotland are still in there scrapping. Two tough games to go but.....

...


Or as Pat Nevin put it on GMS today - 'we specialise in finding new ways to fail' - in this case, even if Scotland gets 2nd place (just about believable) its most likely they will be 9th in the 2nd place league - ie not included in the play offs. Still better than some recently dire (non)-qualifying campaigns


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/5/2017 8:16:49 AM   
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Group F
England look to have done enough but Scotland are still in there scrapping. Two tough games to go but.....

...


Or as Pat Nevin put it on GMS today - 'we specialise in finding new ways to fail' - in this case, even if Scotland gets 2nd place (just about believable) its most likely they will be 9th in the 2nd place league - ie not included in the play offs. Still better than some recently dire (non)-qualifying campaigns

warspite1

I haven't looked at it too closely, but with the action hotting up and nerves getting freyed, maybe they could still scrape in the top 8. After all, to get 2nd they will need to win those two games. Fingers crossed anyway .


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/5/2017 3:30:45 PM   
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Group F
England look to have done enough but Scotland are still in there scrapping. Two tough games to go but.....

...


Or as Pat Nevin put it on GMS today - 'we specialise in finding new ways to fail' - in this case, even if Scotland gets 2nd place (just about believable) its most likely they will be 9th in the 2nd place league - ie not included in the play offs. Still better than some recently dire (non)-qualifying campaigns

warspite1

I haven't looked at it too closely, but with the action hotting up and nerves getting freyed, maybe they could still scrape in the top 8. After all, to get 2nd they will need to win those two games. Fingers crossed anyway .



much too optimistic ... in the spirit of the two Johns (Knox and Calvin), its essential that we remember that hope and the Scotland football team is an experienced best mixed with jaw dropping despair

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/5/2017 5:31:38 PM   
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Its now getting to the sharp end....

Group A
I can't see who Sweden's last penultimate game is against, but the last game vs Holland is likely to be a decider for something. France may well have memories of Bulgaria (who could still get a play-off place) David Ginola and 1993.... squeaky bum time in that group.

Group B
Portugal vs Switzerland. With a superior goal difference for Portugal that is likely to be winner takes all.

Group C
Northern Ireland. What can you say?

Group D
I can't see all the fixtures but Wales vs Ireland will be massive. Serbia likely to have done enough for top spot unless the Irish can pull something out of the bag tonight.

Group F
England look to have done enough but Scotland are still in there scrapping. Two tough games to go but.....

Group I
Come on Iceland!!

Luxembourg, Sweden's next match is at home against Luxembourg.

And that should be three points in the bank right? Lets ask France what they think.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/5/2017 9:02:48 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/6/2017 10:27:33 AM   
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Ahah. José never played in that position, but his father (Félix Mourinho) was one of the best Portuguese goalkeepers of his generation.

I knew José's father was a professional footballer. Didn't know he was a goalkeeper though. Thanks for that.

Best wishes,
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/6/2017 1:01:01 PM   
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I knew José's father was a professional footballer. Didn't know he was a goalkeeper though.

He was also a manager.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/9/2017 2:08:34 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/9/2017 3:20:05 PM   
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aaargh, stupid game!
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What happened? The game started and the commentary in the opening 15 mins or so was that Man City were all over the place... I went out, came back and it was suddenly 5-0


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/9/2017 4:15:41 PM   
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aaargh, stupid game!
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What happened? The game started and the commentary in the opening 15 mins or so was that Man City were all over the place... I went out, came back and it was suddenly 5-0



Sadio Mané got a red card at 1-0 (the experts tend to say it should have been a yellow not a red...), and then it all went downhill.
City was the better team today, but not to that extent.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/10/2017 6:00:40 PM   
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-41219375

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/11/2017 9:20:45 AM   
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aaargh, stupid game!
warspite1

What happened? The game started and the commentary in the opening 15 mins or so was that Man City were all over the place... I went out, came back and it was suddenly 5-0



Sadio Mané got a red card at 1-0 (the experts tend to say it should have been a yellow not a red...), and then it all went downhill.
City was the better team today, but not to that extent.

That is a red card for sure. If that is only a yellow card then we can take away the red card from the referee. No point in having the red card if they don't use it for events such as this one. The "experts" who think this should have been a yellow card should be ashamed of themselves. Makes me wonder if they had a shadowy motive for saying it should have been a yellow card.

A player is responsible for the result of his actions when he decides to play dangerously. I hope he gets suspended a very long time so that he can ponder on his actions. 15-20 matches perhaps. It might not have been intentional but it was just luck that it wasn't a severe injury on Edison. And I seriously doubt that he didn't see the keeper. He just tried to score with the foot because he saw the keeper and wanted to beat him to the ball. Shame on any punter who doesn't think this should be a red card! This behaviour has no place in football!

Have you seen the incident?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VsbL47HXrc

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/11/2017 9:22:28 AM   
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Nice to see that not all 'stars' lose complete touch with reality. Excellent work Mr Hamill - very human

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-41219375

Indeed.

Thank you for sharing.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/11/2017 6:02:07 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/16/2017 9:29:05 AM   
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The FA Cup

Braintree are at home to Royston with a 1500 kick off...

... and the BBC is streaming Deeping Rangers v Kidderminster Harriers live at 1230...

What more could you want on a Saturday afternoon?

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